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English Addict with Mr Duncan


์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

02:55
Doo doo doo doo doo
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๋‘๋‘๋‘๋‘๋‘๋‘๋‘๋‘๋‘๋‘
02:57
doo doo doo doo doo.
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๋‘๋‘.
03:01
Yes, we are back together again.
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๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ญ‰์ณค์–ด์š”.
03:04
English addict with you once more.
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์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:08
And are you as excited as I am?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๋‚˜๋งŒํผ ์‹ ๋‚˜์š”?
03:11
Because we are just over one week away from Christmas.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ๋„ ์ฑ„ ๋‚จ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:16
I'm pretty excited and I hope you are as well.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ ๋‚˜๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:40
We are back together again.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋Œ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:43
It's so lovely to have you here once more.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ด๊ณณ์— ๋ชจ์‹œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์ •๋ง ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
Hi, everybody. This is Mr. Duncan in England.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„. ์ด ๋ถ„์€ ์˜๊ตญ์˜ ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:50
How are you today?
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์–ด๋– ์„ธ์š”?
03:51
Are you okay? I hope so.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์„ธ์š”? ๋‚˜๋Š” ํฌ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค.
03:54
Are you happy? Are you feeling good?
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ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๋‹ˆ? ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์•„?
03:57
And I suppose I should also say, please
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
04:00
give me a lovely like if you like what you see, then please say, Mr.
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๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ
04:06
Duncan, we really like what we see.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
04:08
And you can show your appreciation by doing this clicking on one of these,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ์˜ ๋œป์„ ํ‘œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ
04:14
we are back and I suppose I should explain one or two things.
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๋Œ์•„์™€์„œ ํ•œ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:18
My name is Duncan. I talk about the English language.
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๋‚ด ์ด๋ฆ„์€ ๋˜์ปจ์ด์—์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:21
You might say that I am an English addict.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:26
I am crazy about English.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด์— ๋ฏธ์ณค๋‹ค.
04:30
Let's just say, and I am with you every week from 2 p.m.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ์ €๋Š” ๋งค์ฃผ ์˜คํ›„ 2์‹œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:35
UK time talking about English.
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์˜๊ตญ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์œผ๋กœ ์˜์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:37
We often talk about lots of different subjects and of course we have
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ, ๋ฌผ๋ก 
04:40
you as well on the live chat.
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์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์—๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:44
Don't forget to activate the live chat
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์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์„ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด
04:47
and you will be able to speak to me.
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์ €์™€ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:50
You can send your text messages on the live chat and of course you can share
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๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์—์„œ ๋ฌธ์ž ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋ฌผ๋ก 
04:55
your love of English with everyone else as well.
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์˜์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:00
All three are the English addicts and
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์„ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž์ด๊ณ 
05:06
as I promised during the week,
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์ฃผ์ค‘์— ์•ฝ์†ํ•œ ๋Œ€๋กœ
05:10
he is back after having a very busy couple of weeks
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๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฐ”์œ ๊ณต์—ฐ์„ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ณ  ๋Œ์•„์™”๊ณ 
05:16
performing and it is something that is coming up next weekend.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ๋ง์— ์žˆ์„ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:21
Of course, we will be building up to Christmas and we will be with you next Sunday,
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ณต๊ต๋กญ๊ฒŒ๋„ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ์ธ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ผ์š”์ผ์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:26
which just happens to be Christmas Eve.
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.
05:30
I'm not joking with you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋†๋‹ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:33
And when I say we, I mean myself.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:36
And also
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
05:39
he is back by popular demand.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ์š”๊ตฌ์— ํž˜์ž…์–ด ๋Œ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:42
A lot of people have wanted to see him again.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:46
So today he is taking a rest.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๋Š” ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
05:49
But he's also joining us here as well on the live stream.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ์—์„œ๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
05:54
Yes, it is Mr.
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๋„ค,
05:57
Steve.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:58
And he is sitting in the corner, or as I like to call it, Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ตฌ์„์—, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋ฅด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋Œ€๋กœ
06:03
Steve's comfortable, cosy corner here.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ์˜ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„๋Š‘ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์„์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:08
He is.
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๊ทธ๋Š”.
06:11
Hello.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
06:12
Hello, everybody.
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๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค ์•ˆ๋…•.
06:14
Hello, Mr. Duncan.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
06:16
This is very different. Very different time.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„.
06:19
Relax, time, recline ning.
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๊ธด์žฅ์„ ํ’€๊ณ , ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ , ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์–ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
06:22
There's no stress. The first thing.
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์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ.
06:24
The first thing I should ask Steve, are you comfortable?
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:27
I'm comfortable, yes. Well, we had.
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๋‚œ ํŽธํ•ด, ์‘. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”.
06:29
We had come with a different chair. This one is fine.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์ž๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฑด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:32
It's a bit of a hard back, but it's better than me standing for nearly 2 hours.
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ํ—ˆ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ํž˜๋“ ๋ฐ 2์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด ์„œ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋‚ซ๋„ค์š”.
06:37
I was getting a bit exhausted with that, Mr. Duncan.
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๊ทธ ์ผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ข€ ์ง€์ณ๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
06:40
So I've got the live chat here.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:42
Everything is at my fingertips, so you can just scan down and see who's on there.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด ์†๋์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์Šค์บ”ํ•˜์—ฌ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:48
And all is well with the world and the world of English. Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜์–ด์˜ ์„ธ๊ณ„์™€ ์„ธ๊ณ„์™€ ์ž˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Mr.
06:51
Duncan So the first thing to mention is the studio is now different.
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Duncan ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•  ์ ์€ ์ด์ œ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค๊ฐ€ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:55
Mr. Steve has his own comfortable corner looking a little bit
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๋Š”
07:00
Christmasy in the corner as well, with some lights behind him.
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๊ทธ์˜ ๋’ค์— ์กฐ๋ช…์ด ์žˆ์–ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋‚˜๋Š” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•œ ์ฝ”๋„ˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:04
Next week, of course, we will be getting more of the Christmas decorations out
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ด๋ง˜๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์žฅ์‹์„ ๊บผ๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:10
because it will be Christmas Eve this time next week
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07:13
and we will both be here getting you in the mood
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ์— ์ด์–ด์ง€๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์กฐ์„ฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:20
for Christmas Day, which will follow next Sunday.
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.
07:24
And I am very excited.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ถ„๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:27
I don't know what you've bought me, Mr. Steve.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์‚ฌ์ฃผ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ.
07:31
I'm sure it's something lovely.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ์ผ
07:36
It might be Mr.
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07:36
Duncan. It might be.
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์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์–ด์š”
. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:37
It's been a bit it's a bit been a bit dicey this year.
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์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์•„์Šฌ์•„์Šฌํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:41
If you say something's dicey, it means it's a bit risky
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
07:46
in terms of getting presents into the house for Mr.
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07:51
Duncan without him seeing what's on them or seeing the package and being able to guess.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์— ๋“ค์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํŒจํ‚ค์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์ถ”์ธกํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ƒํƒœ์—์„œ ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ง‘์— ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ
07:58
Because let's face it, a lot of us these days, including myself,
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๋งํ•˜๋ฉด, ์š”์ฆ˜ ์ €๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ƒ์ ์— ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
08:03
I order virtually everything from online shopping because I hate going into shops.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ์‡ผํ•‘์—์„œ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
08:08
A lot of people do.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:10
And now I'm back to work again.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ผํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ๋Œ์•„์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:12
These parcels have been turning.
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์ด ์†Œํฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:15
I say parcels I'm giving away the fact that I might have bought more than one present for Mr.
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์ €๋Š” ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ์—๊ฒŒ ์ค„ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ ์ด์ƒ ์ƒ€์„์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ
08:19
Duncan, but they're arriving when I'm at work.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผํ•  ๋•Œ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด ๋„์ฐฉํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์†Œํฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:23
So Mr.
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08:23
Duncan has to answer the door to the postman and receive the parcel
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
๋˜์ปจ ์”จ๋Š” ์šฐ์ฒด๋ถ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌธ์„ ์—ด์–ด
08:29
that is containing his Christmas present
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด ๋“ค์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์†Œํฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ 
08:33
and and sometimes they arrive, do they not?
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์†Œํฌ๊ฐ€ ๋„์ฐฉํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
08:38
And they're not wrapped properly or they're in the
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ํฌ์žฅ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
08:42
the box that gives away the name of the product
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์ œํ’ˆ ์ด๋ฆ„
08:45
or the brand or something on the outside.
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์ด๋‚˜ ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋“œ ์ด๋ฆ„ ๋˜๋Š” ์™ธ๋ถ€์— ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ ํ˜€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒ์ž์— ๋“ค์–ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:48
You you have to be very careful when you're ordering online for your partner for presents.
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ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ•  ๋•Œ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:53
Yes, you do.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:54
You have to be careful because sometimes you might
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
08:57
accidentally reveal the gift to the other person.
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์‹ค์ˆ˜๋กœ ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์ฃผ์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:00
I think this Christmas. Yes.
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์ด๋ฒˆ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์˜ˆ.
09:02
I don't know about you, Steve, but I think this Christmas is being very weird, very strange.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋–จ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ด๋ฒˆ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ณ , ์ •๋ง ์ด์ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
09:07
It doesn't feel as if many people want
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09:11
to actually celebrate Christmas, including advertisers.
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๊ด‘๊ณ ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:15
So so we haven't seen any real
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ
09:19
traditional Christmas advertising.
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์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:22
So it would appear this year that a lot of people maybe they don't want to celebrate Christmas,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์˜ฌํ•ด์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
09:27
maybe they don't feel as enthusiastic as they did in the past.
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ๋งŒํผ ์—ด๊ด‘์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:34
So it is it is a very strange one this year, I have to be honest.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:38
Anyway, next Sunday it will be Christmas Eve
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ์€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:42
and we will be together here helping you get in the mood.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„ ์ „ํ™˜์„ ๋„์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:48
We've got everything arranged.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ค€๋น„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:49
We've got some food coming.
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์Œ์‹์ด ์ข€ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋„ค์š”.
09:51
We've got we're having turkey this year.
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์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋จน์„ ์˜ˆ์ •์ด์—์š”.
09:56
I'm looking forward to that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:57
Steve.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
09:58
Yes, well, we normally have chicken because I just can't be bothered.
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๋„ค, ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๊ท€์ฐฎ์•„์„œ ๋ณดํ†ต ์น˜ํ‚จ์„ ๋จน์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
10:01
The thing is, you can't get there's only two of us because nobody wants to.
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๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
10:05
Nobody wants to spend Christmas with us.
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:07
So it's only ever just the two of us and we never get invited anywhere.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜๋งŒ ์žˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ด๊ณ  ์–ด๋””์—๋„ ์ดˆ๋Œ€๋ฐ›์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:11
So it's just the two of us.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜๋ฟ์ด์—์š”.
10:12
And it's very difficult to get a turkey
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
10:16
that isn't for at least six people, that always gigantic things.
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์ตœ์†Œํ•œ 6๋ช…์ด ๋จน์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š”, ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ฅผ ๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:22
And you can go to the supermarket sort of Christmas Eve
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ
10:24
or the day before, and all the small ones have gone.
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๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ์ „๋‚ ์— ์Šˆํผ๋งˆ์ผ“์— ๊ฐ€๋„ ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ ธ ๋ฒ„๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:28
And we've done this before. Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ „์—๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:30
Duncan We've ended up buying like a turkey for eight or ten people because that's all that's left.
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๋˜์ปจ์”จ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ 8~10๋ช…์ด ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‚ฌ๊ฒŒ ๋์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค ๋‚จ์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
10:35
Well, let's face it, Turkey turkeys are big creatures.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋Š” ํฐ ์ƒ๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:39
That's right. So
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
10:41
I well, I don't know what's going to arrive.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด ๋„์ฐฉํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:43
I've ordered one.
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ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:45
Hopefully it's only a small one,
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์ž‘์€ ์‚ฌ์ด์ฆˆ์ด๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์ง€๋งŒ,
10:47
but if it's not in stock on the day, they'll send a large one.
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๋‹น์ผ ์žฌ๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ํฐ ์‚ฌ์ด์ฆˆ๋กœ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:50
And I'm not sure if our oven is big enough.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์˜ค๋ธ์ด ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ํฐ์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:54
Well it is the main part of the whole Christmas festivity
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ „์ฒด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ถ•์ œ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
10:58
as far as, as far as I'm concerned, I think the turkey is the centrepiece.
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.
11:03
Besides the gifts and all of the children getting excited,
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์„ ๋ฌผ ๊ณผ ๋ชจ๋“  ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์‹ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์™ธ์—๋„
11:07
I think the food, to be honest with you, the food is the main part. Yes.
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์Œ์‹์ด ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์Œ์‹์ด ์ฃผ์š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
11:14
And the thing with Turkey is I mean, I don't know.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ„ฐํ‚ค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
11:16
This is you know, in the UK, it's a traditional thing.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:20
Everybody has a turkey and you always end up with loads of turkey left
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ๋‚จ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ 
11:26
and then you have it on Boxing Day
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๋ฐ•์‹ฑ ๋ฐ์ด์— ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋จน๊ณ  ๋˜
11:30
and then you make a career out of it another day.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚ ์— ๊ทธ๊ฑธ๋กœ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ์Œ“๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:33
Then you have it with something.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:34
You keep trying to come up with ways of using up
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๋‹น์‹ ์€
11:39
the this giant bird with all the meat on that.
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๊ณ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ž”๋œฉ ๋ถ™์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด ๊ฑฐ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒˆ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค ์จ๋ฒ„๋ฆด ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:43
You've paid a lot of money for trying to come up with different recipes
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„
11:47
that sort of don't make it look the same every time you you have it in it.
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๋„ฃ์„ ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์•„ ๋ณด์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์š”๋ฆฌ๋ฒ•์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€๋ถˆํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:52
So I remember once we had enough for about a week, we had turkey every day for a week.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•œ ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ์ •๋„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๋จน์€ ๋’ค ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ๋งค์ผ ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋จน์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:58
And it's a very dry meat.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฑด์กฐํ•œ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:00
So you've got to do something with it to liven it up a bit.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์ด๋ผ๋„ ํ™œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ถˆ์–ด๋„ฃ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:04
I shall clarify it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
12:06
Mr. Duncan.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
12:07
We will have a turkey curry one day
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์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ์น ๋ฉด์กฐ ์นด๋ ˆ๋ฅผ ๋จน์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:10
and at the sound of that.
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12:12
And it'll be nice.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
12:13
It'll be nice.
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์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:14
It's a rather expensive Mr. Duncan.
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๊ฝค ๋น„์‹ผ ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:16
Then about four times the cost of a chicken.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹ญ๊ณ ๊ธฐ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์˜ ์•ฝ 4 ๋ฐฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:18
Yes. Well, everything is expensive this year, to be honest with you.
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์˜ˆ. ์Œ, ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋น„์Œ‰๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:22
Everything is so expensive.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋น„์‹ธ๋‹ค.
12:24
I think a lot of people aren't bothering because it's just too expensive to do it.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋น„์šฉ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ท€์ฐฎ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
12:29
If I was honest with you. Anyway, enough of that.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์†”์งํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด. ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:32
We will be talking a lot about Christmas next weekend as it approaches,
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ๋ง์ด ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ฌ์ˆ˜๋ก ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:37
and I suppose we should get ourselves in the Christmas spirit right now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ๋‹น์žฅ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋ฝํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:42
So I'm going to show you some of the Christmas lights
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ˜์ง์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ „๊ตฌ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด์—ฌ ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:45
that are at the moment twinkling around much.
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12:51
Wenlock And I have to say it all looks rather nice.
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Wenlock ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฝค ์ข‹์•„ ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:55
And then I'm back here with Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๋กœ ์™”๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ• 
12:57
Steve and we will talk about what
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๋‚ด์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
13:00
we are going to talk about today.
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. ๋ณด์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
17:01
Christmas is in the air,
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
17:04
as you can see, because next weekend,
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. ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ๋ง์€
17:08
well, it is Christmas Eve, next Sunday,
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ผ์š”์ผ,
17:12
and then, of course, the following day it is Christmas Day.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‚ ์ด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:15
We will not be with you, I have to say right now, for those wondering
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ์€
17:20
if I am going to be with you, we will be sitting down, Mr.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•‰์•„์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:25
Steve having a well-deserved rest
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ๋Š” ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ
17:28
because he has been working so hard, haven't you, Steve?
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์ผํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ?
17:34
yes. Hello, Mr.
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์˜ˆ. ์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”,
17:35
Duncan.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
17:38
yes, yes.
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์‘, ์‘. ๋‹จ์ง€
17:39
It's just it's always busy at this time of the year.
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์ผ๋…„์ค‘ ์ด๋ง˜๋•Œ๋ฉด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐ”์œ ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์ฐจํ”ผ
17:41
A lot of people say this because everyone's busy anyway, aren't you?
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๋‹ค๋“ค ๋ฐ”์˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ฃ  ? ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด
17:46
You're so busy if you're working, you're busy anyway,
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฐ”๋น ์š”. ์–ด์ฐจํ”ผ ๋ฐ”์œ๋ฐ,
17:50
and then you've got family and friends and there isn't.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ณผ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์—†์–ด์š”.
17:55
You know, a lot of people don't have much spare time anyway.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์—ฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:59
Then Christmas comes along and it creates extra stress because you've got to fit in
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๊ณ  ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ
18:05
extra parties
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์ถ”๊ฐ€ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
18:07
at work or you've got to go and buy presents.
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๊ฐ€์„œ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋” ์ปค์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:10
You got to think about that.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:12
And it does create stress.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์œ ๋ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:14
And that build up to Christmas can create a lot of stress for people.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊นŒ์ง€ ์Œ“์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:18
I know it does for me.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•ˆ๋‹ค.
18:20
And, you know, it's not like we've got a big family anymore or lots of people to buy presents for.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋Œ€๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ์—†๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์ค„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:27
Do you know Mr. Duncan?
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ๋ฅผ ์•„์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
18:29
You are the only person I have to buy a present For now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ๋ฟ์ด์—์š”.
18:33
I'm the only person.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‹ค.
18:35
Okay. Can I just say that That's rather sad.
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ข€ ์Šฌํ”„๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
18:38
Well, guess what?
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”?
18:39
It's a very cheap Christmas. Guess what, Steve?
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์•„์ฃผ ์‹ผ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งž์ถฐ๋ด, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ?
18:42
You are the only person that I buy gifts for as well.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:48
So that might be a sad indictment of our lives, but I'm not sure if it is.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‚ถ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์Šฌํ”ˆ ๊ธฐ์†Œ์ผ์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ธ์ง€๋Š” ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:53
I'm sure a lot of people are in a similar situation.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:58
So we always think of people going out and buying lots and lots of presents for their family.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:02
But I think mainly it's for kids.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ฃผ๋กœ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
19:04
We don't have children in all of our well,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์šฐ๋ฌผ์—๋Š” ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ณ ,
19:09
I suppose relatives in our families have grown up,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์˜ ์นœ์ฒ™๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค ์ž๋ž๊ธฐ
19:12
so we don't have kids to buy things for now.
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ด ์•„์ด๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:16
So I think that's the main reason why.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฃผ๋œ ์ด์œ ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:18
So I don't think it is sad is it sounds yes,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์Šฌํ”ˆ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
19:22
my sister's children are all over 18, so they're adults are all
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์ œ ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ 18์‚ด์ด ๋„˜์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋ฅธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘
19:28
got jobs.
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19:28
So, you know, obviously not buying presents for them any more.
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์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์—ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
19:32
My sister and I decided
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๋‚ด ์—ฌ๋™์ƒ๊ณผ ๋‚˜๋Š”
19:34
a number of years ago that we would stop buying Christmas presents
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๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „์— ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์„ ๋ฌผ ๊ตฌ์ž…์„ ์ค‘๋‹จํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:37
just because it's pretty pointless because you end up
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
19:41
buying stuff that people don't really need.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฝค ๋ฌด์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:44
And then it either gets recycled or you take it to somewhere where there's a raffle
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์žฌํ™œ์šฉ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ถ”์ฒจ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
19:50
or it's just a waste of money.
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๋ˆ ๋‚ญ๋น„์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:52
So most people, you know, if you've grown up, you're pretty much buying
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์„ฑ์žฅํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
19:57
anything you need as you go along. Yes.
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ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์‚ฌ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
20:01
So yeah, it's
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๋„ค,
20:03
sounds a bit like bah humbug Scrooge, but it's not for that reason.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์‚ฌ๊ธฐ๊พผ ์Šคํฌ๋ฃจ์ง€์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:08
It's just, well, I've got friends, but we don't buy each other Christmas presents.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ, ๋‚˜์—๊ฒ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์„œ๋กœ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์ฃผ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•„์š”.
20:13
We might exchange card, but we long ago
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์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ตํ™˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์ „์—
20:16
said, you know, let's not do Christmas presents.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ๋ง์ž๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:19
It's stressful.
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์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ์Œ์—
20:21
You end up with something you don't like, probably end up with too many chocolates.
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๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์Œ์‹์„ ๋จน๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ดˆ์ฝœ๋ฆฟ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:27
So that's, that's it.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:29
I know you don't all celebrate Christmas, but yeah.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
20:33
Do you buy presents for everybody?
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๋‹ค๋“ค ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
20:35
I mean, we saw somebody I know if you've got children or grandchildren.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ž๋…€๋‚˜ ์†์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ดค๋‹จ ๋ง์ด์—์š”.
20:40
I was speaking to somebody that we know in one of the shops in Much Wenlock.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋จธ์น˜ ์›ฌ๋ก( Much Wenlock)์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒ์  ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:44
I and she's got 12 grandchildren and she's got to buy presents
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๋‚˜์™€ ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” 12๋ช…์˜ ์†์ฃผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š”
20:50
for all 12 children because I think she's got three or four children herself.
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12๋ช…์˜ ์ž๋…€ ๋ชจ๋‘๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋…€ ์ž์‹ ๋„ ์„œ๋„ˆ ๋ช…์˜ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:55
They've all had children And she said
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ž๋…€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ 
20:58
the minimum amount she can spend is ยฃ50 on each one.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์ง€์ถœํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ตœ์†Œ ๊ธˆ์•ก์€ ํ•œ ๋ช…๋‹น ยฃ50๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:02
Yeah, well, she's only working in a shop, so she's not earning a large amount of money.
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๋„ค, ๋ญ, ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์—์„œ๋งŒ ์ผํ•ด์„œ ๋ˆ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฒŒ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•„์š”.
21:06
Can I just stop you there and say, I think there is
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ ค๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
21:09
a lot of pressure on parents
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๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด
21:12
to buy children very expensive things.
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์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์•„์ฃผ ๋น„์‹ผ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ์ค˜์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
21:16
Like, I suppose, for example, would be computer games,
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด
21:20
not necessarily the equipment, but the actual games themselves.
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๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ์žฅ๋น„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์‹ค์ œ ๊ฒŒ์ž„ ์ž์ฒด์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:25
And I suppose also clothing trainers
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋˜ํ•œ ์˜๋ฅ˜ ํŠธ๋ ˆ์ด๋„ˆ
21:29
or as they call them in the United States sneakers.
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๋˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์šด๋™ํ™”๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:33
So there are many expensive things and the kids
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐ’๋น„์‹ผ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด ๋งŽ๊ณ  ์•„์ด๋“ค์€ ๊ธ‰์šฐ๋‚˜
21:37
expect the parents to buy them because they know there is a lot of pressure
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21:42
from their classmates or their friends to
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
21:45
to have the latest thing or the best things.
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์ตœ์‹  ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์••๋ ฅ์ด ํฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ถ€๋ชจ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์ฃผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:50
So I think there is a lot of pressure.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ถ€๋‹ด๊ฐ์ด ํฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
21:52
I do sympathise with parents.
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์ €๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์˜ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๊ณต๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:55
I'm going to be honest, if you are a parent with three kids or a grandparent
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์†”์งํžˆ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ์ž๋ฉด, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์„ธ ์ž๋…€๋ฅผ ๋‘” ๋ถ€๋ชจ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
22:01
with maybe six or seven grandchildren,
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6~7๋ช…์˜ ์†์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋‘” ์กฐ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋ผ๋ฉด
22:04
there might be a lot of pressure, more pressure on nowadays to to buy things.
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์š”์ฆ˜ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ์ด ๋” ์ปค์งˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:09
We haven't mentioned something yet and that is the life chat.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ง ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ธ์ƒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:15
Can I say congratulations to
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์ œ๊ฐ€
22:18
and you will be pleased to hear that I have repaired my echo.
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๋ฉ”์•„๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋ฆฌํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์†Œ์‹์„ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด ๊ธฐ๋ปํ•˜์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ถ•ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:23
So congratulations to
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
22:27
if I can get it to work.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž‘๋™์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ถ•ํ•˜๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ค๋Š˜
22:28
Louis Mendes
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๋ฃจ์ด์Šค ๋ฉ˜๋ฐ์Šค๊ฐ€
22:32
is here today.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:36
Louis, congratulations.
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๋ฃจ์ด, ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ด์š”.
22:38
You are first on today's live chat.
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์— ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:40
A round of applause.
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๋ฐ•์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:47
But Beatrice and Vitesse were close on Louis's heels.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ Beatrice์™€ Vitesse๋Š” Louis์˜ ๋ฐœ๋’ค๊ฟˆ์น˜์— ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:53
Pound bearer Olga Valentine Shankar, a lot of people at Christina as well,
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ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ ์†Œ์ง€์ž Olga Valentine Shankar์™€ Christina์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„
22:59
probably all went on it much the same time
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์„œ๋กœ ๋ช‡ ์ดˆ ์•ˆ์— ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๊ฐ”์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:03
within a few seconds each other
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23:06
to take her as well. Yes.
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. ์˜ˆ.
23:08
So lots of people went on early.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์ฐ ๊ฐ”์–ด์š”.
23:10
I've got to say, actually, yes.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:15
Christina said.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
23:16
By the way, there's some problem with the subtitles, isn't there today?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ž๋ง‰์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์—†๋‚˜์š”?
23:21
Now, this is because because YouTube have changed the way they set everything up. So.
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์ด๋Š” YouTube๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์„ค์ • ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ.
23:25
So now you have to personally activate the captions.
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์ด์ œ ์บก์…˜์„ ์ง์ ‘ ํ™œ์„ฑํ™”ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:30
Whereas in the past it would be automatic.
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์—๋Š” ์ž๋™์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:32
So now you have to do it physically.
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์ด์ œ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:34
You have to click a particular button.
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ํŠน์ • ๋ฒ„ํŠผ์„ ํด๋ฆญํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:36
And today I did not click it because I'm I'm a little busy at the moment.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ข€ ๋ฐ”๋น ์„œ ํด๋ฆญ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:42
So that's the one thing I forgot.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์žŠ์€ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:44
But in the past it would just happen automatically.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์—๋Š” ์ž๋™์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:47
But now
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€
23:48
no. So I do apologise.
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์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๊ณผ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:51
But there will be captions later when this is archived
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜์ค‘์—
23:57
or saved on YouTube, so don't worry too much.
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์œ ํŠœ๋ธŒ์— ๋ณด๊ด€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ €์žฅํ•˜๋ฉด ์ž๋ง‰์ด ๋‚˜์˜ค๋‹ˆ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
24:01
Christina says that and I've noticed this as well.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋„ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:05
The bars and pubs are crowded with office workers
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์ˆ ์ง‘๊ณผ ์ˆ ์ง‘์€ ํŒŒ์ธํŠธ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Š” ์ง์žฅ์ธ๋“ค๋กœ ๋ถ๋น„๊ณ 
24:08
drinking pints, commotion everywhere in the evenings.
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์ €๋…์ด๋ฉด ๊ณณ๊ณณ์ด ๋– ๋“ค์ฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:13
Yes, commotion every.
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๋„ค, ๋งค๋ฒˆ ์†Œ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:15
Everyone's trying to do things as parties.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ํŒŒํ‹ฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:18
And I've noticed for the last two or three weeks if I've been into a supermarket,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ 2~3์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ์Šˆํผ๋งˆ์ผ“์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:24
because sometimes at lunchtime for my customers in my job,
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๊ฐ€๋” ์ ์‹ฌ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์ œ ์ง์žฅ ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด
24:28
I provide them with some lunch.
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์ ์‹ฌ์„ ๋Œ€์ ‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„ ํ–ˆ์ฃ .
24:32
If it's over lunch time so that we can talk and eat at the same time.
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์ ์‹ฌ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋™์‹œ์— ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹์‚ฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:36
And the supermarkets have been so chaotic,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Šˆํผ๋งˆ์ผ“์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์„œ
24:39
you would think there was,
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24:43
you know, some some big event coming.
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์–ด๋–ค ํฐ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด์ด ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์˜ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:47
You know, you think that
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
24:49
there was going to be there's a shortage of something.
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€์กฑํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:51
Everyone's out there manically buying stuff, filling up their shopping basket.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ •์‹ ์—†์ด ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ๋ฉฐ ์žฅ๋ฐ”๊ตฌ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋“ ์ฑ„์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:57
So you would have Steve, you would think the world was about to come to an end.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์„ธ์ƒ์ด ๊ณง ์ข…๋ง์„ ๋งž์ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:00
Yes, that's that's the phrase I was looking for.
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๋„ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฐพ๋˜ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
25:03
I mean, just sort of panic.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํŒจ๋‹‰ ์ƒํƒœ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
25:05
You can see in there sort of pushing you and sort of just annoying you.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฐ€์–ด๋ถ™์ด๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์งœ์ฆ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:10
And you always get that at this time of the year.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด๋ง˜๋•Œ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:12
So never mind.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์“ฐ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
25:13
Well, didn't we talk about this yesterday away from the live stream?
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์Œ, ์–ด์ œ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆฌ๋ฐ๊ณผ ๋ณ„๊ฐœ๋กœ ์ด ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‚˜์š”?
25:16
Didn't we talk about this?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‚˜์š”?
25:18
We said, we are so glad because yesterday we went into much Wenlock and the town was absolutely dead.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด์ œ Wenlock์— ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”๊ณ  ๋งˆ์„์ด ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ฃฝ์–ด์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ธฐ์˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:25
It was so quiet and we worked out
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์กฐ์šฉํ•ด์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
25:28
that many people probably were in the big towns and cities.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋Œ€๋„์‹œ ์™€ ๋„์‹œ์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ์•„๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:32
They were all buying things for their relatives and doing their last minute Christmas shopping.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์นœ์ฒ™๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์‡ผํ•‘์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:38
So I think that's the reason why.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ด์œ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
25:40
And we were saying that we are so glad that we don't do that anymore.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ธฐ์˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:44
We don't feel the pressure to go to the supermarket in Russia round
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋Ÿฌ์‹œ์•„ ์Šˆํผ๋งˆ์ผ“์— ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:49
you can order a lot of your food online and then it's delivered to your house
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์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ์Œ์‹์„ ์ฃผ๋ฌธํ•˜๋ฉด ์ง‘์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌ๋˜๊ณ ,
25:54
and of course, your gifts, the things that you buy at Christmas.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์„ ๋ฌผ, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์— ๊ตฌ์ž…ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฌผ๊ฑด๋„ ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:02
sorry. Mr.
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์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:03
Duncan, who would go to a shop at this time of year?
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ์ด๋ง˜๋•Œ๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
26:08
They must be they must be absolutely crazy.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ‹€๋ฆผ์—†์ด ์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋ฏธ์ณค์Œ์— ํ‹€๋ฆผ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:12
It's too stressful, Olga says.
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์˜ฌ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:13
Why don't you buy a present for your sister?
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์—ฌ๋™์ƒ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”?
26:15
Well,
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”,
26:17
we've just decided, both of us, not to do it many years ago.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „์— ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
26:22
Because, I mean, you know, you reached that age.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ๋‚˜์ด์— ์ด๋ฅด๋ €๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:24
We send cards.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:26
She's got everything she needs.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:28
It's just we just decided enough's enough.
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๋‹จ์ง€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:31
Because the other thing is, we live quite a distance from each other,
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„œ๋กœ ๊ฝค ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์— ์‚ด๊ธฐ
26:35
so I'm not going to post it.
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํฌ์ŠคํŒ…์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ
26:38
Is it going to get there?
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๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐˆ๊นŒ์š”?
26:39
It's just.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ.
26:40
And Christmas shouldn't be about buying presents anyway.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์—๋Š” ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:44
And the thing to remember, Steve, we met up with them last week.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๋‚œ์ฃผ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:47
We met up with them.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:48
So we've we've been together, we've had a meal out.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์™ธ์‹๋„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:51
We celebrated.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:52
That's enough.
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์ถฉ๋ถ„ ํ•ด.
26:53
I've reached the age where, quite frankly, Mr.
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์†”์งํžˆ
26:56
Duncan, unless it's for you, I can't be bothered.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:00
We still buy birthday presents for each other.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ์„œ๋กœ ์ƒ์ผ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์š”.
27:02
I'm hoping.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
27:03
I'm hoping I can put a stop to that one as well. Yes.
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๋‚˜๋„ ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ๋ง‰์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
27:06
So I think so.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
27:07
I think that's pretty pointless as well when you're in your sixties buying presents for people
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด 60๋Œ€์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•  ๋•Œ์—๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฝค ๋ฌด์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:14
because, you know, it's just
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฑด
27:16
maybe I'm just getting old and grumpy and Scrooge like Mr.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š™์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ฌ์ˆ ๊ถ‚์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์Šคํฌ๋ฃจ์ง€๊ฐ€ ๋˜์–ด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
27:20
Duncan.
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.
27:21
It's talking of which Scrooge,
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27:24
of course, Otherwise known as A Christmas Carol.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  Scrooge๊ฐ€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์บ๋กค๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ ธ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:27
There is a version of that on my YouTube
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๋‚ด YouTube
27:31
channel where I actually read the story.
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์ฑ„๋„์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ฝ์€ ๋ฒ„์ „์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:34
And next Sunday, Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ์—๋Š” Mr.
27:37
Steve will be using his professional acting voice to read.
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Steve๊ฐ€ ์ „๋ฌธ์ ์ธ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ์ฑ…์„ ์ฝ์„ ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:42
We will we will have some Christmas poems next week
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์—๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์‹œ๋ฅผ ๋ช‡ ํŽธ ๋‚ญ๋…ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •
27:45
and also we might read
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์ด๊ณ ,
27:48
a short excerpt from A Christmas Carol as well.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์บ๋กค์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ทŒํ•œ ์งง์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋„ ์ฝ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:52
So we we will be doing lots of Christmas things next week.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ผ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:56
I don't want to do it too much this week because then it will use all of that Christmas energy.
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์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ์—๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์†Œ๋ชจํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
28:03
So don't worry, we haven't forgotten about Christmas.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์žŠ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:06
We are in the mood for it, but we will do most of it next week. So.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•  ๊ธฐ๋ถ„ ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ.
28:12
So we are not using it all up.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:14
Big storms in Argentina.
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์•„๋ฅดํ—จํ‹ฐ๋‚˜์— ํฐ ํญํ’์ด ๋ชฐ์•„์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:17
Storms, Storms.
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ํญํ’, ํญํ’.
28:19
Yes, it's hot as well, according to Beatrice.
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๋„ค, ๋ฒ ์•„ํŠธ๋ฆฌ์ฒด์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋ฉด ๋‚ ์”จ๋„ ๋ฅ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:22
So Beatrice had a storm and Claudia said she had a storm as well.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Beatrice๋Š” ํญํ’์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ๊ณ  Claudia๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ํญํ’์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:27
Lots of rain, stormy weather.
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๋งŽ์€ ๋น„, ํญํ’์šฐ๊ฐ€ ์น˜๋Š” ๋‚ ์”จ.
28:29
We've had that.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:30
It's gone now, so we've sent it over to you.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์—†์–ด์ ธ์„œ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋“œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:33
Sorry about that.
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๋ฏธ์•ˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:35
Or are you sending it to us?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‚ด์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
28:38
So for a month, for a moment
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•œ ๋‹ฌ ๋™์•ˆ,
28:39
when you said storms in Argentina, I thought you meant politics.
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์•„๋ฅดํ—จํ‹ฐ๋‚˜์˜ ํญํ’์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ์„ ๋•Œ ์ €๋Š” ์ •์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹œ๋Š” ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:43
But that is another thing that as well.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:45
But we won't get into that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:46
Talking of which we will be discussing a little bit later
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ธ๋ฐ
28:51
on, we are going to talk all about things
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, ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
28:55
that you mustn't talk about.
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.
28:58
Isn't that strange?
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์ด์ƒํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
28:59
So we are going to talk about things that you are not supposed to talk about,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:03
which might sound it might sound a little bit confusing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค์†Œ ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:06
And to be honest, I think it is.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:08
But all will be revealed later on.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ฐํ˜€์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:11
Every week we try to talk about an English subject,
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๋งค์ฃผ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:14
maybe something that will get people chatting away on the live stream.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ฑ„ํŒ…์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
29:20
And don't forget, you are more than welcome to send your messages live as life can be.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ธ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ƒ์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ํ™˜์˜๋ฐ›์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:26
Christina says it is sunny in Italy, but it is freezing cold.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ดํƒˆ๋ฆฌ์•„๋Š” ๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ๋ง‘์ง€๋งŒ ์ถฅ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:30
We are having quite nice weather at the moment.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ๊ฝค ์ข‹์€ ํŽธ์ด์—์š”.
29:33
Shall we have a look outside the window?
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์ฐฝ๋ฐ–์„ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๊ตฌ๊ฒฝํ•ด ๋ณผ๊นŒ์š”?
29:35
It looks a bit dull outside, but it's not too bad.
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๊ฒ‰์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ข€ ์น™์น™ํ•ด ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๋‚˜์˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:40
At least it's not raining and it is quite mild.
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์ ์–ด๋„ ๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๊ฝค ์˜จํ™”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:43
We've had rather high temperatures.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ธฐ์˜จ์ด ๊ฝค ๋†’์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:46
Today is 12 Celsius.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์„ญ์”จ 12๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:48
Can you believe it? It's actually 12 Celsius.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์„ญ์”จ 12๋„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:51
It's dry, a lot of cloud around, but it does not.
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๊ฑด์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ๊ตฌ๋ฆ„์ด ๋งŽ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:57
I have to say it doesn't feel like Christmas.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”.
30:01
Well, I've been outside raking leaves off the lawn
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์ž”๋””๋ฐญ์˜ ๋‚˜๋ญ‡์žŽ์„ ๊ธ์–ด๋‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:06
because I
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋ญ‡์žŽ์ด
30:07
don't like to leave them on because they sort of
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30:11
accumulate into piles and then they rot the grass.
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๋”๋ฏธ๋กœ ์Œ“์ด๊ณ  ์ž”๋””๋ฅผ ์ฉ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜๋ญ‡์žŽ์„ ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋†”๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:15
So I've been taking the leaves off.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋ญ‡์žŽ์„ ๋–ผ์–ด๋ƒˆ์–ด์š”.
30:17
I've been repacking little bits of lawn that have died off.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฃฝ์€ ์ž”๋”” ์กฐ๊ฐ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํฌ์žฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
30:22
And it's been it was very pleasant.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:25
Mr. Duncan It certainly wasn't very wintry.
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Duncan ์”จ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ฒจ์šธ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
30:29
So I'm not getting much opportunity
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
30:31
to really test out my all season tyres, although can I just say, Steve, next week
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์˜ฌ ์‹œ์ฆŒ ํƒ€์ด์–ด๋ฅผ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ…Œ์ŠคํŠธํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์—๋Š”
30:38
it is going to get very cold and we might be getting
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๋งค์šฐ ์ถ”์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ 
30:44
some snow over Christmas.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์— ๋ˆˆ์ด ๋‚ด๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:47
Nothing official at the moment because you know what it's like.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ˜„์žฌ ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:51
It's very hard to predict.
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์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:52
SNOW So apparently it's one of the hardest things to predict if you are our weather forecaster.
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SNOW ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ผ๊ธฐ ์˜ˆ๋ณด๊ด€์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์˜ˆ์ธกํ•˜๊ธฐ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:58
But it looks as if we might be getting a little bit of snow next week.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์—๋Š” ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๋ˆˆ์ด ๋‚ด๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:01
And of course, everyone gets very crazy at this time of year
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก , ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ด๋ง˜๋•Œ๋ฉด
31:05
as to whether or not we will have snow at Christmas.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์— ๋ˆˆ์ด ์˜ฌ์ง€ ์•ˆ ์˜ฌ์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:08
So we will see.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:09
Also next week we will be showing you some of the Christmas cards.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์—๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์นด๋“œ๋„ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆด ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ฌํ•ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
31:13
We have had a lot of Christmas cards this year sent to us.
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๋งŽ์€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
31:18
So I suppose that is the alternative
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์„ ๋ฌผ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”
31:22
to gifts instead of gifts.
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.
31:26
I suppose you could also send a card or as an alternative,
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์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
31:31
you could send a card instead.
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๋Œ€์‹  ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:34
So I think that is actually a good idea.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:36
So we will be looking at some of the the cards that were sent to us as well.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ €ํฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‚ด์ฃผ์‹  ์นด๋“œ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก 
31:41
Different cultures, of course, to celebrate, celebrate different things.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋ฌธํ™”๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:45
And they, for example, Mustapha Abdallah,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋ฌด์Šคํƒ€ํŒŒ ์••๋‹ฌ๋ผ๋Š”
31:50
when they have feasts,
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31:52
which Christmas is a kind of a feast, isn't it, when you're eating lots of food. Yes.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ž”์น˜์ธ ์ž”์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์Œ์‹์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋จน์„ ๋•Œ์ฃ . ์˜ˆ.
31:57
They give each other money.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ค๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
32:00
You see that I like
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32:02
because then you can spend it on whatever you like when you give money.
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๋ˆ์„ ์ค„ ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:07
So that's interesting.
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ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ตฐ์š”.
32:08
So if you give money to somebody, do you expect money back?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋ฉด ๋ˆ์„ ๋Œ๋ ค๋ฐ›์„ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด,
32:13
It's like when you give a present to somebody, do you give when you're buying a present for somebody,
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ค„ ๋•Œ, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ด ๋•Œ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ด ๋•Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ
32:18
a friend, for example, would you like to try and spend
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32:22
the same amount of money on a present you give to them
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์ฃผ๋Š” ์„ ๋ฌผ์— ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธˆ์•ก์„ ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
32:25
that they would give to you?
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๋„ˆํ•œํ…Œ ์ค„๋ž˜? ๋‹น์‹ ์€
32:28
You wouldn't want to you wouldn't want to say spend
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32:32
ยฃ10 on a present to a friend
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์นœ๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ๋กœ ยฃ10๋ฅผ ์“ฐ๊ณ 
32:34
and then you receive a present that's worth ยฃ30.
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ยฃ30 ์ƒ๋‹น์˜ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:38
You would feel bad because they have spent more than you.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ง€์ถœํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
32:42
So what sort of do you set? Some rules.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์–ด๋–ค ์ข…๋ฅ˜๋กœ ์„ค์ •ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๊ทœ์น™.
32:45
So is that the same with giving money?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
32:49
Do you give money?
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๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋‚˜์š”?
32:50
Do any certain people give money or
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋‚˜์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด
32:54
do you expect the same amount back?
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๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธˆ์•ก์„ ๋Œ๋ ค๋ฐ›๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
32:56
How does that work?
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ž‘๋™ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
32:58
Because with presents you have to be able to judge what the other person may be.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์ด ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ธ์ง€ ํŒ๋‹จํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:04
You have to think about how good a friend they are,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€,
33:08
how much is it worth spending money on?
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์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ธ ๊ฐ€์น˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:11
You make these decisions when you buy presents for people
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ด ๋•Œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
33:14
is that if it's one of your best friends, you might spend more.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๋ฉด ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:17
But if it's just sort of somebody that's not such a good friend,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ข‹์€ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ
33:21
but you know, they're buying you one, you might only spend ยฃ10.
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์ค€๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ 10ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋งŒ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:24
I don't know.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:25
It's very difficult to make these decisions.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:27
Last year we received a present of a neighbour and it was quite clear
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์ž‘๋…„์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์›ƒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค
33:31
she'd spent a lot more on her gifts to us than we did to her.
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋ฐ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ผ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
33:36
So I'm going to have to make amends this year.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ฌํ•ด๋Š” ๋ณด์ƒ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
33:39
To make amends, I'm going to have to compensate
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๋ณด์ƒํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด ์ž‘๋…„์— ๋ˆ์„ ๋œ ์ผ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋‚ด ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๋ณด์ƒํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
33:43
in some of my own make up for the fact that I spent less last year.
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.
33:48
Well, this is it.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”.
33:50
Well, this is what I was saying earlier about the pressure that's involved this time of year.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•ž์„œ ์˜ฌํ•ด ์ด๋ง˜๋•Œ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์••๋ ฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:55
And of course, we often see money as being lazy.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๋ˆ์„ ๊ฒŒ์œผ๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
33:58
So if you give money to someone, it almost seems as if you can't be bothered to buy a gift.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•„๋„ ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:03
But if I was honest with you, I would rather maybe, maybe not.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:08
Not always in all the time, but maybe sometimes receive money
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
34:12
instead of an actual gift because the gift might not be useful.
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์„ ๋ฌผ์ด ์œ ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹ค์ œ ์„ ๋ฌผ ๋Œ€์‹  ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:16
However, as we all know, money
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋ˆ์€
34:20
always it's always very useful indeed.
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์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์šฉํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:24
Just depends on the cultural expectations.
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๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ฌธํ™”์  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:29
It's different, isn't it, in different cultures.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ถŒ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋“ฏ์ด
34:31
So in here in the UK, in the in the
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์˜๊ตญ,
34:35
in the Europe and America, it's all very commercial, as we know.
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์œ ๋Ÿฝ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋งค์šฐ ์ƒ์—…์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
34:40
We've discussed this before.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด์ „์— ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:41
It's all it's all to boost the profits of companies.
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๊ธฐ์—…์˜ ์ด์ต์„ ์ฆ๋Œ€์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:45
It's not really what the traditional Christmas is about.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:49
Yes, but we won't get into that. We'll talk about that.
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์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
34:52
To be honest, Steve, I don't know what the traditional Christmas is because
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์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
34:56
there was never really a traditional Christmas because it's always evolved.
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์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ง„ํ™”ํ•ด ์™”๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:00
So I suppose that is the bottom line with that is that there's never really been
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ „ํ†ต์ ์ธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์กด์žฌํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒฐ๋ก ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:05
a traditional Christmas because it's always changed
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35:08
in the commercial side of it has expanded yesterday.
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์–ด์ œ ํ™•์žฅ๋œ ์ƒ์—…์  ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฐ”๋€Œ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:12
I mean. Yes, I know, I know.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€. ๋„ค, ์•Œ์•„์š”, ์•Œ์•„์š”.
35:14
Before it used to be obviously celebrating
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋„๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์—๋Š”
35:18
Christ, you know, well after the birth.
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, ํƒ„์ƒ ์ดํ›„์— ๋ง์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:21
And then you would families would get together, there'd be events
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ชจ์ด๊ณ ,
35:25
in the church, you would have meals.
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๊ตํšŒ์—์„œ ํ–‰์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:29
And I don't know if they used to exchange gifts, say, 300 years ago.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  300๋…„ ์ „์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:34
I don't know. No, I don't think.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
35:35
Well, it's all a mixture.
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์Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํ˜ผํ•ฉ๋ฌผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณด๋ฉด
35:37
Christmas isn't Christmas, really, when you think about it.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
35:39
It is a mixture of lots of different beliefs, festivals.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์‹ ์•™๊ณผ ์ถ•์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ˜ผํ•ฉ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:44
So to be honest with
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์„œ
35:45
you, we should be celebrating Christmas in the middle of summer
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•œ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์— ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ถ•ํ•˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:49
because that is technically when Christmas actually is.
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๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
35:53
But it was moved to a neu all of the pagans
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
35:57
who of course were worshipping other things, including
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36:02
certain groups who worshipped tree.
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๋‚˜๋ฌด๋ฅผ ์ˆญ๋ฐฐํ•˜๋Š” ํŠน์ • ์ง‘๋‹จ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•˜์—ฌ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ˆญ๋ฐฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ์ด๊ต๋„๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋‰ด๋กœ ์˜ฎ๊ฒจ์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:06
And that is how the Christmas tree
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ํŠธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
36:09
became part of the Christmas celebrations.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ถ•ํ•˜ ํ–‰์‚ฌ์˜ ์ผ๋ถ€๊ฐ€ ๋œ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:12
So it is really a little bit of a combination of lots of different things anyway.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์˜ ์กฐํ•ฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:17
And I suppose the gifts are representing the
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด
36:21
the gifts given by the three Kings
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์„ธ ์™•์ด ์ค€ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋Œ€ํ‘œํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ
36:24
and and it's all it's all slowly built up over time.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚จ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ์Œ“์ด๋Š” ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:28
And of course, nowadays, well, even when we were kids, to be honest,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก , ์š”์ฆ˜์€, ์Œ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ์—๋„, ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ,
36:32
in the 1970s, we are going back a long time.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 1970๋…„๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ฝค ์˜ค๋ž˜์ „์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
36:37
Even back then it was, I suppose
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๋„
36:40
you would say that it was commercially, it was all about buying gifts.
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์ƒ์—…์ ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ •๋„์˜€์„ ํ…๋ฐ์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ
36:43
Olga By the way, says, My
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์˜ฌ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
36:47
my grandmother or mother says she she gives,
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ํ• ๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
36:53
We're all the way, It's gone, disappeared gifts.
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๋‹ค ์™”๋Š”๋ฐ, ์—†์–ด์กŒ์–ด, ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง„ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์ค€๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
36:57
my mother in law always presents money to my kids and she doesn't know what to get.
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์‹œ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์„ ๋ฌผํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:02
So that's another reason for giving money because you don't really know what to buy,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์‚ฌ์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:07
especially young people, because they're so they're so fussy nowadays.
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ Š์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์š”์ฆ˜ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊นŒ๋‹ค๋กญ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:11
But there is a lot of pressure when my my mother told me when she grew up,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ
37:16
they just used to get an orange or a pair or some nuts.
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์˜ค๋ Œ์ง€๋‚˜ ํ•œ ์Œ, ๊ฒฌ๊ณผ๋ฅ˜๋งŒ ์‚ฌ์˜ค์…จ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ์ด ์ปธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:21
Yeah, that.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ.
37:22
That was it.
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๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์˜€๋‹ค.
37:23
Yeah.
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37:23
You didn't get anything else. Imagine that. Now imagine.
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์‘.
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ƒ์ƒ ํ•ด๋ด. ์ด์ œ ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
37:27
Imagine your children.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
37:28
And for Christmas, they wake up and you just give them
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์—๋Š” ์ž ์—์„œ ๊นจ์–ด๋‚˜
37:31
an orange or a bag of nuts.
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์˜ค๋ Œ์ง€๋‚˜ ๊ฒฌ๊ณผ๋ฅ˜ ํ•œ ๋ด‰์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:35
But that's all you know, that's even.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„๋Š” ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:37
So we're going back, obviously, sort of 80 years.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ 80๋…„ ์ „์œผ๋กœ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:41
So the expectations,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
37:44
spending money and
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37:45
gifts even 80 years ago was a lot less.
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80๋…„ ์ „์—๋„ ๋ˆ๊ณผ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€๋Š” ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:49
Yeah.
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37:49
And it's all as we know.
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์‘.
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
37:51
It's also and every year it seems to get more and more.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋งค๋…„ ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์•„์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
37:54
I mean, this lady I was told we were talking about with 12 grandchildren,
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 12๋ช…์˜ ์†์ฃผ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ์ด ์—ฌ์ธ์€
37:59
she said that she's got to spend at least ยฃ50 on each one.
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ํ•œ ๋ช…๋‹น ์ ์–ด๋„ 50ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์จ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:04
You know, that that's what, โ‚ฌ55, something like that.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ โ‚ฌ55 ์ •๋„์ฃ .
38:08
So that's a lot of money.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:10
If you've got 12 and you're you know, your main job
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด 12๊ฐœ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ฃผ๋œ ์ง์—…์ด
38:14
is working in a checkout,
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๊ณ„์‚ฐ๋Œ€์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด,
38:17
you know, you're not on you're only on minimum wage, Right.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ตœ์ € ์ž„๊ธˆ๋งŒ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:20
So although can I just say, Steve, if you work in retail, you get very big bonuses at Christmas.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์†Œ๋งค์—…์— ์ข…์‚ฌํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์— ์•„์ฃผ ํฐ ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
38:27
As I remember from my time working in retail.
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์†Œ๋งค์—…์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ๋˜ ์‹œ์ ˆ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:30
Can I say hello to Patrick?
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ํŒจํŠธ๋ฆญ์—๊ฒŒ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
38:32
A nice family meal for Christmas Eve is the best present for me.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ์— ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ฐ€์กฑ ์‹์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ๋ฌผ์ด๋‹ค.
38:37
Yes, I think so.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
38:38
I think food, to be honest with you,
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์Œ์‹์ด ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด
38:41
I think as you get older, food becomes more of a thing.
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๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ์Œ์‹์ด ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
38:44
It becomes more important.
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๋”์šฑ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
38:46
I would even say that it is valuable
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๊ฐ€์น˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
38:50
to be honest.
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.
38:51
Thanks for that explanation.
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์„ค๋ช…ํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
38:53
Most of
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜
38:55
the money is normally given from parents and older
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๋ˆ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ถ€๋ชจ์™€ ๋‚˜์ด ๋งŽ์€
38:58
relatives to children.
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์นœ์ฒ™์ด ์ž๋…€์—๊ฒŒ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:01
Children.
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์–ด๋ฆฐ์ด๋“ค.
39:02
So which festival is that or which feast is that must offer?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ถ•์ œ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์ถ•์ œ ์ด๊ณ , ์–ด๋–ค ์ถ•์ œ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
39:06
Please tell us if you wish to,
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์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ง์”€ํ•ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
39:10
but yeah. No.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
39:12
My mother used to give me money because,
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์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋ˆ์„ ์ฃผ๊ณค ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:14
well, it's just easier when you get older.
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๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ์‰ฌ์›Œ์ง€๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
39:17
But she didn't really need to give me anything because, you know, what is it?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ค„ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ญ”๋ฐ์š”?
39:22
I mean, I've got everything I need.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:23
Really.
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์ •๋ง.
39:25
You've got me. How much do you need?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์žก์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
39:27
As you get older? You don't.
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๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก? ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:28
You don't need.
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ํ•„์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:29
Well, you don't need.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์–ด.
39:30
Well, the thing is, you accumulate things anyway.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์ถ•์ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:34
As you get older, as you get older, you buy things, you have things, you own things.
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๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฉด์„œ, ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ๊ณ , ์†Œ์œ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์†Œ์œ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:38
And so it becomes harder and harder to actually do that
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
39:43
or to to ask for something or to choose a gift for someone.
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ ์  ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ ์ 
39:47
I think it becomes harder.
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๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
39:48
Anyway, we are going to take a break in a moment because I need to drink
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์–ด์จŒ๋“ ,
39:53
some water to refresh my little throat.
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์ž‘์€ ๋ชฉ์„ ์ƒ์พŒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ฌผ์„ ์ข€ ๋งˆ์…”์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ž ์‹œ ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:56
We have a very interesting subject today.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
39:59
Things that you should not
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40:02
say, things you should not talk about, and also things
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๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ, ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
40:07
you should probably avoid talking about as well.
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๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:12
And there are many subjects and that is what we are talking about a little bit later on.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์ฃผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
40:18
But as we take a little break,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ž ์‹œ ์‰ฌ๋ฉด์„œ
40:20
I am going to let you enjoy the sights of the cute
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๊ท€์—ฝ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์†Œ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๊ฐ์ƒํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
40:25
and lovely cows.
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. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์˜๊ตญ์˜
42:52
This is English addict
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42:54
on a Sunday afternoon here in the UK and it's myself and Mr.
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์–ด๋Š ์ผ์š”์ผ ์˜คํ›„์— ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €์™€
42:58
Steve.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
42:59
We will be keeping you company for about another 45 minutes.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•ž์œผ๋กœ ์•ฝ 45๋ถ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:04
Don't go away. Now.
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๋– ๋‚˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ.
43:23
Yes, we are.
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๋„ค, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”.
43:24
Here it is myself and of course,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ฌผ๋ก 
43:27
there he is, my partner in crime. Mr.
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์ €๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋ฒ”์ฃ„์˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ์ธ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:31
Steves, keeping an eye on the live chat today.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์‹ค์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์„ ์ง€์ผœ๋ด์ฃผ์„ธ์š”.
43:37
I believe it's quite busy because a lot of people want to say hello to each other.
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ ์ธ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ด์„œ ๊ฝค ๋ฐ”์œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
43:42
That's one of the things I love about the live stream is it gives a chance
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
43:47
for everyone to actually talk to each other and chat
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์„œ๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฑ„ํŒ…
43:50
and and exchange ideas.
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ์•„์ด๋””์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ตํ™˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
43:53
And I love it. I think it's great.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
43:55
I have to say I do quite like the new layout of the studio.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋ ˆ์ด์•„์›ƒ์ด ๊ฝค ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:00
I think. Mr.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”.
44:01
Steve, I can't remember the last time I saw you look so,
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ทธํ† ๋ก ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฐจ๋ถ„ํ•œ ๋ชจ์Šต์„ ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ ๋ณธ ๊ฒŒ ์–ธ์ œ์ธ์ง€ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
44:06
so relaxed and calm.
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.
44:10
To be honest, I'm fine.
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์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค.
44:12
I'm fine here, Mr.
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์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค,
44:13
Duncan.
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44:13
It's quite hot and I can smell today's
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ๊ฝค ๋”์›Œ์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜
44:17
dinner cooking.
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์ €๋… ์š”๋ฆฌ ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
44:21
Yes, We're
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๋„ค,
44:22
having a chilli beef tonight, if you're interested,
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์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐค์—๋Š” ์น ๋ฆฌ ์‡ ๊ณ ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋จน์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”.
44:26
but yes,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค,
44:28
it's fine.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:29
I'm fine, Mr. Duncan. Absolutely fine. Good.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ข‹์€.
44:32
By the way, if you like this, please give as I like to show that you care.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:37
Thank you very much.
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:38
That would be ever so nice if you could give us a like.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์•„์š”๋ฅผ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:41
And then YouTube might actually let someone
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด YouTube๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
44:45
find my content that would be ever so nice.
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๋‚ด ์ฝ˜ํ…์ธ ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:48
We are with you next Sunday.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ์— ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:50
Nothing is different for those wondering.
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๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ณ„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:52
We are with you next Sunday on Christmas Eve.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
44:57
So I thought it would be interesting to have a look at a subject.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:01
It's a big subject.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํฐ ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:03
So I should warn everyone that this is quite a big subject
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฝค ํฐ ์ฃผ์ œ
45:06
and it's one that I think is is pretty interesting
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์ด๊ณ 
45:11
things in daily conversation, things in daily life
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์ผ์ƒ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ๊ฝค ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ, ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ
45:16
that you should not talk about or say.
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:21
And of course, moments of time
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๋ฌผ๋ก ,
45:24
when we do say the wrong thing or maybe we make a mistake
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
45:29
when we are talking, maybe we mention something that we shouldn't.
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๋Œ€ํ™” ์ค‘์— ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋  ๋ง์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:33
So that is what we are talking about today.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:38
We might say that the subject could be entitled
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๋ฌผ๋ก 
45:43
Mind Your Language,
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45:47
which of course is also a famous television programme.
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์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ํ…”๋ ˆ๋น„์ „ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ์˜ ์ œ๋ชฉ์„ Mind Your Language๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:50
So today we are talking about things.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:53
You say things you might say, things you should not say.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ง, ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๋ง์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
45:59
And there are you might be surprised, Steve,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ,
46:03
at how many things there are
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46:06
that you should avoid saying, especially at the moment.
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์—๋Š” ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๋ง์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๋†€๋ž„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:11
Now, have you noticed, Steve, people have become
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์ž, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
46:16
a little bit more sensitive about the things we say?
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข€ ๋” ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•ด์กŒ์Œ์„ ๋ˆˆ์น˜์ฑ„์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
46:21
Yes. I mean, traditionally people,
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์˜ˆ. ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ „ํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
46:25
you know, the common things that people say, yeah,
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ํ”ํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์˜ˆ,
46:29
we're talking about sort of in sort of general what you call polite conversation.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์†Œ์œ„ ์ •์ค‘ํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
46:35
Yes. Maybe with strangers or people
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์˜ˆ. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‚ฏ์„  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‚˜ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
46:38
you don't know very well.
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.
46:41
Obviously, you there are certain friends that you might have
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
46:44
or family members that you can talk to about anything. Yes.
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๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํŠน์ • ์นœ๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
46:49
But even then, you have to be careful.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋•Œ์—๋„ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:51
Yes. Or you might there are certain.
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์˜ˆ. ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ํ™•์‹คํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
46:54
Let's put it another way.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ด๋ณด์ž.
46:55
We all have friends or people that we know where
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
47:01
you can almost say, because you know each other,
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. ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
47:05
you can probably almost say anything.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ง์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:07
But there's always going to be a limit somewhere.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋”˜๊ฐ€์—๋Š” ํ•œ๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋งˆ๋ จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:11
And in sort of maybe the office
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์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ
47:14
having conversations with people, work, colleagues,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ, ์ง์žฅ, ๋™๋ฃŒ์™€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ์ฃผ์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• 
47:17
then there are certain subjects that you've got to be careful about because,
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ํŠน์ • ์ฃผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:22
well, one, there might upset people, particularly if you don't know their views,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํŠนํžˆ ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์˜ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ,
47:26
they could be opposite views to you or you might actually get yourself into trouble.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์„ ๊ณค๊ฒฝ์— ๋น ๋œจ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:31
Well, these days, I think these days people are more sensitive.
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๋ญ, ์š”์ฆ˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋” ์˜ˆ๋ฏผํ•ด์ง„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
47:35
So even if you know the people very well, even a friend or a work colleague or even a relation,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋น„๋ก ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•„์ฃผ ์ž˜ ์•ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๋ผ๋„, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ์ง์žฅ ๋™๋ฃŒ, ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์นœ์ฒ™,
47:41
someone in your family, it is easy these days to upset them.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ ์ค‘ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ผ๋„ ์š”์ฆ˜์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:46
So that's what we're going to talk about today.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋‚ด์šฉ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
47:48
Mind your language.
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๋ง์กฐ์‹ฌ ํ•ด.
47:52
Here's another phrase that we often use when we are telling a person to be careful.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ์ž์ฃผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ‘œํ˜„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
47:57
We ask them to choose your words carefully.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋„๋ก ์š”์ฒญํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:03
And I think this is a very good guide
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋‚˜ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฐ€์ด๋“œ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
48:07
for anyone, no matter what the language is
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.
48:11
that you speak, you can choose your words carefully.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ , ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์„ ํƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:15
I think sometimes people don't think Steve, before they speak.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋ฅผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋” ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
48:21
No, I mean, I'm like that.
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‹ค.
48:23
I tend to drop my foot in it or put my foot in it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์•ˆ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋‹ด๊ทธ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:27
Rather, if you put your foot in it,
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์˜คํžˆ๋ ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐœ์„ ๋„ฃ์œผ๋ฉด
48:31
then it means you said something
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48:33
that is upsetting, probably unintentionally.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์˜๋„์น˜ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ์†์ƒํ•œ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:39
I've put my foot in it there.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋‹ด๊ฐ”๋‹ค.
48:41
You might reveal something in a conversation
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๋Œ€ํ™” ์ค‘์— ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•˜๋ฉด
48:44
to somebody that that was not supposed to be revealed.
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์•ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:48
Some of you might be with some people.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:52
A friend of yours is getting married and they've told you he or she told you.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
48:58
And then you say, but you'll be getting married soon, won't you?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ ๋Š” ๊ณง ๊ฒฐํ˜ผํ•  ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
49:02
In a group of people.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๊ทธ๋ฃน์—์„œ.
49:03
And they get angry because they they didn't want anybody else to know.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:08
Or maybe somebody become pregnant and you reveal it.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์ž„์‹ ์„ ํ•˜์—ฌ ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:11
I've put my foot in it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋„ฃ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:13
It means you said something unintentionally that maybe
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์ด๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜๋„์น˜ ์•Š๊ฒŒ
49:17
upset somebody that's giving you a bit of information.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์—ฌ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:21
It's not quite the same thing, but but it's it's in the same place.
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ™์€ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:26
But I think I think what we are maybe concentrating on
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„
49:30
also is offensive things.
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๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:33
Anything you say, you might just say something
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€
49:38
very casually to you as the speaker.
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ํ™”์ž๋กœ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์•„์ฃผ ์•„๋ฌด๋ ‡์ง€๋„ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:42
It might be very innocent, but if the person you are speaking to,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ˆœ์ง„ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์˜ˆ๋ฏผํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
49:47
it might be the worst thing they've ever heard because they they are so sensitive.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋“ค์–ด๋ณธ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ์ตœ์•…์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
49:52
So you do have to choose your words carefully.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์„ ํƒํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
49:58
Be careful what you say.
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๋ง์„ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
50:01
Now, this probably is an interesting warning because you have to be careful what you say.
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์ž, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:07
And I think this is something that a lot of people do suffer from.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:12
They might not be able to stop themselves.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ๋ฅผ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:15
What how would you describe that, Steve,
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒ ์–ด์š”,
50:18
if you if you had to make sure that you didn't
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
50:24
you didn't say the wrong thing or
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ํ‹€๋ฆฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”์ง€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด
50:26
you don't say the wrong thing, how would you describe that
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ํ‹€๋ฆฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์•„์ง ํ˜€๋ฅผ ๊นจ๋ฌผ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
50:30
to bite your tongue yet
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50:34
if you yes, sometimes
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€
50:38
you want to say something, but you realise
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ
50:42
sometimes you really want to say something or comment
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
50:45
about something, but something in your head is telling you
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๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผํ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ ์†์˜ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
50:49
maybe this isn't the best time or the place to say that particular thing.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ง€๊ธˆ์ด ๊ทธ ํŠน๋ณ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๋‚˜ ์žฅ์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. .
50:55
Or somebody might say to you, Don't say that.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ โ€œ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”โ€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
50:59
And then you might say, or somebody might say,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
51:02
Bite your tongue or you might say to yourself, I need to bite my tongue.
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ํ˜€๋ฅผ ๊นจ๋ฌผ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ํ˜€๋ฅผ ๊นจ๋ฌผ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:06
You're not literally biting your tongue.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ˜€๋ฅผ ๊นจ๋ฌด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:08
What you're doing is you're stopping yourself from talking.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์€ ๋ง์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:12
Are Because sometimes you want to say something.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋ง์ด ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:16
You imagine what it I mean, the
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€,
51:19
the things that tend to upset people commonly.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
51:22
Do you want me or you?
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๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
51:23
Well, we're going to talk about. I'm going to drink to that.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚œ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ค ๊ฑฐ์•ผ.
51:25
But yeah, so we're just talking about the way of expressing holding back.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ต์ œ๋ฅผ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:30
Sometimes you have to bite your is another one.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๋ ค์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:33
Bite your lip.
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์ž…์ˆ ์„ ๊นจ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ผ.
51:35
My leg.
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51:35
You're literally physically trying to stop yourself from
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๋‚ด ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ.
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ์œก์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
51:40
from talking.
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51:40
Giovanni makes an interesting comment this week.
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.
Giovanni๋Š” ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ์— ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋…ผํ‰์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:44
I learned a good expression about this.
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์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ข‹์€ ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:46
Taming the tongue.
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ํ˜€ ๊ธธ๋“ค์ด๊ธฐ.
51:48
Yes, Well, yeah, I haven't heard that one.
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์‘, ์‘, ์‘, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฑด ๋“ค์–ด๋ณธ ์  ์—†์–ด.
51:50
But if that's used to be used locally
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
51:54
where you are, everyone's got their own way of doing this.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋กœ์ปฌ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ์ž์‹ ๋งŒ์˜ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
51:57
Bite your tongue, bite your lip, taming the tongue or hold.
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ํ˜€๋ฅผ ๊นจ๋ฌผ๊ณ , ์ž…์ˆ ์„ ๊นจ๋ฌผ๊ณ , ํ˜€๋ฅผ ๊ธธ๋“ค์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถ™์žก์œผ์„ธ์š”.
52:02
Yes, that might be it just means to stop yourself
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€
52:06
from saying something inappropriate or training yourself not to.
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๋ถ€์ ์ ˆํ•œ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ›ˆ๋ จํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:12
Of course, politicians are very, very good at this.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ •์น˜์ธ๋“ค์€ ์ด ์ผ์— ์•„์ฃผ ์•„์ฃผ ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:16
Yeah, and people in the media
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์–ธ๋ก ์— ์ข…์‚ฌํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
52:19
have to have training to make sure that they don't upset people.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ํ›ˆ๋ จ์„ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:24
Well, I think it's also being able to I think in that situation also,
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋„
52:30
it's about answering questions or should I say,
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด
52:33
avoiding answering questions.
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๋Œ€๋‹ต์„ ํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:37
So that is that is one thing that politicians
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •์น˜์ธ๋“ค์ด
52:40
are often criticised for, that they're not very good at answering
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์ž์ฃผ ๋น„ํŒ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
52:45
or giving a straight answer, especially when the reply is either yes or no.
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ํŠนํžˆ ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด '์˜ˆ' ๋˜๋Š” '์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค'์ผ ๋•Œ ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:52
A lot of politicians do not like
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๋งŽ์€ ์ •์น˜์ธ๋“ค์€
52:55
answering questions with just yes or no.
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹จ์ง€ ์˜ˆ, ์•„๋‹ˆ์˜ค๋กœ๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
52:58
They like to talk for a long time and then slowly the person who asked the question
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ
53:04
has forgotten what the question was, and that is something that does happen.
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์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ ธ ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:08
Here's another one, Steve.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
53:10
Think before you speak.
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๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
53:14
And there are moments of time and I think
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
53:17
you've kind of mentioned that
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53:20
where you might not be able to hold past
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฐธ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
53:24
saying something.
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.
53:26
And I suppose the emotion that I'm talking about and I'm sure you know what the emotion is
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์ • ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ๊ทธ ๊ฐ์ •์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•„์‹ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:31
as well, Steve anger getting angry when we are angry.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ผ ๋•Œ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ์˜ ๋ถ„๋…ธ๋„ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:36
If we are fighting, if we are having an argument,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ง๋‹คํˆผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
53:40
You know, Steve, and I know that
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, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š”
53:43
sometimes we might say things that are hurtful
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
53:49
or mean or just rude.
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์‹ฌ์ˆ ๊ถ‚๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•œ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:53
And it does happen.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด
53:54
It does happen.
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์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
53:55
We do we we lose our temper and then suddenly we can't stop.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋ฉˆ์ถœ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:00
It's almost like it's almost like something is
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋””์•„๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ
54:04
like taking a cool counter for a bottle
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๋ณ‘์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‹œ์›ํ•œ ์นด์šดํ„ฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
54:10
Claudia mentions.
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.
54:12
And Louis followed up.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฃจ์ด๋„ ๋’ค๋ฅผ ๋”ฐ๋ž๋‹ค.
54:15
Claudia says Sometimes it's not what you say, but the way you say it.
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ํด๋ผ์šฐ๋””์•„๋Š” ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:20
Very good.
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๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€.
54:21
That's a nice sort of that's a very good thing to say, because
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ง์ธ๋ฐ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
54:26
sometimes the tone of your voice, which Louis mentions,
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋ฃจ์ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ํ†ค์€
54:30
I think you meant tone.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ†ค์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:33
Tony, would that would be spam, wouldn't it?
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Tony, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ŠคํŒธ์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
54:36
Sometimes the tone of your voice.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ํ†ค.
54:38
Sometimes I've got a tendency to be very sarcastic when I say things.
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๊ฐ€๋” ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
54:44
And that can annoy people sometimes.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์งœ์ฆ๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:47
Yeah, you can give this. You can give information.
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์‘, ์ด๊ฑฐ ์ค˜๋„ ๋ผ. ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
54:51
And depending on the way you say it
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹
54:53
or the words you use or the tone of your voice,
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์ด๋‚˜ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด, ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์˜ ํ†ค์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ
54:57
it can impact at two very different meaning.
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๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜๋ฏธ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ์ค„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:00
You can soften, can't you?
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๋ถ€๋“œ๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
55:02
The way you give information with the way that you say it, the tone that you use. Yes.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹, ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์–ด์กฐ๋กœ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹ . ์˜ˆ.
55:08
In your voice? Yes.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ? ์˜ˆ.
55:11
Yeah.
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55:11
Is that anger there in your voice As you say, something is the heightened emotion
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์‘.
๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ๊ทธ ๋ถ„๋…ธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ ์ด
55:17
because people respond to emotion.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ์ •์— ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ์ •์ด ๊ณ ์กฐ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:19
It's an automatic thing
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55:23
that if the if your tone is
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋งํˆฌ๊ฐ€
55:26
emotional, as you say things, then you will react.
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๊ฐ์ •์ ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ž๋™์ ์ธ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:30
You will tend to be more reactive to what they are saying and maybe take it the wrong way.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋” ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:36
And Marco,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ๋ฅด์ฝ” ์”จ,
55:40
thank you for your comment.
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:41
Thinks that British people tend to hold their tongues.
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์˜๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์ž…์„ ๋‹ค๋ฌผ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
55:45
Well, we are you are right, Marco,
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ง์ด ๋งž์•„์š”, ๋งˆ๋ฅด์ฝ”.
55:49
in that sort of traditionally
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์ „ํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ
55:52
you would think if a British person is reserved,
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์˜๊ตญ์ธ์ด ๋‚ด์„ฑ์ ์ด๊ณ 
55:56
you know, and measured in what they say in the way they say it.
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๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ‰๊ฐ€ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:00
But actually these days,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์š”์ฆ˜์€
56:03
that's far less than it used to be, I would say.
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์˜ˆ์ „์— ๋น„ํ•ด ๊ทธ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:08
And also different cultures.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธํ™”๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:12
Yeah, people tend to be
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์˜ˆ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด
56:15
maybe, maybe we are still like that generally,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„
56:19
but we are certainly less so than we used to.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์˜ˆ์ „๋ณด๋‹ค ๋œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:23
And I find as I get older, I tend to say more of what I think now
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„
56:30
rather than what I think people want to hear, which is another problem.
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:34
Sometimes you say if you're a people pleaser,
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๊ธฐ์˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
56:38
you sometimes say what you think people want to hear
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฏฟ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
56:42
rather than what you actually believe because you don't want to upset people sometimes. Yes.
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. ์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ๊ฑด
56:48
I think that's a that's a very good point.
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์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
56:50
I was I was listening to a very interesting interview a few days ago
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์ €๋Š” ๋ฉฐ์น  ์ „
56:54
with John Cleese, and he said the same thing as what you just said.
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John Cleese์™€์˜ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ธํ„ฐ๋ทฐ๋ฅผ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋„ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
56:59
He said, To be honest, as you get older,
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๊ทธ๋Š” โ€œ์†”์งํžˆ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก
57:02
you stop worrying about what people think.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹คโ€๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
57:05
And that quite often is reflected
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
57:08
in what you say and who you say it to.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ๊ณผ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฐ˜์˜๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:11
So maybe if you're younger and I think this is an interesting point
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋” ์ Š๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด
57:15
to make when you're younger, you're still trying
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋” ์ Š์„ ๋•Œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
57:18
to to make your way through life.
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.
57:21
You are still trying to influence people.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:24
Maybe you're trying to to build up your career
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์„ ์Œ“์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ธ์ƒ์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ณด๋‚ผ
57:28
or you're trying to attract a mate to spend your life with.
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๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ž๋ฅผ ๋Œ์–ด๋“ค์ด๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
57:32
But of course, as you get older, those things become less important
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌผ๋ก , ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ด์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:36
because maybe you've given up trying to find them or
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์ฐพ์œผ๋ ค๋Š” ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์„ ํฌ๊ธฐํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
57:41
you just don't care anymore.
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๋” ์ด์ƒ ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
57:43
You just think, what is the point?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์š”์ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
57:45
You can go through your life holding yourself back and not saying things
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57:51
when sometimes it is good to actually say them to express yourself.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ž์‹ ์„ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์„ ๋•Œ๋„ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์–ต์ œํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‚ด์•„๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
57:56
So I think you're right, Steve.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‹น์‹  ๋ง์ด ๋งž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
57:58
I think as you get older, you do.
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๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
58:01
You do often
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ข…์ข…
58:04
you don't sense to yourself so much.
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์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:09
Yes, it's unhealthy. Yes.
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์˜ˆ, ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ํ•ด๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ. ํ•œ๋ฒˆ
58:13
Let's have a look. yes.
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์‚ดํŽด๋ณด์ž. ์˜ˆ.
58:14
Valentine talking about sarcasm.
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๋ฐœ๋ Œํƒ€์ธ์€ ํ’์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:17
He thinks that's a British trait.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜๊ตญ์˜ ํŠน์„ฑ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:20
It may well be.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:21
Sarcasm is actually
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ํ’์ž๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
58:25
a way of saying it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด์„œ ์ž์‹ ์˜
58:28
It's a way of saying what you think
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์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
58:32
without being very aggressive.
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.
58:35
Because being sarcastic can be.
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๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:39
You're saying something about something you've actually being rude to somebody
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋น„๊ผฌ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ,
58:44
when you're being sarcastic and but that involves
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์ด๋Š”
58:48
you being it's an indirect way of insulting somebody. Yes.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์š•ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ„์ ‘์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํฌํ•จํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
58:53
I suppose without directly becoming it's an unemotional way.
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์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ์„œ๋Š” ๋น„๊ฐ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์•„๋‹๊นŒ ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
58:58
And you can you can say you can say something quite rude to somebody.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฝค ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•œ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:03
Yeah.
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์‘.
59:05
If you use
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59:06
sarcasm, they might punch you in the face if you said it directly to them.
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๋นˆ์ •๊ฑฐ๋ฆผ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ์ง์ ‘ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ผ๊ตด์— ์ฃผ๋จน์„ ๋‚ ๋ฆด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
59:11
Yeah, but if you say it sarcastically, it's almost that they can't react in the same way
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์‘, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์ผœ์•ผ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐ˜์‘์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค
59:17
because you need to switch on those emotions.
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.
59:21
If someone's shouting at you or accusing you of something
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ฅด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
59:25
directly, you get very defensive
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์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋น„๋‚œํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฐฉ์–ด์ ์ธ ์ž์„ธ๋ฅผ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ 
59:28
and then you start to fight back.
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๋ฐ˜๊ฒฉ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:31
But if somebody says sarcasm to you, I mean, obviously sarcasm can be upsetting,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ธ ๋ง์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์ œ ๋ง์€, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ๋Š” ์†์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜
59:36
but you don't tend to react in the same emotional way
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋ƒ‰์†Œํ•  ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฐ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:39
when somebody's sarcastic, you think that's it, okay.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:42
But the other thing, Steve, is I think sarcasm is a British thing.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋นˆ์ •๊ฑฐ๋ฆผ์€ ์˜๊ตญ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
59:48
And I think that that is a very good observation
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ด€์ฐฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ
59:52
and I think British people are very good at sarcasm.
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์˜๊ตญ์ธ๋“ค์€ ํ’์ž์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
59:56
We can do things and say things that are making
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
60:02
some sort of criticism
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60:05
without actually saying it directly.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ๋„ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋น„ํŒ์„ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:07
And I think that is that is one of the most
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
60:11
one of my favourite parts of communication.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:14
Using any language is sarcasm.
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์–ด๋–ค ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋“  ํ’์ž์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:17
And I think no one does sarcasm better than the British.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์˜๊ตญ์ธ๋ณด๋‹ค ํ’์ž๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
60:21
I know, I know.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•Œ์ง€.
60:23
I know.
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60:23
In the US people can be sarcastic, especially in certain areas.
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์•Œ์•„์š”.
๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ํŠนํžˆ ํŠน์ • ์ง€์—ญ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:28
New York City, apparently New Yorkers
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๋‰ด์š•์‹œ, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋‰ด์š”์ปค๋“ค์€
60:32
can be quite sarcastic and abrupt and that is just their manner.
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๋งค์šฐ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ด๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋งค๋„ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:36
But I think the British, I think we are
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์ด
60:39
definitely top of the tree when it comes to sarcasm.
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ํ’์ž์— ์žˆ์–ด์„œ๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ตœ๊ณ ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:45
We are pretty good at it. I think so.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ฝค ๋Šฅ์ˆ™ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
60:48
I think it's safe to say, here's one, Steve, another phrase, and I like this one.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ Steve๋ผ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ €๋Š” ์ด ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
60:54
This is one that I used to use to myself
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€
60:57
many years ago to stop me from saying the wrong thing.
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์ˆ˜๋…„ ์ „์— ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋„๋ก ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:03
The less you say, the more you hear.
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์ ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:07
And I think this is a problem with some people.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:11
Sometimes people talk too much instead of listening to what other people have to say.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ๋ง์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
61:18
What do you think?
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
61:21
Yes, yes, yes.
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์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ.
61:24
I mean, this is something
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€
61:26
where I mean, I've been in sales
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61:29
most of my life and one of the main things that you are taught
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๋‚ด ์ธ์ƒ์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ํŒ๋งค์—…์— ์ข…์‚ฌํ•ด ์™”์œผ๋ฉฐ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฐฐ์šด ์ฃผ์š” ๋‚ด์šฉ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
61:33
is, is to is to what you should be doing
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61:36
is talking less than the customer.
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๊ณ ๊ฐ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋ง์„ ์ ๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:41
And I mean, this is a good thing to translate into everyday life, isn't it?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ๋กœ ๋ฒˆ์—ญํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ์•„๋‹Œ๊ฐ€?
61:45
Because yes,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Š์ž„์—†์ด ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๋Š์ž„์—†์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š”
61:48
you know what it's like when you meet somebody
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ๋•Œ ์–ด๋–ค ๋Š๋‚Œ์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
61:50
who is just constantly telling you, talking about themselves all the time.
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.
61:54
You haven't asked for that information, but they start to tell you about, I went on holiday here.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ฌป์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
61:59
I've just bought this for myself, blah, blah, blah.
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๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ด๊ฑธ ์ƒ€์–ด์š”, ์–ด์ฉŒ๊ณ  ์ €์ฉŒ๊ณ .
62:01
And you just think, Well,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ '๊ธ€์Ž„,
62:03
why do you think I'm actually interested?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๊ฐ€?'๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:05
If I'm interested enough in you, I will ask you those questions.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ• ๊ฒŒ์š”.
62:10
And so I think that's a good way to be, actually.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:15
But then, yeah, it's you.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋„ˆ์•ผ.
62:19
You, you pick up more information.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:21
If you're not talking, you pick up information about other people. Yes.
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๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
62:25
And about situations and that that's just social skill.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:30
I think it's knowing when to stop speaking and when to listen.
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์–ธ์ œ ๋ง์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถฐ์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ , ์–ธ์ œ ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
62:34
And as we often talk about when we're talking about learning
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์ž์ฃผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ
62:38
English, you have to learn to listen.
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, ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:41
And I think in general, day to day life, quite often
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ
62:45
the less you say or if you know when to stop
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๋ง์„ ์ ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ง์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถฐ์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
62:48
speaking, you can listen to what other people have to say.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๊ฝค ๋งŽ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
62:52
And you are right, Steve.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹  ๋ง์ด ๋งž์•„์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
62:53
We have had situations where we've been with someone
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
62:58
and they won't stop talking about themselves and sometimes
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์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
63:01
they will just go on for maybe an hour.
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ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๊ณ„์†๋˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:04
We've had some really weird moments of time I'm not going to say who, don't worry.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„๋“ค์„ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€๋Š” ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
63:11
But some people that we know and they just talk about themselves
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:17
over and over yes, they they they pay no attention
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
63:23
to you as an individual.
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๊ฐœ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:25
You can pick that up very quickly.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งค์šฐ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์„ ํƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:26
Catarina mentions this.
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Catarina๋Š” ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:29
That can happen when
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63:31
somebody just talks over you,
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์„ ๊ฑธ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:34
You're having a conversation and then
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ
63:38
you might be saying something.
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
63:39
I've got a friend like this, actually. Yeah.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”. ์‘.
63:42
And and you get into a conversation and you'll start saying something
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์„œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
63:48
and then there reply will be nothing to do with what you've just been talking about.
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋งํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ๊ณผ ์•„๋ฌด ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๋Œ€๋‹ต์ด ๋‚˜์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
63:54
It'll just be something to do with them and you think and it's quite obvious
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด
63:58
they'd not listen to a word you say and, and they.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:03
Or they might just interrupt you and talk over you. Yes.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
64:06
And that's, that's when you're particularly when you're in sales, that's very difficult.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํŠนํžˆ ํŒ๋งค ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:11
That's a very easy thing for a salesperson to do, is to talk over the customer
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์˜์—…์‚ฌ์›์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฌ์šด ์ผ์€ ๊ณ ๊ฐ์—๊ฒŒ ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ
64:16
because you want to get your messages across
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๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ
64:20
to the customer about your product, but you're not willing
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์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณ ๊ฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:25
you know, what you should be doing is listening.
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ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์€ ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:27
what do they want?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
64:29
What you know, what things will turn them on about this product or not even?
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด ์ œํ’ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ค ์ ์ด ๊ณ ๊ฐ์˜ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋Œ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€?
64:33
Yes, actually, sales is a very interesting point
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๋„ค, ์‚ฌ์‹ค ์˜์—…์€ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:37
because that is that is to me, a skill.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:41
It is a skill.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด๋‹ค. ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋„๋ก ์„ค๋“ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์˜์—… ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ
64:42
It isn't just something that you can walk into selling sales calls
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ํŒ๋งคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
64:48
to persuade another person to to think about something, not necessarily buy it,
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๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๊ตฌ๋งคํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
64:53
but to at least think about the thing that you are promoting or offering.
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์ ์–ด๋„ ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ํ™๋ณดํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋„๋ก ์„ค๋“ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:00
And I think it is I think I think selling or any area of sales where you're
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ํŒ๋งค ๋‚˜ ํŒ๋งค ์˜์—ญ์ด
65:05
you're dealing directly with another person, let's face it.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ง์ ‘ ๊ฑฐ๋ž˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
65:09
And it's a massive skill.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:11
People I mean, just in everyday life to to meet somebody
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ผ์ƒ ์ƒํ™œ์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ
65:17
who you're in a conversation with them
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๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ 
65:20
and they're actually listening to what you say. Yes.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
65:23
And then they respond with relevant question as to what you've just said.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ์‘๋‹ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
65:29
You know, they might ask another question which asks for a bit more information.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ข€ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์š”๊ตฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:33
And that's quite a skill to listen, is quite a skill.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฒฝ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:36
It's Very easy to switch off.
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๋„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:38
They're talking and you're thinking about the next thing you want to say
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค์Œ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
65:43
and it's, you know, when somebody is doing it to you. So
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, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ง“์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
65:49
it's a skill that we all have to learn a social skill
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:53
because if you if you couldn't master that,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ˆ™๋‹ฌํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
65:57
you know, you'll you'll be invited out everywhere.
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์€ ์–ด๋””์—์„œ๋‚˜ ์ดˆ๋Œ€๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
65:59
Friends are want you because.
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:02
hey, someone to listen to me I mean it can't get I mean it can get boring
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์ด๋ด, ๋‚ด ๋ง ์ข€ ๋“ค์–ด์ค„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€,
66:05
if you just have to keep listening to other people's boring stories about their holidays or whatever.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ํœด์ผ์ด๋‚˜ ๋ญ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ง€๋ฃจํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ๋“ค์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋ฃจํ•ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ด์•ผ.
66:11
Yeah, well, all that gardening, it's got to be two way.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ •์› ๊ฐ€๊พธ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์–‘๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์ด์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:15
But yes, to listen to somebody and understand them
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์ดํ•ดํ•œ
66:19
and then reply back with a relevant question that shows that you've actually listened to.
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๋‹ค์Œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ด€๋ จ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ต์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
66:26
Yeah, that gained you a lot of respect.
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์‘, ๊ทธ ์ผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งŽ์€ ์กด๊ฒฝ์„ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋์–ด์š”.
66:29
Here's, here's another one, Steve.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
66:30
I like this one.
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๋‚œ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์•„.
66:31
So here's another interesting phrase.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:34
If you have nothing to say, say nothing.
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ํ•  ๋ง์ด ์—†์œผ๋ฉด ์•„๋ฌด ๋ง๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
66:40
And sometimes
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
66:42
to be honest, I like
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์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š”
66:46
peace and quiet.
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ํ‰ํ™”๋กญ๊ณ  ์กฐ์šฉํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:47
If I'm with someone and we've had situations like this, I'm not going to say who, don't worry.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
66:53
But we've been with people who just won't stop talking.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
66:56
They have to constantly fill the air with conversation.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋Š์ž„์—†์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋กœ ๋ถ„์œ„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ฑ„์›Œ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:01
Yeah, and sometimes it is nice and we're going to try this now, Steve,
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๋„ค, ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ์ข‹์„ ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด๊ฑธ ํ•ด๋ณผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
67:06
let's try not to speak for about 10 seconds
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10์ดˆ ์ •๋„ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋ฉด
67:10
and you will suddenly feel
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ
67:13
as if there is a little bit of space.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๋‚„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:15
So you don't need to constantly talk.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋Š์ž„์—†์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:19
And I know this is an English
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜์–ด
67:23
teaching live stream, but sometimes.
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๊ต์œก ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ฆผ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€๋”์€์š”.
67:26
Steve, don't you think let's do it now.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ•ด๋ณด์ž๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ˆ?
67:29
Let's have 10 seconds of silence.
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10์ดˆ๊ฐ„ ์นจ๋ฌต์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–์ž.
67:48
I have to say I enjoyed that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒผ๋‹ค ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:50
It's very difficult.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์š”.
67:52
It depends on if you're a social person or not.
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์‚ฌํšŒ์ธ์ด๋ƒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ƒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:55
If you're a very social person you would like to chat a lot and talk a lot.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์‚ฌ๊ต์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
67:59
But you're right, it can be very exhausting
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹  ๋ง์ด ๋งž์•„์š”.
68:02
if you are used to your own company and then you go somewhere
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์กŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€
68:08
where there's lots of people, lots of people talking chat, chat, chat, chit chat.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์€ ๊ณณ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์ฑ„ํŒ…, ์ฑ„ํŒ…, ์ฑ„ํŒ…, ์žก๋‹ด์„ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์ง€์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:13
It can be quite stressful.
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๊ฝค ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:14
I do find it quite stressful sometimes when I go out with my work colleagues, we all meet up
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์ง์žฅ ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์™ธ์ถœํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ฐ€๋” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋ฐ, ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ
68:20
and everyone's talking and chatting away and it can become a bit exhausting after a while.
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์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์ˆ˜๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๋–จ๋‹ค ๊ฐ€ ์ž ์‹œ ํ›„ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์ง€์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:26
So I have to make a little I have to escape.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์กฐ๊ธˆ์ด๋ผ๋„ ๋ฒŒ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ํƒˆ์ถœํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”.
68:30
That's what smokers do.
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ํก์—ฐ์ž๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
68:31
You know, smokers, I think, is their excuse.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ํก์—ฐ์ž๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ณ€๋ช…์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:35
Get away from the company of people and go outside just to chill out.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์„œ ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
68:41
And then they come back in the room. Revived, I think.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ถ€ํ™œํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
68:44
I think the smoking is actually just an excuse.
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ํก์—ฐ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ํ•‘๊ณ„์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
68:47
I'm a I need to go outside for smoke.
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์ €๋Š” ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ํ”ผ์šฐ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฐ–์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:50
I think actually what you are doing is using that as an excuse
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„
68:54
just to escape from everybody in the room, which is a very good thing to do.
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๋ฐฉ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ํƒˆ์ถœํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ํ•‘๊ณ„๋กœ ์‚ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
68:59
Yeah, it's a good theory.
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๋„ค, ์ข‹์€ ์ด๋ก ์ด์—์š”.
69:00
Maybe I could pretend to be a smoker.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ํก์—ฐ์ž ์ธ ์ฒ™ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:03
Yes, Just. Well, I tell you what you can do.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:05
You can. You can take it vaping.
995
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2019
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒ ์ดํ•‘ํ•ด์„œ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๊ฐ€์‹œ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:07
But just don't. Just don't do it.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
69:09
Just take the the machine and just pretend to vape.
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๊ธฐ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋ฒ ์ดํ•‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฒ™์„ ํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
69:14
You see,
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
69:17
so you can get away from other people.
999
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:19
Yeah, I would imagine if they were outside talking, Steve,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ–์—์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ,
69:22
they would be smoking and talking so it might be actually worse.
1001
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ด๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ํ”ผ์šฐ๋ฉฐ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋” ๋‚˜์  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค.
69:26
But, but yes, if you, if you have nothing to say,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•  ๋ง์ด ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด
69:30
sometimes silence can be very refreshing.
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์นจ๋ฌต์ด ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ƒ์พŒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:35
Or as Patrick puts it, which is a well-known phrase.
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๋˜๋Š” ํŒจํŠธ๋ฆญ์ด ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ์ด๋Š” ์ž˜ ์•Œ๋ ค์ง„ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:38
So thank you for that. Silence is golden.
1005
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์นจ๋ฌต์€ ๊ธˆ์ด๋‹ค.
69:41
That is a phrase that is often used.
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์ž์ฃผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:44
Silence is gold or golden. Yes,
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์นจ๋ฌต์€ ๊ธˆ ๋˜๋Š” ํ™ฉ๊ธˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค,
69:48
because sometimes it is just nice to have
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
69:51
a bit of peace and quiet.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ํ‰ํ™”๋กœ์›€๊ณผ ๊ณ ์š”ํ•จ์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:54
And, you know, it's just of you when you're eating.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‹์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
69:59
I don't know.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:00
I don't know. Maybe everyone's different.
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:02
Yes. Thanks.
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์˜ˆ. ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ด์š”.
70:03
By The way I forgot to mention.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:05
And it was a comment from
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์˜ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ
70:10
Who is it from?
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70:10
I can't remember now. Francesca.
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?
์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด.
70:13
Francesca said that sarcasm is in every language.
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ํ”„๋ž€์ฒด์Šค์นด๋Š” ํ’์ž๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์–ธ์–ด์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:17
Yes, I'm. It is. Yes.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€. ์˜ˆ.
70:20
And. But would you.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด๊นŒ์š”?
70:21
Would you recognise it. Maybe. Yeah.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์•„๋งˆ๋„. ์‘.
70:24
It's probably in every,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ชจ๋“ ,
70:25
in every language but it's a, it's a, it's passive aggressive
1023
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๋ชจ๋“  ์–ธ์–ด์— ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
70:29
form of, of making, making
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70:35
a comment about something you might not necessarily want to say directly to somebody.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ง์ ‘ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋™์  ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์  ํ˜•ํƒœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:39
It is I suppose.
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค.
70:41
I suppose it is subtle criticism.
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๋ฏธ๋ฌ˜ํ•œ ๋น„ํŒ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
70:45
Yes. That would be my way of if I had to describe
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์˜ˆ. ํ’์ž๋‚˜ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋น„ํŒ์„ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ๋ฐฉ์‹์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค
70:48
sarcasm, social criticism.
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.
70:52
You are doing something gently. You are.
1030
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ถ€๋“œ๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€.
70:54
But I still say that the British are the best with sarcasm, that nobody does sarcasm.
1031
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์˜๊ตญ์ธ์ด ํ’์ž์— ์ตœ๊ณ ์ด๋ฉฐ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ๋„ ํ’์žํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
70:59
It's like the British.
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์˜๊ตญ์ธ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:01
It's a leakage of your feelings.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์˜ ๋ˆ„์ถœ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:03
You're You want to say something, You really want
1034
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€๋ฐ, ์ •๋ง๋กœ
71:07
to shout back at somebody or tell them they're an idiot or something like that.
1035
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ฅด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋ณด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
71:10
But of course, that's not a British way of doing it or your whatever your culture is.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋ฌผ๋ก , ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜๊ตญ์‹ ๋ฐฉ์‹๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๊ฐ„์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์˜ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:16
So you just say something sarcastic back to and it's what you're doing.
1037
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ธ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ดํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:20
Is it your real feelings are leaking out or you're trying or it's an ego thing
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์ง„์งœ ๊ฐ์ •์ด ์ƒˆ์–ด๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฑด์ง€, ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด์ง€, ์ž์กด์‹ฌ
71:25
Because I mean, it's a sarcastic comment to somebody can be the most
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ์ง€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋น„๊ผฌ๋Š” ๋ง์€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ
71:31
cutting put down.
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์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฐ›๋Š” ๋ง์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
71:33
Yes, the most offensive, but said in a very subtle way, Yes.
1041
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์˜ˆ, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์  ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ต๋ฌ˜ํ•˜๊ฒŒ "์˜ˆ"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:38
It can really put somebody down. Yes.
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์ •๋ง ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์‹ค๋ง์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
71:42
And make them feel and look stupid if you do it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ”๋ณด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋Š๊ปด์ง€๊ณ  ๋ฐ”๋ณด์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด๋„๋ก ๋งŒ๋“œ์„ธ์š”.
71:45
And they often say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ข…์ข… ๋นˆ์ •๊ฑฐ๋ฆผ์ด ์žฌ์น˜์˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‚ฎ์€ ํ˜•ํƒœ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:49
Well, there are two expressions.
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์Œ, ๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ํ‘œํ˜„์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
71:51
The sarcasm and the SA tonic.
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ํ’์ž์™€ SA ๊ฐ•์žฅ์ œ.
71:53
Yeah, sardonic and sardonic.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ด๊ณ  ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ด์•ผ.
71:57
It was sarcasm. Is it?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ’์ž์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
71:58
You're saying something offensive, but sardonic.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด๋ฉด์„œ๋„ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ธ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:01
Is. Is it.
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์ด๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
72:03
I think it's the same thing.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:04
But it's not offensive. No, it's kind.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์นœ์ ˆํ•ด์š”.
72:06
Which you're being sarcastic.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:07
You are really trying to hurt somebody.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ƒ์ฒ˜๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:09
A dry response or
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๋ฌด๋ฏธ๊ฑด์กฐํ•œ ๋ฐ˜์‘์ด๋‚˜
72:13
a dry retort is sardonic.
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๋ฌด๋ฏธ๊ฑด์กฐํ•œ ๋ฐ˜๋ฐ•์€ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:17
Sarcasm is where you're actually putting the syntax into what you are saying.
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ํ’์ž๋ž€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์— ๊ตฌ๋ฌธ์„ ์ ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
72:21
I mean, they of course, the tone of it as well.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ ํ†ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
72:25
You are really trying to be offensive.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด ๋˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:27
Some people have a very dry sense of humour, another one, another expression,
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฌด๋ฏธ๊ฑด์กฐํ•œ ์œ ๋จธ ๊ฐ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ , ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ,
72:33
an empty vessel makes more noise.
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๋นˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆ‡์ด ๋” ์‹œ๋„๋Ÿฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‡Œ์—
72:37
A person who has nothing up
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์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
72:39
here in their brain will often talk a lot.
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์ข…์ข… ๋ง์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:43
And that's another expression, an empty vessel, something with nothing inside
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ‘œํ˜„, ๋นˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆ‡,
72:48
empty like a person's head.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์†์ด ๋น„์–ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:51
I'm Very sarcastic. I remember.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ด๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ด.
72:53
I must have always been sarcastic because.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ด์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
72:57
Because I find it difficult to say what I really thinking.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ต๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:00
So it leaks out in sarcasm.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋น„๊ผฌ๋Š” ๋ง์ด ํ˜๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:03
In conversations it can be quite nasty.
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๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ฝค ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:05
I remember once
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๋‚˜๋Š”
73:08
you don't realise sometimes you get into the habit of doing it.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊นจ๋‹ซ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ํ•˜๋Š” ์Šต๊ด€์— ๋น ์ง€๊ฒŒ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:12
And I remember in a one of my first jobs I must have been quite sarcastic in something.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฒซ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ๋•Œ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:18
And I remember once saying, That's it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. "๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์˜ˆ์š”."
73:21
I was given a promotion to a manager's role and
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋กœ ์Šน์ง„ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
73:27
the company I was working for weren't renowned for paying you particularly well.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋˜ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ๋†’์€ ๊ธ‰์—ฌ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:31
So they took me in and said, We want to make you a manager.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€์„œ ' ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ €๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค'๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:35
And I said, I don't suppose I'm going to get any more money,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ' ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ,
73:37
am I something sarcastic like that?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋น„๊ผฌ๋Š” ๋ง์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:42
And he said he said he looked at me and said,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋”๋‹ˆ
73:47
you know, you could get sacked for a comment like that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋Œ“๊ธ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฉด ํ•ด๊ณ ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋”๊ตฐ์š”.
73:49
She said, I'm giving you a promotion and you're being sarcastic.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” '๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์Šน์ง„์„ ์‹œ์ผœ์ฃผ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋น„๊ผฌ๋Š”๊ตฐ'์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
73:53
And then I suddenly realised that maybe I've gone a little too far.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค ๋ฌธ๋“ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ”๋Š”์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
73:56
He's I mean, that's it.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
73:57
He said, if I didn't know you well enough, you'd be out of a job.
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ง์žฅ์„ ์žƒ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:01
A comment like that said.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์ด ์žˆ๋”๋ผ๊ณ ์š”.
74:03
Well that, that is it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
74:04
But doesn't that I think that story just proves
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€
74:09
the power of sarcasm
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ํ’์ž์˜ ํž˜
74:12
and how saying the wrong thing at the wrong moment in the wrong way
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๊ณผ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜
74:18
can land you in a lot of trouble.
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๋งŽ์€ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์— ์ฒ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ์ฆ๋ช…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
74:22
Here's another one, Steve.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
74:23
This is this is this is nice I'm enjoying this.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‹ค ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€๋ฐ ๋‚œ ์ด๊ฑธ ์ฆ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ์žˆ์–ด.
74:27
It is bad to talk about certain things and now we are getting into it.
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์˜๊ณ  ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:32
We are getting right into it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:34
This is it.
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์ด๊ฑฐ ์•ผ.
74:35
This is the main part of the subject.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ฃผ์ œ์˜ ์ฃผ์š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:37
It is bad to talk about things.
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์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์˜๋‹ค.
74:41
Or maybe, maybe there are certain things you should avoid talking about.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด, ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ๋ง์•„์•ผ ํ•  ํŠน์ • ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
74:45
So in general conversation, do you mean do you mean in sort of general meeting it with friend?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋งŒ๋‚จ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
74:52
Yes. Work colleagues? Yes, something like that.
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์˜ˆ. ์ง์žฅ ๋™๋ฃŒ? ์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
74:54
Any any social interaction where where you are
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌํšŒ์  ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉ
74:58
speaking or an advice team to talk about.
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์ด๋‚˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์กฐ์–ธ ํŒ€.
75:03
So it is bad to talk about certain things.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:06
And here we are, we're going to name them, by the way.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฆ„์„ ์ง€์ •ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:09
So you are of a sensitive disposition if you are easily offended.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ƒํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์˜ˆ๋ฏผํ•œ ์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:15
So these are things which
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€
75:17
might induce upset and for people.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ™”๋ฅผ ์œ ๋ฐœํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:21
Yes, offence traditionally have can lead
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์˜ˆ,
75:24
to big arguments if you bring up these certain subjects.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ํŠน์ • ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๋ฉด โ€‹โ€‹์ „ํ†ต์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ด ํฐ ๋…ผ์Ÿ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:28
Can't believe you asked me that question or said
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
75:31
that things that people have strongly held
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
75:35
views about that might differ from your own
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ฃผ์žฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฌํ•ด์™€ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
75:40
and yeah.
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.
75:42
All right. Mr..
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€. ์”จ..
75:43
Yes. Okay, let's get on with it. Here we go.
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๋„ค. ์ข‹์•„, ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด๋ณด์ž. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
75:45
And the first one of our things that you should never talk about
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75:50
or maybe even mention in any situation
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์–ด๋–ค ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋„ ์ ˆ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์–ธ๊ธ‰์กฐ์ฐจ ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š”
75:53
whatsoever is think
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75:59
politics.
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์ •์น˜์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:00
Politics.
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์ •์น˜.
76:02
well, yes, that is he has a subject
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
76:05
which lots of extreme lots of possibilities.
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๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์•„์ฃผ ๋งŽ์€ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
76:09
Lots of extreme.
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๊ทน๋‹จ์ ์ธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:11
You've got right and left conservatives, Labour, etc..
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๋ณด์ˆ˜ํŒŒ์™€ ๋ณด์ˆ˜ํŒŒ, ๋…ธ๋™๋‹น ๋“ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:16
And there are lots of different subject areas in there
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
76:20
that you could differ with in terms of
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76:22
who gets money, the kind of taxation.
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๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š”์ง€, ๊ณผ์„ธ์˜ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ ์˜์—ญ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:26
Can I just stop you there, Steve?
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฉˆ์ถฐ๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ?
76:28
Politics is not necessarily about people in power.
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์ •์น˜๋Š” ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:33
It can also be any opinion about any subject.
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๋˜ํ•œ ์–ด๋–ค ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ์–ด๋–ค ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋ผ๋„ ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:38
So it isn't necessarily left or right.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๊ผญ ์™ผ์ชฝ์ด๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ์ผ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:41
It can actually often be just a movement
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์šด๋™
76:45
or a certain belief or a certain view
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์ด๋‚˜ ํŠน์ • ์‹ ๋…,
76:50
of society or things in general.
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์‚ฌํšŒ ๋˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ ์ „๋ฐ˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํŠน์ • ๊ฒฌํ•ด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
76:53
So politics is kind of referring
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ •์น˜๋Š”
76:57
to views, points of view
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77:01
that are expressed with between people.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ ํ‘œํ˜„๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฌํ•ด, ๊ด€์ ์„ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:05
So so I think politics is definitely one thing that you avoid.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ •์น˜๊ฐ€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ”ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:09
But you are right, you are right in that quite often
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜ณ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ข…์ข…
77:14
you have opposing views.
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๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์—์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜ณ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:17
That means quite often in a conversation one person might
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์ด๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
77:22
start talking about a certain government
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ํŠน์ • ์ •๋ถ€
77:25
or the people who are in power,
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๋‚˜ ๊ถŒ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋ฉฐ,
77:28
and that's how you eventually become embroiled.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํœ˜๋ง๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:34
And of course, the one big subject, political subject
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ง€๋‚œ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ถ„์—ด์‹œํ‚จ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ฃผ์ œ, ์ •์น˜์  ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š”
77:38
that really divided people in societies over the last few years, of course, has been Brexit.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ธŒ๋ ‰์‹œํŠธ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:45
Now that's a subject that
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
77:47
you literally you, you really cannot bring up now in any conversation with people.
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๋ง ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ์–ด๋–ค ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ๋„ ๊บผ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
77:53
It's almost a subject.
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๊ฑฐ์˜ ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ
77:56
It's almost an unwritten rule
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77:59
now that whenever you're in a conversation with a group of people
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๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค
78:06
that you don't really know what their views are about it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด์ œ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์•”๋ฌต์ ์ธ ๊ทœ์น™์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:09
You cannot bring up Brexit
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๋ธŒ๋ ‰์‹œํŠธ๋Š”
78:12
because it is still a very very sensitive subject that has divided society.
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์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋ถ„์—ด์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฑฐ๋ก ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
78:18
Yes. And it's very, very
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์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
78:21
people will hold on to these views no matter what.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ์–ด๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์ˆ˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:26
But, you know, even if they were wrong,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ‹€๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ž์กด์‹ฌ์ด ์ด๋ฅผ ํ—ˆ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
78:28
they will hold on to these views because their ego won't let them anyway.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ ์ˆ˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
78:32
I think they're wrong.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ‹€๋ ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:33
Can I just avoid specifics?
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๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ํ”ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
78:36
Yeah, but I'm just giving an example, Steve.
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์‘, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚œ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“  ๊ฒƒ๋ฟ์ด์•ผ, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
78:38
You know, Brexit is an example of politics which we just can't bring up any more and more conversation.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋ธŒ๋ ‰์‹œํŠธ๋Š” ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆŒ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ •์น˜์˜ ํ•œ ์˜ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:43
More recently.
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์ตœ๊ทผ์—๋Š”.
78:45
There is, of course, another subject that has divided our people.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ตญ๋ฏผ์„ ๋ถ„์—ด์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:49
And it is, of course the the events that took place
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
78:52
between 2020 and 2022.
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2020๋…„์—์„œ 2022๋…„ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ ์‚ฌ๊ฑด๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
78:57
And we are talking about COVID and that that is the new hot topic here in the UK.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฝ”๋กœ๋‚˜19์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์šด ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:03
Everyone is talking about what happened during that period of time.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋Š”์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
79:07
And once again you might say that that is a point of view.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ๋ฒˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ด€์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:12
There are people who have a certain view
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ํŠน์ • ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„
79:15
and others who have maybe the opposite view or the conflicting view.
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ ๊ฒฌํ•ด ๋‚˜ ์ƒ๋ฐ˜๋œ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:21
So I think politics takes in many things
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š”
79:25
when we are talking about opinions, the way you feel
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜๊ฒฌ, ์ฆ‰
79:29
about a certain subject or a certain topic.
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ํŠน์ • ์ฃผ์ œ๋‚˜ ํŠน์ • ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ ์ •์น˜๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
79:33
So I think it is not good. And I
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŠนํžˆ ๋Œ€๊ทœ๋ชจ ๋ชจ์ž„์—์„œ
79:38
to talk about politics,
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์ •์น˜์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
79:40
especially in large gatherings.
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.
79:44
So if you are with many people, then you know that there going
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
79:48
to be many different opinions around you
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์ฃผ๋ณ€์— ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ
79:52
and you are really, really putting yourself
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79:56
at risk strong opinions, particularly
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, ํŠนํžˆ
79:58
about certain areas of politics. Yes.
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ํŠน์ • ์ •์น˜ ๋ถ„์•ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐ•๋ ฅํ•œ ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ—˜์— ๋น ๋œจ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
80:03
Yeah.
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์‘.
80:04
So it's a subject you've got to you've got to tread very carefully
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ์กฐ์‹ฌ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ
80:08
or just avoid something here that Santorini,
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๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์‚ฐํ† ๋ฆฌ๋‹ˆ๊ฐ€
80:12
as mentioned, is,
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80:17
which is an interesting subject, a very interesting subject you brought up Saturday.
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ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฃผ์ œ์ด๊ณ  ํ† ์š”์ผ์— ์ œ๊ธฐํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:20
You know about money.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:24
And if somebody is wealthy or rich and you know they are
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€์œ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถ€์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
80:30
and they've got a big house and they're obviously, you know,
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ํฐ ์ง‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ
80:33
multi millionaires or something,
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๋ฐฑ๋งŒ์žฅ์ž์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ญ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
80:36
do you ask them how they got there, how they got that money? Yes.
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์ด๋ฅด๋ €๋Š”์ง€, ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ๋ˆ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? ์˜ˆ.
80:40
Now, that's normally again, that's a subject you would probably avoid
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์ž, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
80:45
because it's you know, it's maybe they don't want to answer it.
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์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ํ”ผํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ ์ฃผ์ œ์ด๊ณ  ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:49
Some people would do.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:51
But it's, you know, talking about money that's a good subject
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
80:55
probably not to talk about in certain situations.
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ํŠน์ • ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
80:59
We might actually be talking about that in a moment.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž ์‹œ ํ›„์— ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:02
Okay. So here's another subject.
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์ข‹์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ฃผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:04
And I'm sure a lot of people have said this already on the live chat they have.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…์—์„œ ์ด ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:08
I'm pretty sure here it comes
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด
81:13
to religion.
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์ข…๊ต์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ฃผ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์ธ๋ฅ˜ ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ
81:17
If there is one subject that has divided
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๊ฐˆ๋ผ๋†“์€ ์ฃผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
81:22
people all humanity,
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81:25
for a very, very long time, it has to be religion.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ข…๊ต์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
81:29
I think of all the all the subjects, maybe favourite TV show,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ฃผ์ œ, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” TV ์‡ผ,
81:34
maybe your favourite music artist, maybe
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์Œ์•…๊ฐ€, ์•„๋งˆ๋„
81:38
your favourite holiday destination,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ํœด๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋“ฑ
81:41
all of those things seem very trivial and small
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ„์—ด์ ์ธ ์ฃผ์ œ์ธ ์ด ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋น„ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋งค์šฐ ์‚ฌ์†Œํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
81:44
compared to this subject, which is a
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81:48
a very divisive subject.
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.
81:51
And I suppose we don't need to look very far at the moment
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ถ„์—ด์„ ์ผ์œผํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ˜„์žฌ๋กœ์„œ๋Š” ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๋ณผ ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
81:54
to work out just how divisive it can be.
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.
81:59
So I think this is definitely I think this is probably worse
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋งˆ๋„
82:05
than politics because quite often
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์ •์น˜๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋‚˜์˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ข…์ข…
82:08
you might even find that those two subjects become the same.
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์ด ๋‘ ์ฃผ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋™์ผํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
82:13
Steve Yes, yes.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์‘, ์‘.
82:15
The problem with religion is there are lots of different religions and they all
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์ข…๊ต์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ข…๊ต๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
82:19
everybody who is a member of that religion strongly believes
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๊ทธ ์ข…๊ต์— ์†ํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
82:26
in that religion and its teachings.
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๊ทธ ์ข…๊ต์™€ ๊ทธ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์นจ์„ ๊ตณ๊ฒŒ ๋ฏฟ๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:29
And because usually they've been taught it from a very young age.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ€๊ฐœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„์ฃผ ์–ด๋ฆด ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:34
So it's all they know.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋Š” ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:37
And therefore the idea that another religion
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข…๊ต๊ฐ€
82:44
might have a different view
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์€
82:46
is sometimes very difficult for to accept.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
82:51
And it's when
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
82:54
it's when certain religious leaders
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ํŠน์ • ์ข…๊ต ์ง€๋„์ž
82:57
or religious leaders start to
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๋‚˜ ์ข…๊ต ์ง€๋„์ž๋“ค์ด
83:01
often used and has been in history, hasn't it?
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์ž์ฃผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ญ์‚ฌ์— ๋“ฑ์žฅํ•œ ๋•Œ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
83:04
Religion has been used as a weapon
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์ข…๊ต๋Š”
83:07
against another group of people.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง‘๋‹จ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜์–ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:10
See what you are doing.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
83:11
Now what's interesting here, Steve, is you are now expressing your opinion
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์€ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด์ œ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์„ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๊ณ 
83:16
and it's see how easy it is, though.
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์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์‰ฌ์šด์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:18
I'm just talking general note, talking generally, Steve, just just just allow me just to
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๋‚œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ
83:24
it is easy to start talking about opinions, though.
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, ๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์˜๊ฒฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑด ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑธ ์ธ์ •ํ•ด์ค˜.
83:28
And I know we're discussing the subject, but what I'm saying is
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ฃผ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€
83:33
it is a subject that once you open it, when you open the box,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ๋‹จ ์—ด๋ฉด ์ƒ์ž๋ฅผ ์—ด๋ฉด
83:37
it just become something that you can't you almost can't put the box.
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์ƒ์ž๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋†“์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. .
83:42
You close it again.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ๋‹ซ์œผ์„ธ์š”.
83:44
You've got to you've got to be able to hopefully if you want to believe in religion, fine.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข…๊ต๋ฅผ ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ํฌ๋ง์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:49
If you you've been brought up to believe in that, fine,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฏฟ๋„๋ก ์ž๋ž๋‹ค๋ฉด,
83:53
you know, you can respect that.
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์กด์ค‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
83:55
But it's as we said before, it's when
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•ž์„œ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด
83:59
it's when
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84:01
people in charge use.
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๋‹ด๋‹น์ž๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ๋•Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:03
Okay, use that you want then that's when that's when it becomes a problem.
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์ข‹์•„, ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋•Œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:08
And that that is an opinion you see, because people
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ณด๋Š” ์˜๊ฒฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€
84:11
just people normally just live together.
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๋ณดํ†ต ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‚ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:14
That's nice.
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๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ข‹๋„ค์š”.
84:15
That's what I respect everybody else.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์กด๊ฒฝํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋‹ค.
84:17
Yes. I'm with life. Steve.
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์˜ˆ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ธ์ƒ์„ ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
84:19
What I think what I think is that
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
84:23
everyone, everyone can believe whatever they want.
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:27
And I think that's it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:28
I mean, we're not religious, both of us.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์ข…๊ต์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
84:30
Not really religious.
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๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ์ข…๊ต์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:33
Never been to church really regularly.
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๊ตํšŒ์— ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:36
But I would say that everyone is welcome to do that.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:41
What I think most people object to is when someone knocks on their door
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ง‘ ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‘๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
84:46
and tells them that's what you must think.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:49
You have to think that that thing is the only thought you should have.
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๊ทธ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์ ธ์•ผ ํ•  ์œ ์ผํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:53
You should be thinking your own thing.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:56
You should be thinking this thing.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
84:57
And I think that's when there is conflict.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐˆ๋“ฑ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
85:01
So that's the reason why generally I think religion is is avoided
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ
85:07
in conversation with people, you know, or people
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ์ข…๊ต๋ฅผ ํ”ผํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ชจ๋ฅด๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค,
85:10
you don't know or at least know when to back off. Yes.
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์ ์–ด๋„ ๋ฌผ๋Ÿฌ์„œ์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ๋ง์ด์ฃ . ์˜ˆ.
85:14
And change the subject.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ์„ธ์š”.
85:15
Ooh, I think we ought to stop there and change the subject.
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์•„, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ฉˆ์ถ”๊ณ  ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
85:19
See that?
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85:19
That's often something you hear in a conversation.
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์ €๊ฑฐ ๋ด?
๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ณด๋ฉด ์ข…์ข… ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋ง์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
85:22
If you can see people are getting heated
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๋œจ๊ฑฐ์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์›Œ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
85:25
when when when you say someone's
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85:27
getting heated, it literally means they're getting hot,
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, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฌธ์ž ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์›Œ์ง€๊ณ ,
85:31
flushed with anger and emotion.
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๋ถ„๋…ธ์™€ ๊ฐ์ •์œผ๋กœ ์–ผ๊ตด์ด ๋ถ‰์–ด์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:34
Yes, the conversation is becoming heated.
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์˜ˆ, ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์ ์  ๋œจ๊ฑฐ์›Œ์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:36
People, then you okay, let's change the subject, shall we?
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์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์œผ์„ธ์š”? ํ™”์ œ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:39
The voices will start to rise. Yes.
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๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋†’์•„์ง€๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
85:43
So it goes from polite conversation to shouting and arguing.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ˆ์˜๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ์ง€๋ฅด๊ณ  ๋…ผ์Ÿ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:47
Maybe, maybe fighting in the streets as often happens.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ธธ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ž์ฃผ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹ธ์›€์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:52
Here we go is another one.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:54
This is this is a little lighter.
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์ด๊ฒŒ ์ข€ ๊ฐ€๋ณ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
85:56
This one, Steve, a subject that a lot of people don't like talking about
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ˆ˜์ž…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ† ๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
86:01
or discussing
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86:05
earnings. Yes.
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. ์˜ˆ.
86:06
And somebody mentioned money
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์•„๊นŒ ๋ˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”
86:10
earlier.
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.
86:11
I mentioned that myself.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ง์ ‘ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
86:13
I can't remember who it was.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์˜€๋Š”์ง€ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
86:15
And I think it was it was it was it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:17
God, I can't remember.
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๋ง™์†Œ์‚ฌ, ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
86:18
But yes,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:21
particularly in the workplace,
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š”
86:24
a lot of companies actually
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๋งŽ์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
86:27
make it a rule
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86:29
that you cannot your earnings with other colleagues.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋™๋ฃŒ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ทœ์น™์„ ์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
86:33
I know that's the case where I work and everywhere I've worked before,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ๊ณผ ์ด์ „์— ์ผํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ณณ์—์„œ,
86:37
probably with yourself,
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์•„๋งˆ๋„
86:40
you can be you can get yourself into trouble.
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๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋น ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž„๊ธˆ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•  ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
86:43
You can get a disciplinary action against you if you discuss your wages.
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์ง•๊ณ„ ์กฐ์น˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
86:48
Yeah, because quite often people in the same positions
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์˜ˆ, ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ง์œ„์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์–ด๋””์—์„œ
86:52
as you may be on more
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86:55
or less, depending on where they came,
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์™”๋Š”์ง€,
86:58
which companies they came from, or how long they've been with the company.
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์–ด๋–ค ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€, ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทผ๋ฌดํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๊ทธ ์ •๋„๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:01
Lots of different factors we won't go into whether it's fair or not, but often people are.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณต์ •ํ•œ์ง€ ์•„๋‹Œ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฃจ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์š”์†Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ข…์ข… ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ณต์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:06
They might be a different sex,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์„ฑ๋ณ„์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
87:09
might be earning, doing the same job and earning less
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๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ๊ณ , ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ ,
87:11
or more than you, or if they're younger or older.
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๋‹น์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ˆ˜์ž…์ด ์ ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งŽ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
87:15
You don't like to find out that you've been working for a company 20 years
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ํ•œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ 20๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ผํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‹น์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค
87:20
and somebody new comes in who's half your age and is on more than you, you're going to be angry.
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๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ์ ˆ๋ฐ˜์ด๊ณ  ์ง€์œ„๊ฐ€ ๋” ๋†’์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ ๋“ค์–ด์™”๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:25
So companies don't like to discuss it and it can be
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š” ์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉฐ
87:29
it can be
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87:30
particularly at work can be a very divisive subject to talk about.
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ„์—ด์ ์ธ ์ฃผ์ œ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:35
Well, I think also there is a lot of competition.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ๋„ ๋งŽ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
87:38
It is a competitive thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ด๋‹ค.
87:41
So when again, you kind of get this clash between people,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ถฉ๋Œ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
87:45
maybe two people who have a similar job,
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ง์—…,
87:48
a similar position in the same company, and they might find out
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๊ฐ™์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ง์œ„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋‘ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ,
87:54
that one of them earns more for doing the same job as someone else.
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๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
87:59
And you are right, Steve, These days we hear a lot about gender equality.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹  ๋ง์ด ๋งž์•„์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ. ์š”์ฆ˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์„ฑํ‰๋“ฑ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:05
So maybe a woman being paid less than a man,
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ๋‚จ์„ฑ๋ณด๋‹ค ๊ธ‰์—ฌ๋ฅผ ์ ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜๋„
88:08
but to do the same, exactly the same job.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:12
So earnings, but also asking a person
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ˆ˜์ž…๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
88:15
genuinely in general conversation how much you earn.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ์ˆ˜์ž…์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ์ธ์ง€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
88:19
So so maybe someone will come up to you, Steve, and ask Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๊ฐ€์™€ ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ
88:23
Steve, how much do you earn in your job?
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์”จ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋ฒŒ๋‚˜์š”?
88:26
Yes, that that is no.
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
88:29
Yeah, that's a very
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฑด
88:32
even with my best friends, I probably would
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๋‚ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค๊ณผ๋„ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณตํ‰ํ•œ ์ผ์ด์•ผ. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
88:36
loathe to discuss
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๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์‹ซ์–ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค.
88:38
that because when you certainly reveal to people how much you earn immediately
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ฆ‰์‹œ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋ฒŒ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
88:43
they're making all kinds of judgements assessments about about you
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์˜จ๊ฐ– ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ํŒ๋‹จ์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋‹ค.
88:50
and it's,
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88:51
you know it's, it's often a subject if you I mean I do with certain
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88:56
I've got one particular friend at work we always do
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์ง์žฅ์— ํŠน์ • ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๋ช… ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํ™•์‹คํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ
88:59
tell each other what we're earning.
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์„œ๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์ˆ˜์ž…์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:02
But generally yes, in my previous job I'm
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ „ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š”
89:06
not this job, my previous job and
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์ด ์ง์žฅ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ „ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š”
89:10
that was all right.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:11
You know, we sort of we knew each other well enough that
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
89:15
we could discuss it and we knew it wouldn't.
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ํ† ๋ก ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๋งŒํผ ์„œ๋กœ๋ฅผ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:18
Him And you do generally know if people are getting bonuses
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€
89:21
who are getting the most bonuses because they publish that.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฒŒ์‹œํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ณด๋„ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š”์ง€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:25
But in the general term
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
89:27
of of conversation, things that you should avoid talking about,
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๋Œ€ํ™”์˜ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ์šฉ์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด, ํ”ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š”
89:32
you wouldn't normally ask a person how much they earn in their job.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋ฅผ ๋ฒ„๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌป์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:37
Yeah, it is.
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง€๊ธˆ๋„
89:39
I would say it's a delicate subject, even in families even now.
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๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์—์„œ๋„ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
89:44
Can I just tell you this, Steve?
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์ด๊ฒƒ๋งŒ ๋งํ•ด๋„ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ?
89:46
Even in close relationships, maybe marriages,
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๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ๊ด€๊ณ„, ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์—์„œ๋„
89:51
quite often the husband
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๋‚จํŽธ์€
89:53
will keep all of that secret from his wife.
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์•„๋‚ด์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋น„๋ฐ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
89:58
So you might find situations
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
90:00
where the husband will actually keep his earnings secret
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๋‚จํŽธ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ž…์„
90:06
from his own wife.
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์•„๋‚ด์—๊ฒŒ ๋น„๋ฐ€๋กœ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ƒํ™ฉ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:09
And it does happen.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ
90:11
There have been instances and situations where that's actually happened.
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์‚ฌ๋ก€์™€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ •๋ง
90:16
Incredible, isn't it? Yes.
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๋†€๋ž์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”? ์˜ˆ.
90:19
Or is it different relationships?
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ด€๊ณ„์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
90:21
There are different sort of old fashioned
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜
90:25
There are different sort of parameters, but most of them are things that are different.
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๊ตฌ์‹์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋งค๊ฐœ๋ณ€์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์„œ๋กœ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:28
Sort of. Yeah, different things that people talk about.
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์ผ์ข…์˜. ๋„ค, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:31
I think it would be very strange if you were in a relationship
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์—ฐ์•  ์ค‘์ด๊ณ 
90:35
and you didn't know what your partner is earning.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋ฒŒ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋งค์šฐ ์ด์ƒํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:37
That would be that would be that would be an odd situation, I think.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ํ™”
90:43
we've got a number. Mr.
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๋ฒˆํ˜ธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
90:45
Duncan Okay, So, so, so you're sitting down and now that's uncomfortable.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ, ์•‰์•„์„œ ๊ณ„์‹œ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•˜์‹œ๊ตฐ์š”.
90:50
Yeah, well, I've just moved around. I'm fine now. Good.
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๋„ค, ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์ด์‚ฌํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์š”. ์ข‹์€.
90:53
I can't win.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ธธ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค.
90:55
So. So many.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์•„์š”.
90:57
Many is a sensitive issue.
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๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
90:59
I was often asked in in China
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ค‘๊ตญ์—์„œ
91:03
by sometimes by my students or sometimes by people.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ, ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ข…์ข… ์š”์ฒญ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:07
I just I was acquainted with.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ์ด์˜€์–ด์š”.
91:10
And they would ask, how much does your school pay you directly?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํ•™๊ต๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง์ ‘ ์ง€๋ถˆํ•˜๋Š” ๊ธˆ์•ก์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ์ธ์ง€ ๋ฌป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:14
Just ask directly and and I thought it was quite offensive.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ง์ ‘ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ฝค ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
91:19
But then I realised in Chinese society a lot of people will just
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์ค‘๊ตญ ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
91:24
discuss their salary with each other and it's it's not a big deal.
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์—ฐ๋ด‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณ„ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:29
So different kinds of cultural things.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”์  ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:31
We've got to appreciate that.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:33
Different cultures, it could be different.
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๋ฌธํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:35
Yes, I think, I think quite often you can find that.
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๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
91:38
Here's another one, Steve, can I just quickly say, Dwayne, thank you for your comment.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Steve. Dwayne, ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
91:44
What if a colleague directly asks you at work,
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์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋™๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
91:50
what is
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91:50
what are you you know, what salary are you on?
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์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€, ๊ธ‰์—ฌ๋Š” ์–ผ๋งˆ์ธ์ง€ ๋ฌป๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–จ๊นŒ์š”?
91:54
Well, probably
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์•„๋งˆ๋„
91:56
would I would feel that would make me feel uncomfortable.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋Š๋‚„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:00
It's something that they shouldn't have asked.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌป์ง€ ๋ง์•˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์ด๋‹ค.
92:04
And I would probably reply that
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋‹ค
92:08
I would probably.
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.
92:09
What would I say?
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92:09
I'd probably say, Well, I don't think we're supposed to talk about that, aren't we?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•ˆ ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
92:13
But I would imagine it's pretty much the same as you.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:17
And then if they pressed it, they might get from my reply that I wasn't comfortable
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ค๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ˆ„๋ฅด๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€
92:22
talking about it and they would not ask any further questions if they did.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถˆํŽธํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด๋„ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋Œ€๋‹ต์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์งˆ๋ฌธํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:27
Depends on how well I know them, but I might.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ž˜ ์•„๋Š”์ง€์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:31
You know, there are ways of sort of saying, well,
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
92:36
I wouldn't want to.
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์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:37
Nobody.
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์•„๋ฌด๋„.
92:38
No, really ask me directly.
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ์ •๋ง ์ง์ ‘ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
92:40
Well, you just say, I don't want to talk about that.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์…จ๋Š”๋ฐ์š”.
92:42
It's it's my private thing.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‚ด ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ด์—์š”.
92:43
It's it's not a thing that's open for discussion.
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ํ† ๋ก ์˜ ์—ฌ์ง€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:46
Yeah, that's it.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
92:47
That's it. You, you what you actually do is cut.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ. ๋‹น์‹ , ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€ ์ž˜๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
92:50
Cut that conversation short.
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๊ทธ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์งง๊ฒŒ ์ž๋ฅด์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
92:54
Palmira says.
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92:54
I don't know what my sons are earning.
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ํŒ”๋ฏธ๋ผ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
๋‚ด ์•„๋“ค๋“ค์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๋ฒŒ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
92:59
Yeah, fine.
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์‘, ์•Œ์•˜์–ด.
93:00
Yes, because it's their private business.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ์‚ฌ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ด๋‹ˆ๊นŒ.
93:02
And I think privacy is, is definitely the thing that relates
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ํ”„๋ผ์ด๋ฒ„์‹œ๋Š” ํ™•์‹คํžˆ
93:06
to how much you earn and also the next one, the next subject.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฒ„๋Š” ๊ธˆ์•ก ๊ณผ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ, ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์ œ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:11
Here it comes, Steve.
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์™”๊ตฌ๋‚˜, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
93:12
And this is again a delicate subject.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:15
You have to be careful
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93:18
how has a person's health
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ์ƒํƒœ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
93:22
quite often and and I find this quite interesting as well,
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๋งค์šฐ ์ž์ฃผ ์ฃผ์˜ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:27
quite often people will not want to discuss their health.
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๊ฝค ์ž์ฃผ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:32
And I think it is very similar to to your earnings.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ˆ˜์ž…๊ณผ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:36
It is something you like to keep private, keep to yourself.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋น„๊ณต๊ฐœ๋กœ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
93:41
Sometimes people don't like to discuss their health.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:44
Maybe they have an illness that they don't want to discuss.
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
93:48
Even if you know that that person is ill,
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„ํ”„๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๋”๋ผ๋„,
93:53
quite often they won't want to actually discuss it because they feel awkward
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๋ถˆํŽธํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋ผ
93:57
or they just don't want to share it with other people.
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๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:02
Yes, I mean, you might my my mother.
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๋„ค, ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:06
I mean, it could be a generational thing as well.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์„ธ๋Œ€ ๊ฐ„ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:09
Never.
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์ ˆ๋Œ€.
94:10
My mother's generation, they never talked about their health.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ ์„ธ๋Œ€๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ๋„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ์ ์ด ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:13
They didn't people were ill.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•„ํ”ˆ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:17
They you didn't see them for a few days
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฉฐ์น  ๋™์•ˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋‹ค
94:20
and then they came back and you didn't really ask
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๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋Œ์•„์™”๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ณ„๋กœ ๋ฌป์ง€๋„ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
94:25
my mother.
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94:25
I took my mother.
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.
๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋จธ๋‹ˆ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:26
See, I don't want people to know what's wrong with me.
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๋ณด์„ธ์š”, ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:30
And but then again, it
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ ๊ทธ๊ฑด
94:33
depends on your personality, I think. And
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์„ฑ๊ฒฉ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
94:38
various other factors.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์š”์ธ๋“ค.
94:40
But I think now people tend to talk more about it.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด์ œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
94:43
But if you met somebody
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋Š”๋ฐ
94:46
and you hadn't seen them for a while
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ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
94:49
and you suspected they hadn't been very well, you might say, how will you?
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๋ณ„๋กœ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
94:53
And they might say nothing or they might say,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋ฌด ๋ง๋„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
94:57
I haven't been too good, but I'm better now.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์ข‹์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋” ๋‚˜์•„์กŒ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:00
And then the next.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ.
95:01
But then do you press it further and say, what's been the matter with you.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋” ๋ˆ„๋ฅด๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
95:06
Well, that's a bit rude
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๊ธ€์Ž„,
95:08
if they were to say I've been ill,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์•„ํ”„๋‹ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
95:12
I had a bad chest
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ํ‰๋ถ€
95:17
infection or
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๊ฐ์—ผ์ด ์‹ฌํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
95:20
I had a broken leg or
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๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๋‹ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์€
95:23
but it could be some health matter that you don't want to discuss.
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๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ฌธ์ œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
95:28
So unless they tell you my
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•œ, ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€
95:30
then you know you're not going to directly say, what was the matter with.
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์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
95:35
That's, that's a bit too direct.
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์ฆ‰, ์ข€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์ง์ ‘์ ์ด๋„ค์š”.
95:37
You know, if they want to tell you they'll tell you.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋งํ•ด ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:39
Yes. Can I just say my guideline is the more serious something,
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์˜ˆ. ๋‚ด ์ง€์นจ์ด ๋” ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ผ์ˆ˜๋ก
95:45
the less the less you should draw attention to it.
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์ฃผ์˜๋ฅผ ๋œ ๊ธฐ์šธ์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
95:49
Since a person has a broken leg, which I think is a good example,
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ข‹์€ ์˜ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
95:54
you can see that the leg is broken, it's there.
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๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:00
Your leg is now covered in in plaster Paris.
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์ด์ œ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์„๊ณ  ํŒŒ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ๋ฎ์—ฌ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:04
So it's very hard not to talk about something that is obvious.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:09
So if a person has a broken leg,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๋‹ค๋ฉด
96:12
you can see that that person has a broken leg.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:16
You are going to mention it
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๋‹น์‹ ์€
96:18
because it is broken and it clearly is broken or maybe a broken arm.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํŒ”์ด ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:23
Or maybe if a person
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด
96:26
just has maybe an eye patch, maybe a patch over there.
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์•ˆ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ €์ชฝ์— ์•ˆ๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋Œˆ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:30
Are you are they a pirate?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•ด์ ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
96:33
You would. Well, you can. I'm only joking.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์žฅ๋‚œ์ด์•ผ.
96:36
Can you can say ahoy or Georgie?
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์•„ํ˜ธ์ด(Ahoy) ๋˜๋Š” ์กฐ์ง€(Georgie)๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
96:38
My heart is something like that.
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๋‚ด ๋งˆ์Œ์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
96:41
So things that are very obvious you might ask about, what happened?
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ๋ฌผ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•œ ์ผ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‚˜์š”?
96:46
What happened to your eye?
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๋ˆˆ์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‚˜์š”?
96:48
What happened to your leg?
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๋‹ค๋ฆฌ์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ฌ๋‚˜์š”?
96:50
How did you do that?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•?
96:51
How did you break your leg? However,
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๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
96:54
a lot of people, they the more serious
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ• ์ˆ˜๋ก
96:58
the illness, the less it
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97:02
it is acceptable to to openly discuss it,
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๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊บผ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:05
especially if it's something really, really serious.
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ํŠนํžˆ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๋”์šฑ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:09
And of course, we are talking, I suppose cancer is the big one
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•”์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ
97:13
and the other big that people don't often like to talk about is mental health issues,
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์ด๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž์ฃผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:19
because particularly for men, because that has an implication that you are somehow
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ํŠนํžˆ ๋‚จ์„ฑ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•”์— ์†ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์•”์‹œ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:26
of it.
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97:26
It's not. But
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. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€
์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
97:28
and Catarina touches on this.
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Catarina๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:31
Thank you for your comment that women are more disposed to talk about their health than men.
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์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด ๋‚จ์„ฑ๋ณด๋‹ค ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์— ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:37
And that is true.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋‹ค.
97:38
I think in general, women are more liable to talk to each other
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์—ฌ์„ฑ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜
97:42
about all sorts of issues that might be worrying
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๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์„œ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
97:46
not just their health, but all sorts of issues.
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.
97:49
And they talk about it, and that's therapy in a way.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ์น˜๋ฃŒ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:53
Whereas men, you know, they want to be macho.
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๋ฐ˜๋ฉด์— ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์€ ๋งˆ์ดˆ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:56
I'm tough, you know, nothing affects me.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฐ•์ธํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด ์˜ํ–ฅ๋„ ๋ฏธ์น˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
97:59
And there's a lot of mental health problems with men because they're not able
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚จ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š”
98:05
or don't have an outlet to talk about things that are affecting them. Yes.
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์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ถœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ.
98:10
Or affecting their mental health or their physical.
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๋˜๋Š” ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด๋‚˜ ์‹ ์ฒด์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:14
And because they don't want to seem, you know, they're going down the pub with their mates,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ด๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ˆ ์ง‘์— ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ€
98:19
you know, having a drink, going down to watch the football match.
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์ˆ ์„ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ณ  ์ถ•๊ตฌ ๊ฒฝ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Ÿฌ ๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:24
You just suddenly start for a man to suddenly open up emotionally to another man.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ํ•œ ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‚จ์ž์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งˆ์Œ์„ ์—ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:29
It's very
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98:31
culturally, very difficult.
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๋ฌธํ™”์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต๊ณ  ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:33
But men don't like to seem weak.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์€ ์•ฝํ•ด ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:36
No, that's it.
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
98:37
It's, it's the avoidance of appearing weak.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ์•ฝํ•ด ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:42
So if a man talks about anything, even if he just has a cold, he won't really talk
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์–ด๋–ค ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉด ์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ๊ฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฑธ๋ ธ์„์ง€๋ผ๋„
98:47
about it with his mates because it will make him seem
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๊ทธ๋Š” ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์—
98:50
as if he is not is much about him.
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๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
98:53
I've got a friend like that, you know, he gets ill, but he won't talk about it.
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์ œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ์ค‘์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„ํ”„๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์–˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์•ˆ ํ•ด์š”.
99:00
It just.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ.
99:01
nothing.
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99:01
I never get cold or I never get.
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์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ์•„๋‹˜.
๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์ถฅ์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:04
Nothing's ever wrong with me.
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์•„๋ฌด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:05
And but they do get ill.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ณ‘์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:07
They just don't talk about it.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:09
Well when you see them they're.
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ณผ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:11
Yeah, they just they're all right
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ์ž์‹ ๋“ค์ด
99:14
because they won't admit that they've got an infection because that's a sign of weakness.
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๊ฐ์—ผ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์ธ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•ฝํ•จ์˜ ํ‘œ์‹œ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:21
But that's.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด.
99:22
But then some people of course they, they, they, they're always talking about their illnesses.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์งˆ๋ณ‘์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:27
You get the opposite.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋ฅผ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:28
Whereas people will talk endlessly about their
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๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋™์ •์‹ฌ์„ ์–ป๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์œผ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋์—†์ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
99:32
as a way of getting sympathy from
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99:36
somebody that do this all the time.
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.
99:37
They use it as an excuse to to not work
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์ผ์„ ์•ˆ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
99:41
or to not meet you or something on, I'm not feeling well.
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๋งŒ๋‚˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ , ๋ชธ์ด ์•ˆ ์ข‹๋‹ค๋Š” ํ•‘๊ณ„๋กœ ์‚ผ๋Š”๋‹ค.
99:45
So, you know, it's the opposite, isn't it?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€์ธ ๊ฑฐ ์•„์‹œ์ฃ ?
99:47
Sometimes I think if a person is talking about their own health openly, then that's not the same thing.
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
99:53
Because you're not invading that person's privacy because they are disclosing it.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์„œ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์‚ฌ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์นจํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
99:58
I but, but to ask a person directly
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ
100:00
about their health is is quite often
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๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ง์ ‘ ๋ฌป๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
100:04
certainly something you should avoid.
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ํ”ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒฝ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:09
Here we go. Steve.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
100:11
he's now I've saved the biggest one
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๊ทธ๋Š” ์ด์ œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ฒƒ
100:14
or one of the biggest ones to the end
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๋˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋๊นŒ์ง€ ์ €์žฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:20
you'll get a little bit the
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜
100:23
age and by the way, rhubarb,
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๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ, ๋Œ€ํ™ฉ,
100:26
it's all of those
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘์ด๊ณ 
100:31
and I don't mind the question.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ์‹ ๊ฒฝ ์“ฐ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:32
It's all, it's all of them.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์•ผ, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์•ผ.
100:34
But anyway, your age. Mr. Duncan Yes.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์–ด์จŒ๋“ , ๋‹น์‹  ๋‚˜์ด. ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
100:37
How old are you? Mr. Duncan.
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๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ด์—์š”? ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
100:39
Well, for me, you see,
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฒŒ๋Š”
100:41
the problem is and this is this is a big problem.
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๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:45
And I just say I love being here on
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ณ 
100:49
I love being a YouTuber.
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YouTube ์‚ฌ์šฉ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:51
I've been doing this for many years and I do get a lot of questions, a lot of things asked.
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์ €๋Š” ์ˆ˜๋…„๊ฐ„ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•ด์™”๊ณ  ๋งŽ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
100:56
Sometimes people write to me with nice things and sometimes people write to me
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ๊ธ€์„ ์“ฐ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
101:01
with really rude and horrible things, accusations
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์ •๋ง ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋”์ฐํ•œ ๊ธ€, ๋น„๋‚œ
101:05
and things like that of being rude or racist
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,
101:11
when I haven't done anything like that at all.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ง“์„ ์ „ํ˜€ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ธ์ข…์ฐจ๋ณ„์ ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋น„๋‚œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ธ€์„ ์“ฐ๊ธฐ๋„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:14
And, and so being, being in the public eye
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ์ฃผ๋ชฉ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•  ํ•„์š”๊ฐ€ ์—†๋Š”
101:19
means that
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101:20
there are certain pressures against you
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๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ํŠน์ • ์••๋ ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
101:23
that that other people don't have to worry about.
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.
101:26
And one them, of course, is age.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚˜์ด์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:29
So if you are a famous person and we know this is true, Steve,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ด๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ,
101:32
don't we, because we see so many celebrities having facelifts,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ๋“ค์ด
101:38
plastic surgery to pull everything back like that.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›๋ž˜๋Œ€๋กœ ๋˜๋Œ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์•ˆ๋ฉด ์„ฑํ˜•, ์„ฑํ˜• ์ˆ˜์ˆ ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:43
So we know that if you are famous or in the public eye,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์œ ๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๋ฉด
101:47
your age becomes a very sensitive thing.
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:50
You have to protect.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:51
You have to seem young forever because you can't you can't be old.
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์˜์›ํžˆ ์ Š์–ด ๋ณด์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋Š™์–ด๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
101:58
People won't watch your movies or buy your things.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์‚ฌ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
102:03
Well, listen to your music anymore because you're old.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋Š™์—ˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์Œ์•…์„ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
102:06
So age is a very sensitive subject.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜์ด๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
102:09
It is.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€.
102:10
I mean, you there's a phrase it's often used, you know, never ask a lady her age
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ž์ฃผ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฌป์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
102:16
that's used a lot in the UK
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102:21
because you would
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102:23
you can ask a man of his age, maybe
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๊ทธ ๋‚˜์ด์˜ ๋‚จ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜๋Š”
102:26
but you could never ask a woman.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
102:28
I would never I would never ask a woman.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ์—ฌ์ž์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌป์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
102:31
How old are you? I mean, you just wouldn't do it.
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๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ด์—์š”? ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
102:34
It's extremely rude because,
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102:37
you know, it's very sensitive.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
102:39
People often ask me my age,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ œ๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๋Š”๋ฐ,
102:42
I don't you know,
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์–ด์š”.
102:45
I don't mind people, but.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์“ฐ์ด์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ์š”.
102:47
But you would never directly ask a woman
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ ์–ด๋„ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ผ์—์„œ๋Š” ์—ฌ์„ฑ์—๊ฒŒ ์ง์ ‘์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๋ฌป์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
102:51
her age in this, at least in this country.
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.
102:55
I probably in Europe as well.
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์•„๋งˆ ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์—๋„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
102:57
It's just something you don't because
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
103:00
it means that you nobody wants to be
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103:03
put into a box or pigeon because of their age.
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๋‚˜์ด ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ƒ์ž๋‚˜ ๋น„๋‘˜๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ‡ํžˆ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:06
Because as soon as somebody knows how old you are, immediately
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ์•„๋Š” ์ˆœ๊ฐ„, ์ฆ‰์‹œ
103:10
they're you're assessed on the basis of that.
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๊ทธ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ํ‰๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:14
Yes, I agree.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚œ ๋™์˜.
103:17
Everything changes as soon as somebody noticeable.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„์ž๋งˆ์ž ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ณ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:20
I mean, obviously, most people look pretty much what their age is anyway.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์–ด์จŒ๋“  ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋‚˜์ด์™€ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๋น„์Šทํ•ด ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:24
You can pretty much how old most people are.
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:28
But some but but yes, it's a it's a subject
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:33
you have to be again, sensitive to.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฃผ์ œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:37
But I think depending on the person in this situation, yes, they're protective.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ด ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ฒ˜ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋ณดํ˜ธ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
103:41
And I think the more the more in the public eye you are,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋…ธ์ถœ๋ ์ˆ˜๋ก
103:45
the more protective you are not just your age, but also the
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜์ด๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
103:49
the appearance of age.
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๋‚˜์ด์˜ ๋ชจ์Šต๋„ ๋”์šฑ ๋ณดํ˜ธํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:53
So everyone wants to look, we all want to stay young forever.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์™ธ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜๊ณ  ์˜์›ํžˆ ์ Š์Œ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
103:57
We do.
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103:57
But I am sorry to have to break this to you, but you can't.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”ํ•˜๋‹ค.
ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด ๋ง์„ ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ์œ ๊ฐ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:01
You can try. You can fight nature.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‹œ๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์—ฐ๊ณผ ์‹ธ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ผ๊ตด์—
104:04
You can have a little bit of plastic surgery on your face to make you look lovely and young.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์„ฑํ˜•์ˆ˜์ˆ ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์ Š์–ด ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:10
But at the end of the day, you can't do anything about it.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„๋ฌด๊ฒƒ๋„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:14
You Can't.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:15
But if you are in the public eye, especially if you are female women,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๋ฉด, ํŠนํžˆ ์—ฌ์„ฑ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
104:20
it is impolite, generally speaking.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•œ ํ–‰๋™์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๋Š”
104:23
And there's more this on people if they're in the public eye,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
104:26
because, you know, if somebody starts to look older, it's written in the paper.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์ด๋“ค์–ด ๋ณด์ด๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ ๋ฌธ์— ์“ฐ์—ฌ์ง€๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:31
We were shocked last night, actually.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด์ ฏ๋ฐค์— ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:33
There's a particular programme that we watch with a certain presenters
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํŠน์ • ๋ฐœํ‘œ์ž๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ํŠน์ • ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์ด ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
104:38
and there's this one presenter who's probably,
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104:41
I would say only maybe to late twenties.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ 20๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜๊นŒ์ง€๋งŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ํ•œ ๋ฐœํ‘œ์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
104:45
Yes, I think he's about 24 or 25.
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๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” 24์‚ด์ด๋‚˜ 25์‚ด์ฏค ๋  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
104:47
That's right. And
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๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
104:49
we watched last night and I said to you Mr.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด์ ฏ๋ฐค์— ์‹œ์ฒญํ–ˆ๊ณ  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ
104:54
what's, what's wrong with him?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
104:56
And he's had all sorts of work done to his face, have his white teeth put in
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ์–ผ๊ตด์— ์˜จ๊ฐ– ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ํ•˜์–€ ์น˜์•„๋ฅผ ๋„ฃ์—ˆ๊ณ ,
105:01
and obviously something to his eyes and its whole face looks weird.
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ๊ทธ์˜ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์–ผ๊ตด ์ „์ฒด๊ฐ€ ์ด์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:07
Now at that age, that pressure to change to
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ ๋‚˜์ด์—, ๋ณ€ํ™”์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ์€
105:12
I mean, he looked perfectly all right before him and suddenly these these felt this pressure.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์•ž์—์„œ๋Š” ์™„๋ฒฝํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„ ๋ณด์˜€๊ณ  ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์ด๋“ค์€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์••๋ฐ•๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:17
And of course, a lot of people are I mean, I have so many friends at work
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ง์žฅ์—
105:21
you wouldn't believe who are going it, having Botox
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๋ณดํ†ก์Šค
105:25
injections and fillers and all sorts of things.
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์ฃผ์‚ฌ์™€ ํ•„๋Ÿฌ ๋“ฑ ์˜จ๊ฐ– ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๋ฏฟ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์„ ์ •๋„๋กœ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:30
And I mean, I'm not going to make a judgement on that.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํŒ๋‹จ์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:33
But there is this pressure in society for a lot of people to do this.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‚ฌํšŒ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ์••๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:37
Louis mentions
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๋ฃจ์ด๋Š”
105:40
that when
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105:41
as you get older, health becomes the most important thing.
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๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:46
And of course it is.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
105:47
Of course if you think about it, it is the most important thing.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์ผ์ด๋‹ค.
105:51
And I've got a friend.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์—๊ฒ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
105:52
The moment is the same age as me who's been diagnosed
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๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์€ ๋ง๊ธฐ์•” ์„ ๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์€ ๋‚˜์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‚˜์ด
105:55
with terminal cancer, terminal same age as me.
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, ๋ง๊ธฐ์•”์„ ์„ ๊ณ ๋ฐ›์€ ๋‚˜์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋‚˜์ด์ด๋‹ค.
105:59
Yeah. Such a shock.
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์‘. ์ •๋ง ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:01
Yes, just retired.
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๋„ค, ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์€ํ‡ดํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:03
And as you get older, you get more and more people,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค์ˆ˜๋ก
106:07
you know, more and more people that suddenly get ill.
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๋ณ‘์— ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ ์  ๋” ๋งŽ์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:10
And it puts things in perspective.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์„ ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ์‹œ๊ฐ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ด…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:14
It puts things So you then realise that A, that health is the most important thing.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ซ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:19
It is actually at any age.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์—ฐ๋ น๋Œ€์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:22
You just don't think about it when you're younger.
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์ Š์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:24
As as as Lewis mentions, your health is in danger when you're younger.
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๋ฃจ์ด์Šค๊ฐ€ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ, ์ Š์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:29
In fact, more people, in fact, apparently once you get above about six 5560,
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด 5560 ์ •๋„๋ฅผ ๋„˜์–ด์„œ๋ฉด
106:35
if you live that long, the chances are you're going to live a long age,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์‚ฐ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์‚ด ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์ง€๋งŒ
106:39
but you're actually there's a higher death rate amongst people,
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ์‚ฌ๋ง๋ฅ ์ด ๋” ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 60์„ธ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค
106:43
sort of teenagers up to the age of 20
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20์„ธ๊นŒ์ง€์˜ ์‹ญ๋Œ€๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:46
than there is in people over sort of 60
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106:50
because they die of different things, accidents
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ, ์‚ฌ๊ณ ,
106:53
and yeah, drugs or something like that.
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๋งˆ์•ฝ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ์ฃฝ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:56
But yes, health is always the most.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
106:59
So yeah, I think I think age is something
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๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋‚˜์ด๋Š”
107:02
that people are sensitive of and drawing attention
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ฏผ๊ฐํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด๊ณ ,
107:06
in a conversation to a person's age is often seen
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๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ๋‚˜์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ๋„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข…์ข…
107:11
and as a little bit rude. Yes.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์—ฌ๊ฒจ์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์˜ˆ.
107:14
And offensive.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:15
Anyway, we must move on.
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์–ด์จŒ๋“  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ„์† ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ์ฃผ์ œ์™€ ๊ด€๋ จํ•˜์—ฌ
107:17
I've got a few more things to talk about
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๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
107:21
with this subject.
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.
107:23
Here's another one, Steve, and I think this is a good one.
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ด๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
107:25
This is another good one
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€
107:28
thing that might cause problems if you mention it or ask
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์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
107:32
too many questions.
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๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ผ์œผํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ข‹์€ ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:37
Personal relationships,
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„,
107:40
relationships, a relationship you might be having with another person,
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๊ด€๊ณ„, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋งบ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ด€๊ณ„,
107:45
maybe a romance tick relationship,
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๋กœ๋งจ์Šค ํ‹ฑ ๊ด€๊ณ„,
107:47
maybe a secret relationship,
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๋น„๋ฐ€ ๊ด€๊ณ„, ํ˜„์žฌ
107:52
maybe a relationship that you're having, and you don't want other people to know about.
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๋งบ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ด€๊ณ„ ๋“ฑ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•Œ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ด€๊ณ„์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
107:57
So personal relationships, we are often
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์ž์ฃผ ์–ด์ƒ‰
108:01
or we feel awkward.
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ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์–ด์ƒ‰ํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋‚๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:04
We feel that the subject might be difficult to talk about
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ธ๊ฐ„๊ณผ์˜ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์ฃผ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
108:09
if we talk about our personal relationship
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108:12
with another human being.
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.
108:17
Would you say?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ธ๊ฐ€?
108:18
Steve Yes, I mean, they used to, yes.
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์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ๋„ค, ์ œ ๋ง์€, ์˜ˆ์ „์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š”.
108:22
Personal relationships.
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„.
108:23
You've got to, you've got to know the person well haven't you
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ํ•ด์•ผ ๋ผ, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ž˜ ์•Œ์•„์•ผ ํ•ด, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ˆ?
108:26
you. Can, you can appear rude
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108:28
if you're asked too many, too many personal questions.
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ›์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:32
I mean generally if you're asking personal questions to somebody, you can come across
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด
108:39
as a bit rude.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:40
I mean, they used to say you didn't they?
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์ฃ ?
108:44
The less you know, sometimes the better.
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์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ ์„์ˆ˜๋ก ๋” ์ข‹์„ ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
108:47
Sometimes the less you know about somebody, the better,
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ ์„์ˆ˜๋ก ๋” ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
108:50
because you might find that something you don't like about them.
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์ ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
108:53
Yeah.
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์‘.
108:54
And it might put you off talking to them
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ํ—˜๋‹ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
108:58
and gossip.
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.
108:59
Of course, you might find that there could be all sorts of rumours
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๋ฌผ๋ก ,
109:02
and gossip going around about somebody in the war time.
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์ „์Ÿ ์ค‘์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์˜จ๊ฐ– ์†Œ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์†Œ๋ฌธ์ด ๋Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:05
They used to say, you know,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€
109:09
you don't, don't ask information.
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์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ฌป์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:11
The less you know, the better.
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์•„๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ ์„์ˆ˜๋ก ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:13
It can cost lives.
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์ƒ๋ช…์ด ํฌ์ƒ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:15
You know, if you talking or gossiping or talking, somebody can actually cost lives and in certain
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋งํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ํ—˜๋‹ดํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉด ํŠน์ • ์ƒํ™ฉ์—์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ๋ช…์„ ์žƒ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
109:21
situations.
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.
109:23
But, but yes, personal relationships, again, it's
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ,
109:26
dependent on, on the person and
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ
109:30
how well you know them. Yes.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ž˜ ์•„๋Š”์ง€์— ๋‹ฌ๋ ค ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
109:32
Maybe there is a personal relationship that you're having and maybe it goes
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
109:37
against the what I would say, the conformity
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ ์ž ํ•˜๋Š”
109:43
of of the general population.
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์ผ๋ฐ˜ ๋Œ€์ค‘์˜ ์ˆœ์‘์„ฑ์— ์–ด๊ธ‹๋‚  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:46
Maybe you are in a same sex relationship
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€
109:49
with someone of the same sex, the same gender, two ladies, two men.
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๋™์„ฑ, ๋™์„ฑ, ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ์„ฑ, ๋‘ ๋ช…์˜ ๋‚จ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋™์„ฑ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
109:55
And again, that's a personal thing.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์ผ์ด์—์š”.
109:58
Some people don't mind sharing it.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊บผ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:00
Other people want to keep it a secret, especially once again,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋น„๋ฐ€๋กœ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ํŠนํžˆ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ,
110:04
we're talking about famous people and history
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์œ ๋ช…ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
110:08
has shown that there are many celebrities who have had relationships
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์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ, ์—ญ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋งŽ์€ ์œ ๋ช…์ธ๋“ค์ด
110:14
with a person of the same gender, and they've tried to keep it a secret.
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๋™์„ฑ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ์—ˆ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋น„๋ฐ€๋กœ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋ฐ€.
110:19
They've they've kept it to themselves because they feel
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
110:22
that that is their own personal space,
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ณต๊ฐ„์ด๊ณ , ์ž์‹ ์˜
110:27
that is their own boundary,
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๊ฒฝ๊ณ„์ด๊ณ ,
110:29
and they are in that boundary.
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์ž์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„ ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ฐ„์งํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:32
And the other person they are with is also in that boundary.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ ๋„ ๊ทธ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„ ์•ˆ์— ์žˆ๋‹ค.
110:37
They share a relationship, but it is not for the public domain.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ  ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ณต๊ฐœ ๋„๋ฉ”์ธ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:43
So a personal relationship might go against what some people
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
110:47
believe to be right or normal.
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์˜ณ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ •์ƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
110:51
Of course, these days we are slightly more enlightened, so that doesn't happen
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์š”์ฆ˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์Œ์„ ์–ป์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ž์ฃผ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
110:57
so often, but it still does happen.
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์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:00
I suppose if you're going to reveal personal information
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
111:03
about yourself to somebody and let's face it,
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์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณต๊ฐœํ•˜๊ณ  ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด
111:08
most people do like to talk about themselves,
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:12
particularly if you're in a romantic relationship with somebody
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ํŠนํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ์—ฐ์•  ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
111:16
the chances of you keeping being able to keep that to yourself
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ„์† ์œ ์ง€ํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€
111:21
is going to be very slim because you will be dying to tell somebody,
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111:27
a best friend or something about this wonderful relationship,
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์ด ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€, ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋˜๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ํฌ๋ฐ•ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:31
because naturally you would want to share, probably share that information.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:35
You've got to you've really got to trust that person. Yes.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ •๋ง ๋ฏฟ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”. ์˜ˆ.
111:39
That you're telling that they're not going to pass that on to somebody.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
111:43
Ooh, do what I just found out for certain,
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์•„, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ํ™•์‹คํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ธ ์ผ, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด
111:47
such as having a relationship with, you know, gossip.
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๊ฐ€์‹ญ๊ณผ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๋“ฑ์„ ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
111:51
In fact, some of the more, the more naughty
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ๋” ์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ณ , ๋” ์žฅ๋‚œ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šธ์ˆ˜๋ก,
111:55
or the more against
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๋˜๋Š”
111:59
what is seen as normal,
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์ •์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋”
112:01
the more it goes against that, the more juicy it becomes.
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๋งŽ์ด ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋ ์ˆ˜๋ก, ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋งค๋ ฅ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:07
And that's what we often see in newspapers and in magazines when something like that is revealed
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‹ ๋ฌธ ์ด๋‚˜ ์žก์ง€์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋“œ๋Ÿฌ๋‚  ๋•Œ ์ข…์ข… ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:13
so that the more the more
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
112:17
I went to say the word sinful.
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์ฃ„๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ๋งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:19
But I think that's the wrong word to use.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:21
But you know what I mean?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ธ์ง€ ์•„์„ธ์š”?
112:23
If something is is a little bit more unusual or it becomes more entrenched.
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ํŠน์ดํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋” ํ™•๊ณ ํ•ด์ง€๋ฉด.
112:27
Well, it's like our relationship. Mr.
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๋ญ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ž‘ ๋น„์Šทํ•ด์š”.
112:29
Duncan, I didn't used to discuss it because back in the
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
112:32
you know, when we met in the late eighties,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ 80๋…„๋Œ€ ํ›„๋ฐ˜์— ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ
112:36
you know, it just suddenly it wasn't something you talked about. No.
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๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ๊ทธ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
112:40
And I used to work for a company then,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์— ๋‹ค๋…”๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ• 
112:43
and I knew full well that I couldn't about it.
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์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด๋‚˜ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:46
I might lose my job
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112:49
very easily because, you know, you know the bosses.
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๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์ƒ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ์ž˜ ์•Œ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ฃผ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ง์žฅ์„ ์žƒ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:52
You know what their views are.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฌํ•ด๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
112:54
So, you know, I had to keep it hidden.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ์ˆจ๊ฒจ์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
112:57
Mr. Duncan Yes, that's it.
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ ๋„ค, ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
112:59
But a lot of people don't even realise how hard it was in the 1990s. Yes.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ 1990๋…„๋Œ€๊ฐ€ ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€์กฐ์ฐจ ๊นจ๋‹ซ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
113:03
So this would be difficult.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:05
It is easy to think that in the 1990s everyone was more open and more cool.
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1990๋…„๋Œ€์—๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋” ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์ฟจํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:11
People would judge you.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ํŒ๋‹จํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:12
And I, you know, I was in a choir and been for a long, long time.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ํ•ฉ์ฐฝ๋‹จ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ํ™œ๋™ํ•ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:17
It was time that a lot of the people in that choir, you know, the religious people,
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๊ทธ ํ•ฉ์ฐฝ๋‹จ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ข…๊ต์ ์ธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด์š”.
113:22
because the choir is based in a church is not actually a religious choir,
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ํ•ฉ์ฐฝ๋‹จ์€ ๊ตํšŒ์— ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์„ ๋‘๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ข…๊ต ํ•ฉ์ฐฝ๋‹จ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
113:26
but a lot of people in the choir, you know, go to church.
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ํ•ฉ์ฐฝ๋‹จ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ตํšŒ์— ๊ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”. .
113:30
And yeah, I know full well that the divide
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค,
113:35
probably they
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113:35
wouldn't want me in the choir if they knew I mean now it's different
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ด์ง€๋งŒ
113:39
but back then it's not that long ago, 20 years ago.
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๊ทธ๋•Œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์˜ค๋ž˜ ์ „ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. 20๋…„ ์ „์ด์—ˆ์ฃ .
113:45
Yes, it was.
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์ข…์†Œ๋ฆฌ ์˜€์–ด์š”.
113:46
It was 30 years ago. It was still even 20 years ago.
1770
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30๋…„ ์ „์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ง๋„ 20๋…„ ์ „์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:49
I would have felt very uncomfortable telling people about our relation.
1771
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ด€๊ณ„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถˆํŽธํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
113:54
Geoff.
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113:54
Well, well, what I'm actually saying is it's very easy to forget just how difficult it was.
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์ œํ”„.
๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์–ด๋ ค์› ๋Š”์ง€ ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฝ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:00
The 1990s always seems like a slightly
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1990๋…„๋Œ€๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ์กฐ๊ธˆ
114:03
more progressive decade, but it wasn't.
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๋” ์ง„๋ณด์ ์ธ 10๋…„์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ด์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:07
You would be amazed.
1776
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋†€๋ž„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:08
We used to have all sorts of problems, to be honest.
1777
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์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์˜จ๊ฐ– ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๊ฒช์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:11
We went to Wales once.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์›จ์ผ์ฆˆ์— ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฐ”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:13
Do you remember when we've tried to stay over in Wales
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์›จ์ผ์Šค์— ๋จธ๋ฌผ๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ฐ€
114:16
and we went to this small guest house
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์ด ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒŒ์ŠคํŠธํ•˜์šฐ์Šค์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
114:19
and we knocked on the door and we said, do you have any rooms available?
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๋ฌธ์„ ๋‘๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  " ์‚ฌ์šฉ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?"๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
114:23
She says.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค.
114:24
She said to us, We don't cater for that sort of thing.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์—๊ฒŒ '์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:29
Yeah. And she slammed the door in our face.
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ฉด์ „์—์„œ ๋ฌธ์„ ์พ… ๋‹ซ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:32
We don't cater.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์Œ์‹์„ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:34
Imagine how that, how we felt about that. It wasn't nice.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋• ๋Š”์ง€, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Š๊ผˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:36
I can tell you we don't cater for that sort of thing.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์„œ๋น„์Šค๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:40
I mean, now, legally,
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๋ฒ•์ ์œผ๋กœ
114:44
that's not allowed.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ํ—ˆ์šฉ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:45
And I guess we could have progressed.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐœ์ „ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
114:47
Yeah, if that happened now, we could sue.
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์‘, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ณ ์†Œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
114:49
We could actually sue the person for it.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ณ ์†Œํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
114:51
So they go.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ฐ„๋‹ค.
114:54
Yeah, So. Exactly.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ. ์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
114:55
So you had to be careful about what you talked about.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋ง์„ ์กฐ์‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:00
You have to trust people. Still.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์–ด์•ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„์ง.
115:02
You do still you have to trust people. Yes.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ด์š”. ์˜ˆ.
115:04
But you know, if you if you're in a relationship with somebody,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋ฅผ ๋งบ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
115:07
you are going to want to know if it's a good relationship.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์€ ๊ด€๊ณ„์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:10
You are going to want to tell somebody, you know what I mean?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ธ์ง€ ์•„์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
115:13
Yes, you are going to want to.
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์˜ˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์›ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:15
I've met. I've met.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋‹ค.
115:17
she's wonderful. He's wonderful.
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๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ด์š”. ๊ทธ๋Š” ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•ด์š”.
115:19
said we love you.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
115:20
Can't keep that in.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ„์งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:22
So you've got to be able to tell somebody, but you've got to trust that person.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋ฏฟ์–ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:27
You know this, You know this. Yeah.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‘.
115:29
Personal relationships anyway,
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ด€๊ณ„๋Š” ์–ด์ฐจํ”ผ
115:32
it is possible
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115:33
to say the wrong thing so you can say the wrong thing by accident.
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์—‰๋šฑํ•œ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ์—‰๋šฑํ•œ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋‹ค.
115:39
Would you say that's true?
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
115:40
I think.
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”.
115:41
Think you can sometimes just you're not being rude, you're not being mean,
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜์ง€๋„, ์‹ฌ์ˆ ๊ถ‚์ง€๋„ ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
115:48
but sometimes you can just you can just say wrong thing.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:53
Yes, but unintentionally, yes, you can say something.
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๋„ค, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์˜๋„์น˜ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๋„ค, ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
115:59
I do that a lot, actually.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•ด์š”.
116:01
I say things.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ง์„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
116:02
Sometimes I wonder whether I express myself well enough. And
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๊ฐ€๋”์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ด ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•  ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
116:07
I think people sometimes get the, as we say, the wrong end of the stick
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋ง‰๋Œ€์˜ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
116:11
or which means they get the wrong meaning, the wrong end of the stick.
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์ด๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ์˜๋ฏธ, ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:16
It just means that, I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ง‰๋Œ€๊ธฐ์˜ ๋์„ ์ž˜๋ชป ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:20
Yeah.
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์‘.
116:21
It means you're saying you don't understand me.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:24
Let me explain further.
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๋” ์ž์„ธํžˆ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:28
Okay.
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116:28
You get the wrong idea.
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์ข‹์•„์š”.
๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:31
Yes. And you can say you can say the wrong thing and it can upset somebody.
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์˜ˆ. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
116:34
And you didn't do it intentionally, Don't you.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ง“์„ ํ•œ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
116:38
Now, would I be fair in saying that you actually have a habit, Steve,
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์ž, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€
116:44
sometimes, of saying the wrong thing?
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์Šต๊ด€์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด๋„ ๊ณตํ‰ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
116:48
I put my foot in it. Yes.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋„ฃ์—ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ. ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ
116:49
You don't you don't mean to be to be
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์˜๋„๋Š” ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
116:54
nasty, but it might come across as rude or nasty.
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๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:00
Yes, I think I think it can happen.
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๋„ค, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
117:02
And I think you you are pretty good at doing that usually,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ‰์†Œ์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ๊ฝค ์ž˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:06
because I can be quite sarcastic and
1836
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
117:11
it. Yeah.
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. ์‘.
117:12
And if you put your foot in it it means you say something.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋„ฃ์œผ๋ฉด ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:16
I think we explain that to you.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์„ค๋ช…ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:17
I don't think we use that expression. No.
1840
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
117:20
Well I'm showing it now on the screen you put your foot,
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์•„๋‹ˆ์š”. ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ฐœ์„
117:23
you put your foot in your mouth,
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์ž…์— ๋„ฃ๊ณ 
117:26
you can put your foot in your mouth.
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๋ฐœ์„ ์ž…์— ๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:29
It means you say something really stupid,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์–ด๋ฆฌ์„์€ ๋ง,
117:32
something that other people might take the wrong way.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๊ธธ๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:35
It might appear offensive to someone else.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:39
You put your foot in your mouth or you can just say you put your foot in it. Yes.
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๋ฐœ์„ ์ž…์— ๋„ฃ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฐœ์„ ์ž…์— ๋„ฃ์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
117:43
And that could also mean, I think put your foot in
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ๊ฐœ๋˜ฅ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋‹ด๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
117:47
dog poo.
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117:47
Can't you put your foot in it.
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.
๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋„ฃ์„ ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์—†๋‚˜์š”?
117:50
Well, I think that's what it's referring to.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
117:52
You've you've you've stepped into something that's unpleasant. Yes.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ ์ผ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋“ค์—ฌ๋†“์€ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ.
117:56
You stepped into something unpleasant.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ ์ผ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋“ค์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
117:57
Obviously, if you step into dog poo.
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ, ๊ฐœ๋˜ฅ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๋ฉด.
117:59
Yeah, that's very unpleasant.
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์‘, ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์ •๋ง ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•ด.
118:00
And embarrassing and smelly and nasty.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ƒ„์ƒˆ๋‚˜๊ณ  ์—ญ๊ฒจ์›Œ์š”.
118:04
So if you put your foot in it in terms of
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
118:07
something you said in a conversation, it means you said something nasty,
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๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ๋งํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ฐœ์„ ๋‹ด๊ทธ๋ฉด ์ด๋Š” ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•œ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:13
you know, something you probably it's an accident
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118:16
because stepping in dog poo is an accident.
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๊ฐœ๋˜ฅ์„ ๋ฐŸ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์•„๋งˆ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:19
You don't do it. Intention lightly.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๋„๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋ณ๊ฒŒ.
118:21
Yes, but you put your foot put my foot in it, you know, here's another one.
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์˜ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฐœ์„ ๋„ฃ์œผ๋ฉด ๋‚ด ๋ฐœ์ด ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:26
You let the cat out of the bag by revealing a secret.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ํญ๋กœํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ ๊ณ ์–‘์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ๊บผ๋‚ด๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:31
And I think maybe you you almost mentioned this earlier.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ด๋ฏธ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
118:35
So you let out something.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋†“์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:36
You let out a secret, You gave out information you didn't mean to.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ๋ˆ„์„คํ–ˆ๊ณ , ์˜๋„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋ˆ„์„คํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:42
You accidentally gave away a secret.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋กœ ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ๋ˆ„์„คํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:46
You revealed something.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐํ˜”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:48
You let the cat out of the bag.
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๊ณ ์–‘์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฐฉ์—์„œ ๊บผ๋‚ด์„ธ์š”.
118:51
A slip of the tongue.
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๋ง์‹ค์ˆ˜.
118:52
Thank you. Valentyn is another
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๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. Valentyn์€ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ
118:57
slip of the tongue.
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์‹ค์ˆ˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
118:58
I didn't mean to say that. That's it.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์•ผ.
119:00
That's simply to put your foot in it. Slip of the tongue.
1874
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹จ์ˆœํžˆ ๋ฐœ์„ ๋‹ด๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ˜€์˜ ๋ฏธ๋„๋Ÿฌ์ง.
119:03
I didn't mean to say that. Sorry.
1875
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”. ์ฃ„์†กํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:04
There it is on the screen now.
1876
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์ง€๊ธˆ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๋‚˜์™€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:07
I'll write a Bloody Valentine Valentine's ahead of the game.
1877
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๊ฒŒ์ž„์— ์•ž์„œ ๋ธ”๋Ÿฌ๋”” ๋ฐœ๋ Œํƒ€์ธ ๋ฐœ๋ Œํƒ€์ธ์„ ์“ธ๊ฒŒ์š”.
119:10
A slip of the tongue is something said by mistake.
1878
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ํ˜€์˜ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋กœ ๋งํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:15
You didn't mean to say it.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งํ•  ์˜๋„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:16
It was accidental.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ์—ฐ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:18
You said it, but you said it accidentally.
1881
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜
119:22
You did not me to say it again.
1882
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ํ•œํ…Œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•œ ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ž–์•„.
119:25
Olga.
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์˜ฌ๊ฐ€.
119:26
You see, Olga's touched on another point, which other people have mentioned earlier
1884
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, Olga๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์•ž์„œ
119:30
about the way you say something.
1885
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ•œ ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์š”์ ์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:33
Olga says often worry about words.
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์˜ฌ๊ฐ€๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๋ง์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:35
I said, If my words can be interpreted rudely,
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๋‚˜๋Š” '๋‚ด ๋ง์ด ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์„๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
119:41
yes, but if you're going to be rude,
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒ ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฌด๋ก€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๊ตด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
119:44
you would be saying it with a certain tone of voice and expression.
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ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ์–ด์กฐ์™€ ํ‘œ์ •์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
119:49
So if you say words,
1890
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜,
119:52
if you
1891
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119:53
say something that does upset somebody, if you're not doing it intentionally,
1892
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ™”๋‚˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ํ–‰๋™์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋ฉด,
119:57
they will probably be know from your expression in your tone
1893
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋งํˆฌ๋ฅผ ํ†ตํ•ด
120:02
that you didn't mean to be offensive.
1894
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ถˆ์พŒํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ์˜๋„๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:05
So I don't think there's any need to really worry too much, about that.
1895
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•  ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
120:09
Yes, you often know when a person is being sarcastic, they let you know somehow,
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์˜ˆ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ข…์ข… ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ƒ‰์†Œ์ ์ธ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๋ณดํ†ต ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ํ†ค์œผ๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ค€๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:14
normally with the tone of their voice, maybe if you've been meeting up with someone
1897
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋งŒ๋‚ฌ๋Š”๋ฐ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
120:19
and they've been waiting for you and you're late, they might say,
1898
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๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ธฐ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Šฆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
120:24
it's nice to see you here on time,
1899
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๋งž์ถฐ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ๋ฐ˜๊ฐ‘๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„
120:28
but your tone of the voice,
1900
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ํ†ค,
120:30
the tone of your voice is saying the opposite.
1901
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ํ†ค์€ ๊ทธ ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:33
So sarcasm can be quite subtle where you are saying something positive,
1902
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋นˆ์ •๊ฑฐ๋ฆผ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ฏธ๋ฌ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
120:38
but you are expressing it in a negative way.
1903
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.
120:42
And finally, of course, you can just let something slip out.
1904
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋งˆ์ง€๋ง‰์œผ๋กœ, ๋ฌผ๋ก  ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ๋†”๋‘˜ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:48
You let some things slip out.
1905
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ผ์„ ๋น ์ ธ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ฒŒํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:50
Maybe you are going away and having a secret wedding
1906
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์–ด์ฉŒ๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋น„๋ฐ€ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ์‹์„ ๋– ๋‚˜์„œ
120:54
with your lover and you tell your best friend.
1907
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
120:57
But they accidentally tell someone else.
1908
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ์—ฐํžˆ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:00
They let it slip out.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋น ์ ธ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋„๋ก ๋‚ด๋ฒ„๋ ค๋‘์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
121:03
It becomes knowledge to others
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์ง€์‹์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
121:07
because you you mentioned it or you said it.
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.
121:11
In fact, yes, it's very difficult.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:12
If somebody tells you a secret. It's very difficult.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ๋งํ•ด ์ค€๋‹ค๋ฉด. ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์š”.
121:15
Sometimes some people can keep secrets,
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋น„๋ฐ€์„ ์ง€ํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ
121:18
other people can't you?
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
121:22
It's you know, we all know the people that can't.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:25
And you soon find out who those you know, if people come to you and tell you information
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€ ๊ณง ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ์™€์„œ
121:29
about who people at work,
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์ง์žฅ์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
121:32
you probably know that that's not the person to go and tell
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ
121:36
any confidential information to is if they're telling it to you.
1920
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๊ธฐ๋ฐ€ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์„œ ๋งํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. .
121:40
You've often said this about we've got a neighbour here
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ž์ฃผ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:44
near us who you go to visit them and they will certainly tell you
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ทผ์ฒ˜์— ์ด์›ƒ์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ
121:49
all about that, the other neighbours and what they're doing and what they've said.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์›ƒ๋“ค ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์„ ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋งํ•ด ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
121:53
And you just think to yourself and I better be carefully telling this person
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์ •๋ณด๋ผ๋„ ์ฃผ์˜ ๊นŠ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
121:57
any information, because if they're telling me about other people
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. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
122:02
you can bet that they are
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ป์€
122:04
telling other neighbours about information they get from about me. Yes.
1927
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์ •๋ณด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์›ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™•์‹ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜ˆ.
122:08
That's how, that's how a gossip.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ฐ€์‹ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:11
A person who gossips is a person
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ํ—˜๋‹ด์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€
122:13
who gets information by other people by getting them to trust them.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์‹ ๋ขฐ๋ฅผ ์–ป์–ด์„œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์–ป๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:18
And so you can get all of that information from other people.
1931
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ
122:21
And then and then you go round and and give them information about yourself
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๋‹ค์Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋Œ์•„๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๊ณ 
122:27
and then they tell other people about.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:30
And I think gossiping, I think it's one of the worst
1934
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ํ—˜๋‹ด์€
122:35
of all of the the things that people do to others.
1935
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ ์ค‘์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:39
I think gossiping is the worse, I think gossiping.
1936
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ—˜๋‹ด์ด ๋” ๋‚˜์˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:42
Mr. Duncan, I love it. I know you do.
1937
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ, ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์•„์š”. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:45
I hear you sometimes.
1938
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๊ฐ€๋” ๋“ค๋ ค์š”.
122:46
I'm a horrible person.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋”์ฐํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‹ค.
122:49
You might be.
1940
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๋„ˆ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ.
122:50
Sometimes Rhubarb says that I look red.
1941
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™ฉ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋นจ๊ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
122:54
I look red.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋นจ๊ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์ธ๋‹ค.
122:55
I It's probably blood pressure. Yes.
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I ์•„๋งˆ ํ˜ˆ์••์ผ ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”. ์˜ˆ.
122:59
I don't know.
1944
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:00
It says he's joking, but I'm not sure
1945
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๋†๋‹ด์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
123:04
I won't take offence.
1946
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ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์ง€ ์•Š์„์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:06
You haven't dropped your.
1947
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋–จ์–ด๋œจ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:08
You haven't put your foot in it. No.
1948
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋ฐœ์„ ๋„ฃ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”.
123:09
You haven't made a mistake in that comment.
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๊ทธ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์—๋Š” ์‹ค์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:11
That's not a problem.
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:12
Don't worry about.
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๊ฑฑ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
123:16
yeah, there we go.
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์‘, ๋์–ด.
123:17
Yeah. So you've.
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์‘. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:18
You've had a little donation. Mr. Duncan.
1954
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์ž‘์€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
123:21
Thank you very much to Arielle for your donation.
1955
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๊ธฐ๋ถ€ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹  Arielle์—๊ฒŒ ์ง„์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:24
Thank you very much. It's very kind of you.
1956
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ˆ ์ •๋ง ์นœ์ ˆ ํ•˜๊ตฌ๋‚˜.
123:26
I will treat that like a little Christmas gift.
1957
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์ž‘์€ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์„ ๋ฌผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:30
Thank you very much. That's very kind of you.
1958
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •๋ง ์นœ์ ˆ ํ•˜๊ตฌ๋‚˜.
123:32
And by the way, if anyone wants to, to make a small donation
1959
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
123:36
at this time of because, of course, everything I do, I do it for free.
1960
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์ด ์‹œ๊ธฐ์— ์†Œ์•ก ๊ธฐ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ์€ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:41
And there it is now on the screen.
1961
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด์ œ ๊ทธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:43
So that is my address for any donations.
1962
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ€๊ธˆ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋‚ด ์ฃผ์†Œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:47
If you want to send a little donation, you are more than welcome to do so.
1963
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ธฐ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์…”๋„ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:51
I do everything here for free.
1964
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฌด๋ฃŒ๋กœ ํ•œ๋‹ค.
123:53
I never charge for this.
1965
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ฒฐ์ฝ” ๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ฒญ๊ตฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
123:56
So if you want to make a donation you are welcome to on the live chat
1966
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๊ธฐ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ผ์ด๋ธŒ ์ฑ„ํŒ…
123:59
or of course, to the address that is on the screen right now.
1967
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์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์ฃผ์†Œ๋กœ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•˜์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:05
Thank you very much advance.
1968
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๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:08
And I would say Mr.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”
124:10
Steve that is that's 2 hours we've been all. Mr.
1970
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Steve ์”จ์—๊ฒŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๋‚ธ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ 2์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:15
Duncan Yes.
1971
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๋˜์ปจ ์”จ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
124:16
Because Now you are comfortable in your cosy corner.
1972
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ด์ œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์•„๋Š‘ํ•œ ๊ตฌ์„์—์„œ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ง€๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ
124:19
does this mean I have to stay on for 2 hours every Sunday now?
1973
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์ด์ œ ๋งค์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ๋งˆ๋‹ค 2์‹œ๊ฐ„์”ฉ ์žˆ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
124:22
Well, you see, I.
1974
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์Œ, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
124:24
I think next Sunday we will be here for 2 hours because it's Christmas Eve.
1975
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ์ด ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— 2์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š” .
124:30
So we have a lot of things to show.
1976
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค„ ๊ฒŒ โ€‹โ€‹๋งŽ์•„์š”.
124:32
We will be talking about Christmas traditions.
1977
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ „ํ†ต์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:35
We will be talking about stories connected to Christmas. Mr.
1978
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์™€ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . Mr.
124:39
Steve will be reading out some lovely poetry and we will show you
1979
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4888
Steve๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์‹œ๋ฅผ ๋‚ญ๋…ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ • ์ด๋ฉฐ
124:44
all Christmas cards for 2023.
1980
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2023๋…„ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์นด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ๋‘ ๋ณด์—ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:49
So there is a lot to do next Sunday, Christmas Eve.
1981
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ผ์š”์ผ์ธ ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ์—๋Š” ํ•  ์ผ์ด ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:54
We are with you.
1982
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
124:56
And I have to say, I'm really looking forward to it. Yes.
1983
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3002
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ •๋ง๋กœ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ.
124:59
Make sure you've wrapped all your presents. Yes.
1984
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์„ ๋ฌผ์„ ๋ชจ๋‘ ํฌ์žฅํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ์˜ˆ.
125:02
If you celebrate Christmas, of course. Yes.
1985
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋…ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”. ์˜ˆ.
125:04
Make sure you've wrapped them all.
1986
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๋ชจ๋‘ ํฌ์žฅํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
125:06
Get everything done prepared and be ready for 2:00 next Sunday.
1987
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ค€๋น„๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์น˜๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ 2์‹œ๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
125:11
No excuses.
1988
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๋ณ€๋ช…ํ•˜์ง€.
125:15
There is no excuse whatsoever whatsoever.
1989
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์–ด๋– ํ•œ ๋ณ€๋ช…์˜ ์—ฌ์ง€๋„ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:20
Thank you, Mr. Steele. Thank you, Mr. Duncan.
1990
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๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ธ ์”จ. ๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
125:22
Thank you, Mr. Steele.
1991
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1018
๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ธ ์”จ.
125:23
I've enjoyed it.
1992
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1084
๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ๊ฒผ๋‹ค.
125:24
Thank you. Wonderful viewers from around the world.
1993
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2253
๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„์˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„.
125:27
I must say, I do feel more relaxed sitting down. Yes.
1994
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4387
์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ข€ ๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”. ์˜ˆ.
125:31
Normally my hips aching,
1995
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ํ‰์†Œ๋ผ๋ฉด ์—‰๋ฉ์ด๊ฐ€ ์•„ํ”„๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
125:34
you know, I would have been aching an hour ago,
1996
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ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ „์—๋Š” ์•„ํŒ ์„ ํ…๋ฐ
125:38
but they've they've been fine, so.
1997
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3220
์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„์กŒ์–ด์š”.
125:41
Yeah, great. I look forward to next Sunday.
1998
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์‘, ์ข‹์•„. ๋‹ค์Œ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ์„ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:43
Yeah, I think.
1999
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์‘, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”.
125:44
I think this.
2000
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐ ํ•ด์š”. ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ,
125:46
This new cosy corner of yours, Mr.
2001
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3453
๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์•„๋Š‘ํ•œ ์ฝ”๋„ˆ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
125:49
Steve. I think it is a very good idea.
2002
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. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
125:52
I would say that this is the way things will be from now on.
2003
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์ด์ œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์ƒํ™ฉ์€ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
125:57
And Steve will be sitting in the corner looking all cosy and relaxed.
2004
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5305
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ๋Š” ์•„๋Š‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฌ์œ ๋กœ์šด ๋ชจ์Šต์œผ๋กœ ๊ตฌ์„์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
126:02
So we will see you next week. Steve.
2005
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‹ค์Œ์ฃผ์— ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ.
126:05
All right, Mr. Duncan.
2006
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1451
์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋˜์ปจ ์”จ.
126:07
Have a lovely week, everyone.
2007
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๋ชจ๋‘๋“ค ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์šด ํ•œ ์ฃผ ๋ณด๋‚ด์„ธ์š”.
126:08
I hope you learn some English.
2008
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1185
๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์ข€ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:10
I hope you've learnt something today and see you next week.
2009
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2586
์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์› ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๋ฉฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:12
Thank you, Mr. Steve.
2010
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2402
๊ณ ๋งˆ์›Œ์š”, ์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ธŒ ์”จ.
126:15
And there he goes.
2011
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2870
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฐ„๋‹ค.
126:17
Steve will be back with us next week.
2012
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2969
Steve๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋Œ์•„์˜ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:20
I will be with you.
2013
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1619
๋‚˜๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ž‘์žˆ์„ ๊บผ์•ผ.
126:22
guess what? I'm with you on Wednesday.
2014
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๋ญ”์ง€ ๋งž์ถฐ๋ด? ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์— ๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:24
Don't forget I'm with you on Wednesday with my English addict Extra.
2015
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4771
์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์—๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ค‘๋…์ž์ธ Extra์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
126:29
You can watch this all over again as well
2016
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์ด ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
126:33
you can watch the whole 2 hours again and there will be captions.
2017
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5189
2์‹œ๊ฐ„ ์ „์ฒด๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์บก์…˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:38
Can I just say there will be captions?
2018
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2602
์บก์…˜์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋„
126:41
Don't forget to give me a lovely like as well.
2019
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3003
์‚ฌ๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ข‹์•„์š”๋ฅผ ์ฃผ์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
126:44
Thank you very much.
2020
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1351
๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:46
It would be ever so nice if you could do that.
2021
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3637
๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
126:49
I will see you later.
2022
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1769
๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:51
That is all I have for today.
2023
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3320
์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ „๋ถ€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:54
I think we will call it a day.
2024
7614979
3704
๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
126:58
That's what you do when you say goodbye.
2025
7618766
2970
๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ž‘๋ณ„ ์ธ์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•  ๋•Œ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:01
When you and
2026
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2469
๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ
127:04
you say that you will call it a day.
2027
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3454
๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ. ์ด์ œ๋Š”
127:07
It is time to call it a day.
2028
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2519
ํ•˜๋ฃจ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:10
And I will see you on Wednesday from 2 p.m.
2029
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3120
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์š”์ผ ์˜คํ›„ 2์‹œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:13
UK time.
2030
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884
์˜๊ตญ ์‹œ๊ฐ„.
127:14
Enjoy the rest of your Sunday if you are preparing for Christmas.
2031
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4138
ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ณ„์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‚จ์€ ์ผ์š”์ผ ์ฆ๊ฒ๊ฒŒ ๋ณด๋‚ด์„ธ์š”.
127:18
I hope those preparations go well.
2032
7638686
2786
๊ทธ ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ์ง„ํ–‰๋˜๊ธธ ๋ฐ”๋ž๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:21
Don't forget we are back next week from 2 p.m.
2033
7641472
4438
๋‹ค์Œ์ฃผ ์˜คํ›„ 2์‹œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๋Œ์•„์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ ์žŠ์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
127:25
UK time as well.
2034
7645910
1835
์˜๊ตญ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ณ .
127:27
Next Sunday, Christmas Eve we will be with you for 2 hours, I promise.
2035
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4838
๋‹ค์Œ์ฃผ ์ผ์š”์ผ, ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค ์ด๋ธŒ์—๋Š” 2์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•ฝ์†ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:32
See you later.
2036
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋ด์š”.
127:33
This is Mr.
2037
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127:34
Duncan in the birthplace of English, saying Thank you for watching.
2038
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3704
์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด์˜ ํƒ„์ƒ์ง€ ๋˜์ปจ์”จ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:37
See you soon.
2039
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๊ณง ๋ด์š”.
127:39
And of course, until the next time
2040
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2986
๋ฌผ๋ก , ๋‹ค์Œ์—
127:42
we meet here on YouTube, you know what's coming next?
2041
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4171
์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ YouTube์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚  ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋‹ค์Œ์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚ ์ง€ ์•„์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
127:46
Yes, you do.
2042
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4271
๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
127:50
Stay happy.
2043
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1268
ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
127:52
Keep that smile on your face.
2044
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2036
๊ทธ ๋ฏธ์†Œ๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์† ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
127:54
And of course...
2045
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1418
๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก ...
127:57
ta ta for now.
2046
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