Bad news: Office English episode 7

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

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Sometimes we have to give or receive badย news at work.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ ๋ฐ›์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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Even if you're really kind of grown up about it, it's still a difficultย thing to hear, so to give that informationย ย 
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์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ฅธ์ด ๋๋‹ค๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ํž˜๋“  ์–˜๊ธฐ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ •๋ณด๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„
00:11
is equally difficult, I'd say.
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๋˜‘๊ฐ™์ด ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
00:14
It's important toย remember that you're talking to a real person, and this bad news is going to affect
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์‹ค์ œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ๊ณผ ์ด ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:21
them in a personal way, and you have to take that into account rather than justย following um business kind of speak.
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๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค์ ์ธ ๋ง์„ ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:33
In this episode of Office English, we'reย talking about the language of bad news.ย ย 
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์ด๋ฒˆ Office English ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์˜ ์–ธ์–ด์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:41
Welcome to Office English, the podcast where weย  discuss business language to help you succeedย at work.
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์ง์žฅ์—์„œ์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณต์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ์–ธ์–ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ํ† ๋ก ํ•˜๋Š” ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ์ธ Office English์— ์˜ค์‹  ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:47
Today, we're talking about badย news. Nobody likes talking about bad news,ย ย 
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์—†๊ฒ ์ฃ ,
00:52
right Phil? But sometimes at work, we haveย to.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ  Phil? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ž˜์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:56
Okay, you're talking about bad news. What do we mean by bad news at work?ย What things can be bad news at work?
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?ย  ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
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So, it's things that might affect your job inย  a bad way - so, it might be a company-wide problem,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์—…๋ฌด์— ๋‚˜์œ ๋ฐฉํ–ฅ์œผ๋กœ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ „์ฒด์˜ ๋ฌธ์ œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
01:10
maybe financial difficulties - decisions haveย  to be made about what people can afford,ย ย 
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์žฌ์ •์  ์–ด๋ ค์›€์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ๋‹นํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ธˆ์•ก,
01:16
what jobs are going to remain, and who might beย  losing their job. Or, it might be something moreย ย 
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์–ด๋–ค ์ง์—…์ด ๋‚จ์„์ง€, ๋ˆ„๊ฐ€ ๋‚จ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง์žฅ์„ ์žƒ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋˜๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ข€ ๋” ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์ธ ๋‚ด์šฉ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ
01:22
specific to you, so your manager might need toย  give you bad news about a report you've written,ย ย 
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๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์„ฑํ•œ ๋ณด๊ณ ์„œ,
01:27
or some work you've done, or something that'sย  happened in your department that affects you.
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๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์ž‘์—… ๋˜๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๋Š” ๋ถ€์„œ์—์„œ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•œ ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์•Œ๋ ค์•ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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And when people give bad news, they often don'tย  like doing it and so they'll often use somethingย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•  ๋•Œ, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ข…์ข… ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
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which we call a business euphemism, and that meansย sort of a word or a phrase which sounds innocent,ย ย 
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๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ์™„๊ณก์–ด๋ฒ•์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์ˆœ์ง„ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌดํ•ดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€๋งŒ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๋‹จ์–ด๋‚˜ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
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sounds harmless, but actually couldย mean something quite bad or serious. So,ย ย 
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์•„์ฃผ ๋‚˜์˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์‹ฌ๊ฐํ•œ ์ผ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
01:49
they're trying to hide the bad newsย from you or make it sound like aย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ˆจ๊ธฐ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
01:53
positive thing when it might actuallyย be bad for your future at the company.
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ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ์˜ ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์— ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‚˜์  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Œ์—๋„ ๋ถˆ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:58
So, in this episode of Office English, we're goingย  to look at some of these business euphemismsย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋ฒˆ Office English ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์•Œ์•„๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค ์™„๊ณก์–ด๋ฒ• ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์‚ดํŽด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:03
so that you can recognise bad news. And we'llย  also talk about some phrases you can use ifย ย 
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. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋„ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:08
you need to deliver bad news to somebody else.
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02:15
Right, let's start with recognising bad news.
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๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:19
How do managers talk about problems at work,ย Phil? What phrases should we look out for?
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Phil, ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž๋“ค์€ ์ง์žฅ ๋ฌธ์ œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋‚˜์š”? ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์ฃผ๋ชฉํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ๊นŒ์š”?
02:25
Yes, keep your ears open for some of theseย phrases like if you hear about budget cuts,
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๋„ค, ์˜ˆ์‚ฐ ์‚ญ๊ฐ ์†Œ์‹์„ ๋“ค์œผ๋ฉด
02:31
there's often consequences to that, aren'tย there?
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์ข…์ข… ๊ทธ์— ๋”ฐ๋ฅธ ๊ฒฐ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์— ๊ท€๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์šธ์ด์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š๋‚˜์š”?
02:34
Yeah, budget cuts mean less money, which means probably fewer things that can haveย money spent on them.
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์˜ˆ, ์˜ˆ์‚ฐ ์‚ญ๊ฐ์€ ๋ˆ์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ๋ˆ์„ ์“ธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด ์ ์–ด์ง„๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:42
You mean fewer things, like fewer people sometimes?
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๋” ์ ์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
02:45
Sometimes, yes. Fewerย projects, fewer people.
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์–ด์ฉ” ๋• ๊ทธ๋ž˜. ํ”„๋กœ์ ํŠธ ์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์ ๊ณ  ์ธ๋ ฅ๋„ ์ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:48
Another one is something called 'headwinds'. So, if people talk aboutย financial headwinds, that means basically 'forces that are
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๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” '์—ญํ’'์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žฌ์ •์  ์—ญํ’์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ '
02:56
stopping the company from making as muchย  money as they might like to make'.
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ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฒŒ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋งŒํผ์˜ ๋ˆ์„ ๋ฒŒ์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ง‰๋Š” ํž˜'์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:00
Sounds like something from sailing that one, 'headwinds'.
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'์—ญํ’'์ด๋ผ๋Š” ํ•ญํ•ด์—์„œ ๋‚˜์˜จ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:03
Yeah. I think it probably is a metaphor.
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์‘. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋น„์œ ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
03:05
Also, you'll often hear of companies talk aboutย  needing to make efficiencies. What do they mean by that?
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๋˜ํ•œ ๊ธฐ์—…์—์„œ ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ์ด ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์ž์ฃผ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
03:12
Well, it's similar to budget cuts. 'Makingย  efficiencies' means 'spending less money to get the same amount
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๋ญ, ์˜ˆ์‚ฐ ์‚ญ๊ฐ๊ณผ ๋น„์Šทํ•ด์š”. ' ํšจ์œจ์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์ธ๋‹ค'๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ '๋™์ผํ•œ ์ž‘์—…๋Ÿ‰์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋” ์ ์€ ๋ˆ์„ ์ง€์ถœํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ'์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:20
of work done', which sometimes meansย  fewer people to get the same amount of work done,
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์ด๋Š” ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋™์ผํ•œ ์ž‘์—…๋Ÿ‰์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋” ์ ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด
03:25
Yeah, so, a lot of these, I mean, they don't haveย to be, but they often do mean that there's going to be fewer people working at
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ํ•„์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Š” ์ข…์ข… ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ด๋ฉฐ
03:32
the placeย that you work, which could be bad news.
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์ด๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:35
And these euphemisms carry on because weย actually have euphemisms that specifically mean people losing their jobs,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์™„๊ณกํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žƒ๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋Š” ์™„๊ณกํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ณ„์† ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ
03:43
but weย perhaps don't want to say that. So, we can talk about downsizing. How isย downsizing made? Where is that coming from?
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ถ•์†Œ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ถ•์†Œ๋Š” ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ฃจ์–ด์ง€๋‚˜์š”? ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ ์–ด๋””์„œ ๋‚˜์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ?
03:51
So, if we downsize something, we makeย  it smaller. This is quite an American term, I think -
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ถ•์†Œํ•˜๋ฉด ๋” ์ž‘๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ ์ธ ์šฉ์–ด์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:57
an American way to say that the companyย  is going to change, and there will be fewer jobs at the end of the process.
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ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ •์ด ๋๋‚˜๋ฉด ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ค„์–ด๋“ค ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ํ‘œํ˜„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:05
- So, downsizingย means the whole workforce gets smaller. - Yep.
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- ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ถ•์†Œ๋Š” ์ „์ฒด ์ธ๋ ฅ์ด ์ž‘์•„์ง€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์‘.
04:10
Another one we use is 'restructuring'.ย So, the word 'restructuring', changing theย ย 
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ '๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ •'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.ย  ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ '๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ •'์ด๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š”
04:15
structure of something. We might notย think that would necessarily mean thatย ย 
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์˜ ๊ตฌ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ
04:20
there would be people losing their jobs, butย it usually does. 'Restructuring' is a euphemismย ย 
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์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žƒ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š” ์•„๋‹ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. '๊ตฌ์กฐ์กฐ์ •'์€
04:26
for 'we are going through a process whereย  there will be fewer people working here'.
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' ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ค„์–ด๋“œ๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๊ฒช๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ฅผ ์™„๊ณกํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:32
And another one we've got here is 'streamlining'.ย  I think in engineering or design, 'streamlining'ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š” 'ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌํ™”'์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—”์ง€๋‹ˆ์–ด๋ง์ด๋‚˜ ๋””์ž์ธ์—์„œ 'ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌํ™”'๋Š” '
04:38
is you 'make something aerodynamic so that it canย go faster'. So, you take bits off it so it canย ย 
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๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์›€์ง์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ๊ณต๊ธฐ์—ญํ•™์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ'์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋” ๋น ๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ง„ํ–‰๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์กฐ๊ธˆ์”ฉ ๋–ผ์–ด๋‚ด์„ธ์š”
04:43
go faster. Well, for business, sometimesย that means taking people out so that itย ย 
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. ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์‚ฌ์—…์ƒ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š”
04:48
can work better or cheaper.
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๋” ๋‚˜์€ ๋˜๋Š” ๋” ์ €๋ ดํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:51
All of these threeย words: downsizing, restructuring, streamlining,
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๊ทœ๋ชจ ์ถ•์†Œ, ๊ตฌ์กฐ ์กฐ์ •, ํ•ฉ๋ฆฌํ™”๋ผ๋Š” ์„ธ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋ชจ๋‘
04:55
they don't always mean that people will lose theirย  jobs. Sometimes they just mean reorganisation,ย ย 
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žƒ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ๋Š” ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ๋‹จ์ง€ ์žฌ์กฐ์ง์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๊ธฐ๋„
05:01
but that means change and upheaval. So,ย that might be bad news for you at work.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Š” ๋ณ€ํ™”์™€ ๊ฒฉ๋ณ€์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:07
And then we have some words that areย  specifically about people losingย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žƒ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:11
their jobs. We've got redundanciesย and layoffs. What's a redundancy?ย ย 
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. ์ •๋ฆฌํ•ด๊ณ ์™€ ํ•ด๊ณ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ค‘๋ณต์ด๋ž€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
05:19
What's the difference between being madeย  redundant and getting sacked, for example?
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ํ•ด๊ณ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ํ•ด๊ณ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์˜ ์ฐจ์ด์ ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
05:23
So, 'being sacked' is when you lose your jobย  because of something that you've done orย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 'ํ•ด๊ณ ๋จ'์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž์‹ ์ด ํ•œ ์ผ์ด๋‚˜
05:28
because of your performance at work, usually.ย  Whereas, 'being made redundant', in the UK,ย ย 
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์ง์žฅ์—์„œ์˜ ์„ฑ๊ณผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ง์žฅ์„ ์žƒ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.ย  ๋ฐ˜๋ฉด ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” '์ค‘๋ณตํ™”'๋˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ
05:34
we have a very formal process for redundancies.ย  It's basically where a company has to decide thatย ย 
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์ •๋ฆฌํ•ด๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณต์‹์ ์ธ ํ”„๋กœ์„ธ์Šค๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–์ถ”๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๋Š”
05:41
they need to make their workforce smaller. So,ย  some people need to lose their jobs, but it'sย ย 
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์ธ๋ ฅ ๊ทœ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ค„์—ฌ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ผ๋ถ€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ง์žฅ์„ ์žƒ์–ด์•ผ ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Š”
05:47
not their fault. So, being made redundant justย means that your role won't exist anymore,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์ž˜๋ชป์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ•ด๊ณ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์—ญํ• ์ด ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
05:53
your job won't exist any more, and the companyย  makes that decision. But it's not somethingย ย 
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์ง๋ฌด๊ฐ€ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์กด์žฌํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉฐ ํšŒ์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:59
that you've done. It's just something that'sย kind of outside of your control, really.
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. ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ํ†ต์ œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:03
Yeah. And when we talk about
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์‘. ์ •๋ฆฌํ•ด๊ณ ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๋•Œ
06:04
layoffs, I mean, that's usually theย same thing. It's companies reducingย ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ™์€ ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:07
the number of people working forย them to save money. What aboutย ย 
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๋น„์šฉ์„ ์ ˆ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ค„์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:11
this expression 'to let someone go'?ย What do you think of that expression?
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'๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋‹ค'๋ผ๋Š” ํ‘œํ˜„์€ ์–ด๋–ค๊ฐ€์š”?ย  ๊ทธ ํ‘œํ˜„์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
06:14
This is sort of a phrase that we use toย say that somebody has to lose their job.ย ย 
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์ด๋Š” ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์ง์—…์„ ์žƒ์–ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ข…์˜ ํ‘œํ˜„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:18
It's another one of these euphemisms. 'Toย let someone go' is almost - it sounds like you'reย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์™„๊ณกํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„ ์ค‘ ๋˜ ํ•˜๋‚˜์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. '๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋‹ค'๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์˜ -
06:24
doing them a favour when actually you're sayingย  that they can't work here anymore for variousย ย 
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ๋Š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์œ ๋กœ ๋” ์ด์ƒ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ํ˜ธ์˜๋ฅผ ๋ฒ ํ’€๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:29
reasons. So, 'to let someone go' means 'to makeย  them redundant so that they lose their job'.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ 'to let someone go'๋Š” '๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ํ•ด๊ณ ์‹œ์ผœ ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์žƒ๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋‹ค'๋ผ๋Š” ๋œป์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:39
Right, so we now know some words toย talk about bad news at work,ย ย 
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๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด์ œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์•Œ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:43
but imagine we're the ones giving theย bad news. What else do we need to say?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•˜๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์ด ๋” ํ•„์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
06:51
Well, this is difficult. So, this will beย different depending on the country that youย ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„, ์ด๊ฑด ์–ด๋ ต๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ด๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ๊ทผ๋ฌดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ตญ๊ฐ€
06:56
work in, the context that you work in. Someย  cultures are more upfront about things. So,ย ย 
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, ๊ทผ๋ฌด ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ฌ๋ผ์งˆ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€ ๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ฌผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋” ์†”์งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
07:03
they're more likely to just say what theย problem is and give you the bad news. Someย ย 
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๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋” ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ผ๋ถ€
07:09
cultures are more likely to use a lot ofย these euphemisms that we've talked about.
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๋ฌธํ™”์—์„œ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•œ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์™„๊ณกํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋” ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:14
If you have to do it yourself, it's not a niceย thing to do. Probably the best way is to startย ย 
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์ง์ ‘ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€
07:21
by being honest. So, say something like, 'We'veย  had to make some tough decisions, and after aย ย 
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์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ '์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ค์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ 
07:28
long and careful review, we have decided thatโ€ฆ'ย  So, that's showing that you've taken a decision thatย ย 
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๊ธธ๊ณ  ์‹ ์ค‘ํ•œ ๊ฒ€ํ†  ๋์— ๋‹ค์Œ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์ด ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค...'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ์ด๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€
07:34
you're about to communicate very seriously, um you're taking this whole conversation seriously.
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๊ณง ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฒฐ์ •์„ ๋‚ด๋ ธ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง„์ง€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ, ์Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์ง„์ง€ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
07:40
There's an emphasis there. It's aย tough decision. 'It's been...' It's saying it's been difficult,ย ย 
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ•์กฐ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ด๋ ค์šด ๊ฒฐ์ •์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. '๊ทธ๊ฑด..' ํž˜๋“ค๊ณ ,
07:45
long, and careful there, it's this ideaย that a lot of effort has gone into thisย ย 
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๊ธธ๊ณ , ์กฐ์‹ฌ์Šค๋Ÿฝ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์ธ๋ฐ, ์ด๋ฒˆ ๊ฒฐ์ •์—๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅ์ด ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ”๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
07:49
decision. It wasn't just made quickly.ย It's been thought about for a long time.
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. ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋งŒ๋“ค์–ด์ง„ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.ย  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์˜ค๋žซ๋™์•ˆ ์ƒ๊ฐ๋˜์–ด ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:56
Another thing that might be helpful is toย try and be quite clear and concise. So,ย ย 
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๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ„๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ์ž‘์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿผ,
08:02
a short piece of news. So, youย could say, 'Unfortunately,ย ย 
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์งง์€ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•ด๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ '์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„
08:05
your role is being made redundant.' So, it'sย  really clear what is happening in your bad news.
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๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ์—ญํ• ์ด ์ค‘๋ณต๋˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์—์„œ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:11
There's something else that's interestingย here as well. If you say to someone,ย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋„ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ ์ด ํ•˜๋‚˜ ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ
08:15
'Your role is being made redundant',ย you're making it about the positionย ย 
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'๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์—ญํ• ์ด ํ•ด๊ณ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉดย ํšŒ์‚ฌ ๋‚ด ์ง์ฑ…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
08:21
in the company. You're not making it aboutย that individual. There are reasons why thatย ย 
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. ๊ทธ ๊ฐœ์ธ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:26
happens in the UK, but in general,ย it's kind of depersonalising it. So,ย ย 
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์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ฐ์—๋Š” ์ด์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์ด์ธํ™”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
08:30
it's probably easier to talk aboutย someone's role than the person themselves.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ ์ž์‹ ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ์—ญํ• ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋” ์‰ฌ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:35
Yes, and if you're having to give someone bad news,ย  it's likely that they might be upset. So,ย ย 
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ผ ๊ฐ€๋Šฅ์„ฑ์ด ๋†’์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
08:42
you need to think about how you're going toย  show them that you care, and also kind of make sure thatย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ด€์‹ฌ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ณด์—ฌ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ 
08:47
they're okay. So, you could say, 'Is there somebodyย  that I can call for you? Would you like to takeย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด '๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ „ํ™”ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:53
a moment?' If someone's upset, you could ask,ย  'Would you like to take a moment?' so they'veย justย 
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์ž ์‹œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋‚ด์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?' ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ๋‹ค๋ฉด '์ž ์‹œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ์ข€ ๋‚ด์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€
08:57
got time to kind of react to what you're tellingย  them, which is probably quite a big shock.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„ ๋ฐ˜์‘ํ•  ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๊ฐ–๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฝค ํฐ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:02
And it's often good at this moment toย um - yeah avoid clichรฉs. So, things like, 'Oh,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์—๋Š” ์Œ - ์˜ˆ, ์ง„๋ถ€ํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์€ ํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ '์•„,
09:07
look on the bright side.' I mean, thereย could be a nice sentiment behind it,ย ย 
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๊ธ์ •์ ์ธ ๋ฉด์„ ์ข€ ๋ด' ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ ๋’ค์—๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๊ฐ์ •์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
09:12
but if it's a clichรฉ, it sort of suggestsย you haven't really been thinking about it,ย ย 
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์ง„๋ถ€ํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์ด๋ผ๋ฉด, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†๊ณ ,
09:15
and you haven't - you don't really mean it. So, do try toย  make sure when you're talking to someone,ย ย 
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์‹ฌ์ง€์–ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋ณธ ์ ๋„ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•”์‹œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ง„์‹ฌ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์™€ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ง„์‹ฌ์„
09:20
sound like you mean what you say. Don'tย just use the same old tired clichรฉs.
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๋‹ด์€ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋„๋ก ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜์„ธ์š”. ๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ๋‚ก๊ณ  ์ง„๋ถ€ํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
09:25
Yeah, and you probably don't want to just tryย and cheer them up. Your natural instinct whenย ย 
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๋„ค, ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹จ์ง€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:29
speaking to someone and they're upset is toย try and cheer them up. But they probably don'tย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ํ™”๊ฐ€ ๋‚ฌ์„ ๋•Œ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋ณธ๋Šฅ์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ฒฉ๋ คํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ž์‹ 
09:33
want to hear that from the person that hasย given them the bad news or that they mightย ย 
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์—๊ฒŒ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด๋‚˜
09:37
see as responsible for their misfortune. So,ย yeah, it's a really difficult thing to do basically.
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์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ถˆํ–‰์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ฑ…์ž„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์œผ๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ , ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ค์šด ์ผ์ด๊ตฐ์š”.
09:47
Unfortunately, even if you're calmย and sympathetic with bad news,ย ย 
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๋ถˆํ–‰ํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์นจ์ฐฉํ•˜๊ณ  ๋™์ •์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•ด๋„
09:52
people can still be upset. Let's hear againย from our BBC Learning English colleagues.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ โ€‹โ€‹ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. BBC Learning English ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค์˜ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋“ค์–ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:57
It's important to remember thatย you're talking to a real person,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์‹ค์ œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋ฉฐ,
10:01
and this bad news is going to affectย them in a personal way, and you have toย ย 
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์ด ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์ธ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ฉฐ,
10:05
take that into account rather than justย following, um, business kind of speak.
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๋‹จ์ง€ ์Œ, ๋น„์ฆˆ๋‹ˆ์Šค์ ์ธ ๋ง์„ ๋”ฐ๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๊ทธ ์ ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:12
I think there's a temptation to say to someoneย  that something isn't maybe as bad as it is,ย ย 
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ํ˜„์žฌ๋งŒํผ ๋‚˜์˜์ง€๋Š” ์•Š๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์œ ํ˜น์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
10:19
and that makes the whole situation evenย  more difficult. I think you need to beย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์ „์ฒด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋”์šฑ ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:24
upfront with someone, even if it's difficult,ย  because otherwise you're just kicking that canย ย 
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์–ด๋ ต๋”๋ผ๋„ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์†”์งํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด
10:30
down the road and they'll have to deal withย  a possibly even bigger problem later on.
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๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋†”๋‘๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ผ ๋ฟ์ด๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋” ํฐ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:38
Okay, so Neil used a phrase there, 'kicking theย  can down the road'. What does that mean, Phil?
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ Neil์€ 'kicking the can can down the road'๋ผ๋Š” ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ด์•ผ, ํ•„?
10:44
It's a metaphor, and it means that insteadย  of dealing with something that you need toย ย 
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์ด๋Š” ๋น„์œ ์ด๋ฉฐ, ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์„ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ๋ฏธ๋ž˜์˜
10:48
deal with now, you put it off until sometime inย  the future. But if we go back to the metaphor,ย ย 
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์–ด๋Š ์‹œ์ ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฏธ๋ฃจ๋ผ๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋น„์œ ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€๋ฉด
10:54
instead of picking the can upย and throwing it in the bin,ย ย 
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์บ”์„ ์ง‘์–ด ์“ฐ๋ ˆ๊ธฐํ†ต์— ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹ 
10:57
you're kicking it further down theย road. You'll just have to deal with it
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๊ธธ ์•„๋ž˜๋กœ ๋” ๋ฉ€๋ฆฌ ๊ฑท์–ด์ฐจ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:00
later when you get to it. Yeah,ย the problem doesn't go away,ย ย 
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๋‚˜์ค‘์— ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋„ค, ๋ฌธ์ œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ผ์ง€์ง€ ์•Š์•„์„œ
11:04
so you're sort of delayingย it rather than solving it.
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๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋Š”์ปค๋…• ๋ฏธ๋ฃจ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
11:08
And I think this is where, as we said earlier,ย  it's important to be clear when you're givingย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ž์„œ ๋งํ–ˆ๋“ฏ์ด ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ด๋ฅผ ๋ช…ํ™•ํžˆ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
11:12
bad news. So, you don't want to leave theย  conversation, either if you're giving badย ย 
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. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ์ „ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
11:17
news or you're receiving it, and what needs toย  be communicated hasn't been communicated. So,ย ย 
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๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์ „๋‹ฌ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋„ ๋Œ€ํ™”์—์„œ ๋‚˜๊ฐ€๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
11:22
it's important to be clear and notย kind of hide too much behind euphemismsย ย 
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๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์™„๊ณกํ•œ ํ‘œํ˜„ ๋’ค์— ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋งŽ์ด ์ˆจ๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.ย ย  ์Œ,
11:29
um and phrases that aren't clear aboutย what actually needs to happen.
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์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ผ์ด ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:33
Um, so if you're trying to be too kind, you'reย  actually creating a problem further downย ย 
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์Œ, ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์นœ์ ˆํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋Œ€ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ๋” ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:38
the line - you're kicking the can downย the road.
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์ฆ‰, ๊นกํ†ต์„ ๊ฑท์–ด์ฐจ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:39
Now, if you're stuck for how to
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์ด์ œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ ๋ง‰๋ง‰ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
11:41
start the conversation, you could just say,ย  'Unfortunately, I've got some bad news.'
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'์•ˆํƒ€๊น๊ฒŒ๋„ ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
11:48
Yeah, I think that's a good idea. So, start theย  conversation and warn someone that they'reย ย 
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์‘, ์ข‹์€ ์ƒ๊ฐ์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„. ๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ๊ณง
11:53
about to hear something bad is probablyย a good way to start off. Don't start theย ย 
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๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์„ ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ฒฝ๊ณ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:57
conversation with a nice chit-chat and a reallyย  friendly conversation because they'll just thinkย ย 
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์ข‹์€ ์žก๋‹ด๊ณผ ์ •๋ง ์นœ๊ทผํ•œ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋กœ ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ
12:03
it's a normal meeting, and then the badย news comes and shocks them even more.
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ํ‰๋ฒ”ํ•œ ๋งŒ๋‚จ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ณ  ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ด ๋“ค๋ ค์˜ค๋ฉด ๋”์šฑ ์ถฉ๊ฒฉ์„ ์ค„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:09
That's it for this episode of Office English.ย  Hopefully, you won't have any bad news at workย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด Office English์˜ ์ด๋ฒˆ ์—ํ”ผ์†Œ๋“œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.ย  ๊ณง ์ง์žฅ์— ๋‚˜์œ ์†Œ์‹์ด ์—†๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๋ผ์ง€๋งŒ
12:14
soon, but if you do, these phrases can help youย  communicate.
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, ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ด ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:18
If you like this podcast, you can
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์ด ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“œ์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด bbclearningenglish.com์—์„œ ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์—
12:20
find more programmes and activities to help youย  with your English at bbclearningenglish.com. Nextย ย 
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๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ๊ณผ ํ™œ๋™์„ ์ฐพ์•„๋ณด์„ธ์š” . ๋‹ค์Œ
12:26
time, we'll be talking about how to deal withย  disagreements at work.
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์‹œ๊ฐ„์—๋Š” ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ์˜ ์˜๊ฒฌ ๋ถˆ์ผ์น˜๋ฅผ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:30
- See you then. Bye - Bye.
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- ๊ทธ๋•Œ ๋งŒ๋‚˜. ์•ˆ๋…•.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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