British People Give Advice on Mental Health | Easy English 79

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Hello, welcome to Easy English. So today,ย  I'm on the beach to find out how important
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š”, Easy English์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์˜ค๋Š˜์€
00:05
mental health is to Brits,ย  and how they maintain it.
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์˜๊ตญ์ธ์—๊ฒŒ ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ์ง€, ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ์•„๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ•ด๋ณ€์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:08
Let's go. ย ย 
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๊ฐ‘์‹œ๋‹ค.
00:24
How do you look after your mental health? ย  Well, you caught me here on my lunch time walk,
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์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ๋ณด๋‚˜์š”? ์Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ ์‹ฌ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์žก์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
00:30
which I use for my mental health. ย  I work at home, as a lot people are,
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. ์ €๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋“ฏ์ด ์ง‘์—์„œ ์ผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:36
Iโ€™m sitting in front of a computerย  for eight hours a day in my bedroom.
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์นจ์‹ค์—์„œ ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— 8์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ์•ž์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:42
So, to stop me bouncing offย  the walls (of) that bedroom,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์นจ์‹ค์˜ ๋ฒฝ์—์„œ ํŠ•๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ ค๋ฉด
00:45
I realise I need to get outside,ย  even if it's just quarter of an hour,
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15๋ถ„,
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half an hour, an hour. Ermโ€ฆย  sometimes I forget, and by Wednesday,
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30๋ถ„, 1์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๋ผ๋„ ๋ฐ–์— ๋‚˜๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ... ๊ฐ€๋” ์žŠ์–ด๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ˆ˜์š”์ผ์ด ๋˜๋ฉด
00:54
I'm snapping at the children,ย  I'm not a nice person.
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์•„์ด๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋Š”๋ฐ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฐฉํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—์š”.
00:58
So I try and get out on this lovely walk,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ด ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ์‹œ๋„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:01
we live in a wonderful place by the sea,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฐ”๋‹ค ์˜†์˜ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์žฅ์†Œ์— ์‚ด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:03
and just having a stroll just clears your head,
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์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ง‘์•„์ง€๊ณ 
01:06
lets your thoughts drift away a bit.ย ย 
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์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:09
And that, I find really helps. Theย  best way for me to manage mental health,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ๋„์›€์ด ๋œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ๊ด€๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€
01:13
is to make sure I'm doing bitย  of exercise, so I'm eating well,
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์šด๋™์„ ํ•ด์„œ ์ž˜ ๋จน๊ณ ,
01:17
I'm doing exercise and I'm keepingย  contact with the people that I love. So,ย ย 
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์šด๋™์„ ํ•˜๊ณ , ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๋ฝ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
01:22
whether its messaging orย  meeting up with, for coffee,
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๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋“  ๋งŒ๋‚˜๋“  ์ปคํ”ผ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
01:26
some friends or family. How do you maintain yourย  mental health? โ€“ Thatโ€™s a very good question!
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์นœ๊ตฌ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š” ? โ€“ ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค!
01:33
I think, as you get older and I'm well over sixty,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์ด๊ฐ€ ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ 60์„ธ๊ฐ€ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋„˜์„์ˆ˜๋ก
01:38
I think as you get older,ย  your brain needs more and more
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‘๋‡Œ๋Š” ์ ์  ๋”
01:42
and more exercise, so the fact thatย  your teaching foreign languages
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๋งŽ์€ ์šด๋™์„ ํ•„์š”๋กœ ํ•˜๋ฏ€๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์™ธ๊ตญ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
01:46
I think is brilliant for anyone,ย  anyone at any age to consider,
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๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ๋‚˜ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์—ฐ๋ น
01:50
but especially the over fifties and sixties,
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์ด์ง€๋งŒ ํŠนํžˆ 50๋Œ€์™€ 60๋Œ€ ์ด์ƒ์€
01:54
because it has been proven over and over again,
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01:57
that learning a new skillย  can actually help prevent
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์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
02:01
your memory really deteriorating. Howย  do you look after your mental health?
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๊ธฐ์–ต๋ ฅ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ €ํ•˜๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฉ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ์ž…์ฆ๋˜์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Œ๋ณด๋‚˜์š”?
02:07
So for me, I thinkโ€ฆ so my jobโ€™sย  quite stressful, first and foremost,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”โ€ฆ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ง์—…์€ ๋ฌด์—‡๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๊ฐ€ ๋งŽ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:12
so I'm quite big on having aย  separation between my professional life
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
02:16
and my personal life, particularlyย  in the last twelve months,
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ง€๋‚œ 12๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ
02:18
when I've had to work from home, every day,
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์ผ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ์ง์žฅ ์ƒํ™œ๊ณผ ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ƒํ™œ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ํฐ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฐ›์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง‘์—์„œ ๋งค์ผ
02:20
having that distinction betweenย  professional and personal
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์—…๋ฌด์™€ ๊ฐœ์ธ์„ ๊ตฌ๋ถ„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด
02:22
has been quite important to me.ย  And also, I exercise quite a lot,
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์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜ํ•œ ์šด๋™์„ ๊ฝค ๋งŽ์ด ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šด๋™์„ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜์ง€
02:26
I do find that if Iโ€™ve gone a week or two without
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์•Š๊ณ  1~2์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
02:29
doing too much exercise, myโ€ฆ Iโ€™mย  sure youโ€ฆ youโ€™ll vouch for this;
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์ œโ€ฆ
02:33
my mood starts toโ€ฆ sort of, Iโ€ฆย  I go within myself a little bit
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๋‚ด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์€... ์ผ์ข…์˜, ๋‚˜... ๋‚ด ์ž์‹ ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋“ค์—ฌ๋‹ค๋ณธ
02:36
and then I think, it onlyโ€ฆย  it's only from experience
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๋‹ค์Œ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹จ์ง€... ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ†ตํ•ด์„œ๋งŒ
02:40
that I now realise that that's like, theย  trigger. I think for me, the two most importantย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐฉ์•„์‡ ์™€ ๊ฐ™๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ด์ œ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ €๋ฅผ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋‘
02:45
things that I've identified
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๊ฐ€์ง€๋Š”
02:48
that keep me healthy is ermโ€ฆ myย  physical health and being active
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์Œ... ์‹ ์ฒด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๊ณผ ํ™œ๋™์ ์ด๋ฉฐ
02:56
and having some sort of hobbyย  that I can get my teeth into
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์ด๋นจ์„ ๊ฐˆ๊ณ 
03:01
and have targets and thingsย  like that and measure progress.
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๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ธก์ •ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ทจ๋ฏธ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง„์ „.
03:04
Ermโ€ฆ and see that there'sย  some kind of relevance andโ€ฆ
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์Œโ€ฆ ๋‚ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ด€๋ จ์„ฑ๊ณผโ€ฆ
03:08
and usefulness to my time beingย  spent, I think that's quite good.
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03:12
and the other one is relationshipsย  and people around me.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ด€๊ณ„ ์™€ ์ฃผ๋ณ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:15
So, my partner and friends and things like that,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ํŒŒํŠธ๋„ˆ, ์นœ๊ตฌ, ๊ทธ์™€ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค๋„
03:19
I think that's also timeย  that's well spent and valuable
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03:23
to us as individuals for our own health. ย ย 
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๊ฐœ์ธ์œผ๋กœ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์†Œ์ค‘ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:26
I think talking about it to youย  know, someone comfortable with
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๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ํŽธ์•ˆํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
03:30
is the nicest way, I'd say. You know like,
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:33
if one of us is struggling weย  just kind of, tell each other
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ช…์ด ์–ด๋ ค์›€์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์„œ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋ฉด
03:35
and the other can help. What do you say?
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
03:39
Yeah, I just talk to people and beย  honest with the closest you have.
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์˜ˆ, ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:42
Like family or friends? โ€“ Yeah, family, friends,
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด๋‚˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ? โ€“ ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ฐ€์กฑ, ์นœ๊ตฌ,
03:45
girlfriend or boyfriend, just talk. Right well,ย  I think there are a number of aspects to it.
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์—ฌ์ž ์นœ๊ตฌ ๋˜๋Š” ๋‚จ์ž ์นœ๊ตฌ, ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:50
Ermโ€ฆ one connected with whereย  I am at the moment is the erโ€ฆ
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์Œ... ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์Œ...
03:55
the physical side of it and throughย  erโ€ฆ walking ermโ€ฆ on a regular basis,
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์œก์ฒด์ ์ธ ์ธก๋ฉด๊ณผ ์Œ... ๊ฑท๋Š” ์Œ... ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ,
04:03
but that entails alsoโ€ฆ sometimes,ย  being with a group of people
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ... ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ, ํ•œ ๋ฌด๋ฆฌ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜
04:08
and engaging in conversationย  ermโ€ฆ everyโ€ฆ everyday conversation
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์žˆ๊ณ  ๋Œ€ํ™”์— ์ฐธ์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฐ˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค ์Œ... โ€ฆ ๋ชจ๋“ โ€ฆ
04:15
and that to some people erโ€ฆ who live alone.
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04:19
I don't actually live alone,ย  have been happily married
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ด์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
04:22
for nearly fifty years but you know,
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๊ฑฐ์˜ 50๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ํ–‰๋ณตํ•œ ๊ฒฐํ˜ผ ์ƒํ™œ์„ ํ•ด์™”์ง€๋งŒ ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ด ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ•˜๋Š”
04:25
a lot of people who come onย  these walks do live alone,
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๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ํ˜ผ์ž ์‚ด๊ณ 
04:28
spend a lot of time alone, butย  erโ€ฆ something like a health walk
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๋งŽ์€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํ˜ผ์ž ๋ณด๋‚ด์ง€๋งŒ ์Œโ€ฆ ์ •๊ธฐ์ ์œผ๋กœ
04:33
gives folk the opportunity to comeย  out and meet other people on aโ€ฆ
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๋‚˜์™€์„œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ์™€
04:39
on a regular basis and combineย  physical and mental activity. ย ย 
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์‹ ์ฒด์ , ์ •์‹ ์  ํ™œ๋™์„ ๊ฒฐํ•ฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธฐํšŒ.
04:44
I'm a bit more of the lis...ย  look after the little things.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ข€ ๋” ๋ฆฌ์Šค... ์‚ฌ์†Œํ•œ ์ผ์„ ๋Œ๋ด.
04:46
So for me, I have a bath every day.ย  Like, onโ€ฆ completely on my own,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ๋งค์ผ ๋ชฉ์š•์„ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด... ์™„์ „ํžˆ ํ˜ผ์ž
04:52
put on candles and just sit,ย  at whatever time that is.
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์ด›๋ถˆ์„ ์ผœ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ธ์ œ๋“ ์ง€.
04:54
And sometimes thatโ€™s at likeย  eight oโ€™clock in the morning,
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์•„์นจ 8์‹œ์ฏค์ด๊ณ 
04:56
sometimes it's a lunchย  time. - Very Blanche Dubois.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ ์‹ฌ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์•„์ฃผ ๋ธ”๋ž‘์‰ฌ ๋’ค๋ถ€์•„.
04:59
Yeah, and sometimes itโ€™s lateย  at night and I think as well,
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ€๋”์€ ๋ฐค์ด ๊นŠ์–ด์„œ ์ €๋„
05:03
I am very open about how I feel about things.
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์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
05:06
So if I'm you know, I'm feeling low,ย  I'll talk to my friends about it,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋‚˜
05:10
or you, or my family and againย  I've been, quite fortunate I think,
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๋‹น์‹ , ๋˜๋Š” ์ œ ๊ฐ€์กฑ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:13
being open with it, has really helped, generally.
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, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ.
05:18
And yeah, I think the littleย  things like, for example,
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๋„ค, ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์ œ๊ฐ€
05:20
my favourite tea in the world is jacket potato.
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์„ธ์ƒ์—์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ฐจ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์€ ์žฌํ‚ท ํฌํ…Œ์ดํ† ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:22
So if Iโ€™m like, if I haveย  a day where I feel rubbish,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ข‹์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋‚ ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
05:25
I go home, have a bath, have a jacketย  potato and just take some time,
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๋ชฉ์š•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žฌํ‚ท ๊ฐ์ž๋ฅผ ๋จน๊ณ  ํ˜ผ์ž๋งŒ์˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:28
just on my own. What would you prioritise more?
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. ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ๋” ์šฐ์„ ์‹œ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:32
Do you see physical health beingย  more of a priority or metal health?
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์‹ ์ฒด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๊ธˆ์† ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ณด์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:36
Oh, thatโ€™s so difficult, wellย  I think one leads to the other.
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์•„, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์–ด๋ ต๋„ค์š”. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”. ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋กœ ์ด์–ด์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์‹ ์ฒด ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ์—†์ด๋Š”
06:39
I don't think you can have goodย  mental health without physical health.
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์ข‹์€ ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ๊ฐ€์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
06:44
And I don't think and I'm no expert,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋„ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ณ 
06:47
although I am a qualified nutritionist,
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์ž๊ฒฉ์„ ๊ฐ–์ถ˜ ์˜์–‘์‚ฌ์ด์ง€๋งŒ
06:50
I don't think there is anythingย  better than a walk by the sea
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๋ฐ”๋‹ค์™€ ์‹ ์„ ํ•œ ๊ณต๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ข‹์€ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:54
and fresh air. And you know, if you're stressed;
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด;
06:58
we're all stressed, everybody isย  feeling despondent at the moment.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ํ˜„์žฌ ๋‚™๋‹ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:02
It's notโ€ฆ we've had a very unhappyย  time for nearly eighteen months,
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€... ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ 18๊ฐœ์›” ๋™์•ˆ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋ƒˆ๊ธฐ
07:07
so we're all suffering fromย  some sort of mental downturn
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋ชจ๋‘๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ •์‹ ์  ์นจ์ฒด๋ฅผ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:12
and I think that every expertย  would agree that the more exercise
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ „๋ฌธ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•œ ํ•œ ์ž์—ฐ์—์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ์šด๋™์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋™์˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:16
you can do, preferably out inย  nature, the better youโ€™ll feel.
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๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋‚˜์•„์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:19
So I think one canโ€™t go without the other.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์—†์ด๋Š” ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:21
Yeah, okay, I have one moreย  question. - And plenty of sleep.
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๋„ค, ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . - ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•œ ์ˆ˜๋ฉด.
07:25
And sleep yeah, thatโ€™s super important. ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž ์„ ์ž์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„์ฃผ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:27
Why include walking in this? Like,ย  why are you not just meeting in like,
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฑท๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํฌํ•จ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์™œ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ฑด๋ฌผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ 
07:30
aโ€ฆ yeah, like, a building orย  something? - Oh right, very good.
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? - ์•„ ๋งž๋‹ค, ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์•„.
07:36
Well there are some people who like sitting down
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07:38
in pubs and coffee ermโ€ฆ lounges.
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์ˆ ์ง‘์ด๋‚˜ ์ปคํ”ผ ์Œโ€ฆ ๋ผ์šด์ง€์— ์•‰์•„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:42
And there are others whoย  like to be a bit more dynamic
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ข€ ๋” ์—ญ๋™์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:47
โ€˜cos theyโ€™re ermโ€ฆ theyโ€™re engaging and erโ€ฆ yeah,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์Œ... ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋งค๋ ฅ์ ์ด๊ณ  ์–ด... ์˜ˆ,
07:53
Iโ€ฆ I think most people likeย  the combination of the physical
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์ €๋Š”... ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์œก์ฒด์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ์ •์‹ ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์กฐํ•ฉ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:58
and the mental. โ€“ And is there aย  correlation between mental health
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. โ€“ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๊ณผ ์‹ ์ฒด ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์ƒ๊ด€๊ด€๊ณ„๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ 
08:01
and physical heath, you think? โ€“ย  Well, I thinkโ€ฆ I think there is, yes,
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? โ€“ ์Œ, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”โ€ฆ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”, ์˜ˆ,
08:06
that theyโ€ฆ they do go along with each other
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€โ€ฆ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์„œ๋กœ ์ž˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
08:10
and maybe one causes a bit moreย  of the other and visa-verse. ย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜์™€ ๋น„์ž ๊ตฌ์ ˆ์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋” ์œ ๋ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:16
How important do you find yourย  mental health compared to say,
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08:18
something like your physical health? - I think.
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์‹ ์ฒด ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋น„ํ•ด ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”? - ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”.
08:20
Is it on a par or is it moreย  important? - I'd say more,
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๋™๋“ฑํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ, ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? - ๋” ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ
08:22
but I think โ€˜cosโ€ฆ because, youย  know, if you've got a broken leg,
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'์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด... ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด, ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ€๋Ÿฌ์กŒ์œผ๋ฉด
08:25
you can go to the doctor but it'sย  kind of more difficult to you know,
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์˜์‚ฌ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์•Œ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ๋” ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:31
kind of, tell someone how you'reย  feeling and make them understand
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๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด
08:34
that it's not just like, you know,ย ย 
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08:36
youโ€™re a bit sad. And interesting you mentionย  about erโ€ฆ the work to life kind of, divide.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์Šฌํ”ˆ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“œ์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ดโ€ฆ ์ผ์—์„œ ์‚ถ์œผ๋กœ์˜ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋ถ„ํ• ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ธ๊ธ‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:41
Yeah. โ€“ Ermโ€ฆ because I thinkย  this is actually quite a big one
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์‘. โ€“ ์Œโ€ฆ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฝค ํฐ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:44
for most people. Howโ€ฆ Howโ€™ve youย  managed to sort of, separate it?
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. ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒโ€ฆ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ถ„๋ฅ˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ถ„๋ฆฌํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
08:48
Yes so, it's been quite difficult,
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๋„ค, ๊ฝค ์–ด๋ ค์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:50
I think when I was going into theย  office itโ€ฆ you leave and ultimately,
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์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์— ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐˆ ๋•Œ ... ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋– ๋‚˜๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ
08:54
sometimeโ€ฆ occasionally, Iย  might log on later on but,
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์–ธ์  ๊ฐ€๋Š”... ๊ฐ€๋” ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋กœ๊ทธ์˜จํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฑฐ์˜ ์—†์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:57
it would be few and far between.ย  whereas now, it's so easy to just;
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. ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:01
I'm on my laptop I go and have dinner,ย  come back and still on my laptop.
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์ €๋Š” ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋…์„ ๋จน๊ณ  ๋Œ์•„์™€์„œ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:04
And that delineation betweenย  personal and your personal life
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ƒํ™œ
09:10
and professional isโ€ฆ is quite hard to maintain.
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๊ณผ ์ง์—… ๊ฐ„์˜ ๊ตฌ๋ถ„์€โ€ฆ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:14
But I think sinceโ€ฆ itโ€™s sort of,ย  setting your own boundaries I think.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š”โ€ฆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋‹น์‹  ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฒฝ๊ณ„๋ฅผ ์„ค์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:19
Itโ€™s like; I'm not going to do anymore tonight,
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๋งˆ์น˜; ์˜ค๋Š˜ ๋ฐค์€ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:21
my laptops going away andย  it'sโ€ฆ there is a distinction
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๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์ด ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฑดโ€ฆ
09:25
between I'm now not at work,ย  even though I'm most likely
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09:29
sat in the exact same seat that Iโ€™ve been sat in
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09:31
for the remainder of the day. โ€“ย  So, you physically put away things?
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๋‚จ์€ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ๋™์•ˆ. โ€“ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์„ ์น˜์šฐ์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
09:35
Yeah, I think yeah. โ€“ Deter yourself?ย  - Yes I do actually, donโ€™t I?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜. - ์ž์‹ ์„ ์–ต์ œ? - ๋„ค, ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
09:38
And we set times, donโ€™t we? -ย  Yeah. โ€“ We set times for like,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ •ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? - ์‘. โ€“ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
09:40
firstโ€ฆ first cocktail or whateverย  on a Friday night at this time.
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์ด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ๊ธˆ์š”์ผ ๋ฐค์— ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ •ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:45
Exactly yeah. โ€“ Like, justย  small, really small things?
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๋งž์•„์š”. โ€“ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์•„์ฃผ ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ, ์ •๋ง ์ž‘์€ ๊ฒƒ?
09:48
Yeah I do, I put my laptop'sย  like, on the desk, folded upโ€ฆ
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”. ๋…ธํŠธ๋ถ์„ ์ ‘์€ ์ฑ„๋กœ ์ฑ…์ƒ ์œ„์— ์˜ฌ๋ ค๋†“์•˜์–ด์š”โ€ฆ
09:51
you get so annoyed with me.ย  But like, fold up the charges,
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ˜์˜๋ฅผ ์ ‘๊ณ 
09:55
put them into a draw so theyย  are physically out of sight,
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๋ฌด์Šน๋ถ€๋กœ ๋„ฃ์–ด ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ,
09:58
out of mind. โ€“ Eat the key? - Yeah. ย ย 
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๋งˆ์Œ์—์„œ ๋ฉ€์–ด์ง€๋„๋ก ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. โ€“ ์—ด์‡ ๋ฅผ ๋จน์–ด? - ์‘.
10:05
Is talking about mental healthย  something that youโ€™veโ€ฆ you know,
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์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:07
itโ€™s kind of become a newย  thing in England, really.
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์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:10
Thereโ€™s been more light shed on it, right?
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋น›์ด ๋น„์ณ์กŒ์ฃ ?
10:11
But have you always felt that youโ€™reย  able to speak about it, openly?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋Š๋ผ์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
10:15
Yeah, yeah, I think because I'veย  always had quite open parents,
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์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ, ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ชจ๋‹˜์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ด์…จ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
10:18
we'veโ€ฆ we've been securely brought up.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”โ€ฆ ์•ˆ์ „ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ž๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:22
I've never had an issue with mental myself,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์šฐ์šธํ•จ์„ ์ œ์™ธํ•˜๊ณ ๋Š” ์ •์‹ ์ ์ธ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:24
apart from just being a littleย  bit down every now and then,
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10:27
more from tiredness I think. Butย  yeah, I can speak openly about it
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ํ”ผ๋กœ๊ฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ 
10:31
and umโ€ฆ I was teaching in Mexico andย  we did mindfulness with my children
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์Œโ€ฆ ์ €๋Š” ๋ฉ•์‹œ์ฝ”์—์„œ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” 5์„ธ์—์„œ 8์„ธ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๋งˆ์Œ์ฑ™๊น€์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:36
who wereโ€ฆ between the agesย  of five and eight and weโ€ฆ
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”โ€ฆ ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋„
10:40
we openly spoke about mentalย  health over there as well.
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์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
10:42
So I think it's something that you can speakโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹คโ€ฆ
10:45
if you speak openly about it with other people
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:47
then they'll be honest and open about it with you.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ •์งํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐœ๋ฐฉ์ ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:49
Oh right, and would that kind of,ย  be your advice to someone maybe,
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์•„ ๋งž๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
10:53
yeah, I know that in Englandย  thereโ€™s a big thing with like, men.
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์˜ˆ, ์˜๊ตญ์—๋Š” ๋‚จ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํฐ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:57
This is like, the big problem; that men canโ€™tโ€ฆ
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ผ...
10:58
itโ€™s hard for men to find an outletย  to deal with it right? โ€“ Yeah.
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๋‚จ์ž๊ฐ€ ๋Œ€์ฒ˜ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ถœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ต์ฃ  ? - ์‘. ์œก์ฒด์  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋ผ๋Š”
11:02
Is that kind of, advice youโ€™d give like,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด
11:04
to focus on the physical health,ย  is that a big part of it?
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ํฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
11:07
Well yeah, I think for me, if I'mย  looking after myโ€ฆ my physical health,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚ดโ€ฆ ๋‚ด ์‹ ์ฒด ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
11:13
then my mental health seems better.ย  I seem happier, more rested,
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๋‚ด ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ์ข‹์•„์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋” ํ–‰๋ณตํ•˜๊ณ , ๋” ์‰ฌ๊ณ ,
11:18
sleeps a massive part of it as well.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ž”๋‹ค.
11:20
So if you're rested and sleepingย  then, you're feeling better.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๊ณ  ์ž ์„ ์ž๋ฉด ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ๋” ์ข‹์•„์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:23
I'm just focusing on sleepย  โ€˜cos I've got a new baby so,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์ž ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ƒˆ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฒจ์„œ
11:27
that's the most important thing, I think.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
11:28
Get some sleep, exercise,ย  speak to people you love. ย ย 
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์ž ์„ ์ž๊ณ , ์šด๋™ํ•˜๊ณ , ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
11:32
What is it about men? Letโ€™sย  start with that. โ€“ Okay.
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๋‚จ์ž๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค๊ฐ€์š”? ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์ข‹์•„์š”.
11:33
That makes like, mental healthย  such a faux pas compared to women?
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์ด ์—ฌ์„ฑ์— ๋น„ํ•ด ๊ฐ€์งœ๋ผ๊ณ  ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
11:39
Yeah, nice easy question forย  me. โ€“ Well, in your opinion.
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์˜ˆ, ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ์‰ฌ์šด ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . - ๊ธ€์Ž„, ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ์œผ๋กœ๋Š”.
11:43
Yeah, I know. โ€“ Why is it suchย  a weirdโ€ฆ a struggle for men
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๋„ค, ์•Œ์•„์š”. โ€“ ๋‚จ์„ฑ์ด
11:45
to get involved in mental health?
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์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ๊ด€์—ฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์™œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ด์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒโ€ฆ
11:46
I think it's probably just ourย  culture and the way weโ€™re brought up.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ฌธํ™”์ด์ž ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ž๋ผ๋‚œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:49
And I have seen, in my lifetimeย  that changing, for the better,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ผ์ƒ ๋™์•ˆ
11:52
where men are encouraged to beย  more expressive or more vulnerable
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๋‚จ์„ฑ์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๊ฐ์ •์— ๋” ํ‘œํ˜„๋ ฅ์„ ๋ฐœํœ˜ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋” ์ทจ์•ฝํ•ด์ง€๋„๋ก ๊ถŒ์žฅ๋˜๋Š” ๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:56
with their feelings. But, youย  know, I was born in the sixties
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. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ , ์ €๋Š” 60๋…„๋Œ€์— ํƒœ์–ด๋‚˜
12:01
and growing up through the sortย  of, seventies, eighties era,
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์ผ์ข…์˜ 70, 80๋…„๋Œ€๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ์น˜๋ฉฐ ์ž๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:04
men were kind of, discouraged or boysย  were discouraged from crying even.
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.
12:09
Whereas, I think now, men are almostย  encouraged to do that by you know,
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๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋‚จ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด
12:15
iconic masculine men on podcastsย  and TV programmes and that.
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ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ ์™€ TV ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ ๋“ฑ์˜ ์ƒ์ง•์ ์ธ ๋‚จ์„ฑ์  ๋‚จ์„ฑ์— ์˜ํ•ด ๊ฑฐ์˜ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ๊ถŒ์žฅ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:19
And we're kind of seeing a more,ย  what I probably would have described
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€
12:25
in the past as a European approachย  to raising erโ€ฆ boys and men,
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์‹ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์„ค๋ช…ํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚จ์ž์™€ ๋‚จ์ž๋ฅผ
12:30
as opposed to a stiff upperย  lip British way of doing it,
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ํ‚ค์šฐ๋Š” ์œ ๋Ÿฝ์‹ ์ ‘๊ทผ ๋ฐฉ์‹์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:33
where it's all about stiflingย  your emotions and pretending
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๊ฐ์ •๊ณผ
12:36
they don't exist. Now we'reย  addressing them and we're free
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์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ์ฒ™. ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:40
to express them and I think that isย  a healthier way, for two reasons.
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๋‘ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ๊ฑด์ „ํ•œ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:45
One, people get a good positiveย  example of how to behave.
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์ฒซ์งธ, ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ–‰๋™ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ข‹์€ ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:48
And two, we can actually identifyย  in our loved ones and our friends
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๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋กœ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์นœ๊ตฌ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‹๋ณ„ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
12:52
if weโ€ฆ if something's not quite right. You know,
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. ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
12:55
whereas if they hide it and bury it, weโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๊ณ  ๋ฌป๋Š”๋‹ค๋ฉด, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”...
12:56
we don't get an opportunityย  to do that and you know,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•  ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:58
sadly it's too late for someย  people before we can identify it
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์Šฌํ”„๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‹๋ณ„ํ•˜๊ณ 
13:02
and step inโ€ฆ in and help. What adviceย  would you give to, more men, who maybe areโ€ฆ
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๊ฐœ์ž…ํ•˜์—ฌ ๋„์›€์„ ์ฃผ๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋Šฆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋‚จ์„ฑ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ํ•˜์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ์•„๋งˆ๋„โ€ฆ ์ผ์ข…์˜
13:10
thereโ€™s more of a tradition toย  sort of, swallow your feelings andโ€ฆ
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์ „ํ†ต์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  , ๊ฐ์ •์„ ์‚ผํ‚ค๊ณ โ€ฆ
13:13
Yeah. - It's aโ€ฆ it's a bitโ€ฆย  it seems thereโ€™s a change,
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์˜ˆ. - ๊ทธ๊ฑดโ€ฆ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„โ€ฆ ๋ณ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ
13:16
butโ€ฆ but it's, still there are menย  who are still not quite finding ways
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โ€ฆ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ
13:21
toโ€ฆ or finding outlets to deal with mental health.
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์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃฐ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„โ€ฆ ๋˜๋Š” ์ถœ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚จ์„ฑ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:24
Yeah Iโ€™dโ€ฆ I'd say that yeah, a lotย  of it's kind of your upbringing,
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๋„ค, ์ €๋Š”โ€ฆ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”, ๋งŽ์€ ์–‘์œก์ด
13:28
depending on what age you are, I'mย  hoping younger men are getting better
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋‚˜์ด์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด์ง€๋งŒ, ์ Š์€ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์ด ๋” ์ž˜ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž˜
13:34
at it, I don't know. I'm not a youngerย  man, but my generation and above,
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๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋” ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚ด ์„ธ๋Œ€ ์ด์ƒ์€
13:39
yes weโ€ฆ we doโ€ฆ we do struggle to talk about it.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”โ€ฆ
13:42
But I think, do not go outย  with the intention of saying;
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์˜๋„๋กœ ์™ธ์ถœํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
13:46
I'm going to talk about mentalย  health problems, just talk.
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์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ• ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฑด๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
13:50
And even if it's just aboutย  your watching something
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด
13:54
or you're just talking about nonsense,
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๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋ง๋„ ์•ˆ๋˜๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ์ง€๋ผ๋„
13:58
that is effectively helping yourย  mental health. So don't thinkโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ํšจ๊ณผ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”โ€ฆ ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”์—
14:02
don't try and put a specific boxย  around this conversation, just talk.
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ํŠน์ • ์ƒ์ž๋ฅผ ๋‘์ง€ ๋ง๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
14:08
Which is difficult in the last year or so,
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์ง€๋‚œ 1๋…„ ์ •๋„์—๋Š”
14:09
because we have been able to meet upย  and doing things on ''Zoom'' calls
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๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ''Zoom'' ํ†ตํ™”
14:13
or by phone is challenging, but where possible,
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๋‚˜ ์ „ํ™”๋กœ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋ฉด
14:16
just meet up with people and talk.ย  Don't put a label on it, I think.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋งŒ๋‚˜์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋ผ๋ฒจ์„ ๋ถ™์ด์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
14:21
That probably helped me. Yeah, Iย  really don't know Iโ€ฆ I have like,
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์•„๋งˆ ์ €์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ, ์ •๋ง ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ €๋Š”... ์ œ
14:26
gone out of my way in certain ways to say like;
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๋ฐฉ์‹๋Œ€๋กœ ์ œ ๋ฐฉ์‹๋Œ€๋กœ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:28
you can chat about that sortย  of stuff. But, I think it'sโ€ฆ
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€...
14:34
it's different to me providingย  aโ€ฆ an offer that probably,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๊ณตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ
14:39
will never be taken up, to them actually thinking
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์ ˆ๋Œ€ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์—ฌ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ œ์•ˆ์„, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
14:42
that's a genuine thing that they can.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ง„์งœ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ.
14:45
Is it about doing something like, you do your runโ€ฆ
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๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ...
14:47
like you run or whateโ€ฆ orย  play football. Is that likeโ€ฆ
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๋‹ฌ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ... ๋˜๋Š” ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๊ฐ€์š”...
14:50
Yeah, I suppose it doesn't necessarilyย  have to always be verbal does it,
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๋„ค, ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ํ•ญ์ƒ ์–ธ์–ด์ ์ผ ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
14:54
in terms ofโ€ฆ - But maybe, Iโ€™m saying like,
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- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„
14:55
is that a way to bring out theย  verbal side? By doing something,
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์–ธ์–ด์  ์ธก๋ฉด์„ ๋Œ์–ด๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ธ๊ฐ€์š” ? ๋ญ”๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ํ•จ์œผ๋กœ์จ,
14:58
you know what I mean? โ€“ Yeah.ย  โ€“ Men are such hobbyists,
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๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด? - ์‘. - ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์€ ์ทจ๋ฏธ์ƒํ™œ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
15:01
you know what I mean? โ€“ Yeah, itโ€™sย  so true. Like, my oldest friend,
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๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด? โ€“ ๋„ค, ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ๋‚ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š”
15:04
whenever we meet up, weโ€™ll like,ย  go for a jog together or whatever
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚  ๋•Œ๋งˆ๋‹ค ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์กฐ๊น…์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“ 
15:07
and that is where we'll have a chat.
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๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ˆ˜๋‹ค๋ฅผ ๋–จ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:10
Like, historically whenย  weโ€™re talking about, I dunno,
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด, ์—ญ์‚ฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ,
15:12
like girls or whatever when we were younger.
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์†Œ๋…€๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:16
Iโ€™m sure you still talk about girls.ย  โ€“ No but, you know what I mean?
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹์—ฌ์ž์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ™•์‹ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. โ€“ ์•„๋‹ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ธ์ง€ ์•Œ๊ฒ ์–ด?
15:19
When youโ€™re just like; Oh, do youย  like, fancy this girl or whatever.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ข‹์•„ํ•  ๋•Œ; ์˜ค, ์ด ์—ฌ์ž๋ฅผ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋“ ์ง€ ๋ญ๋“  ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
15:22
But then it opened up like,ย  a more of a deeper chat
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋” ๊นŠ์€ ๋Œ€ํ™”๊ฐ€ ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜์ด ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ถ•๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์กฐ๊น…์„ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ
15:25
and that would always be facilitated by us like,
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๊ฐ™์ด ํ•ญ์ƒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด‰์ง„ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:27
going playing football together, just like,
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15:29
the two of us or going for aย  jog or going for a walk even,
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15:33
it is just like, it's hard to say;ย  do you want to come for a chat,
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ๋งํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์žก๋‹ดํ•˜๋Ÿฌ ์˜ค์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ,
15:38
weirdly. Whereas; do you want toย  comeโ€ฆ - Even though it shouldnโ€™t be.
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์ด์ƒํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„. ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด; ์˜ค์‹œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ... - ์˜ค์‹œ๋ฉด ์•ˆ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ.
15:41
No, I know. But, do you wantย  to come and play football?
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์•„๋‹ˆ, ์•Œ์•„. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์™€์„œ ์ถ•๊ตฌํ• ๋ž˜?
15:45
Yes, and then we'll end upย  chatting and not reallyโ€ฆ
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์˜ˆ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ฑ„ํŒ…์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š”...
15:47
weโ€™ll just be kicking the ball andย  not really concentrating about that.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ณต์„ ์ฐจ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:50
And the the other thing I thinkย  is difficult with men as well,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋„ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
15:53
and I found this particularly, becauseย  I love going to the pub as well.
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ํŠนํžˆ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ˆ ์ง‘์— ๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:57
But all the kind of, socialย  occasions that we have,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์‚ฌ๊ต ํ–‰์‚ฌ๋Š”
16:02
revolve around alcohol, whichย  in itself is not a particularly
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์ˆ ์„ ์ค‘์‹ฌ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๋ฉฐ ์ˆ  ์ž์ฒด๋Š”
16:05
healthy environment for talkingย  about emotions or mental health
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๊ฐ์ •์ด๋‚˜ ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•
16:09
or anything like that.
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๋˜๋Š” ๊ทธ์™€ ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ๊ฑด์ „ํ•œ ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:11
And I think it's quiteย  difficult to move away from that
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:13
because that's what we've alwaysย  done, is weโ€™ll go to the pub.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ•ญ์ƒ ํ•ด์™”๋˜ ์ผ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ˆ ์ง‘์— ๊ฐˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:18
And then you start talking about football,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์ถ•๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋ฉด
16:20
itโ€™ll be on the screen or whateverย  and you don't actually end up talking
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ํ™”๋ฉด์— ๋‚˜์˜ค๋“  ๋ญ๋“  ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ
16:22
about things that areโ€ฆ yeah, onย  the front of people's minds. ย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:26
We're all individuals and weโ€™reโ€ฆย  we all tick differently, I think.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋‘ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ด๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”โ€ฆ ๋ฌด์—‡
16:30
I think first and foremost, Iย  would just encourage everybody
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๋ณด๋‹ค๋„ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ฐ์ •์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๊ณ 
16:33
to trust and believe thatย  it's okay to have emotions,
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๊ฐ์ •์€
16:37
they are completely natural andย  normal and to show them is okay,
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์™„์ „ํžˆ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ณ  ์ •์ƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ฐ์ •์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์—ฌ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๊ณ  ๋ฏฟ๋„๋ก ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:41
you know? Nowadays, societyย  doesn't look negatively at a man
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์š”์ฆ˜ ์‚ฌํšŒ๋Š” ์†์ƒํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์šฐ์šธํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์šธ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋„์›€์„ ์š”์ฒญํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚จ์„ฑ์„ ๋ถ€์ •์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•ด๋„
16:48
feeling upset or depressedย  or crying or asking for help,
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16:53
so it's totally fine to doย  that, it is okay to do that.
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๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ด๋„ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:57
And I encourage everybody to do that, In terms of,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋„๋ก ๊ถŒ์žฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:01
what would be the best outlet forโ€ฆ for people,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ๋ฐฐ์ถœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜์ž๋ฉด, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์ด ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”
17:03
I think that's an individualย  thing you know, like I say,
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๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:05
I thrive on physical activityย  and that really helps me ermโ€ฆ
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17:09
to keep a balance. But for others,ย  you know, could be anything right?
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๊ท ํ˜•. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ด๋“  ์˜ณ์€ ์ผ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:12
Could be creativity or itย  could be talking to somebody
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์ฐฝ์˜์„ฑ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์ž ์ด ๋”
17:15
or it could be just gettingย  better and more sleep, who knows.
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์ž˜ ์ž๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ž ์„ ๋” ๋งŽ์ด ์ž๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:18
But I would encourageย  everybody to feel comfortable
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ GP์™€ ๊ฐ™๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ
17:23
with expressing yourself erโ€ฆ toย  somebody, even if it's like a GP.
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์ž์‹ ์„ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ํŽธ์•ˆํ•จ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๋„๋ก ๊ถŒ์žฅํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€
17:27
If you've got no family orย  friends you want to speak to,
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๊ฐ€์กฑ์ด๋‚˜ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์—†๋‹ค๋ฉด
17:30
talk to a GP or you know, talk to a counsellor
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GP์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์นด์šด์…€๋Ÿฌ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
17:33
or talk to the Samaritans. Thereโ€™s aโ€ฆ there's aโ€ฆ
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์‚ฌ๋งˆ๋ฆฌ์•„์ธ๋“ค๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค. ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š”โ€ฆ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—โ€ฆ
17:35
a wide range of avenues to go down, definitely.
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๋‚ด๋ ค๊ฐˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ธธ์ด ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:39
Itโ€™s okay to talk, that's my main message. ย  Thanks for watching this week's episode,
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์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด๋„ ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ œ ์ฃผ์š” ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:43
let me know in the comments belowย  how you maintain your mental health
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์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•
17:46
and what advice youโ€™d give someoneย  and weโ€™ll see you next week, bye.
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๊ณผ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ์•„๋ž˜ ๋Œ“๊ธ€๋กœ ์•Œ๋ ค์ฃผ์„ธ์š”. ๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ๋ต™๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•ˆ๋…•ํžˆ ๊ณ„์„ธ์š”.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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