How to Read Faster and Understand More in English | Tips to Improve Your Reading Skills in English

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English with Veronika Mark


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(mellow music) - I always say to people,
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like among your friends,
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think about the smartest person you know.
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I guarantee you that person reads a lot.
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And I felt really stupid,
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'cause I didn't know any other language at all.
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I think the English or the British mentality
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is very much that we are the best.
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- Hello guys, and welcome back to my YouTube channel.
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Today you're gonna be watching
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an interview with Olly Richards.
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He's the creator of this StoryLearning method
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that helped a lot of people learn foreign languages.
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And guys, when I was younger,
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I loved reading graded readers,
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and this is something we're gonna be talking about
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in this interview.
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So make sure to like this video
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and subscribe to my YouTube channel.
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And now, let's begin.
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Hi Olly, it's really nice to meet you
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and I'm really happy to have you on my channel today.
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We're gonna do like a quick interview
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about you and about your StoryLearning method
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that helps millions of people learn foreign languages.
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So at first, could you please just
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introduce yourself a little bit?
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- Thank you so much for the invitation,
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it's great to be here
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and I'm a big fan of your channel as well.
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So my name is Olly Richards, I'm from the UK.
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I have a long background with languages,
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I started learning languages when I was about 19 years old.
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My first language was French,
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which was kind of really hard to learn
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because I didn't know what I was doing.
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In the UK we don't really learn languages
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so I had to just create own method really.
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And then I went on to learn seven more languages after that.
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I've lived in lots of countries around the world.
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But I'm also a language teacher,
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so I taught English for many years.
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I've become a very highly qualified English teacher,
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I taught English in Japan, in the Middle East.
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So what I decided to do was
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to combine my experience of teaching
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with my experience of language learning.
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So what I try to do now
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is to help people learn foreign languages
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and I do that with stories,
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so I've got a unique method that takes stories
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and helps you learn languages through stories.
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Which is great,
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because when you hear something in a story
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it's much easier to remember,
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it's much more fun and it's just good all round.
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- Yeah, I agree.
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And as a person who loves reading,
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because I love reading books and stories
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and different, just everything, I guess,
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Yeah, we'll talk about your method a little bit later.
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But first it's very interesting
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because you just mentioned that in the UK
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people generally don't learn foreign languages.
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Why do you think that is?
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Like, what is the reason?
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- I think that there's kind of an island mentality.
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There's a few reasons,
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we have an island mentality
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whereby we are kind of our own island.
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There's a sea in between us and mainland Europe.
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We also have this long,
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hundreds of years of history of colonization.
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We like to think that we are the country that goes out
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and brings democracy to the rest of the world.
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This kind of mindset that is hundreds of years old
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and it's still in the country today
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and we are just kind of,
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I think the English or the British mentality
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is very much we are the best,
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we are the source of source of truth and all of that.
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And then largely thanks to the presence
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and the growth of the United States,
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where now the way where they make,
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you know, you've got Hollywood
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and you've got American popular music,
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and because of the popularity of that,
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we kind of feel, all right,
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if we want entertainment from other countries,
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we can turn to the US.
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And so it just kind of cements this presence of English
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as the place where anything that matters is happening.
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And so that's why I think English speakers
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just generally don't look to other countries.
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We have so much in the English language world
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that it's kind of enough.
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And it's very sad,
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but I think that's why.
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- It's also very interesting,
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because in a lot of different countries,
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people generally learn
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British English at schools, for example,
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like the government is all for British English.
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And this is something that is happening in Russia right now,
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because I live in Russia,
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and in Moscow we only learn British English at schools.
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All the textbooks are in British English,
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but more and people actually wanna learn American English,
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and yeah, this is something that is happening right now.
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Yeah, and you mentioned, like the influence of Hollywood.
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- I mean, that's also a question of perspective.
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So for example, if you go to,
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many countries around the world
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where the English that they teach is American English.
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So if you go to Japan, for example,
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in Japan, it's very much American English.
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The English exams that you take is the TOEFL test,
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all of those things.
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And I think that's because of the,
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you know, Japan obviously has a long history with the US,
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post-World War II and geographically closer as well.
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So yeah, it seems to be that some countries
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prefer American English, teaching American English,
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some countries prefer teaching British English,
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and yeah, everything else in between.
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- And you mentioned that you started learning French
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when you were 19, right? - Yeah.
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- Why did you decide to learn French?
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- It was very much like, outta the blue.
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So I was at university in London studying jazz piano,
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that was my degree.
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And I'd never had any contact
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with other countries, other languages.
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And then a few things happened.
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I took a job working in a cafe in London,
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serving cappuccinos and things.
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And in that cafe, there were people from all over the world,
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France, Sweden, Spain,
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and I noticed that these people
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could all speak English really well.
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Fair enough, they're in London,
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so you might expect that,
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but often they could speak each other's languages.
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So the Italian could speak Spanish
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and the Swede could speak some French.
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And I felt really stupid,
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'cause I didn't know any other languages at all.
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So I felt like I was just,
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something clicked inside my head and I thought,
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hang on, there is a big world out there
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and I really haven't got a clue about it.
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And I felt bad being the English guy
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who couldn't speak other languages.
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And so I said, right, I'm gonna learn French.
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I'm gonna try.
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And then around the same time,
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my girlfriend at the time broke up with me.
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We'd been together for two years and I was 19,
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so it was a big deal when she broke up with me
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and I was really, really in a mess,
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and I basically ran away.
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I got on a train,
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I bought a one-way ticket on a train to Paris,
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I went to live in Paris for six months.
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And I said, right, this is my new life,
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I'm gonna learn French.
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And so I was really kind of motivated to do it.
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And I think that's, with language learning,
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there are a few things that really matter.
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Motivation is one of those things,
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and I was really motivated.
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- A lot of people tell me that, for example,
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they're really worried that they didn't learn
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any foreign languages then when they were kids,
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when they were younger,
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and they're worried that because of that,
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they will never be able to learn
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to master a foreign language.
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And yeah, you just told everyone that it's not true, right?
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Because motivation is something
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that can really help you learn anything.
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- Well, I mean, I was young though, right?
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In my language company, StoryLearning,
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we have a lot of students and many of them are older.
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You know, they could be in their 60s or 70s
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and they haven't learned a language since high school.
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So it's been like maybe 40, 50 years.
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And it's very common for people to think,
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okay, I'm older, I haven't done this for 40, 50 years,
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it's too late for me.
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But what you find is that when you can motivate people
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with a specific way of learning that they enjoy
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and you try and you take the pressure off,
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then they can do amazing things.
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And one of the problems
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with a lot of modern teaching methods
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is it forces you to speak from the beginning, day one.
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Learn this, now say it front of your class
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and practice with your partner.
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And that puts incredible pressure on people psychologically.
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'Cause when we speak in a foreign language,
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we lose our identity and we are now kind of like,
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we are like adult children,
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we can't express ourselves properly.
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Very difficult from a perspective of social anxiety,
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you know, lots of people get very anxious
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when they have to speak.
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So one of the reasons that I'm such a big fan
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of learning with stories,
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which basically kind of means learning through context,
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through lots of reading and listening,
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is that you don't have to speak at the beginning.
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You can take your time to learn gradually,
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and then speaking can just kind of come later,
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can emerge from that.
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So age really is,
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you know, if you think it's a problem, it is,
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if you don't think it's a problem, it's not.
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It's all in your mind. - It's all in your head.
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Yeah, I can completely agree with you.
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And this is actually something that I did
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when I was in high school I think.
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Because I started learning English when I was a kid,
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this is something that everyone does
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when they're at school in Russia.
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And obviously like when I was a kid,
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I didn't like English at all,
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I didn't real like studying that much to be honest.
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But then when I actually started liking English more,
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I was just reading everything because I love reading,
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even in my native language, right?
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So for me it was kind of like natural
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to progress to reading books in English.
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Yeah, now I just read everything,
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I don't know, almost every single day.
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- I mean, it is those things that,
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it's not just very effective,
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but reading, it also has the benefit
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of being something you can do anywhere.
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You can do it in bed, in the kitchen, on the train.
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And so one of the things that you are always looking for
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when helping people with languages,
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like what can you do that fits into your life?
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And if you insist on having a language class
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or actually learning by speaking with somebody,
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it's really hard logistically
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to actually have that time to speak with people.
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But with reading, not only is it very,
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you know, having words on the page
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is a very good way to study,
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because you can go forwards, you can go back, you can check,
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it's a very convenient mode for studying.
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And then the fact that you can do it anywhere
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means that if you can get yourself
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to fall in love with reading, you've already won,
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you've already won the game.
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- I agree with you, because you said that, for example,
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when we speak with other people,
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sometimes other people are not interested
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in the things we're interested it in, right?
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But when you are reading something,
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you can choose the materials you like.
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If you wanna just read and relax,
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you can, I don't know, choose like a fiction book maybe,
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but if you wanna learn something new,
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maybe like a non-fiction book,
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like a non-fiction story will be better for you.
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- Being able to choose your own material is huge.
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So one of the,
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I don't know if your audience is familiar
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with the concept of comprehensible input,
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it's the idea that we should read and listen to things
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not that are necessarily at native level,
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but at a level that we can understand,
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that we are ready for.
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So if you are an intermediate level in English,
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then you should be reading material
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at intermediate or upper intermediate level.
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If you can understand,
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you can understand the messages, then you will learn.
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That's comprehensible input.
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The other side of it is compelling input,
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which means basically read and listen to stuff
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that you are really, really interested in.
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Because if you're really interested in it,
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then you'll learn.
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And so like you said, with reading, it's just great,
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because you can literally learn from anything you want.
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If you like gardening, read about gardening.
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- Yeah, exactly!
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- If you like Russian literature,
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then why not read an English translation of Tolstoy?
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That might be sacrilegious in Russia, I dunno,
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but you get the idea, right?
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You can follow your interests as far as the go.
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- No, actually I read
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one Russian book in English translation,
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it was "Master and Margarita,"
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and it was great because I love this book,
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and I read it twice in Russian and I was like,
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why not read it in English?
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Like, I like this book.
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- Well that's a fantastic tip right there for anyone.
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Anyone who wants to start reading, try this.
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Take a book you've already read in Russian
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and then read the translation in English.
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Because what happens there is you already know the plot,
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you know what's happening,
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which means when you then read in English,
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you can map the language onto meaning that you already have.
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Because often the difficulty with reading
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is that you are reading new words and phrases
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in a new language that you don't know,
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but you also don't know what's happening in the story,
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so you've got to consolidate those two things.
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Sometimes you can read a word,
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but not really understand how it's being used.
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Well if you can read something that you've read before
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you take care of the meaning,
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which means then you can just focus on the language
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and that's a really good thing to do.
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Right now I'm actually reading a book by Higashino Keigo,
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he's a Japanese author.
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And I actually read the English translation first,
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'cause someone gave me the book, and I loved it.
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So I said right, I'm gonna go and read this in Japanese.
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So I'm now reading the original Japanese
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having read the English translation.
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And it doesn't matter, just follow whatever you like.
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If you got a book you like, just go for it!
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- What do you think about reading children's books?
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- The misconception is, it's a children's book
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therefore it's easy, because it's for children.
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but children's books are generally actually not easy at all.
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They have lots of strange animals
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and people who do weird, funny things.
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The vocabulary is quite strange.
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If you have a children's book that you love,
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then of course you can read it.
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No one should ever say don't do this thing.
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But what you'll probably find if you read children's books,
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number one, it could have quite a lot
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of strange vocabulary in it which you don't need,
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and secondly, you're not gonna be interested in it.
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If you're an adult,
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you're not gonna be interested in a children's book,
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unless it's maybe Harry Potter
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that the whole world seems to love.
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So generally I'd say don't make the mistake
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of thinking that because it's a children's book it is easy.
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It's probably not.
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If you want to try something easier,
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then you can try non-fiction.
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Non-fiction tends to be easier
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'cause it's written in more simple language,
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or you can go for graded readers.
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Like I have my book of English stories for example,
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which are written in English,
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but they are graded to a A2 or B1 level.
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That way you can start to read material
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that's interesting to you,
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but is at the right level
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and it's not like reading Shakespeare in the original,
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which is not gonna be easy!
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- Yeah, I agree with you.
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And right now I wanted to talk to you about graded readers,
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because this is something that I used a lot
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when I was an intermediate student and then also upper,
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I don't know, even when I was a beginner,
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like at all the stages of my English learning journey.
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I still remember when I was still living
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in a different Russian town,
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I would go to like a library,
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and sometimes we would even have them in libraries,
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like different graded readers.
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It was amazing, because this was the first time
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when I felt confident in my English,
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because of different levels.
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Could you please tell us more about your graded readers
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and your method behind them?
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- Can I ask you a question first?
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'Cause I'm curious, you said that you read
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lots of graded readers when you were learning English.
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Could you find graded readers that you actually liked,
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that were interesting that you wanted to read?
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- Yeah. - Really?
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- Yeah, of course, yeah.
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- What kind of things did you find?
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- I mean, usually they were just like simplified books
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that we already have,
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they weren't like news stories.
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I don't know, like any book really,
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but just simplified.
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Any maybe like classical literature, I don't know.
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But obviously closer to the,
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I think when it was a beginner it was still,
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I don't know, like simple stories,
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also the stories that we all know.
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We all know them, we all love them, but they're simplified.
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And then later maybe like even Shakespeare,
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but also simplified.
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- So often what I found when I was teaching English
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but also looking at wanting to create
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my own language material,
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I noticed that all of the graded readers
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seemed to be the things that you mentioned,
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classical literature or folk tales or folk stories.
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- Exactly, yeah! - Very old things.
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- And if you happen to like that, well that's great.
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But then for me, that gets boring quite quickly.
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As much as I like classical literature,
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I also want to read other things that are more fun perhaps.
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And so I just noticed that that seemed to be
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a problem in the market for graded readers.
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There wasn't enough graded reader material
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that was actually interesting,
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that you actually want to read.
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17:07
So about five years ago I started writing
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my own books of graded readers.
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17:13
And my goal was really simple,
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my goal was to create fresh, modern, interesting
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graded readers for different languages.
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English is the language
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where you have a lot of graded readers already,
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but if you go to like Spanish, French,
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17:30
there's not much, like there are some,
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17:32
but they're also old and they're also boring.
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17:34
And so I wanted like make
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the Netflix equivalent of graded readers,
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something modern and fresh,
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and so I started writing these books.
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And even from the artwork,
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we try and make it very modern, you know?
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So like something that's this kind of Art Deco style stuff.
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And adding things like images
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and illustrations to the stories,
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18:04
like everything that you want
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to make it more interesting and fun to enjoy.
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So I set out to do that.
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- And was it challenging?
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So you had to write all of the stories yourself,
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how many did you write?
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- So the books themselves are,
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from one language to the rest are translated.
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So that's the first book I wrote was in Spanish.
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I don't have a copy of it here,
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but I write this book of Spanish short stories.
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18:28
And there's only eight in the book,
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I think I did 10 at the beginning and discarded two of them,
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18:33
so we ended up with eight.
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18:35
And then when we created the book
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in the Italian or Dutch or Japanese,
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they're translations and localizations of those stories.
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18:44
So I think I wrote three sets of books.
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One was beginner volume one, beginner volume 2,
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and then intermediate as well.
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18:50
But they're fairly short stories.
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So, the stories are not,
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18:55
it's not high literature, you know, these stories,
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19:00
because they are graded readers
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for beginners, for intermediate.
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But I try to make them just fun and interesting.
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19:08
I've been blogging,
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19:09
I have a website called storylearning.com,
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which I've had since 2013, it's eight years.
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So on storylearning.com,
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I wrote hundreds and hundreds of blog articles.
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So I had a lot of people
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that were subscribed to my newsletter.
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And so when I started writing these stories,
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I asked my audience,
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19:30
hey, tell me, what kind of stories do you like to read?
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And they would tell me, and I'd run these surveys and polls
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19:38
and a few genres went to the top.
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So they would say, everyone likes science fiction.
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And I thought that's strange,
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'cause I don't read science fiction.
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- Yeah, me neither. - People like science fiction.
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And you like crime stories.
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Okay, more predictable.
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Historical fiction.
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And so I got this sense
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19:57
of like the four or five genres that people really liked,
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and then I wrote stories on all of these different genres,
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so that there's something for everyone in the book.
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20:05
And then we did some testing,
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20:07
so I said, okay, go and read these stories.
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Tell me, do you like them, do you not like them?
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My audience would tell me what they like.
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And it was really a collaboration
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between me as the creator of the concept
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and then my audience who would read them
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and give me feedback.
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And so in the end,
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I think we ended up with a format
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where everything from like how long each chapter is,
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that was very scientifically determined.
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Because if the chapters are too long,
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it becomes too hard and you get bored.
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So we had to make the chapters the right length.
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20:41
And so, yeah, it was a very fun process to do.
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- Wow, that's so interesting.
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Yeah, I love historical fiction,
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that's actually my favorite genre.
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You were talking about different chapters,
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and the length of each chapter.
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And how long,
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like as I understand for beginners,
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usually the chapters are shorter, right?
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- We have a different set of criteria for the beginner books
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to the intermediate books, for example.
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And to be clear, when I say for beginners,
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the level is actually not complete beginner,
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it's high beginners, kind of A2 level.
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21:14
So I don't remember exactly the number
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that we put on the length of each chapter.
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But it's essentially like six pages,
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so like that's the length of a page,
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you can see here.
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And there'd be one, two, three, four, five,
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and a half pages. - Okay, yeah.
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So what I want to do is give you the feeling of momentum.
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I want you to feel like you're reading something,
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yes, you have to push, you have to struggle,
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21:43
but then you reach the end of that chapter
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and you feel, yes, I've reached the end!
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21:47
That's motivating.
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So then you can take a break, or if you want,
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21:51
you can carry on and do the next chapter,
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21:53
and each time you're building this feeling of momentum.
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And these things, these structural things,
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are so important for the experience of the reader
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and the student and the experience of feeling motivated.
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- Yeah, I agree with you, I completely agree with you.
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Because every single time you read a book with,
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okay, maybe if you like genuinely
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really, really like this book, it doesn't really matter,
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22:18
but usually if the chapters are extremely long,
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you're like, oh my God, I just wanna finish this chapter!
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It really helps when the chapters are shorter.
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You enjoy the book more.
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- There's a lot more graded readers coming out now
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22:31
and you can just tell
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22:33
they haven't really been thought through that well,
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22:34
because it could be like one page long.
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22:37
And it just doesn't feel like
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you are actually reading a real book.
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22:42
With my books I want you to feel like
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you are actually reading a book,
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22:45
and not some silly study tool, but an actual book.
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22:48
- And how many languages are there
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in your graded reader series?
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- Oh, I've actually lost count.
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22:53
I think it's something like 15, 16,
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22:58
and then we have intermediate.
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Actually, it might be 20 now, I'm not sure, I lose count.
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23:02
And we're releasing Japanese and Irish
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23:06
in the next few months,
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and I think we have like eight more languages
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planned for the next couple of years.
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23:14
So the books have been very, very successful,
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even the publishers have been delighted with what it's done.
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23:21
And so, one of my aims is to help people
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learning as many different languages as possible.
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So I want to do some Asian languages,
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I want to do some African languages.
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For me, it's not good enough to stop at French and Spanish
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and all the typical languages.
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23:38
I wanna do books in Hindi and Greek and Swahili.
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23:44
But yeah, there are these
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kind of commercial considerations as well,
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so we have to think.
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Okay, we spent a year making this one book,
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but if it doesn't sell, then, you know,
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it's a bit of a problem! (laughs)
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- So in your series,
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you have all the different levels from beginner to advanced,
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or only from beginner to intermediate?
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- So we have beginner to intermediate and the reason is
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if you consider yourself advanced in English,
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which we can say B2,
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if you're a strong B2,
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then what do you need to do at that point?
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- Yeah, you just need to read.
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And the original English. - It's real English, right?
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- Yeah, real English. - Yeah, exactly.
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So I want to kind of encourage people
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to make the leap to real books at that point.
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But actually, funnily enough,
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a lot of people have been asking me for advanced stories,
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and maybe it's because
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you have people at the intermediate level
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who just want to push themselves a little bit.
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So I think it would actually be useful,
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it would be useful to do.
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It's not currently a plan, the plan to,
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but I would like to,
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but yeah, nothing just yet.
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- If I talk about myself, for example,
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I think I read a lot of intermediate books,
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like for intermediate students when I read graded readers.
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This was, I think for me,
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was like the most popular level
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and then I think once I was upper intermediate
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I just stopped and I started reading real literature,
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in English for English speakers.
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- Because then you can choose the best stuff as well.
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You go and read the best books
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that you're most interested in.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- Ultimately, when we are reading,
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or doing anything in a language,
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what we really want to try to do
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is we wanna know where where we're trying to go.
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And so the where we're trying to get to
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with learning a language,
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to be able to behave like a native speaker in that language.
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So in other words, if I get you to read in English now,
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I want you to keep reading
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until you start to read like a native English speaker.
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- Yeah, I love graded readers myself
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and I, like on my channel,
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I have I think like a couple of videos
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where I talk about reading in English
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and I always talk about graded readers
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because I'm a huge fan of this kind of literature.
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- Well I'm gonna send you some of mine in the-
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- Yeah, that's gonna be so cool!
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Like, I love books, so yeah,
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it's gonna be really interesting for me.
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- With your English,
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it's no coincidence that your English is as good as it is
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and you like reading.
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I always say to people like, among your friends,
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think about the smartest person you know.
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I guarantee you that person reads a lot.
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So it's very predictable really.
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- Yeah, that's probably why.
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- No surprise to me that you're a big reader.
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- Yeah, that's probably why I like reading,
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I wanna be smart, you know?
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- There you go.
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- Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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And I think to finish off our interview
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I just wanted to ask you this one last question.
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Maybe you could, I don't know,
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share some tips with my audience
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on how they can read more successfully in English
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or maybe even fall in love with reading,
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because I feel like a lot of people really struggle
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with the fact that they just don't like reading.
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- It is true that there are people
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that are not used to reading,
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more and more now that we have smartphones
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and the internet and everything.
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I could keep saying how, you know,
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reading is the most beneficial thing,
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but if you don't like reading, then you don't like reading.
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I think for some,
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if people genuinely don't like reading,
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then maybe the best thing to do instead
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is listen to podcasts, watch TV.
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I don't think that StoryLearning as I call it,
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with how I teach it, is for everybody at all,
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but I do think that if you can learn to love reading,
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then you have a huge advantage.
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And the key is, we talked earlier about those two things,
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comprehensible input, compelling input.
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These are the things to do.
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So you've got to find material at your level
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and then find material that is at your level
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and really, really interesting to you.
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And if you can find those things,
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then that's how you get interested.
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Because you might love watching Netflix
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or listening to podcasts.
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You can't get the experience of reading a book
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anywhere else that's not in a book.
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Reading books like are unique.
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I would say think about the things
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that you enjoy reading in your mother tongue.
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Do you like reading football magazines?
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Do you like reading the news?
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Think about what you would read
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and most enjoy in your mother tongue
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and then try to do the same thing in English.
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At least then you'll be really interested.
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And if you're really interested,
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you stand the best chance of continuing,
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keeping it up, and learning.
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- When people read,
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they often like come across words that they don't know,
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like new vocabulary.
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Do you have any recommendations
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on how they can memorize new vocabulary?
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- I would suggest that actually the best thing to do
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is not to try to memorize new vocabulary.
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- Huh, interesting!
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Because, if the goal is to read,
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and if we believe that the way you're going to learn fast
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is by reading often,
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then we've got to focus on the habit of reading often.
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Now if there's one thing
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that's gonna stop you reading a lot
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it is looking up words, memorizing words.
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'Cause as soon as you start doing that,
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you're doing something else now, you're not reading,
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you're doing playing memory games, you know?
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So you could read for 30 minutes easily
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and then spend another 30 minutes
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memorizing vocabulary from the book.
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In my opinion, what's much better is to actually,
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rather than spending 30 minutes memorizing vocabulary,
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spend that 30 minutes on reading even more.
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And there've been many studies that have shown
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that if you have people who just read
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versus read and memorize, or just memorize,
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the people who just read, they win every time.
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They remember more vocabulary, their grammar is better.
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And the reason is that you learn naturally,
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your brain learns stuff naturally.
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If you keep reading, that word that you want to memorize,
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it will come up again and again
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and again and again and again.
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And when you see it in the story or in context,
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you start to get an intuitive understanding
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of what that word means.
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So what I always suggest to people
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is the best way to learn and memorize a word
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is to keep reading and seeing that word over and over again.
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And if you don't, and people say,
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well what happens if the word doesn't come back?
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You will never lose this word.
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If the word doesn't come back, well guess what?
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It's probably not a very important word.
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- Yeah, I completely agree with you,
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because this is something that I had when I was younger.
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So I used to have this like really big notebook
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where I would write every single word that I didn't know.
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And I think like a couple of, maybe like a year ago,
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I found this notebook at my parents' house.
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I opened it and I just realized that I know,
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like right now, obviously I know all of these words,
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but I didn't learn them.
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I just wrote them down, yeah, I didn't memorize them.
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I just wrote them down and then I forgot about them.
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But there were also some words
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they were just like, so weird,
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like why would I even wanna learn them?
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Yeah, they were too formal, maybe like outdated.
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- But you can see all these words and you say,
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okay, I don't know that word therefore I should learn it.
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Not true.
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If you're reading Harry Potter
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and you're reading about Hogwarts,
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why do you have to learn the word Hogwarts,
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even though you don't need it?
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And so, to the untrained eye,
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every word looks like an important word
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that needs to be memorized.
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But just like we said earlier,
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the best way to know whether a word is worth learning
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is if it comes up again and again
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and again and again in your reading.
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And if that word comes up again and, and again, and again,
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guess what, you're gonna learn it naturally.
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So you don't need to memorize it.
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Now, I'm being a bit extreme to make the point.
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Sometimes it probably is helpful
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to memorize something here or there.
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But the problem is that most people,
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because of the way we've been trained at school,
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their default is memorize, memorize, memorize.
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So what I try to do is get people away from that
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into read, read, read.
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- Wow, that's a really great tip.
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Yeah, thank you so much.
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It was really fun and interesting talking to you,
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because I love reading and I could talk about reading
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and books and stories all day long.
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So thank you so much for being on my channel
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and agreeing to film this interview with me.
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And before we finish,
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could you please tell my audience where they can find you,
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like your YouTube channel?
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- Yeah, so if you're on YouTube now,
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go to my YouTube channel,
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which is Olly Richards,
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just search for Olly Richards or StoryLearning in YouTube,
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you will find it.
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I also have a website called StoryLearning.com
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and you can practice your English by reading the articles,
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blog articles that we have on the website.
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And if you want to practice reading with graded readers,
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have lots of books available,
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well, in Russia, I don't know where they're available,
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but I'm sure you can find them somewhere.
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- Yeah, my audience is very international,
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so I'm sure they'll be able to find your books.
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- Fantastic.
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- Yeah, so thank you so much, and have a great day!
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- Same to you!
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(mellow music) - So guys,
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it was so interesting for me to film this interview
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and to be a part of this interview as well,
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because as you know,
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I always share this on Instagram and on YouTube,
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I love reading!
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I read almost every single day,
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and I know that it helps me learn English
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and it also helps me improve my writing skills in English,
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and this is something that I genuinely enjoy doing.
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Don't forget to subscribe to my channel
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and follow me on Instagram.
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If you wanna get a script to this video,
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make sure to join me here on YouTube
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by clicking this join button,
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or you can also go on my Patreon page
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and pick a membership there.
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Thank you guys so much for watching this interview
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and I'll see you next time.
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Bye guys!
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(mellow music)
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