How to Read Faster and Understand More in English | Tips to Improve Your Reading Skills in English

55,980 views ・ 2022-02-21

English with Veronika Mark


μ•„λž˜ μ˜λ¬Έμžλ§‰μ„ λ”λΈ”ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ²ˆμ—­λœ μžλ§‰μ€ 기계 λ²ˆμ—­λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.

00:00
(mellow music) - I always say to people,
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like among your friends,
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(λΆ€λ“œλŸ¬μš΄ μŒμ•…) - λ‚˜λŠ” 항상 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ λ§ν•΄μš”.
μΉœκ΅¬λ“€μ²˜λŸΌμš”.
00:03
think about the smartest person you know.
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당신이 μ•„λŠ” κ°€μž₯ λ˜‘λ˜‘ν•œ μ‚¬λžŒμ— λŒ€ν•΄ 생각해 λ³΄μ„Έμš”.
00:07
I guarantee you that person reads a lot.
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κ·Έ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ 많이 μ½λŠ”λ‹€κ³  μž₯λ‹΄ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:10
And I felt really stupid,
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그리고 μ €λŠ” λ‹€λ₯Έ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό μ „ν˜€ λͺ°λžκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 정말 λ©μ²­ν•˜λ‹€κ³  λŠκΌˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
00:11
'cause I didn't know any other language at all.
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.
00:13
I think the English or the British mentality
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μ˜κ΅­μΈμ΄λ‚˜ 영ꡭ인의 사고방식은
00:15
is very much that we are the best.
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ΅œκ³ λΌλŠ” 생각이 많이 λ“­λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:19
- Hello guys, and welcome back to my YouTube channel.
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-μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš”. 제 YouTube 채널에 λ‹€μ‹œ μ˜€μ‹  것을 ν™˜μ˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:22
Today you're gonna be watching
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였늘 당신은
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an interview with Olly Richards.
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Olly Richardsμ™€μ˜ 인터뷰λ₯Ό 보게 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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He's the creator of this StoryLearning method
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κ·ΈλŠ”
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that helped a lot of people learn foreign languages.
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λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μ™Έκ΅­μ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μš°λŠ” 데 도움이 λ˜λŠ” StoryLearning 방법을 λ§Œλ“  μ‚¬λžŒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:32
And guys, when I was younger,
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그리고 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„, μ œκ°€ 어렸을 λ•Œ
00:34
I loved reading graded readers,
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μ €λŠ” 등급별 λ…μžλ₯Ό μ½λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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and this is something we're gonna be talking about
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그리고 이것이 μš°λ¦¬κ°€
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in this interview.
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이 μΈν„°λ·°μ—μ„œ 이야기할 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:39
So make sure to like this video
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‹ˆ 이 λΉ„λ””μ˜€λ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„
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and subscribe to my YouTube channel.
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ν•˜κ³  제 YouTube 채널을 κ΅¬λ…ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
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And now, let's begin.
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이제 μ‹œμž‘ν•˜κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:44
Hi Olly, it's really nice to meet you
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μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš” 올리, λ§Œλ‚˜μ„œ 정말 λ°˜κ°‘κ³ 
00:46
and I'm really happy to have you on my channel today.
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였늘 제 채널에 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ„ λͺ¨μ‹œκ²Œ λ˜μ–΄ 정말 κΈ°μ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:49
We're gonna do like a quick interview
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ”
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about you and about your StoryLearning method
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λ‹Ήμ‹ κ³Ό
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that helps millions of people learn foreign languages.
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수백만 λͺ…μ˜ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μ™Έκ΅­μ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μš°λŠ” 데 도움이 λ˜λŠ” λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ StoryLearning 방법에 λŒ€ν•œ κ°„λ‹¨ν•œ 인터뷰λ₯Ό ν•  κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
00:57
So at first, could you please just
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그럼 μ²˜μŒμ—
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introduce yourself a little bit?
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κ°„λ‹¨ν•œ μžκΈ°μ†Œκ°œ λΆ€νƒλ“œλ €λ„ λ κΉŒμš”?
01:00
- Thank you so much for the invitation,
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- μ΄ˆλŒ€ν•΄ μ£Όμ…”μ„œ 정말 κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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it's great to be here
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μ—¬κΈ° 였게 λ˜μ–΄ λ°˜κ°‘κ³ 
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and I'm a big fan of your channel as well.
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저도 λ‹Ήμ‹  μ±„λ„μ˜ μ—΄λ ¬ν•œ νŒ¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:04
So my name is Olly Richards, I'm from the UK.
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제 이름은 Olly Richards이고 μ˜κ΅­μ—μ„œ μ™”μ–΄μš”.
01:07
I have a long background with languages,
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λ‚˜λŠ” 언어에 λŒ€ν•œ 였랜 배경을 가지고 있으며, 19살쯀에
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I started learning languages when I was about 19 years old.
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μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό 배우기 μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
01:12
My first language was French,
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제 λͺ¨κ΅­μ–΄λŠ” ν”„λž‘μŠ€μ–΄μ˜€λŠ”λ°
01:14
which was kind of really hard to learn
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because I didn't know what I was doing.
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μ œκ°€ 무엇을 ν•˜λŠ”μ§€ λͺ°λžκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— λ°°μš°κΈ°κ°€ 정말 μ–΄λ €μ› μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:18
In the UK we don't really learn languages
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μ˜κ΅­μ—μ„œλŠ” μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μš°μ§€ μ•ŠκΈ°
01:20
so I had to just create own method really.
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λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 정말 μžμ‹ λ§Œμ˜ 방법을 λ§Œλ“€μ–΄μ•Ό ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:24
And then I went on to learn seven more languages after that.
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그리고 λ‚˜μ„œ 7개 μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό 더 λ°°μ› μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:27
I've lived in lots of countries around the world.
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λ‚˜λŠ” μ „ 세계 λ§Žμ€ λ‚˜λΌμ—μ„œ μ‚΄μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:29
But I'm also a language teacher,
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ λ‚˜λŠ” λ˜ν•œ μ–Έμ–΄ ꡐ사이기
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so I taught English for many years.
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λ•Œλ¬Έμ— μˆ˜λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό κ°€λ₯΄μ³€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:32
I've become a very highly qualified English teacher,
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μ €λŠ” 맀우 높은 μžκ²©μ„ κ°–μΆ˜ μ˜μ–΄ ꡐ사가 λ˜μ—ˆκ³  μ€‘λ™μ˜ 일본
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I taught English in Japan, in the Middle East.
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μ—μ„œ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό κ°€λ₯΄μ³€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
01:36
So what I decided to do was
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ œκ°€ ν•˜κΈ°λ‘œ κ²°μ •ν•œ 것은
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to combine my experience of teaching
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κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜λŠ” κ²½ν—˜
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with my experience of language learning.
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κ³Ό μ–Έμ–΄ ν•™μŠ΅ κ²½ν—˜μ„ κ²°ν•©ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
01:43
So what I try to do now
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ§€κΈˆ μ œκ°€ ν•˜λ €κ³  ν•˜λŠ” 것은
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is to help people learn foreign languages
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μ™Έκ΅­μ–΄λ₯Ό 배울 수 μžˆλ„λ‘ λ•λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ €λŠ”
01:46
and I do that with stories,
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이야기λ₯Ό 가지고 κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€
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so I've got a unique method that takes stories
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and helps you learn languages through stories.
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Which is great,
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because when you hear something in a story
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μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°μ—μ„œ 무언가λ₯Ό 듀을 λ•Œ
02:00
it's much easier to remember,
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κΈ°μ–΅ν•˜κΈ°κ°€ 훨씬 더 쉽고
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it's much more fun and it's just good all round.
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훨씬 더 재미있고 μ „λ°˜μ μœΌλ‘œ μ’‹κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— μ’‹μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:05
- Yeah, I agree.
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- λ„€, λ™μ˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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And as a person who loves reading,
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그리고 λ…μ„œλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμœΌλ‘œμ„œ
02:08
because I love reading books and stories
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μ €λŠ” μ±…κ³Ό 이야기λ₯Ό μ½λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
02:11
and different, just everything, I guess,
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λͺ¨λ“  것이 λ‹€ 그런 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:13
Yeah, we'll talk about your method a little bit later.
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λ„€, λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ 방법에 λŒ€ν•΄μ„œλŠ” μž μ‹œ 후에 μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:15
But first it's very interesting
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ¨Όμ €
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because you just mentioned that in the UK
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μ˜κ΅­μ—μ„œλŠ”
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people generally don't learn foreign languages.
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 일반적으둜 μ™Έκ΅­μ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μš°μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€κ³  방금 μ–ΈκΈ‰ν–ˆκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 맀우 ν₯λ―Έ λ‘­μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:21
Why do you think that is?
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μ™œ κ·ΈλŸ΄κΉŒμš”?
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Like, what is the reason?
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μ΄μœ κ°€ λ¬΄μ—‡μž…λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
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- I think that there's kind of an island mentality.
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- μΌμ’…μ˜ 고립된 사고방식이 μžˆλŠ” 것 κ°™μ•„μš”.
02:26
There's a few reasons,
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λͺ‡ 가지 μ΄μœ κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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we have an island mentality
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ”
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whereby we are kind of our own island.
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우리 μžμ‹ μ˜ 섬과 같은 섬 정신을 가지고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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There's a sea in between us and mainland Europe.
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μš°λ¦¬μ™€ 유럽 λ³Έν†  μ‚¬μ΄μ—λŠ” λ°”λ‹€κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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We also have this long,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” λ˜ν•œ
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hundreds of years of history of colonization.
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수백 λ…„μ˜ κΈ΄ 식민지 역사λ₯Ό 가지고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
02:41
We like to think that we are the country that goes out
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λ°–μœΌλ‘œ λ‚˜κ°€ μ „ 세계
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and brings democracy to the rest of the world.
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에 민주주의λ₯Ό κ°€μ Έλ‹€μ£ΌλŠ” λ‚˜λΌλΌκ³  μƒκ°ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
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This kind of mindset that is hundreds of years old
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수백 λ…„ 된 이런 사고 방식은
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and it's still in the country today
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μ˜€λŠ˜λ‚ μ—λ„ μ—¬μ „νžˆ ꡭ가에 있으며
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and we are just kind of,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μΌμ’…μ˜
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I think the English or the British mentality
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μ˜κ΅­μΈμ΄λ‚˜ 영ꡭ인의 사고 방식이
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is very much we are the best,
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 졜고라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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we are the source of source of truth and all of that.
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ§„μ‹€μ˜ μ›μ²œμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έκ²ƒμ˜.
03:10
And then largely thanks to the presence
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그리고
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and the growth of the United States,
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미ꡭ의 μ‘΄μž¬μ™€ μ„±μž₯에 크게 κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:17
where now the way where they make,
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이제 그듀이 λ§Œλ“€μ–΄κ°€λŠ” 방식은
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you know, you've got Hollywood
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ν• λ¦¬μš°λ“œκ°€ 있고
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and you've got American popular music,
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λ―Έκ΅­ λŒ€μ€‘μŒμ•…μ΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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and because of the popularity of that,
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we kind of feel, all right,
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μ’‹μ•„μš”, λ‹€λ₯Έ λ‚˜λΌμ˜
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if we want entertainment from other countries,
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μ—”ν„°ν…ŒμΈλ¨ΌνŠΈλ₯Ό μ›ν•œλ‹€λ©΄
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we can turn to the US.
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미ꡭ으둜 λˆˆμ„ 돌릴 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:34
And so it just kind of cements this presence of English
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 그것은 μ€‘μš”ν•œ λͺ¨λ“  일이 μΌμ–΄λ‚˜λŠ” μž₯μ†Œλ‘œμ„œ μ˜μ–΄μ˜ 쑴재λ₯Ό ν™•κ³ νžˆ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€
03:38
as the place where anything that matters is happening.
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03:42
And so that's why I think English speakers
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ˜μ–΄ μ‚¬μš©μžλ“€μ€
03:47
just generally don't look to other countries.
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일반적으둜 λ‹€λ₯Έ λ‚˜λΌλ₯Ό 보지 μ•ŠλŠ” 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:53
We have so much in the English language world
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ 세계에 λ„ˆλ¬΄ λ§Žμ•„μ„œ
03:56
that it's kind of enough.
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κ·Έκ²ƒμœΌλ‘œ μΆ©λΆ„ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
03:57
And it's very sad,
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그리고 그것은 맀우 μŠ¬ν”„μ§€λ§Œ
04:00
but I think that's why.
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그것이 이유라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:01
- It's also very interesting,
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- λ˜ν•œ 맀우 ν₯λ―Έλ‘­μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
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because in a lot of different countries,
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λ§Žμ€ λ‹€λ₯Έ λ‚˜λΌμ—μ„œ
04:04
people generally learn
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ 일반적으둜
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British English at schools, for example,
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ν•™κ΅μ—μ„œ μ˜κ΅­μ‹ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό 배우기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
04:07
like the government is all for British English.
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04:09
And this is something that is happening in Russia right now,
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그리고 이것은 μ§€κΈˆ λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—μ„œ μΌμ–΄λ‚˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” μΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:12
because I live in Russia,
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μ €λŠ” λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ— μ‚΄κ³ 
04:13
and in Moscow we only learn British English at schools.
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있고 λͺ¨μŠ€ν¬λ°”μ—μ„œλŠ” ν•™κ΅μ—μ„œ μ˜κ΅­μ‹ μ˜μ–΄λ§Œ 배우기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:17
All the textbooks are in British English,
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λͺ¨λ“  κ΅κ³Όμ„œλŠ” μ˜κ΅­μ‹ μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ λ˜μ–΄
04:19
but more and people actually wanna learn American English,
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μžˆμ§€λ§Œ 더 λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 미ꡭ식 μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό 배우고 μ‹Άμ–΄ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:23
and yeah, this is something that is happening right now.
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λ„€, λ°”λ‘œ μ§€κΈˆ μΌμ–΄λ‚˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” μΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:27
Yeah, and you mentioned, like the influence of Hollywood.
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λ„€, ν—λ¦¬μš°λ“œμ˜ 영ν–₯이라고 λ§μ”€ν•˜μ…¨μ£ .
04:29
- I mean, that's also a question of perspective.
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- λ‚΄ 말은, 그것은 λ˜ν•œ κ΄€μ μ˜ λ¬Έμ œμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:30
So for example, if you go to,
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예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄
04:34
many countries around the world
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세계 μ—¬λŸ¬ λ‚˜λΌμ— 가보면
04:35
where the English that they teach is American English.
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미ꡭ식 μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄
04:38
So if you go to Japan, for example,
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일본에 κ°€λ©΄
04:41
in Japan, it's very much American English.
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미ꡭ식 μ˜μ–΄κ°€ 많이 μ‚¬μš©λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:43
The English exams that you take is the TOEFL test,
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당신이 치λ₯΄λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μ‹œν—˜μ€ λ°”λ‘œ TOEFL μ‹œν—˜μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
04:48
all of those things.
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.
04:49
And I think that's because of the,
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제 μƒκ°μ—λŠ”
04:50
you know, Japan obviously has a long history with the US,
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일본이 제
04:52
post-World War II and geographically closer as well.
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2μ°¨ μ„Έκ³„λŒ€μ „ 이후 λ―Έκ΅­κ³Ό 였랜 역사λ₯Ό κ°–κ³  있고 μ§€λ¦¬μ μœΌλ‘œ 더 가깝기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ΄λΌκ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
04:57
So yeah, it seems to be that some countries
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예, 일뢀 κ΅­κ°€μ—μ„œλŠ”
04:59
prefer American English, teaching American English,
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미ꡭ식 μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό μ„ ν˜Έν•˜κ³ , 미ꡭ식 μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜κ³ ,
05:01
some countries prefer teaching British English,
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일뢀 κ΅­κ°€μ—μ„œλŠ” μ˜κ΅­μ‹ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜λŠ” 것을 μ„ ν˜Έν•˜λŠ” 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
05:05
and yeah, everything else in between.
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05:06
- And you mentioned that you started learning French
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- ν”„λž‘μŠ€μ–΄λ₯Ό 19μ‚΄ λ•Œ 배우기 μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆλ‹€κ³  ν•˜μ…¨μ£ 
05:09
when you were 19, right? - Yeah.
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? - 응.
05:11
- Why did you decide to learn French?
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- ν”„λž‘μŠ€μ–΄λ₯Ό 배우기둜 κ²°μ‹¬ν•œ μ΄μœ λŠ”?
05:13
- It was very much like, outta the blue.
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- λŠλ‹·μ—†μ΄ κ·Έλž¬μ–΄μš”.
05:15
So I was at university in London studying jazz piano,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 런던의 λŒ€ν•™μ—μ„œ 재즈 ν”Όμ•„λ…Έλ₯Ό κ³΅λΆ€ν•˜κ³  μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:19
that was my degree.
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그것이 제 ν•™μœ„μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:21
And I'd never had any contact
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그리고 μ €λŠ”
05:24
with other countries, other languages.
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λ‹€λ₯Έ λ‚˜λΌ, λ‹€λ₯Έ 언어와 μ ‘μ΄‰ν•œ 적이 μ—†μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:27
And then a few things happened.
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그리고 λͺ‡ 가지 일이 μΌμ–΄λ‚¬μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:30
I took a job working in a cafe in London,
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λŸ°λ˜μ— μžˆλŠ” μΉ΄νŽ˜μ—μ„œ μΌν•˜λ©΄μ„œ
05:35
serving cappuccinos and things.
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μΉ΄ν‘ΈμΉ˜λ…Έ 등을 μ„œλΉ™ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:37
And in that cafe, there were people from all over the world,
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그리고 κ·Έ μΉ΄νŽ˜μ—λŠ”
05:41
France, Sweden, Spain,
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ν”„λž‘μŠ€, β€‹β€‹μŠ€μ›¨λ΄, 슀페인 λ“± μ „ μ„Έκ³„μ—μ„œ 온 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μžˆμ—ˆλŠ”λ°,
05:44
and I noticed that these people
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이 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄
05:47
could all speak English really well.
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λͺ¨λ‘ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό 정말 μž˜ν•œλ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ•Œκ²Œ λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:50
Fair enough, they're in London,
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μΆ©λΆ„νžˆ κ³΅ν‰ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 그듀은 λŸ°λ˜μ— 있기
05:52
so you might expect that,
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λ•Œλ¬Έμ— κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ μ˜ˆμƒν•  수
05:53
but often they could speak each other's languages.
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μžˆμ§€λ§Œ μ’…μ’… 그듀은 μ„œλ‘œμ˜ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό 말할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:54
So the Italian could speak Spanish
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λ”°λΌμ„œ μ΄νƒˆλ¦¬μ•„μΈμ€ μŠ€νŽ˜μΈμ–΄λ₯Ό ν•  수
05:56
and the Swede could speak some French.
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있고 μŠ€μ›¨λ΄μΈμ€ ν”„λž‘μŠ€μ–΄λ₯Ό ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
05:58
And I felt really stupid,
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그리고 μ €λŠ” λ‹€λ₯Έ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό μ „ν˜€ λͺ°λžκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 정말 λ©μ²­ν•˜λ‹€κ³  λŠκΌˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
05:59
'cause I didn't know any other languages at all.
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06:01
So I felt like I was just,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” κ·Έλƒ₯,
06:04
something clicked inside my head and I thought,
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λ­”κ°€ 제 머리 속을 μ°°μΉ΅ν•˜κ³  μžˆλŠ” 것 같은 λŠλ‚Œμ΄ λ“€μ—ˆκ³ ,
06:07
hang on, there is a big world out there
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μž κΉλ§Œμš”, μ € λ„ˆλ¨Έμ— 큰 세상이 있고
06:09
and I really haven't got a clue about it.
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그것에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ „ν˜€ μ•Œμ§€ λͺ»ν–ˆμ–΄μš”.
06:12
And I felt bad being the English guy
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그리고 λ‚˜λŠ”
06:15
who couldn't speak other languages.
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λ‹€λ₯Έ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό 말할 수 μ—†λŠ” μ˜κ΅­μΈμ΄λΌλŠ” 것이 μ•ˆνƒ€κΉŒμ› μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:16
And so I said, right, I'm gonna learn French.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” λ§ν–ˆμ–΄μš”. λ§žμ•„μš”, ν”„λž‘μŠ€μ–΄λ₯Ό 배울 κ±°μ˜ˆμš”.
06:18
I'm gonna try.
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λ…Έλ ₯ν•˜κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:19
And then around the same time,
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그리고 λΉ„μŠ·ν•œ μ‹œκΈ°μ—
06:21
my girlfriend at the time broke up with me.
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λ‹Ήμ‹œ μ—¬μžμΉœκ΅¬κ°€ 저와 ν—€μ–΄μ‘ŒμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:23
We'd been together for two years and I was 19,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 2λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ ν•¨κ»˜ μ§€λƒˆκ³  λ‚˜λŠ” 19μ‚΄μ΄μ—ˆκΈ°
06:26
so it was a big deal when she broke up with me
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λ•Œλ¬Έμ— κ·Έλ…€κ°€ λ‚˜μ™€ 헀어진 것은 큰 μΌμ΄μ—ˆκ³ 
06:27
and I was really, really in a mess,
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λ‚˜λŠ” 정말 정말 μ—‰λ§μ§„μ°½μ΄μ—ˆκ³ 
06:31
and I basically ran away.
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기본적으둜 λ„λ§μ³€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:34
I got on a train,
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λ‚˜λŠ” κΈ°μ°¨λ₯Ό 탔고, νŒŒλ¦¬ν–‰
06:36
I bought a one-way ticket on a train to Paris,
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νŽΈλ„ 티켓을 샀고 ,
06:38
I went to live in Paris for six months.
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6κ°œμ›” λ™μ•ˆ νŒŒλ¦¬μ— μ‚΄κΈ° μœ„ν•΄ κ°”λ‹€.
06:40
And I said, right, this is my new life,
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그리고 μ €λŠ” "λ§žμ•„μš”, 이것이 제 μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ μ‚Άμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:43
I'm gonna learn French.
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μ €λŠ” ν”„λž‘μŠ€μ–΄λ₯Ό 배울 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€."라고 λ§ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:44
And so I was really kind of motivated to do it.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 정말 동기λ₯Ό λΆ€μ—¬ λ°›μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
06:48
And I think that's, with language learning,
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제 생각에 μ–Έμ–΄ ν•™μŠ΅μ—λŠ”
06:51
there are a few things that really matter.
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정말 μ€‘μš”ν•œ λͺ‡ 가지가 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:54
Motivation is one of those things,
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동기 λΆ€μ—¬λŠ” κ·ΈλŸ¬ν•œ 것듀 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜
06:56
and I was really motivated.
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이며 μ €λŠ” 정말 동기가 λΆ€μ—¬λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
06:57
- A lot of people tell me that, for example,
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- 예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄ λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 어렸을 λ•Œ μ™Έκ΅­μ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μš°μ§€ μ•Šμ€ 것이
07:00
they're really worried that they didn't learn
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정말 κ±±μ •λœλ‹€κ³  λ§ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:02
any foreign languages then when they were kids,
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07:05
when they were younger,
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07:06
and they're worried that because of that,
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07:08
they will never be able to learn
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07:10
to master a foreign language.
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μ™Έκ΅­μ–΄λ₯Ό λ§ˆμŠ€ν„°ν•˜λŠ” 법을 배울 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:11
And yeah, you just told everyone that it's not true, right?
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그리고 λ„€, 방금 λͺ¨λ‘μ—κ²Œ 그것이 사싀이 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌκ³  λ§ν–ˆμ£ , κ·Έλ ‡μ£ ?
07:14
Because motivation is something
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동기 λΆ€μ—¬λŠ”
07:16
that can really help you learn anything.
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무엇이든 λ°°μš°λŠ” 데 정말 도움이 될 수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:18
- Well, I mean, I was young though, right?
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- κΈ€μŽ„, λ‚΄ 말은, λ‚΄κ°€ μ–΄λ Έμ—ˆμ§€, 그렇지?
07:22
In my language company, StoryLearning,
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제 μ–Έμ–΄ νšŒμ‚¬μΈ StoryLearningμ—λŠ”
07:25
we have a lot of students and many of them are older.
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λ§Žμ€ 학생듀이 있고 κ·Έλ“€ 쀑 λ§Žμ€ μˆ˜κ°€ λ‚˜μ΄κ°€ λ§ŽμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:30
You know, they could be in their 60s or 70s
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60λŒ€λ‚˜ 70λŒ€μΌ μˆ˜λ„
07:31
and they haven't learned a language since high school.
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있고 고등학ꡐ μ΄ν›„λ‘œ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό 배운 적이 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:34
So it's been like maybe 40, 50 years.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‹ˆκΉŒ 40~50λ…„ 정도 된 것 κ°™μ•„μš”.
07:36
And it's very common for people to think,
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그리고 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μƒκ°ν•˜λŠ” 것은 맀우 ν”ν•œ μΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:37
okay, I'm older, I haven't done this for 40, 50 years,
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μ’‹μ•„μš”, μ €λŠ” λ‚˜μ΄κ°€ λ“€μ—ˆκ³  40, 50λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ 이 일을 ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:44
it's too late for me.
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μ €μ—κ²ŒλŠ” λ„ˆλ¬΄ λŠ¦μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:46
But what you find is that when you can motivate people
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ 당신이 λ°œκ²¬ν•œ 것은 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μ¦κΈ°λŠ”
07:49
with a specific way of learning that they enjoy
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νŠΉμ • ν•™μŠ΅ λ°©λ²•μœΌλ‘œ 동기λ₯Ό λΆ€μ—¬ν•˜κ³ 
07:52
and you try and you take the pressure off,
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λ…Έλ ₯ν•˜κ³  뢀담을 λœμ–΄μ€„
07:54
then they can do amazing things.
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λ•Œ 그듀은 λ†€λΌμš΄ 일을 ν•  수 μžˆλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
07:56
And one of the problems
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그리고
07:57
with a lot of modern teaching methods
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λ§Žμ€ ν˜„λŒ€ ꡐ윑 λ°©λ²•μ˜ 문제점 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ” 첫날뢀터 μ²˜μŒλΆ€ν„°
07:59
is it forces you to speak from the beginning, day one.
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λ§ν•˜λ„λ‘ κ°•μš”ν•œλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
08:02
Learn this, now say it front of your class
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이것을 배우고, 이제 반 μ•žμ—μ„œ λ§ν•˜κ³ 
08:04
and practice with your partner.
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νŒŒνŠΈλ„ˆμ™€ ν•¨κ»˜ μ—°μŠ΅ν•˜μ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.
08:05
And that puts incredible pressure on people psychologically.
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그리고 그것은 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ μ‹¬λ¦¬μ μœΌλ‘œ μ—„μ²­λ‚œ μ••λ ₯을 κ°€ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
08:08
'Cause when we speak in a foreign language,
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ™Έκ΅­μ–΄λ‘œ 말할 λ•Œ
08:10
we lose our identity and we are now kind of like,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 우리의 정체성을 μžƒμ–΄λ²„λ¦¬κ³ 
08:12
we are like adult children,
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μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 마치 μ–΄λ₯Έμ΄ 된 아이듀과 κ°™μ•„μ„œ 우리
08:15
we can't express ourselves properly.
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μžμ‹ μ„ μ œλŒ€λ‘œ ν‘œν˜„ν•  수 μ—†κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:17
Very difficult from a perspective of social anxiety,
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μ‚¬νšŒμ  λΆˆμ•ˆμ˜ κ΄€μ μ—μ„œ 보면 맀우 μ–΄λ ΅μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:23
you know, lots of people get very anxious
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λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄
08:25
when they have to speak.
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말을 ν•΄μ•Ό ν•  λ•Œ 맀우 λΆˆμ•ˆν•΄ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:26
So one of the reasons that I'm such a big fan
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ œκ°€ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°λ‘œ λ°°μš°λŠ” 것을 κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” 이유 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ”
08:29
of learning with stories,
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08:31
which basically kind of means learning through context,
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기본적으둜 λ§₯락을 톡해,
08:34
through lots of reading and listening,
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λ§Žμ€ 읽기와 λ“£κΈ°λ₯Ό 톡해 λ°°μš°λŠ” 것을 μ˜λ―Έν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:35
is that you don't have to speak at the beginning.
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μ²˜μŒμ— 말을 ν•  ν•„μš”κ°€ μ—†κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:37
You can take your time to learn gradually,
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점차적으둜 λ°°μš°λŠ” 데 μ‹œκ°„μ„ ν• μ• ν•  수 있고,
08:43
and then speaking can just kind of come later,
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그런 λ‹€μŒ λ§ν•˜κΈ°λŠ” λ‚˜μ€‘μ— 올 수 있고
08:46
can emerge from that.
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κ·Έκ²ƒμ—μ„œ λ‚˜μ˜¬ 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:48
So age really is,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λ‚˜μ΄λŠ” 정말이지
08:50
you know, if you think it's a problem, it is,
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, 문제라고 μƒκ°ν•˜λ©΄ 문제이고, 문제라고
08:53
if you don't think it's a problem, it's not.
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μƒκ°ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμœΌλ©΄ λ¬Έμ œκ°€ μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:55
It's all in your mind. - It's all in your head.
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그것은 λͺ¨λ‘ λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ λ§ˆμŒμ— μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. - λͺ¨λ“  것이 λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ 머릿속에 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
08:58
Yeah, I can completely agree with you.
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λ„€, μ „μ μœΌλ‘œ λ™μ˜ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:00
And this is actually something that I did
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그리고 이것은 μ‹€μ œλ‘œ
09:02
when I was in high school I think.
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μ œκ°€ 고등학ꡐ λ•Œ ν•œ 일이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 어렸을 λ•Œ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό
09:04
Because I started learning English when I was a kid,
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배우기 μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
09:07
this is something that everyone does
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09:09
when they're at school in Russia.
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λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—μ„œ 학ꡐ에 κ°€λ©΄ λˆ„κ΅¬λ‚˜ ν•˜λŠ” μΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:11
And obviously like when I was a kid,
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그리고 λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ 어렸을 λ•Œμ²˜λŸΌ
09:12
I didn't like English at all,
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μ €λŠ” μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό μ „ν˜€ μ’‹μ•„ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜κ³  μ†”μ§νžˆ
09:14
I didn't real like studying that much to be honest.
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κ³΅λΆ€ν•˜λŠ” 것을 그닀지 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
09:16
But then when I actually started liking English more,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό 더 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œ λͺ¨κ΅­μ–΄λ‘œλ„ μ½λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
09:20
I was just reading everything because I love reading,
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λͺ¨λ“  것을 읽고 μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:24
even in my native language, right?
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09:26
So for me it was kind of like natural
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €μ—κ²ŒλŠ”
09:27
to progress to reading books in English.
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μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ 된 책을 μ½λŠ” 것이 μžμ—°μŠ€λŸ¬μš΄ μΌμ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:30
Yeah, now I just read everything,
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예, μ§€κΈˆμ€ 거의 맀일 λͺ¨λ“  것을 μ½μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:32
I don't know, almost every single day.
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λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:34
- I mean, it is those things that,
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- 제 말은, λ…μ„œκ°€
09:36
it's not just very effective,
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맀우 효과적일 뿐만
09:37
but reading, it also has the benefit
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μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
09:39
of being something you can do anywhere.
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μ–΄λ””μ—μ„œλ‚˜ ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” 이점이 μžˆλ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:42
You can do it in bed, in the kitchen, on the train.
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μΉ¨λŒ€μ—μ„œ, λΆ€μ—Œμ—μ„œ, κΈ°μ°¨μ—μ„œ ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
09:45
And so one of the things that you are always looking for
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 당신이
09:49
when helping people with languages,
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μ–Έμ–΄λ‘œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ„ λ„μšΈ λ•Œ 항상 μ°Ύκ³  μžˆλŠ” 것 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ”
09:51
like what can you do that fits into your life?
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λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ 삢에 λ§žλŠ” 무엇을 ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ ?
09:55
And if you insist on having a language class
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그리고 λ§Œμ•½ 당신이 μ–Έμ–΄ μˆ˜μ—…μ„ λ°›κ±°λ‚˜
09:57
or actually learning by speaking with somebody,
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λˆ„κ΅°κ°€μ™€ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•¨μœΌλ‘œμ¨ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ λ°°μš°λŠ” 것을 κ³ μ§‘ν•œλ‹€λ©΄,
09:59
it's really hard logistically
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10:01
to actually have that time to speak with people.
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μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€κ³Ό 이야기할 μ‹œκ°„μ„ κ°–λŠ” 것은 λ…Όλ¦¬μ μœΌλ‘œ 정말 μ–΄λ ΅μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:03
But with reading, not only is it very,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ½κΈ°λŠ”
10:09
you know, having words on the page
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νŽ˜μ΄μ§€μ— 단어가 μžˆλŠ” 것이
10:10
is a very good way to study,
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κ³΅λΆ€ν•˜λŠ” μ•„μ£Ό 쒋은 방법일 뿐만 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
10:12
because you can go forwards, you can go back, you can check,
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μ•žμœΌλ‘œ 갈 수 있고 λ’€λ‘œ 갈 수 있고 확인할 수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
10:15
it's a very convenient mode for studying.
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κ³΅λΆ€ν•˜κΈ°μ— 맀우 νŽΈλ¦¬ν•œ λͺ¨λ“œμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:19
And then the fact that you can do it anywhere
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그리고 μ–΄λ””μ—μ„œλ‚˜ ν•  수 μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 사싀은 λ…μ„œμ™€ μ‚¬λž‘μ— 빠질 수
10:21
means that if you can get yourself
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μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
10:24
to fall in love with reading, you've already won,
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이미 이겼고
10:29
you've already won the game.
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10:29
- I agree with you, because you said that, for example,
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이미 κ²Œμž„μ—μ„œ μ΄κ²Όλ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ˜λ―Έν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
- 예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄,
10:32
when we speak with other people,
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ λ‹€λ₯Έ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€κ³Ό 이야기할 λ•Œ
10:34
sometimes other people are not interested
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λ•Œλ•Œλ‘œ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 관심 μžˆλŠ” 것에 λ‹€λ₯Έ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ 관심이 μ—†λ‹€κ³  λ§μ”€ν•˜μ…¨κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— λ™μ˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:36
in the things we're interested it in, right?
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10:38
But when you are reading something,
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ 무언가λ₯Ό 읽을 λ•Œ
10:39
you can choose the materials you like.
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μ›ν•˜λŠ” 자료λ₯Ό 선택할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:42
If you wanna just read and relax,
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κ·Έλƒ₯ 읽고 쉬고 μ‹Άλ‹€λ©΄
10:45
you can, I don't know, choose like a fiction book maybe,
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μ†Œμ„€μ±…μ²˜λŸΌ 선택할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:47
but if you wanna learn something new,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ 것을 배우고 μ‹Άλ‹€λ©΄
10:49
maybe like a non-fiction book,
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λ…Όν”½μ…˜ μ±…κ³Ό
10:51
like a non-fiction story will be better for you.
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같은 λ…Όν”½μ…˜ 이야기가 더 λ‚˜μ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ„ˆ.
10:54
- Being able to choose your own material is huge.
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- μžμ‹ μ˜ 재료λ₯Ό 선택할 수 μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 것은 μ—„μ²­λ‚©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
10:58
So one of the,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ·Έ 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ”
11:00
I don't know if your audience is familiar
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청쀑이
11:01
with the concept of comprehensible input,
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이해할 수 μžˆλŠ” μž…λ ₯의 κ°œλ…μ— μ΅μˆ™ν• μ§€ λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:03
it's the idea that we should read and listen to things
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그것은 μš°λ¦¬κ°€
11:08
not that are necessarily at native level,
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λ°˜λ“œμ‹œ 원어민 μˆ˜μ€€μ΄
11:10
but at a level that we can understand,
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μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 이해할 수 μžˆλŠ” μˆ˜μ€€μ—μ„œ 읽고 λ“€μ–΄μ•Ό ν•œλ‹€λŠ” μƒκ°μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:12
that we are ready for.
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11:12
So if you are an intermediate level in English,
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ€€λΉ„λ˜μ–΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
λ”°λΌμ„œ μ˜μ–΄ 쀑급 μˆ˜μ€€μ΄λΌλ©΄
11:15
then you should be reading material
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11:17
at intermediate or upper intermediate level.
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쀑급 λ˜λŠ” 쀑상급 μˆ˜μ€€μ˜ 자료λ₯Ό 읽어야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:19
If you can understand,
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이해할 수 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
11:21
you can understand the messages, then you will learn.
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λ©”μ‹œμ§€λ₯Ό 이해할 수 μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€ . 그러면 배우게 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:24
That's comprehensible input.
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이해할 수 μžˆλŠ” μž…λ ₯μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:25
The other side of it is compelling input,
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κ·Έκ²ƒμ˜ λ‹€λ₯Έ 츑면은
11:27
which means basically read and listen to stuff
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기본적으둜
11:30
that you are really, really interested in.
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당신이 μ •λ§λ‘œ μ •λ§λ‘œ 관심이 μžˆλŠ” 것을 읽고 λ“£λŠ” 것을 μ˜λ―Έν•˜λŠ” 섀득λ ₯ μžˆλŠ” μž…λ ₯μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:32
Because if you're really interested in it,
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ 당신이 그것에 μ •λ§λ‘œ 관심이 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
11:34
then you'll learn.
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배울 것이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:35
And so like you said, with reading, it's just great,
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그리고 당신이 λ§ν–ˆλ“―μ΄, λ…μ„œλŠ”
11:36
because you can literally learn from anything you want.
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당신이 μ›ν•˜λŠ” λͺ¨λ“  κ²ƒμ—μ„œ 문자 κ·ΈλŒ€λ‘œ 배울 수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 정말 μ’‹μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:39
If you like gardening, read about gardening.
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정원 κ°€κΎΈκΈ°λ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•œλ‹€λ©΄ 정원 가꾸기에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ½μ–΄λ³΄μ„Έμš”.
11:41
- Yeah, exactly!
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- 예 λ°”λ‘œ κ·Έ κ±°μ˜ˆμš”!
11:44
- If you like Russian literature,
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- λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„ 문학을 μ’‹μ•„ν•œλ‹€λ©΄ ν†¨μŠ€ν† μ΄μ˜
11:48
then why not read an English translation of Tolstoy?
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영문 λ²ˆμ—­λ³Έμ„ μ½μ–΄λ³΄λŠ” 건 μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒμš” ?
11:54
That might be sacrilegious in Russia, I dunno,
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λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—μ„œλŠ” 그게 μ‹ μ„±λͺ¨λ…일지 λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μ§€λ§Œ,
11:55
but you get the idea, right?
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이해가 λ˜μ‹œμ£ ?
11:56
You can follow your interests as far as the go.
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μ΄λ™ν•˜λŠ” ν•œ 관심사λ₯Ό λ”°λ₯Ό 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
11:59
- No, actually I read
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- μ•„λ‹ˆμš”, 사싀 μ €λŠ”
12:00
one Russian book in English translation,
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μ˜μ–΄ λ²ˆμ—­μœΌλ‘œ 된 λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ–΄ 책을 ν•œ ꢌ μ½μ—ˆλŠ”λ°
12:05
it was "Master and Margarita,"
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"λ§ˆμŠ€ν„°μ™€ λ§ˆκ°€λ¦¬νƒ€"μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:07
and it was great because I love this book,
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μ €λŠ” 이 책을 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— μ’‹μ•˜κ³  λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ–΄λ‘œ
12:10
and I read it twice in Russian and I was like,
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두 번 μ½μ—ˆλŠ”λ°
12:13
why not read it in English?
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μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ 읽어보면 μ–΄λ–¨κΉŒ ν•˜λŠ” 생각이 λ“€μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:14
Like, I like this book.
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마치, λ‚˜λŠ” 이 책을 μ’‹μ•„ν•œλ‹€.
12:15
- Well that's a fantastic tip right there for anyone.
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- λˆ„κ΅¬μ—κ²Œλ‚˜ ν™˜μƒμ μΈ νŒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:18
Anyone who wants to start reading, try this.
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λ…μ„œλ₯Ό μ‹œμž‘ν•˜λ €λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ€ 이것을 μ‹œλ„ν•˜μ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.
12:20
Take a book you've already read in Russian
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이미 λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ–΄λ‘œ 읽은 책을 가지고
12:22
and then read the translation in English.
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μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ λ²ˆμ—­λœ 책을 μ½μœΌμ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.
12:24
Because what happens there is you already know the plot,
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κ±°κΈ°μ—μ„œ μΌμ–΄λ‚˜λŠ” 일은 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ΄ 이미 쀄거리λ₯Ό μ•Œκ³  있고
12:30
you know what's happening,
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무슨 일이 μΌμ–΄λ‚˜κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ•Œκ³  있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:31
which means when you then read in English,
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즉, μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ 읽을 λ•Œ 이미 μ•Œκ³  μžˆλŠ” μ˜λ―Έμ—
12:33
you can map the language onto meaning that you already have.
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μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό 맀핑할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
12:40
Because often the difficulty with reading
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ μ’…μ’… 읽기의 어렀움은
12:42
is that you are reading new words and phrases
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당신이 λͺ¨λ₯΄λŠ” μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ μ–Έμ–΄λ‘œ 된 μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ 단어와 ꡬλ₯Ό 읽고
12:46
in a new language that you don't know,
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12:47
but you also don't know what's happening in the story,
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μžˆμ§€λ§Œ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°μ—μ„œ 무슨 일이 μΌμ–΄λ‚˜κ³  μžˆλŠ”μ§€λ„ λͺ¨λ₯΄κΈ°
12:49
so you've got to consolidate those two things.
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λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 이 두 가지λ₯Ό 톡합해야 ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
12:51
Sometimes you can read a word,
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λ•Œλ‘œλŠ” 단어λ₯Ό 읽을 수
12:52
but not really understand how it's being used.
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μžˆμ§€λ§Œ μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μ‚¬μš©λ˜λŠ”μ§€ μ΄ν•΄ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•˜λŠ” κ²½μš°κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ . 의미λ₯Ό νŒŒμ•…ν•˜κΈ° 전에 이미 읽은
12:54
Well if you can read something that you've read before
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λ‚΄μš©μ„ 읽을 수 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
12:57
you take care of the meaning,
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12:58
which means then you can just focus on the language
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μ–Έμ–΄μ—λ§Œ 집쀑할 수
13:00
and that's a really good thing to do.
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있고 정말 쒋은 μΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:05
Right now I'm actually reading a book by Higashino Keigo,
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μ§€κΈˆμ€ 일본 μž‘κ°€ νžˆκ°€μ‹œλ…Έ μΌ€μ΄κ³ μ˜ 책을 읽고 μžˆμ–΄μš”
13:09
he's a Japanese author.
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13:11
And I actually read the English translation first,
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사싀 μ €λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ λ²ˆμ—­λ³Έμ„ λ¨Όμ € μ½μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:14
'cause someone gave me the book, and I loved it.
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λˆ„κ΅°κ°€ 제게 책을 μ£Όμ—ˆκ³  μ €λŠ” κ·Έ 책이 λ„ˆλ¬΄ μ’‹μ•˜κ±°λ“ μš”.
13:17
So I said right, I'm gonna go and read this in Japanese.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” μ˜³λ‹€κ³  λ§ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ°€μ„œ μΌλ³Έμ–΄λ‘œ 이것을 읽을 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:19
So I'm now reading the original Japanese
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ§€κΈˆμ€
13:21
having read the English translation.
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μ˜μ–΄ λ²ˆμ—­λ³Έμ„ 읽은 ν›„ 일본어 원문을 읽고 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:23
And it doesn't matter, just follow whatever you like.
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그리고 그것은 μ€‘μš”ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ›ν•˜λŠ” 것을 λ”°λ₯΄μ‹­μ‹œμ˜€. λ§ˆμŒμ—
13:25
If you got a book you like, just go for it!
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λ“œλŠ” 책이 있으면 λ°”λ‘œ κ°€μ„Έμš”!
13:27
- What do you think about reading children's books?
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- 동화책을 μ½λŠ” 것에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ μƒκ°ν•˜μ„Έμš” ?
13:29
- The misconception is, it's a children's book
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- μ˜€ν•΄μ˜ μ†Œμ§€κ°€ μžˆλŠ” 것은, μ–΄λ¦°μ΄μš© 책이라
13:32
therefore it's easy, because it's for children.
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μ–΄λ¦°μ΄μš©μ΄κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— μ‰½λ‹€λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:36
but children's books are generally actually not easy at all.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ 아동 λ„μ„œλŠ” 일반적으둜 μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ „ν˜€ 쉽지 μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:39
They have lots of strange animals
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그듀은 λ§Žμ€ μ΄μƒν•œ 동물
13:42
and people who do weird, funny things.
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κ³Ό μ΄μƒν•˜κ³  μž¬λ―ΈμžˆλŠ” 일을 ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:45
The vocabulary is quite strange.
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μš©μ–΄κ°€ μƒλ‹Ήνžˆ μ΄μƒν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ”
13:46
If you have a children's book that you love,
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동화책이 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
13:48
then of course you can read it.
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λ‹Ήμ—°νžˆ 읽을 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:50
No one should ever say don't do this thing.
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아무도 이 일을 ν•˜μ§€ 말라고 λ§ν•΄μ„œλŠ” μ•ˆ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:51
But what you'll probably find if you read children's books,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 어린이 책을 읽으면 μ•„λ§ˆ μ•Œκ²Œ 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
13:56
number one, it could have quite a lot
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첫째,
13:58
of strange vocabulary in it which you don't need,
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ν•„μš”ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ μ΄μƒν•œ μ–΄νœ˜κ°€ μƒλ‹Ήνžˆ λ§Žμ„ 수 있고
14:02
and secondly, you're not gonna be interested in it.
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λ‘˜μ§Έ, 관심이 없을 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
14:05
If you're an adult,
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당신이 μ–΄λ₯Έμ΄λΌλ©΄
14:06
you're not gonna be interested in a children's book,
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14:10
unless it's maybe Harry Potter
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14:11
that the whole world seems to love.
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μ „ 세계가 μ‚¬λž‘ν•˜λŠ” 해리포터가 μ•„λ‹Œ 이상 λ™ν™”μ±…μ—λŠ” 관심이 없을 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
14:14
So generally I'd say don't make the mistake
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 일반적으둜 μ €λŠ”
14:16
of thinking that because it's a children's book it is easy.
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그것이 어린이 책이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 쉽닀고 μƒκ°ν•˜λŠ” μ‹€μˆ˜λ₯Ό ν•˜μ§€ 말라고 λ§ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
14:21
It's probably not.
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μ•„λ§ˆ 그렇지 μ•Šμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
14:23
If you want to try something easier,
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더 μ‰¬μš΄ 것을 μ‹œλ„ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άλ‹€λ©΄
14:27
then you can try non-fiction.
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λ…Όν”½μ…˜μ„ μ‹œλ„ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
14:29
Non-fiction tends to be easier
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λ…Όν”½μ…˜μ€
14:31
'cause it's written in more simple language,
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μ’€ 더 λ‹¨μˆœν•œ μ–Έμ–΄λ‘œ μ“°μ—¬μ‘ŒκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 더 μ‰¬μš΄ κ²½ν–₯이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
14:34
or you can go for graded readers.
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14:35
Like I have my book of English stories for example,
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예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄ μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ 쓰여진 μ˜μ–΄ 이야기 책이 μžˆμ§€λ§Œ
14:38
which are written in English,
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14:39
but they are graded to a A2 or B1 level.
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A2 λ˜λŠ” B1 레벨둜 등급이 λ§€κ²¨μ§‘λ‹ˆλ‹€.
14:43
That way you can start to read material
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κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ ν•˜λ©΄
14:46
that's interesting to you,
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ν₯λ―Έλ‘­μ§€λ§Œ
14:49
but is at the right level
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μ μ ˆν•œ μˆ˜μ€€μ— μžˆλŠ” 자료λ₯Ό 읽기 μ‹œμž‘ν•  수 있고 μ…°μ΅μŠ€ν”Όμ–΄ μ›μž‘μ„
14:50
and it's not like reading Shakespeare in the original,
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μ½λŠ” 것과 같지 μ•Šμ•„
14:55
which is not gonna be easy!
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쉽지 μ•Šμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€!
14:57
- Yeah, I agree with you.
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- λ„€, λ™μ˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
14:58
And right now I wanted to talk to you about graded readers,
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그리고 λ°”λ‘œ μ§€κΈˆ μ €λŠ” 등급별 λ…μžμ— λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
15:01
because this is something that I used a lot
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ 이것은
15:05
when I was an intermediate student and then also upper,
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μ œκ°€ 쀑급 ν•™μƒμ΄μ—ˆμ„ λ•Œ 그리고
15:09
I don't know, even when I was a beginner,
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μƒκΈ‰μƒμ΄μ—ˆμ„ λ•Œ 많이 μ‚¬μš©ν–ˆλ˜ 것이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
15:10
like at all the stages of my English learning journey.
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λ‚΄ μ˜μ–΄ ν•™μŠ΅ μ—¬μ •μ˜ 단계.
15:13
I still remember when I was still living
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λ‚˜λŠ” μ—¬μ „νžˆ
15:16
in a different Russian town,
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λ‹€λ₯Έ λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„ λ„μ‹œμ— μ‚΄κ³  μžˆμ—ˆμ„ λ•Œλ₯Ό κΈ°μ–΅ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
15:18
I would go to like a library,
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λ„μ„œκ΄€μ²˜λŸΌ κ°€κ³ 
15:20
and sometimes we would even have them in libraries,
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λ•Œλ‘œλŠ”
15:22
like different graded readers.
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λ‹€λ₯Έ λ“±κΈ‰μ˜ λ…μžμ²˜λŸΌ λ„μ„œκ΄€μ— λ³΄κ΄€ν•˜κΈ°λ„ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μˆ˜μ€€μ΄ λ‹¬λΌμ„œ
15:24
It was amazing, because this was the first time
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처음으둜
15:27
when I felt confident in my English,
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μ˜μ–΄μ— μžμ‹ κ°μ„ λŠλ‚€ 건 정말 μ‹ κΈ°ν–ˆμ–΄μš”
15:29
because of different levels.
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15:31
Could you please tell us more about your graded readers
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등급별 λ…μž
15:34
and your method behind them?
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와 κ·Έ 이면에 μžˆλŠ” 방법에 λŒ€ν•΄ μžμ„Ένžˆ 말씀해 μ£Όμ‹œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
15:36
- Can I ask you a question first?
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- λ¨Όμ € 질문 ν•˜λ‚˜ 해도 λ κΉŒμš”?
15:37
'Cause I'm curious, you said that you read
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κΆκΈˆν•΄μ„œ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό 배울
15:40
lots of graded readers when you were learning English.
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λ•Œ 등급이 맀겨진 책을 많이 μ½μ—ˆλ‹€κ³  ν•˜μ…¨μ–΄μš” .
15:42
Could you find graded readers that you actually liked,
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μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μ’‹μ•„ν•˜κ³ 
15:45
that were interesting that you wanted to read?
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ν₯λ―Έλ‘œμ›Œμ„œ 읽고 μ‹Άμ—ˆλ˜ 등급별 λ…μžλ₯Ό 찾을 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
15:46
- Yeah. - Really?
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- 응. - 정말?
15:47
- Yeah, of course, yeah.
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- λ„€, 물둠이죠.
15:48
- What kind of things did you find?
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- μ–΄λ–€ 점을 μ°ΎμœΌμ…¨λ‚˜μš”?
15:49
- I mean, usually they were just like simplified books
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- λ‚΄ 말은, 보톡 그것듀은 μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 이미 가지고 μžˆλŠ” λ‹¨μˆœν™”λœ μ±…κ³Ό κ°™μ•˜κ³ 
15:52
that we already have,
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15:53
they weren't like news stories.
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λ‰΄μŠ€ κΈ°μ‚¬μ™€λŠ” λ‹¬λžμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
15:55
I don't know, like any book really,
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λ‚˜λŠ” μ–΄λ–€ μ±…κ³Ό λ§ˆμ°¬κ°€μ§€λ‘œ μ‹€μ œλ‘œλŠ” λͺ¨λ₯΄μ§€λ§Œ
15:57
but just simplified.
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λ‹¨μˆœν™”ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
15:58
Any maybe like classical literature, I don't know.
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κ³ μ „ λ¬Έν•™κ³Ό 같은 것이 μžˆμ„μ§€ λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
16:01
But obviously closer to the,
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ 그것에 더 κ°€κΉμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
16:04
I think when it was a beginner it was still,
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제 생각에 그것이 μ΄ˆλ³΄μžμ˜€μ„ λ•ŒλŠ” μ—¬μ „νžˆ
16:06
I don't know, like simple stories,
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λ‹¨μˆœν•œ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°μ²˜λŸΌ
16:08
also the stories that we all know.
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우리 λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ μ•Œκ³  μžˆλŠ” μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°μ˜€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
16:11
We all know them, we all love them, but they're simplified.
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우리 λͺ¨λ‘λŠ” 그것듀을 μ•Œκ³  있고 μ‚¬λž‘ ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 그것듀은 λ‹¨μˆœν™”λ˜μ–΄ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
16:13
And then later maybe like even Shakespeare,
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그리고 λ‚˜μ€‘μ—λŠ” μ…°μ΅μŠ€ν”Όμ–΄μ™€ λΉ„μŠ·
16:16
but also simplified.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ‹¨μˆœν™”λ˜κΈ°λ„ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
16:18
- So often what I found when I was teaching English
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- μ œκ°€ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό κ°€λ₯΄μΉ  λ•Œ 자주 λ°œκ²¬ν–ˆμ§€λ§Œ μ €λ§Œμ˜ μ–Έμ–΄ 자료λ₯Ό
16:22
but also looking at wanting to create
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λ§Œλ“€κ³  μ‹Άμ–΄ν•˜λŠ” 것을 λ³΄λ©΄μ„œ
16:26
my own language material,
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16:27
I noticed that all of the graded readers
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등급이 맀겨진 λͺ¨λ“  λ…μžκ°€
16:29
seemed to be the things that you mentioned,
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당신이 μ–ΈκΈ‰ν•œ 것,
16:31
classical literature or folk tales or folk stories.
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κ³ μ „ λ¬Έν•™μ΄λ‚˜ λ―Όν™” λ˜λŠ” 민속 이야기인 것 κ°™λ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ•Œμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
16:36
- Exactly, yeah! - Very old things.
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- λ§žμ•„μš”! - μ•„μ£Ό 였래된 것듀.
16:38
- And if you happen to like that, well that's great.
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- λ§Œμ•½ 당신이 그것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•œλ‹€λ©΄ , μ’‹μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
16:42
But then for me, that gets boring quite quickly.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μ €μ—κ²ŒλŠ” 그게 μ•„μ£Ό 빨리 μ§€λ£¨ν•΄μ§‘λ‹ˆλ‹€.
16:44
As much as I like classical literature,
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κ³ μ „ 문학을 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” 만큼, μ–΄μ©Œλ©΄ 더 μž¬λ―ΈμžˆλŠ”
16:46
I also want to read other things that are more fun perhaps.
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λ‹€λ₯Έ 것듀도 읽고 μ‹Άμ–΄μš” .
16:50
And so I just noticed that that seemed to be
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ
16:54
a problem in the market for graded readers.
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등급이 맀겨진 λ…μžλ₯Ό μœ„ν•œ μ‹œμž₯μ—μ„œ 그것이 문제인 것 κ°™λ‹€λŠ” 것을 방금 μ•Œμ•„μ°¨λ ΈμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ‹€μ œλ‘œ ν₯λ―Έλ‘­κ³  μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 읽고 싢은
17:01
There wasn't enough graded reader material
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등급별 λ…μž μžλ£Œκ°€ μΆ©λΆ„ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
17:04
that was actually interesting,
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17:05
that you actually want to read.
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.
17:07
So about five years ago I started writing
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ•½ 5λ…„ μ „λΆ€ν„°
17:10
my own books of graded readers.
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등급이 맀겨진 λ…μžμ— λŒ€ν•œ μ €λ§Œμ˜ 책을 μ“°κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
17:13
And my goal was really simple,
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제 λͺ©ν‘œλŠ” 정말 κ°„λ‹¨ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
17:16
my goal was to create fresh, modern, interesting
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제 λͺ©ν‘œλŠ” λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ 언어에 λŒ€ν•œ μ‹ μ„ ν•˜κ³  ν˜„λŒ€μ μ΄λ©° ν₯미둜운
17:21
graded readers for different languages.
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등급별 λ…μžλ₯Ό λ§Œλ“œλŠ” κ²ƒμ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
17:25
English is the language
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17:25
where you have a lot of graded readers already,
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μ˜μ–΄λŠ”
이미 등급이 맀겨진 λ…μžκ°€ λ§Žμ€ μ–Έμ–΄μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
17:28
but if you go to like Spanish, French,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ μŠ€νŽ˜μΈμ–΄, ν”„λž‘μŠ€μ–΄λ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•œλ‹€λ©΄ 그닀지
17:30
there's not much, like there are some,
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λ§Žμ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. λͺ‡λͺ‡μ΄ μžˆλŠ” κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌμš”.
17:32
but they're also old and they're also boring.
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 그듀도 λ‚‘κ³  μ§€λ£¨ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
17:34
And so I wanted like make
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ”
17:38
the Netflix equivalent of graded readers,
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Netflixλ₯Ό 등급이 맀겨진 λ…μžμ™€ λ™λ“±ν•˜κ²Œ λ§Œλ“€κ³  μ‹Άμ—ˆκ³ ,
17:40
something modern and fresh,
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ν˜„λŒ€μ μ΄κ³  μ‹ μ„ ν•œ 무언가λ₯Ό λ§Œλ“€κ³  μ‹Άμ—ˆκ³ 
17:42
and so I started writing these books.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 이 책듀을 μ“°κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
17:45
And even from the artwork,
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그리고 μ•„νŠΈμ›Œν¬μ—μ„œλ„
17:49
we try and make it very modern, you know?
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맀우 ν˜„λŒ€μ μœΌλ‘œ λ§Œλ“€λ €κ³  λ…Έλ ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
17:51
So like something that's this kind of Art Deco style stuff.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 이런 μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ μ•„λ₯΄λ°μ½” μŠ€νƒ€μΌ 물건 같은 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
17:55
And adding things like images
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그리고 이야기에 이미지와 μ‚½ν™” 같은 것을 μΆ”κ°€ν•˜μ—¬
18:02
and illustrations to the stories,
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18:04
like everything that you want
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18:05
to make it more interesting and fun to enjoy.
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더 ν₯λ―Έλ‘­κ³  재미있게 즐길 수 μžˆλ„λ‘ ν•˜κ³  싢은 λͺ¨λ“  것을 μΆ”κ°€ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
18:09
So I set out to do that.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ ν•˜κΈ°λ‘œ ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
18:13
- And was it challenging?
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- λ„μ „μ μ΄μ—ˆλ‚˜μš”?
18:15
So you had to write all of the stories yourself,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λͺ¨λ“  이야기λ₯Ό 직접 μž‘μ„±ν•΄μ•Ό ν–ˆλŠ”λ° ,
18:18
how many did you write?
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λͺ‡ κ°œλ‚˜ μ“°μ…¨λ‚˜μš”?
18:19
- So the books themselves are,
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- λ”°λΌμ„œ μ±… μžμ²΄λŠ”
18:21
from one language to the rest are translated.
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ν•œ μ–Έμ–΄μ—μ„œ λ‚˜λ¨Έμ§€ μ–Έμ–΄λ‘œ λ²ˆμ—­λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
18:23
So that's the first book I wrote was in Spanish.
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이것이 μ œκ°€ μ“΄ 첫 번째 책이 μŠ€νŽ˜μΈμ–΄λ‘œ 된 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
18:25
I don't have a copy of it here,
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λ‚˜λŠ” 여기에 사본이 μ—†μ§€λ§Œ
18:26
but I write this book of Spanish short stories.
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이 μŠ€νŽ˜μΈμ–΄ λ‹¨νŽΈ μ†Œμ„€ 책을 μ”λ‹ˆλ‹€.
18:28
And there's only eight in the book,
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그리고 μ±…μ—λŠ” 8κ°œλ°–μ— μ—†μ–΄μš”.
18:29
I think I did 10 at the beginning and discarded two of them,
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μ²˜μŒμ— 10개λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  κ·Έ 쀑 2개λ₯Ό 버린 것 κ°™μ•„μ„œ κ²°κ΅­
18:33
so we ended up with eight.
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8κ°œκ°€ λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
18:35
And then when we created the book
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그리고 μš°λ¦¬κ°€
18:38
in the Italian or Dutch or Japanese,
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μ΄νƒˆλ¦¬μ•„μ–΄, λ„€λœλž€λ“œμ–΄, μΌλ³Έμ–΄λ‘œ 책을 λ§Œλ“€μ—ˆμ„ λ•Œ,
18:40
they're translations and localizations of those stories.
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그것듀은 κ·Έ 이야기듀을 λ²ˆμ—­ν•˜κ³  ν˜„μ§€ν™”ν•œ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
18:44
So I think I wrote three sets of books.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ„Έ ꢌ의 책을 μ“΄ 것 κ°™μ•„μš”.
18:45
One was beginner volume one, beginner volume 2,
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ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ” μ΄ˆκΈ‰ 1ꢌ, μ΄ˆκΈ‰ 2ꢌ, κ·Έ
18:48
and then intermediate as well.
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λ‹€μŒμ€ μ€‘κΈ‰μ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
18:50
But they're fairly short stories.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ 그듀은 μƒλ‹Ήνžˆ 짧은 μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
18:52
So, the stories are not,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°λŠ”
18:55
it's not high literature, you know, these stories,
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κ³ κΈ‰ 문학이 μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ•„μ‹œλ‹€μ‹œν”Ό 이 μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°λŠ”
19:00
because they are graded readers
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19:02
for beginners, for intermediate.
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μ΄ˆκΈ‰, 쀑급 λ…μžλ₯Ό μœ„ν•œ 등급이 맀겨진 λ…μžμ΄κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:03
But I try to make them just fun and interesting.
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ λ‚˜λŠ” 그것듀을 재미 있고 ν₯미둭게 λ§Œλ“€λ €κ³  λ…Έλ ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
19:08
I've been blogging,
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μ €λŠ” λΈ”λ‘œκ·Έλ₯Ό μš΄μ˜ν•˜κ³  있으며
19:09
I have a website called storylearning.com,
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storylearning.comμ΄λΌλŠ” μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈλ₯Ό μš΄μ˜ν•˜κ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:12
which I've had since 2013, it's eight years.
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2013λ…„λΆ€ν„° μš΄μ˜ν•΄ μ˜¨μ§€ 벌써 8년이 λ˜μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:15
So on storylearning.com,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ storylearn.comμ—μ„œ
19:17
I wrote hundreds and hundreds of blog articles.
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수백 개의 λΈ”λ‘œκ·Έ 기사λ₯Ό μΌμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:20
So I had a lot of people
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ
19:22
that were subscribed to my newsletter.
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제 λ‰΄μŠ€λ ˆν„°λ₯Ό κ΅¬λ…ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ λ§Žμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:25
And so when I started writing these stories,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 이 이야기λ₯Ό μ“°κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμ„ λ•Œ
19:28
I asked my audience,
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μ²­μ€‘μ—κ²Œ λ¬Όμ–΄λ΄€μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:30
hey, tell me, what kind of stories do you like to read?
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μ–΄λ–€ μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ 이야기λ₯Ό μ½λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•©λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
19:34
And they would tell me, and I'd run these surveys and polls
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그리고 그듀은 μ €μ—κ²Œ λ§ν–ˆκ³  μ €λŠ” μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ μ„€λ¬Έ 쑰사와 μ„€λ¬Έ 쑰사λ₯Ό μ‹€ν–‰ν–ˆκ³ 
19:38
and a few genres went to the top.
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λͺ‡ 가지 μž₯λ₯΄κ°€ 정상에 μ˜¬λžμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:40
So they would say, everyone likes science fiction.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 그듀은 λͺ¨λ‘κ°€ 곡상 κ³Όν•™ μ†Œμ„€μ„ μ’‹μ•„ν•œλ‹€κ³  말할 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:44
And I thought that's strange,
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μ €λŠ” 그것이 μ΄μƒν•˜λ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:45
'cause I don't read science fiction.
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μ €λŠ” 곡상과학 μ†Œμ„€μ„ 읽지 μ•ŠκΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:46
- Yeah, me neither. - People like science fiction.
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- 그래, λ‚˜λ„. - SFλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€.
19:48
And you like crime stories.
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그리고 당신은 범죄 이야기λ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:50
Okay, more predictable.
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μ’‹μ•„μš”, 더 예츑 κ°€λŠ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
19:51
Historical fiction.
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역사 μ†Œμ„€.
19:55
And so I got this sense
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 정말 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ”
19:57
of like the four or five genres that people really liked,
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4~5가지 μž₯λ₯΄μ— λŒ€ν•œ λŠλ‚Œμ„ μ–»μ—ˆκ³ 
19:59
and then I wrote stories on all of these different genres,
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이 λͺ¨λ“  λ‹€μ–‘ν•œ μž₯λ₯΄μ— λŒ€ν•œ 이야기λ₯Ό μΌμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
20:02
so that there's something for everyone in the book.
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.
20:05
And then we did some testing,
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그런 λ‹€μŒ λͺ‡ 가지 ν…ŒμŠ€νŠΈλ₯Ό μˆ˜ν–‰ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:07
so I said, okay, go and read these stories.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 이 이야기λ₯Ό 읽어보라고 λ§ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:08
Tell me, do you like them, do you not like them?
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말해봐, μ’‹μ•„ν•΄, μ‹«μ–΄ν•΄?
20:10
My audience would tell me what they like.
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λ‚΄ 청쀑은 그듀이 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” 것을 말해 쀄 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:11
And it was really a collaboration
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그리고 그것은
20:14
between me as the creator of the concept
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κ°œλ…μ˜ μ°½μ‹œμžμΈ μ €
20:19
and then my audience who would read them
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와 그것을 읽고
20:22
and give me feedback.
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제게 ν”Όλ“œλ°±μ„ 쀄 제 청쀑 μ‚¬μ΄μ˜ μ§„μ •ν•œ ν˜‘λ ₯μ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:24
And so in the end,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ²°κ΅­μ—λŠ”
20:25
I think we ended up with a format
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20:27
where everything from like how long each chapter is,
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각 μž₯의 길이와 같은 λͺ¨λ“  것이
20:31
that was very scientifically determined.
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맀우 κ³Όν•™μ μœΌλ‘œ κ²°μ •λœ ν˜•μ‹μœΌλ‘œ 끝났닀고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:35
Because if the chapters are too long,
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챕터가 λ„ˆλ¬΄ κΈΈλ©΄
20:37
it becomes too hard and you get bored.
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λ„ˆλ¬΄ μ–΄λ €μ›Œμ§€κ³  지루해지기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:39
So we had to make the chapters the right length.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 챕터λ₯Ό μ μ ˆν•œ 길이둜 λ§Œλ“€μ–΄μ•Ό ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:41
And so, yeah, it was a very fun process to do.
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λ„€, μ•„μ£Ό μž¬λ―ΈμžˆλŠ” κ³Όμ •μ΄μ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:46
- Wow, that's so interesting.
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- 와, 정말 ν₯λ―Έλ‘­λ„€μš”.
20:48
Yeah, I love historical fiction,
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λ„€, μ €λŠ” 역사 μ†Œμ„€μ„ μ’‹μ•„ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:49
that's actually my favorite genre.
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사싀 μ œκ°€ κ°€μž₯ μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” μž₯λ₯΄μ΄κΈ°λ„ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:51
You were talking about different chapters,
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당신은 λ‹€λ₯Έ μž₯
20:53
and the length of each chapter.
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κ³Ό 각 μž₯의 길이에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
20:55
And how long,
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그리고
20:56
like as I understand for beginners,
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λ‚΄κ°€ 초보자λ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄ μ΄ν•΄ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ
20:59
usually the chapters are shorter, right?
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일반적으둜 챕터가 더 μ§§μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:01
- We have a different set of criteria for the beginner books
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- 예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄ μ΄ˆκΈ‰ λ„μ„œμ™€
21:04
to the intermediate books, for example.
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쀑급 λ„μ„œμ˜ 기쀀이 λ‹€λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:07
And to be clear, when I say for beginners,
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그리고 λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦¬μžλ©΄ μ œκ°€ 초보자용이라고 말할 λ•Œ
21:08
the level is actually not complete beginner,
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λ ˆλ²¨μ€ 사싀 μ™„μ „ν•œ μ΄ˆλ³΄μžκ°€ μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ
21:10
it's high beginners, kind of A2 level.
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높은 초보자, μΌμ’…μ˜ A2 λ ˆλ²¨μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:14
So I don't remember exactly the number
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ λ‚˜λŠ”
21:17
that we put on the length of each chapter.
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ 각 μž₯의 길이에 뢙인 숫자λ₯Ό μ •ν™•νžˆ κΈ°μ–΅ν•˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:20
But it's essentially like six pages,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 본질적으둜 6νŽ˜μ΄μ§€μ™€ κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:22
so like that's the length of a page,
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21:24
you can see here.
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μ—¬κΈ°μ—μ„œ λ³Ό 수 μžˆλ“―μ΄ νŽ˜μ΄μ§€ κΈΈμ΄μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:26
And there'd be one, two, three, four, five,
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그리고 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
21:32
and a half pages. - Okay, yeah.
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그리고 반 νŽ˜μ΄μ§€κ°€ μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. - 그래, 그래.
21:34
So what I want to do is give you the feeling of momentum.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ œκ°€ ν•˜κ³  싢은 것은 μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„μ—κ²Œ 좔진λ ₯을 μ£ΌλŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:38
I want you to feel like you're reading something,
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λ‚˜λŠ” 당신이 무언가λ₯Ό 읽고 μžˆλŠ” κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ 느끼기λ₯Ό μ›ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
21:40
yes, you have to push, you have to struggle,
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예, λ°€μ–΄λΆ™μ—¬μ•Ό ν•˜κ³ , 고생해야 ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ,
21:43
but then you reach the end of that chapter
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κ·Έ μž₯의 끝에 λ„λ‹¬ν•˜λ©΄ '
21:45
and you feel, yes, I've reached the end!
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예, λκΉŒμ§€ λ„λ‹¬ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€!
21:47
That's motivating.
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그것은 동기 λΆ€μ—¬μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:49
So then you can take a break, or if you want,
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그런 λ‹€μŒ νœ΄μ‹μ„ μ·¨ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜ μ›ν•˜λŠ” 경우
21:51
you can carry on and do the next chapter,
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λ‹€μŒ μž₯을 계속할 수
21:53
and each time you're building this feeling of momentum.
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있으며 맀번 μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 좔진λ ₯을 ꡬ좕할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
21:57
And these things, these structural things,
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그리고 μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ 것, μ΄λŸ¬ν•œ ꡬ쑰적인 것듀은
22:00
are so important for the experience of the reader
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λ…μž
22:05
and the student and the experience of feeling motivated.
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와 ν•™μƒμ˜ κ²½ν—˜κ³Ό 동기 λΆ€μ—¬λ₯Ό λŠλΌλŠ” κ²½ν—˜μ— 맀우 μ€‘μš”ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:08
- Yeah, I agree with you, I completely agree with you.
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-λ„€, λ™μ˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ™„μ „νžˆ λ™μ˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:10
Because every single time you read a book with,
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μ™œλƒλ©΄ 당신이 책을 읽을 λ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€,
22:15
okay, maybe if you like genuinely
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μ’‹μ•„, μ•„λ§ˆ 당신이 이
22:16
really, really like this book, it doesn't really matter,
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책을 μ§„μ‹¬μœΌλ‘œ 정말 μ’‹μ•„ν•œλ‹€λ©΄ 그건 λ³„λ‘œ μ€‘μš”ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ§€λ§Œ
22:18
but usually if the chapters are extremely long,
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보톡 챕터가 λ„ˆλ¬΄ κΈΈλ©΄
22:22
you're like, oh my God, I just wanna finish this chapter!
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당신은 이런 생각을 ν•˜κ²Œ 될 κ²λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλƒ₯ 이 μž₯을 끝내고 μ‹Άμ–΄! 챕터가 짧을
22:24
It really helps when the chapters are shorter.
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λ•Œ 정말 도움이 λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
22:27
You enjoy the book more.
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당신은 책을 더 즐길 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:29
- There's a lot more graded readers coming out now
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- ν˜„μž¬ 더 λ§Žμ€ 등급별 λ…μžκ°€ λ‚˜μ˜€κ³ 
22:31
and you can just tell
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있으며
22:33
they haven't really been thought through that well,
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22:34
because it could be like one page long.
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ν•œ νŽ˜μ΄μ§€ 길이일 수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 그듀이 κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ 잘 μƒκ°ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜λ‹€κ³  말할 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:37
And it just doesn't feel like
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그리고
22:39
you are actually reading a real book.
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μ‹€μ œ 책을 읽고 μžˆλŠ” κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ λŠκ»΄μ§€μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:42
With my books I want you to feel like
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λ‚΄ 책을 톡해 λ‚˜λŠ”
22:44
you are actually reading a book,
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당신이 μ‹€μ œλ‘œ 책을 읽고 μžˆλŠ” κ²ƒμ²˜λŸΌ 느끼기λ₯Ό μ›ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:45
and not some silly study tool, but an actual book.
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어리석은 ν•™μŠ΅ 도ꡬ가 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ μ‹€μ œ μ±…μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:48
- And how many languages are there
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-
22:50
in your graded reader series?
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등급이 맀겨진 λ…μž μ‹œλ¦¬μ¦ˆμ—λŠ” μ–Όλ§ˆλ‚˜ λ§Žμ€ μ–Έμ–΄κ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
22:52
- Oh, I've actually lost count.
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- μ•„, 사싀 카운트λ₯Ό λ†“μ³€μ–΄μš”.
22:53
I think it's something like 15, 16,
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제 μƒκ°μ—λŠ” 15, 16κ³Ό 같은 것이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:58
and then we have intermediate.
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그리고 μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 쀑간값을 κ°€μ§‘λ‹ˆλ‹€.
22:59
Actually, it might be 20 now, I'm not sure, I lose count.
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사싀, μ§€κΈˆμ€ 20일지도 λͺ¨λ¦…λ‹ˆλ‹€. ν™•μ‹€ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
23:02
And we're releasing Japanese and Irish
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그리고 μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ•žμœΌλ‘œ λͺ‡ 달 μ•ˆμ— 일본어와 μ•„μΌλžœλ“œμ–΄λ₯Ό μΆœμ‹œν•  μ˜ˆμ •
23:06
in the next few months,
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23:08
and I think we have like eight more languages
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이며
23:10
planned for the next couple of years.
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μ•žμœΌλ‘œ λͺ‡ λ…„ λ™μ•ˆ 8개 μ •λ„μ˜ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό 더 κ³„νšν•˜κ³  μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
23:14
So the books have been very, very successful,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ κ·Έ 책듀은 μ•„μ£Ό μ•„μ£Ό μ„±κ³΅μ μ΄μ—ˆκ³ 
23:17
even the publishers have been delighted with what it's done.
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심지어 μΆœνŒμ—…μžλ“€λ„ κ·Έ 책이 μ™„μ„±λœ 것에 κΈ°λ»ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
23:21
And so, one of my aims is to help people
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 제 λͺ©ν‘œ 쀑 ν•˜λ‚˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ κ°€λŠ₯ν•œ
23:27
learning as many different languages as possible.
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ν•œ λ§Žμ€ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μš°λ„λ‘ λ•λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
23:29
So I want to do some Asian languages,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” μ•„μ‹œμ•„ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άκ³ ,
23:32
I want to do some African languages.
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아프리카 μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
23:33
For me, it's not good enough to stop at French and Spanish
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μ €μ—κ²ŒλŠ” ν”„λž‘μŠ€μ–΄, μŠ€νŽ˜μΈμ–΄
23:36
and all the typical languages.
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및 λͺ¨λ“  일반적인 μ–Έμ–΄μ—μ„œ λ©ˆμΆ”λŠ” κ²ƒλ§ŒμœΌλ‘œλŠ” μΆ©λΆ„ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
23:38
I wanna do books in Hindi and Greek and Swahili.
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νžŒλ””μ–΄, κ·Έλ¦¬μŠ€μ–΄, μŠ€μ™€νžλ¦¬μ–΄λ‘œ 책을 λ§Œλ“€κ³  μ‹Άμ–΄μš” .
23:44
But yeah, there are these
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ„€, 이런
23:46
kind of commercial considerations as well,
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μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ 상업적 κ³ λ € 사항도 μžˆμœΌλ―€λ‘œ
23:48
so we have to think.
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생각해야 ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
23:50
Okay, we spent a year making this one book,
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μ’‹μ•„, μš°λ¦¬λŠ” 이 ν•œ ꢌ의 책을 λ§Œλ“œλŠ” 데 1년을 λ³΄λƒˆμ§€
23:53
but if it doesn't sell, then, you know,
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만, 그것이 νŒ”λ¦¬μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€λ©΄,
23:55
it's a bit of a problem! (laughs)
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그건 μ’€ λ¬Έμ œμ•Ό! (μ›ƒμŒ)
23:57
- So in your series,
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- 그럼 λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ μ‹œλ¦¬μ¦ˆμ—λŠ”
23:58
you have all the different levels from beginner to advanced,
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μ΄ˆκΈ‰λΆ€ν„° κ³ κΈ‰κΉŒμ§€ 레벨이 λ‹€ λ‹€λ₯Έ κ±΄κ°€μš”,
24:01
or only from beginner to intermediate?
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μ•„λ‹ˆλ©΄ μ΄ˆκΈ‰μ—μ„œ μ€‘κΈ‰κΉŒμ§€λ§Œ μžˆλŠ” κ±΄κ°€μš”?
24:03
- So we have beginner to intermediate and the reason is
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- κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μš°λ¦¬λŠ” μ΄ˆκΈ‰μ—μ„œ μ€‘κΈ‰κΉŒμ§€ 있고 κ·Έ μ΄μœ λŠ”
24:05
if you consider yourself advanced in English,
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당신이
24:08
which we can say B2,
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B2라고 말할 수 μžˆλŠ” μ˜μ–΄μ—μ„œ μžμ‹ μ„ 고급이라고 μƒκ°ν•œλ‹€λ©΄,
24:10
if you're a strong B2,
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당신이 κ°•ν•œ B2라면
24:13
then what do you need to do at that point?
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κ·Έ μ‹œμ μ—μ„œ 무엇을 ν•΄μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
24:15
- Yeah, you just need to read.
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- λ„€, 읽기만 ν•˜λ©΄ λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
24:16
And the original English. - It's real English, right?
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그리고 μ›λž˜ μ˜μ–΄. - μ§„μ§œ μ˜μ–΄μ£ ?
24:18
- Yeah, real English. - Yeah, exactly.
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- 그래, μ§„μ§œ μ˜μ–΄. - 예 λ°”λ‘œ κ·Έ κ±°μ˜ˆμš”.
24:19
So I want to kind of encourage people
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄
24:22
to make the leap to real books at that point.
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κ·Έ μ‹œμ μ—μ„œ μ‹€μ œ μ±…μœΌλ‘œ λ„μ•½ν•˜λ„λ‘ κ²©λ €ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
24:26
But actually, funnily enough,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 사싀, μš°μŠ€κ½μŠ€λŸ½κ²Œλ„
24:28
a lot of people have been asking me for advanced stories,
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λ§Žμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 제게 κ³ κΈ‰ μŠ€ν† λ¦¬λ₯Ό μš”μ²­ν•΄μ™”κ³ ,
24:31
and maybe it's because
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μ–΄μ©Œλ©΄ μžμ‹ μ„ 쑰금 밀어뢙이고 μ‹Άμ–΄ν•˜λŠ”
24:32
you have people at the intermediate level
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쀑급 μˆ˜μ€€μ˜ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 있기 λ•Œλ¬ΈμΌ μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
24:33
who just want to push themselves a little bit.
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.
24:36
So I think it would actually be useful,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 그것이 μ‹€μ œλ‘œ μœ μš©ν•  것이라고 μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
24:39
it would be useful to do.
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κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ ν•˜λŠ” 것이 μœ μš©ν•  κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
24:41
It's not currently a plan, the plan to,
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ν˜„μž¬ κ³„νšμ€ μ•„λ‹ˆμ§€λ§Œ ν•˜κ³ 
24:45
but I would like to,
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μ‹Άμ§€λ§Œ
24:48
but yeah, nothing just yet.
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아직은 아무것도 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
24:50
- If I talk about myself, for example,
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-예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄ λ‚˜ μžμ‹ μ— λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜λ©΄
24:52
I think I read a lot of intermediate books,
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24:55
like for intermediate students when I read graded readers.
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쀑급 λ…μžλ₯Ό 읽을 λ•Œ μ€‘κΈ‰μžμ²˜λŸΌ 쀑급 책을 많이 읽은 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
24:59
This was, I think for me,
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이것은 제 생각에
25:01
was like the most popular level
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κ°€μž₯ μΈκΈ°μžˆλŠ” μˆ˜μ€€κ³Ό κ°™μ•˜κ³ 
25:03
and then I think once I was upper intermediate
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μ€‘μƒκΈ‰μ΄λ˜μž
25:06
I just stopped and I started reading real literature,
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λ‚˜λŠ”
25:09
in English for English speakers.
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μ˜μ–΄ μ‚¬μš©μžλ₯Ό μœ„ν•΄ μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ 된 μ‹€μ œ 문학을 읽기 μ‹œμž‘ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
25:12
- Because then you can choose the best stuff as well.
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- 그러면 졜고의 물건도 선택할 수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
25:15
You go and read the best books
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κ°€μ„œ κ°€μž₯ 관심 μžˆλŠ” 졜고의 책을 μ½μœΌμ„Έμš”
25:17
that you're most interested in.
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.
25:18
- Yeah, yeah.
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- 예, 예.
25:19
- Ultimately, when we are reading,
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- ꢁ극적으둜, μš°λ¦¬κ°€
25:21
or doing anything in a language,
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μ–Έμ–΄λ‘œ 글을 μ½κ±°λ‚˜ 무언가λ₯Ό ν•  λ•Œ,
25:23
what we really want to try to do
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ •λ§λ‘œ ν•˜λ €κ³  ν•˜λŠ” 것은
25:25
is we wanna know where where we're trying to go.
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μš°λ¦¬κ°€ κ°€λ €κ³  ν•˜λŠ” 곳이 어디인지 μ•Œκ³  μ‹Άμ–΄ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
25:29
And so the where we're trying to get to
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μš°λ¦¬κ°€ μ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μš°λ©΄μ„œ λ„λ‹¬ν•˜λ €κ³  ν•˜λŠ” 곳은
25:32
with learning a language,
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25:34
to be able to behave like a native speaker in that language.
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κ·Έ μ–Έμ–΄μ˜ μ›μ–΄λ―Όμ²˜λŸΌ 행동할 수 μžˆλŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
25:38
So in other words, if I get you to read in English now,
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즉, μ§€κΈˆ μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ 읽으라고 ν•˜λ©΄ 원어민
25:44
I want you to keep reading
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25:46
until you start to read like a native English speaker.
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처럼 읽을 수 μžˆμ„ λ•ŒκΉŒμ§€ 계속 μ½μœΌμ‹œκΈ° λ°”λžλ‹ˆλ‹€ .
25:49
- Yeah, I love graded readers myself
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- λ„€, μ € μžμ‹ λ„ 등급별 λ…μžλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„
25:51
and I, like on my channel,
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ν•˜κ³  제 μ±„λ„μ—μ„œ μ œκ°€ μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ 읽기에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•˜λŠ”
25:53
I have I think like a couple of videos
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λͺ‡ 개의 λΉ„λ””μ˜€μ²˜λŸΌ μƒκ°ν•˜κ³ 
25:54
where I talk about reading in English
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25:56
and I always talk about graded readers
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μ €λŠ” 이런 μ’…λ₯˜μ˜ μ—΄λ ¬ν•œ 팬이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 항상 등급별 λ…μžμ— λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
25:59
because I'm a huge fan of this kind of literature.
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λ¬Έν•™.
26:03
- Well I'm gonna send you some of mine in the-
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- 음, λ‚΄ 것을 λ„ˆμ—κ²Œ λ³΄λ‚΄μ€„κ»˜-
26:05
- Yeah, that's gonna be so cool!
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- 그래, 정말 λ©‹μ§ˆκ±°μ•Ό!
26:08
Like, I love books, so yeah,
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예λ₯Ό λ“€μ–΄, λ‚˜λŠ” 책을 μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λ―€λ‘œ 예,
26:11
it's gonna be really interesting for me.
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그것은 λ‚˜μ—κ²Œ 정말 ν₯미둜울 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:12
- With your English,
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- λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ,
26:13
it's no coincidence that your English is as good as it is
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λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ μ˜μ–΄κ°€ 그만큼 μ’‹κ³ 
26:17
and you like reading.
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λ…μ„œλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” 것은 μš°μ—°μ΄ μ•„λ‹™λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:18
I always say to people like, among your friends,
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λ‚˜λŠ” 항상 μΉœκ΅¬λ“€κ³Ό 같은 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ
26:22
think about the smartest person you know.
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당신이 μ•„λŠ” κ°€μž₯ λ˜‘λ˜‘ν•œ μ‚¬λžŒμ— λŒ€ν•΄ μƒκ°ν•˜λΌκ³  λ§ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:25
I guarantee you that person reads a lot.
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κ·Έ μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ 많이 μ½λŠ”λ‹€κ³  μž₯λ‹΄ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:28
So it's very predictable really.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 정말 예츑 κ°€λŠ₯ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:31
- Yeah, that's probably why.
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- 그래, μ•„λ§ˆ κ·Έλž˜μ„œμΌκ±°μ•Ό.
26:32
- No surprise to me that you're a big reader.
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- 당신이 λ…μ„œκ΄‘μ΄λΌλŠ” 사싀이 λ†€λžμ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:34
- Yeah, that's probably why I like reading,
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- 그래, 그게 λ‚΄κ°€ λ…μ„œλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” μ΄μœ μΌκ±°μ•Ό,
26:35
I wanna be smart, you know?
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λ˜‘λ˜‘ν•΄μ§€κ³  μ‹Άμ–΄, μ•Œμ§€?
26:37
- There you go.
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- 됐어.
26:38
- Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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- λ„€, λ„€, μ‚¬μ‹€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:40
And I think to finish off our interview
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그리고 인터뷰λ₯Ό λ§ˆμΉ˜λ©΄μ„œ
26:42
I just wanted to ask you this one last question.
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λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰ 질문 ν•˜λ‚˜λ§Œ λ“œλ¦¬κ³  μ‹Άμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:45
Maybe you could, I don't know,
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μž˜μ€ λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μ§€λ§Œ μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ 더 μ„±κ³΅μ μœΌλ‘œ 읽을 수 μžˆλŠ” 방법에 λŒ€ν•œ
26:47
share some tips with my audience
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λͺ‡ 가지 μš”λ Ήμ„ 청쀑과 κ³΅μœ ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜ λ…μ„œμ™€
26:49
on how they can read more successfully in English
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26:52
or maybe even fall in love with reading,
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μ‚¬λž‘μ— 빠질 μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:54
because I feel like a lot of people really struggle
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26:56
with the fact that they just don't like reading.
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읽기λ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
26:59
- It is true that there are people
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27:00
that are not used to reading,
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27:01
more and more now that we have smartphones
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슀마트폰
27:04
and the internet and everything.
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, 인터넷 λ“± λͺ¨λ“  것이 μžˆλŠ” μ§€κΈˆ, λ…μ„œμ— μ΅μˆ™ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šμ€ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 점점 더 λ§Žμ•„μ§€λŠ” 것은 μ‚¬μ‹€μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. λ…μ„œκ°€ κ°€μž₯ μœ μ΅ν•œ
27:05
I could keep saying how, you know,
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방법이라고 계속 말할 수 μžˆμ§€λ§Œ
27:07
reading is the most beneficial thing,
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27:08
but if you don't like reading, then you don't like reading.
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λ…μ„œλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€λ©΄ λ…μ„œλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:11
I think for some,
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제 μƒκ°μ—λŠ”
27:12
if people genuinely don't like reading,
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μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ μ§„μ •μœΌλ‘œ λ…μ„œλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ”λ‹€λ©΄ κ·Έ
27:14
then maybe the best thing to do instead
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λŒ€μ‹  ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” μ΅œμ„ μ˜ 방법은
27:16
is listen to podcasts, watch TV.
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팟캐슀트λ₯Ό λ“£κ³  TVλ₯Ό λ³΄λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:18
I don't think that StoryLearning as I call it,
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μ €λŠ” μ œκ°€ λ§ν•˜λŠ” StoryLearning이
27:22
with how I teach it, is for everybody at all,
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λͺ¨λ“  μ‚¬λžŒμ„ μœ„ν•œ 것이라고 μƒκ°ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:25
but I do think that if you can learn to love reading,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 읽기λ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜λŠ” 법을 배울 수 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
27:28
then you have a huge advantage.
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큰 이점이 μžˆλ‹€κ³  μƒκ°ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:31
And the key is, we talked earlier about those two things,
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핡심은 이전에 이 두 가지에 λŒ€ν•΄ μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°ν•œ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:35
comprehensible input, compelling input.
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μ΄ν•΄ν•˜κΈ° μ‰¬μš΄ μž…λ ₯κ³Ό κ°•λ ₯ν•œ μž…λ ₯μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:37
These are the things to do.
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이것이 ν•  μΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:38
So you've got to find material at your level
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λ”°λΌμ„œ μžμ‹ μ˜ μˆ˜μ€€μ— λ§žλŠ” 자료λ₯Ό 찾은
27:43
and then find material that is at your level
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λ‹€μŒ μžμ‹  의 μˆ˜μ€€μ— 맞고
27:46
and really, really interesting to you.
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정말 정말 ν₯미둜운 자료λ₯Ό μ°Ύμ•„μ•Ό ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:48
And if you can find those things,
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그리고 그런 것듀을 찾을 수 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
27:50
then that's how you get interested.
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그것이 λ°”λ‘œ 당신이 관심을 κ°–λŠ” λ°©μ‹μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:53
Because you might love watching Netflix
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Netflixλ₯Ό λ³΄κ±°λ‚˜
27:55
or listening to podcasts.
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팟캐슀트λ₯Ό λ“£λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•  수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
27:57
You can't get the experience of reading a book
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28:00
anywhere else that's not in a book.
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책이 μ•„λ‹Œ λ‹€λ₯Έ κ³³μ—μ„œλŠ” 책을 μ½λŠ” κ²½ν—˜μ„ 얻을 수 μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
28:03
Reading books like are unique.
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같은 책을 μ½λŠ” 것은 λ…νŠΉν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
28:05
I would say think about the things
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λ‚˜λŠ” 당신이 λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ λͺ¨κ΅­μ–΄λ‘œ μ½λŠ” 것을 μ¦κΈ°λŠ” 것에 λŒ€ν•΄ 생각해 보라고 λ§ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
28:06
that you enjoy reading in your mother tongue.
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.
28:11
Do you like reading football magazines?
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당신은 좕ꡬ μž‘μ§€λ₯Ό μ½λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•©λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
28:15
Do you like reading the news?
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당신은 λ‰΄μŠ€λ₯Ό μ½λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•©λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
28:17
Think about what you would read
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28:18
and most enjoy in your mother tongue
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λͺ¨κ΅­μ–΄λ‘œ 무엇을 읽고 κ°€μž₯ 즐길 것인지 생각해보고
28:20
and then try to do the same thing in English.
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μ˜μ–΄λ‘œ λ˜‘κ°™μ΄ ν•΄λ³΄μ„Έμš”.
28:24
At least then you'll be really interested.
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적어도 당신은 정말 κ΄€μ‹¬μ΄μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
28:28
And if you're really interested,
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그리고 μ •λ§λ‘œ 관심이 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
28:30
you stand the best chance of continuing,
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κ³„μ†ν•˜κ³ , μœ μ§€ν•˜κ³ , 배울 수 μžˆλŠ” κ°€μž₯ 쒋은 κΈ°νšŒκ°€ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
28:34
keeping it up, and learning.
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.
28:37
- When people read,
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- μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ€ 책을 읽을 λ•Œ
28:38
they often like come across words that they don't know,
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μ’…μ’…
28:41
like new vocabulary.
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μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ λ‹¨μ–΄μ²˜λŸΌ λͺ¨λ₯΄λŠ” 단어가 λ‚˜μ˜€λŠ” 것을 μ’‹μ•„ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
28:42
Do you have any recommendations
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28:44
on how they can memorize new vocabulary?
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그듀이 μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ μ–΄νœ˜λ₯Ό μ•”κΈ°ν•  수 μžˆλŠ” 방법에 λŒ€ν•œ ꢌμž₯ 사항이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ?
28:46
- I would suggest that actually the best thing to do
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- 사싀 κ°€μž₯ 쒋은 것은
28:50
is not to try to memorize new vocabulary.
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μƒˆλ‘œμš΄ 단어λ₯Ό μ™Έμš°λ €κ³  ν•˜μ§€ μ•ŠλŠ” 것이라고 λ§ν•˜κ³  μ‹ΆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
28:53
- Huh, interesting!
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-ν₯, μž¬λ―Έμžˆλ‹€!
28:55
Because, if the goal is to read,
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λͺ©ν‘œκ°€ μ½λŠ” 것이라면,
29:04
and if we believe that the way you're going to learn fast
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그리고 빨리 λ°°μš°λŠ” 방법이
29:07
is by reading often,
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자주 μ½λŠ” 것이라고 λ―ΏλŠ”λ‹€λ©΄
29:11
then we've got to focus on the habit of reading often.
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자주 μ½λŠ” μŠ΅κ΄€μ— 집쀑해야 ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
29:17
Now if there's one thing
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이제
29:18
that's gonna stop you reading a lot
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당신이 많이 μ½λŠ” 것을 λ©ˆμΆ”κ²Œ ν•  ν•œ 가지가 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
29:21
it is looking up words, memorizing words.
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그것은 단어λ₯Ό μ°Ύκ³  단어λ₯Ό μ•”κΈ°ν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
29:24
'Cause as soon as you start doing that,
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μ™œλƒλ©΄ 당신이 그것을 μ‹œμž‘ν•˜μžλ§ˆμž
29:26
you're doing something else now, you're not reading,
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당신은 μ§€κΈˆ λ‹€λ₯Έ 일을 ν•˜κ³  있고 , 당신은 책을 μ½λŠ” 것이 μ•„λ‹ˆλΌ κΈ°μ–΅λ ₯ κ²Œμž„μ„
29:28
you're doing playing memory games, you know?
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ν•˜κ³  있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
29:31
So you could read for 30 minutes easily
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λ”°λΌμ„œ 30λΆ„ λ™μ•ˆ μ‰½κ²Œ 읽고
29:34
and then spend another 30 minutes
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29:36
memorizing vocabulary from the book.
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μ±…μ—μ„œ μ–΄νœ˜λ₯Ό μ•”κΈ°ν•˜λŠ” 데 또 λ‹€λ₯Έ 30뢄을 보낼 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
29:40
In my opinion, what's much better is to actually,
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제 μƒκ°μ—λŠ” μ‹€μ œλ‘œ
29:44
rather than spending 30 minutes memorizing vocabulary,
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30λΆ„ λ™μ•ˆ 단어λ₯Ό μ•”κΈ°ν•˜λŠ” 것보닀
29:47
spend that 30 minutes on reading even more.
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κ·Έ 30뢄을 더 많이 μ½λŠ” 데 μ‚¬μš©ν•˜λŠ” 것이 훨씬 더 쒋은 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
29:49
And there've been many studies that have shown
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그리고
29:51
that if you have people who just read
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읽기만 ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒκ³Ό 읽고
29:57
versus read and memorize, or just memorize,
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μ•”κΈ°ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒ, λ˜λŠ” κ·Έλƒ₯ μ•”κΈ°ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ μžˆλ‹€λ©΄,
30:02
the people who just read, they win every time.
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읽기만 ν•˜λŠ” μ‚¬λžŒμ΄ 맀번 μŠΉλ¦¬ν•œλ‹€λŠ” 것을 λ³΄μ—¬μ£ΌλŠ” λ§Žμ€ 연ꡬ가 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
30:05
They remember more vocabulary, their grammar is better.
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그듀은 더 λ§Žμ€ μ–΄νœ˜λ₯Ό κΈ°μ–΅ν•˜κ³  문법이 더 μ’‹μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
30:09
And the reason is that you learn naturally,
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κ·Έ μ΄μœ λŠ” 당신이 μžμ—°μŠ€λŸ½κ²Œ 배우고,
30:11
your brain learns stuff naturally.
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λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ λ‘λ‡Œκ°€ μžμ—°μŠ€λŸ½κ²Œ 무언가λ₯Ό 배우기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
30:13
If you keep reading, that word that you want to memorize,
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계속 읽으면 μ™Έμš°κ³  싢은 κ·Έ 단어가 κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ
30:18
it will come up again and again
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λ– μ˜€λ₯Ό κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
30:20
and again and again and again.
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.
30:22
And when you see it in the story or in context,
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그리고 μ΄μ•ΌκΈ°λ‚˜ λ¬Έλ§₯μ—μ„œ 그것을 λ³Ό λ•Œ,
30:25
you start to get an intuitive understanding
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30:27
of what that word means.
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κ·Έ 단어가 μ˜λ―Έν•˜λŠ” λ°”λ₯Ό μ§κ΄€μ μœΌλ‘œ μ΄ν•΄ν•˜κΈ° μ‹œμž‘ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
30:31
So what I always suggest to people
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ œκ°€ 항상 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ—κ²Œ μ œμ•ˆν•˜λŠ”
30:33
is the best way to learn and memorize a word
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것은 단어λ₯Ό 배우고 μ•”κΈ°ν•˜λŠ” κ°€μž₯ 쒋은 방법은
30:37
is to keep reading and seeing that word over and over again.
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κ·Έ 단어λ₯Ό κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ 읽고 또 λ³΄λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. κ·Έλ ‡κ²Œ
30:41
And if you don't, and people say,
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ν•˜μ§€ μ•Šκ³  μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ λ§ν•˜κΈΈ,
30:42
well what happens if the word doesn't come back?
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단어가 λŒμ•„μ˜€μ§€ μ•ŠμœΌλ©΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ κΉŒμš”?
30:46
You will never lose this word.
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30:46
If the word doesn't come back, well guess what?
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이 단어λ₯Ό μ ˆλŒ€ μžƒμ§€ μ•Šμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
단어가 λŒμ•„μ˜€μ§€ μ•ŠμœΌλ©΄ μ–΄λ–»κ²Œ λ κΉŒμš”?
30:49
It's probably not a very important word.
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λ³„λ‘œ μ€‘μš”ν•œ 단어가 아닐 μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
30:51
- Yeah, I completely agree with you,
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- λ„€, μ „μ μœΌλ‘œ λ™μ˜ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
30:52
because this is something that I had when I was younger.
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μ™œλƒν•˜λ©΄ 이것은 μ œκ°€ 어렸을 λ•Œ κ°€μ‘Œλ˜ 것이기 λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
30:55
So I used to have this like really big notebook
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ €λŠ” 이것을 μ œκ°€ λͺ¨λ₯΄λŠ” λͺ¨λ“  단어λ₯Ό μ λŠ” 정말 큰 κ³΅μ±…μ²˜λŸΌ 가지고 μžˆμ—ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
30:58
where I would write every single word that I didn't know.
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.
31:01
And I think like a couple of, maybe like a year ago,
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그리고 λͺ‡ λ…„ μ „μ―€, μ•„λ§ˆλ„ 1λ…„ 전쯀에 λΆ€λͺ¨λ‹˜ μ§‘μ—μ„œ
31:04
I found this notebook at my parents' house.
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이 곡책을 λ°œκ²¬ν•œ 것 κ°™μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€ .
31:08
I opened it and I just realized that I know,
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λ‚˜λŠ” 그것을 μ—΄μ—ˆκ³  μ§€κΈˆμ²˜λŸΌ λ‚΄κ°€ μ•Œκ³  μžˆλ‹€λŠ” 것을 κΉ¨λ‹¬μ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
31:11
like right now, obviously I know all of these words,
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λΆ„λͺ…νžˆ λ‚˜λŠ”μ΄ λͺ¨λ“  단어λ₯Ό μ•Œκ³ 
31:14
but I didn't learn them.
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μžˆμ§€λ§Œ λ°°μš°μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
31:16
I just wrote them down, yeah, I didn't memorize them.
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κ·Έλƒ₯ μ μ–΄λ’€μ–΄μš”, λ„€, μ™Έμš°μ§€ μ•Šμ•˜μ–΄μš”. 방금
31:19
I just wrote them down and then I forgot about them.
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적어두고 μžŠμ–΄ λ²„λ ΈμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
31:21
But there were also some words
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ
31:23
they were just like, so weird,
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κ·Έλƒ₯, λ„ˆλ¬΄ μ΄μƒν•΄μ„œ,
31:25
like why would I even wanna learn them?
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λ‚΄κ°€ μ™œ 배우고 μ‹Άμ„κΉŒ? 같은 단어도 μžˆμ—ˆμ–΄μš”.
31:26
Yeah, they were too formal, maybe like outdated.
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λ„€, λ„ˆλ¬΄ 격식을 μ°¨λ Έμ–΄μš”. μ–΄μ©Œλ©΄ μ‹œλŒ€μ— 뒀떨어진 것 κ°™μ•˜μ–΄μš”.
31:30
- But you can see all these words and you say,
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- ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ 당신은 이 λͺ¨λ“  단어듀을 λ³Ό 수 있고 당신은 '
31:31
okay, I don't know that word therefore I should learn it.
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μ’‹μ•„, λ‚˜λŠ” κ·Έ 단어λ₯Ό λͺ¨λ₯΄κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 그것을 λ°°μ›Œμ•Ό ν•œλ‹€'κ³  λ§ν•œλ‹€.
31:35
Not true.
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사싀이 μ•„λ‹ˆλ‹€.
31:36
If you're reading Harry Potter
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해리포터λ₯Ό 읽고
31:37
and you're reading about Hogwarts,
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있고 ν˜Έκ·Έμ™€νŠΈμ— λŒ€ν•΄ 읽고 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄
31:38
why do you have to learn the word Hogwarts,
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μ™œ
31:40
even though you don't need it?
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ν•„μš”ν•˜μ§€λ„ μ•Šμ€λ° ν˜Έκ·Έμ™€νŠΈλΌλŠ” 단어λ₯Ό λ°°μ›Œμ•Ό ν•˜λŠ”κ°€?
31:42
And so, to the untrained eye,
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ ν›ˆλ ¨λ°›μ§€ μ•Šμ€ λˆˆμ—λŠ”
31:46
every word looks like an important word
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λͺ¨λ“  단어가 μ•”κΈ°ν•΄μ•Ό ν•  μ€‘μš”ν•œ λ‹¨μ–΄μ²˜λŸΌ λ³΄μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
31:48
that needs to be memorized.
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.
31:49
But just like we said earlier,
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κ·ΈλŸ¬λ‚˜ μ•žμ„œ λ§ν–ˆλ“―μ΄ 단어가 ν•™μŠ΅ν•  κ°€μΉ˜κ°€ μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ—¬λΆ€λ₯Ό
31:51
the best way to know whether a word is worth learning
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μ•Œ 수 μžˆλŠ” κ°€μž₯ 쒋은 방법은 단어가
31:56
is if it comes up again and again
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31:58
and again and again in your reading.
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읽을 λ•Œ κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ λ°˜λ³΅ν•΄μ„œ λ‚˜μ˜€λŠ”μ§€ ν™•μΈν•˜λŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:02
And if that word comes up again and, and again, and again,
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그리고 κ·Έ 단어가 κ³„μ†ν•΄μ„œ λ‚˜μ˜€λ©΄
32:06
guess what, you're gonna learn it naturally.
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μžμ—°μŠ€λŸ½κ²Œ 배울 수 μžˆμ„ κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:09
So you don't need to memorize it.
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λ”°λΌμ„œ μ•”κΈ°ν•  ν•„μš”κ°€ μ—†μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:10
Now, I'm being a bit extreme to make the point.
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μ§€κΈˆ, λ‚˜λŠ” μš”μ μ„ λ§Œλ“€κΈ° μœ„ν•΄ μ•½κ°„ κ·Ήλ‹¨μ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:15
Sometimes it probably is helpful
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λ•Œλ•Œλ‘œ
32:17
to memorize something here or there.
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μ—¬κΈ°μ €κΈ°μ„œ 무언가λ₯Ό μ•”κΈ°ν•˜λŠ” 것이 도움이 될 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:19
But the problem is that most people,
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ν•˜μ§€λ§Œ λ¬Έμ œλŠ” λŒ€λΆ€λΆ„μ˜ μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄
32:21
because of the way we've been trained at school,
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ν•™κ΅μ—μ„œ κ΅μœ‘λ°›μ€ 방식 λ•Œλ¬Έμ—
32:24
their default is memorize, memorize, memorize.
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기본적으둜 μ•”κΈ°, μ•”κΈ°, μ•”κΈ°λΌλŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:29
So what I try to do is get people away from that
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ œκ°€ ν•˜λ €κ³  ν•˜λŠ” 것은 μ‚¬λžŒλ“€μ΄ 그것을
32:31
into read, read, read.
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읽고, 읽고, 또 읽도둝 λ§Œλ“œλŠ” κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:34
- Wow, that's a really great tip.
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- μ™€μš°, 정말 쒋은 νŒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:36
Yeah, thank you so much.
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λ„€, 정말 κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:37
It was really fun and interesting talking to you,
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32:40
because I love reading and I could talk about reading
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λ‚˜λŠ” λ…μ„œλ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜κ³ 
32:43
and books and stories all day long.
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ν•˜λ£¨ 쒅일 λ…μ„œμ™€ μ±…κ³Ό 이야기에 λŒ€ν•΄ 이야기 ν•  수 있기 λ•Œλ¬Έμ— 정말 재미 있고 ν₯미둜 μ› μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:46
So thank you so much for being on my channel
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제 채널에 μ˜€μ…”μ„œ μ €
32:50
and agreeing to film this interview with me.
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μ™€μ˜ 인터뷰 μ΄¬μ˜μ— λ™μ˜ν•΄ μ£Όμ…”μ„œ 정말 κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
32:54
And before we finish,
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그리고 끝내기 전에
32:55
could you please tell my audience where they can find you,
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μ‹œμ²­μžμ—κ²Œ YouTube 채널과 같이 μ–΄λ””μ—μ„œ 당신을 찾을 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€ μ•Œλ €μ£Όμ‹œκ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆκΉŒ
32:58
like your YouTube channel?
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?
33:00
- Yeah, so if you're on YouTube now,
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- 예, μ§€κΈˆ YouTube에 μžˆλ‹€λ©΄ Olly Richards인
33:02
go to my YouTube channel,
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제 YouTube μ±„λ„λ‘œ μ΄λ™ν•˜μ—¬
33:04
which is Olly Richards,
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33:05
just search for Olly Richards or StoryLearning in YouTube,
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Olly Richardsλ₯Ό κ²€μƒ‰ν•˜κ±°λ‚˜ YouTubeμ—μ„œ StoryLearning을 κ²€μƒ‰ν•˜λ©΄
33:09
you will find it.
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찾을 수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
33:11
I also have a website called StoryLearning.com
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μ €λŠ” λ˜ν•œ StoryLearning.comμ΄λΌλŠ” μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈλ₯Ό 가지고
33:14
and you can practice your English by reading the articles,
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있으며
33:17
blog articles that we have on the website.
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μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈμ— μžˆλŠ” 기사, λΈ”λ‘œκ·Έ 기사λ₯Ό μ½μœΌλ©΄μ„œ μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό μ—°μŠ΅ν•  수 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
33:19
And if you want to practice reading with graded readers,
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등급이 맀겨진 λ…μžλ“€κ³Ό ν•¨κ»˜ 읽기 μ—°μŠ΅μ„ ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άλ‹€λ©΄ λŸ¬μ‹œμ•„μ—μ„œ
33:22
have lots of books available,
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ꡬ할 수 μžˆλŠ” 책이 많이 μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
33:24
well, in Russia, I don't know where they're available,
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μ–΄λ””μ—μ„œ ꡬ할 수 μžˆλŠ”μ§€λŠ” λͺ¨λ₯΄κ² μ§€λ§Œ
33:26
but I'm sure you can find them somewhere.
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μ–΄λ””μ„ κ°€ 찾을 수 μžˆμ„ 것이라고 ν™•μ‹ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
33:29
- Yeah, my audience is very international,
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- λ„€, 제 청쀑은 맀우 κ΅­μ œμ μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
33:31
so I'm sure they'll be able to find your books.
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κ·Έλž˜μ„œ 그듀이 λ‹Ήμ‹ μ˜ 책을 찾을 수 μžˆμ„ 것이라고 ν™•μ‹ ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€.
33:35
- Fantastic.
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- ν™˜μƒμ μ΄μ•Ό.
33:36
- Yeah, so thank you so much, and have a great day!
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- λ„€, 정말 κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. 쒋은 ν•˜λ£¨ λ˜μ„Έμš”!
33:41
- Same to you!
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- λ‹Ήμ‹  같은!
33:42
(mellow music) - So guys,
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(λΆ€λ“œλŸ¬μš΄ μŒμ•…) - κ·Έλž˜μ„œ μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„,
33:43
it was so interesting for me to film this interview
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μ œκ°€ 이 인터뷰λ₯Ό 촬영
33:45
and to be a part of this interview as well,
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ν•˜κ³  이 인터뷰에 μ°Έμ—¬ν•˜λŠ” 것도 맀우 ν₯λ―Έλ‘œμ› μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ•„μ‹œ λ‹€μ‹œν”Ό
33:47
because as you know,
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33:49
I always share this on Instagram and on YouTube,
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μ €λŠ” 항상 이것을 μΈμŠ€νƒ€κ·Έλž¨κ³Ό μœ νŠœλΈŒμ— κ³΅μœ ν•˜κ³ 
33:52
I love reading!
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읽기λ₯Ό μ’‹μ•„ν•˜κΈ° λ•Œλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€!
33:53
I read almost every single day,
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λ‚˜λŠ” 거의 맀일 책을 읽고
33:55
and I know that it helps me learn English
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그것이 μ˜μ–΄λ₯Ό λ°°μš°λŠ” 데 도움이 되고 μ˜μ–΄ μž‘λ¬Έ μ‹€λ ₯을
33:57
and it also helps me improve my writing skills in English,
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ν–₯μƒμ‹œν‚€λŠ” 데에도 도움이 λœλ‹€λŠ” 것을 μ•Œκ³  μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
34:00
and this is something that I genuinely enjoy doing.
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이것은 μ œκ°€ μ§„μ •μœΌλ‘œ μ¦κΈ°λŠ” μΌμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
34:03
Don't forget to subscribe to my channel
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λ‚΄ 채널을 ꡬ독
34:05
and follow me on Instagram.
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ν•˜κ³  Instagramμ—μ„œ νŒ”λ‘œμš°ν•˜λŠ” 것을 μžŠμ§€ λ§ˆμ„Έμš”.
34:06
If you wanna get a script to this video,
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이 λΉ„λ””μ˜€μ˜ λŒ€λ³Έμ„ λ°›μœΌλ €λ©΄
34:08
make sure to join me here on YouTube
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34:10
by clicking this join button,
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이 κ°€μž… λ²„νŠΌμ„ ν΄λ¦­ν•˜μ—¬ μ—¬κΈ° YouTubeμ—μ„œ 저와 ν•¨κ»˜ ν•˜μ„Έμš”.
34:12
or you can also go on my Patreon page
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λ˜λŠ” 제 Patreon νŽ˜μ΄μ§€λ‘œ μ΄λ™ν•˜μ—¬
34:14
and pick a membership there.
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멀버십을 선택할 μˆ˜λ„ μžˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€. 이번 인터뷰λ₯Ό 봐주신
34:16
Thank you guys so much for watching this interview
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μ—¬λŸ¬λΆ„κ»˜ μ§„μ‹¬μœΌλ‘œ κ°μ‚¬λ“œλ¦¬λ©°
34:18
and I'll see you next time.
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λ‹€μŒμ— 또 λ΅™κ² μŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€.
34:21
Bye guys!
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μ•ˆλ…• μ–˜λ“€ μ•„!
34:22
(mellow music)
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(감미둜운 μŒμ•…)
34:36
(music fades)
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(μŒμ•…μ΄ 희미해짐)
이 μ›Ήμ‚¬μ΄νŠΈ 정보

이 μ‚¬μ΄νŠΈλŠ” μ˜μ–΄ ν•™μŠ΅μ— μœ μš©ν•œ YouTube λ™μ˜μƒμ„ μ†Œκ°œν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ „ 세계 졜고의 μ„ μƒλ‹˜λ“€μ΄ κ°€λ₯΄μΉ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μˆ˜μ—…μ„ 보게 될 κ²ƒμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€. 각 λ™μ˜μƒ νŽ˜μ΄μ§€μ— ν‘œμ‹œλ˜λŠ” μ˜μ–΄ μžλ§‰μ„ 더블 ν΄λ¦­ν•˜λ©΄ κ·Έκ³³μ—μ„œ λ™μ˜μƒμ΄ μž¬μƒλ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. λΉ„λ””μ˜€ μž¬μƒμ— 맞좰 μžλ§‰μ΄ μŠ€ν¬λ‘€λ©λ‹ˆλ‹€. μ˜κ²¬μ΄λ‚˜ μš”μ²­μ΄ μžˆλŠ” 경우 이 문의 양식을 μ‚¬μš©ν•˜μ—¬ λ¬Έμ˜ν•˜μ‹­μ‹œμ˜€.

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