Office English episode 2: Meetings

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BBC Learning English


ไธ‹ใฎ่‹ฑ่ชžๅญ—ๅน•ใ‚’ใƒ€ใƒ–ใƒซใ‚ฏใƒชใƒƒใ‚ฏใ™ใ‚‹ใจๅ‹•็”ปใ‚’ๅ†็”Ÿใงใใพใ™ใ€‚ ็ฟป่จณใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅญ—ๅน•ใฏๆฉŸๆขฐ็ฟป่จณใงใ™ใ€‚

00:00
Meetings. They're a big part of our time at work.
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ไผš่ญฐใ€‚ ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏ็งใŸใกใฎไป•ไบ‹ๆ™‚้–“ใฎๅคง้ƒจๅˆ†ใ‚’ๅ ใ‚ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:03
Some people love them and some people hate them.
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ใใ‚Œใ‚‰ใ‚’ๆ„›ใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ๅซŒใ„ใชไบบใ‚‚ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:07
Sometimes meetings can feel a bit pointless
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ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ€ไผš่ญฐใฏ ๅฐ‘ใ—็„กๆ„ๅ‘ณใซๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‰ใ‚Œ
00:09
and you're just trying to fill the time.
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ใ€ใŸใ ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚’ๅŸ‹ใ‚ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
00:13
So, ideally, there's an agenda,
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€็†ๆƒณ็š„ใซใฏใ€่ญฐ้กŒใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
00:15
so you know what's going to be talked about and discussed.
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ไฝ•ใŒ ่ฉฑใ•ใ‚Œ่ญฐ่ซ–ใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‹ใŒใ‚ใ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
00:19
I do sometimes get nervous speaking up in meetings,
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00:23
because I have a bit of a fear of speaking in front of people.
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็งใฏ ไบบๅ‰ใง่ฉฑใ™ใฎใŒๅฐ‘ใ—ๆ€–ใ„ใฎใงใ€ไผš่ญฐใง่ฉฑใ™ใฎใฏๆ™‚ใ€…็ทŠๅผตใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ BBC Learning English ใฎ
00:28
In this episode of Office English from BBC Learning English,
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Office English ใฎใ“ใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใงใฏ ใ€
00:32
we're looking at how to speak up in meetings and get your ideas heard.
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ไผš่ญฐใง็™บ่จ€ใ—ใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ๆ–นๆณ•ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:39
Welcome to Office English,
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00:41
our guide to the language of the world of work.
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ไป•ไบ‹ใฎไธ–็•Œใฎ่จ€่ชžใซใคใ„ใฆใฎใ‚ฌใ‚คใƒ‰ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ Office English ใธใ‚ˆใ†ใ“ใใ€‚
00:45
In this podcast, we discuss words and phrases you can use
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ใ“ใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใงใฏใ€
00:49
to help improve your business English in the office.
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ใ‚ชใƒ•ใ‚ฃใ‚นใงใฎใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚น่‹ฑ่ชžใฎๅ‘ไธŠใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใคๅ˜่ชžใ‚„ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใซใคใ„ใฆ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
00:52
I'm Phil.
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็งใฏใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซใงใ™ใ€‚
00:53
And I'm Pippa.
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ใใ—ใฆ็งใฏใƒ”ใƒƒใƒ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚
00:54
Today we're talking about meetings.
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ไปŠๆ—ฅใฏไผš่ญฐใซใคใ„ใฆใฎ่ฉฑใงใ™ใ€‚ ่‹ฑ่ชžใ‚’ๆฏๅ›ฝ่ชžใจใ™ใ‚‹ไบบใงใ‚ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ€
00:57
We've already heard that meetings can be very stressful,
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ไผš่ญฐใฏ ้žๅธธใซใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใซใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใฏใ™ใงใซ่žใ„ใฆใ„ใพใ™
01:00
even for native English speakers.
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ใ€‚
01:03
But what do you think, Phil? Do you speak up a lot in meetings?
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ใงใ‚‚ใฉใ†ๆ€ใ†ใ€ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซ๏ผŸ ไผš่ญฐใงใฏใ‚ˆใ็™บ่จ€ใ—ใพใ™ใ‹๏ผŸ
01:07
It depends on the meeting.
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ใใ‚Œใฏไผš่ญฐๆฌก็ฌฌใงใ™ใ€‚ ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Š
01:09
OK!
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ใพใ—ใŸ๏ผ
01:10
Sometimes you have a meeting with people you work closely with, a small meeting,
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ๆ™‚ใ€…ใ€ ็ทŠๅฏ†ใซไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบบใ€…ใจใฎใƒŸใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใ‚„ๅฐใ•ใชใƒŸใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒณใ‚ฐใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใ€
01:16
and I find it quite easy to try and contribute and ask people
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็งใฏใ€่ฒข็Œฎใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€ ไบบใ€…ใซ่ณชๅ•ใ—ใŸใ‚Šใ€
01:20
and, and, and things like that.
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ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’่ฉฆใฟใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใŒ้žๅธธใซ็ฐกๅ˜ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:22
Sometimes you're in a bigger meeting with people you don't know so well,
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ใ‚ใพใ‚Šใ‚ˆใ ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ไบบใŸใกใจๅคง่ฆๆจกใชไผš่ญฐใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ—ใ€ใ‚ฏใƒฉใ‚คใ‚ขใƒณใƒˆใ‚„ๅˆฅใฎ้ƒจ้–€ใชใฉใ€ไธ€็ท’ใซไป•ไบ‹ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„
01:26
or maybe you're meeting people you don't work with,
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ไบบใŸใกใจไผšใ†ใ“ใจใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
01:30
a client or a different department.
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ใ€‚
01:32
โ€” That's a lot harder, I think. โ€” Mm, yeah. I agree.
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โ€•โ€•ใใ‚Œใฏใ‹ใชใ‚Š้›ฃใ—ใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ โ€” ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€‚ ๅŒๆ„ใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:35
And then, when you get stressed like that, you maybe don't want to speak,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใ‚’ๆ„Ÿใ˜ใ‚‹ใจใ€ ใŠใใ‚‰ใ่ฉฑใ—ใŸใใชใ„ใ€
01:39
or you're nervous to contribute, or you feel that you're tripping over your words,
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่ฒข็Œฎใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใซ็ทŠๅผตใ™ใ‚‹ใ€ใพใŸใฏ ่จ€่‘‰ใซใคใพใšใ„ใฆใ€่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒ
01:44
you're getting what you're about to say wrong and so that can be really stressful.
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่จ€ใŠใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒไผใ‚ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจๆ„Ÿใ˜ใพใ™ใ€‚ ้–“้•ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใงใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซใ‚นใƒˆใƒฌใ‚นใซใชใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
01:48
It's something that I think most people are nervous about.
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ใปใจใ‚“ใฉใฎไบบ ใŒ็ทŠๅผตใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
01:52
And so today, we're going to talk you through the basics of meetings
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ใใ“ใงไปŠๆ—ฅใฏใ€ ไผš่ญฐใฎๅŸบๆœฌ
01:56
and phrases you can use to get your voice heard.
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ใจใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๆ„่ฆ‹ใ‚’่žใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ใŸใ‚ใซไฝฟ็”จใงใใ‚‹ใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใซใคใ„ใฆ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
02:03
So, we've been invited to a meeting.
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02:06
There's lots of people in the meeting who we don't know
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ไผš่ญฐใซใฏ็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ไบบใ‚‚ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ใ„ใฆ
02:10
and, at the start of the meeting, everyone is asked to introduce themselves.
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ใ€ไผš่ญฐใฎๅˆใ‚ใซ ๅ…จๅ“กใซ่‡ชๅทฑ็ดนไป‹ใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚
02:14
How can we do this professionally, Phil?
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ใฉใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใƒ—ใƒญใจใ—ใฆใ“ใ‚Œใ‚’ๅฎŸ็พใงใใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ใ€ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซ๏ผŸ
02:17
OK, how about saying 'For those who don't know me,
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OKใ€ ใ€Œ็งใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ไบบใฎใŸใ‚ใซใ€
02:21
I'm Phil and I do podcasts about business English'?
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็งใฏใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซใงใ€ใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚น่‹ฑ่ชžใซใคใ„ใฆใฎใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ ๏ผŸ
02:24
Yeah, that's nice,
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ใใ‚Œใฏใ„ใ„ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
02:25
because it's sort of an expectation that people might not know you.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ไบบใ€…ใŒใ‚ใชใŸใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใจใ„ใ†ๆœŸๅพ…ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
02:29
Another one you could maybe try is 'I'm responsible for...'
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ใ‚‚ใ†ไธ€ใค่ฉฆใ—ใฆใฟใ‚‹ใฎใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ ใ€Œ็งใซใฏโ€ฆใฎ่ฒฌไปปใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€ใจใ„ใ†
02:33
So instead of saying what your role is,
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ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎๅฝนๅ‰ฒใ‚„ๅฝน่ทใ‚’่จ€ใ†ไปฃใ‚ใ‚Šใซ
02:36
what your job title is, just explain what you do.
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ใ€ ่‡ชๅˆ†ใŒไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
02:40
So, for those who don't know me, I'm Pippa,
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็งใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ไบบใฎใŸใ‚ใซ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ ็งใฏใƒ”ใƒƒใƒ‘ใงใ™ใ€‚BBC Learning English ใง
02:43
and I'm responsible for the podcasts at BBC Learning English.
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ใƒใƒƒใƒ‰ใ‚ญใƒฃใ‚นใƒˆใ‚’ๆ‹…ๅฝ“ใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
02:48
And I think that's really good because, I don't know how it is in other languages,
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ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‰ฏใ„ใ“ใจใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ ไป–ใฎ่จ€่ชžใงใฏใฉใ†ใชใฎใ‹ใฏๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“
02:52
but in English your job title often doesn't really say what you actually do.
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ใŒใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใงใฏๅฝน่ทๅใŒ ๅฎŸ้š›ใซไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใ‚’ใ‚ใพใ‚Š่กจใ—ใฆใ„ใชใ„ใ“ใจใŒๅคšใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
02:59
Mm, yeah, so it's not very useful to tell people that.
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ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ใใ‚Œใ‚’ไบบใซไผใˆใ‚‹ใฎใฏใ‚ใพใ‚Šๆ„ๅ‘ณใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
03:02
Anything else we can say here, Phil?
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ไป–ใซใ“ใ“ใง่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ“ใจใฏใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ‹ใ€ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซ๏ผŸ
03:04
Perhaps, if you've got a particular expertise in something,
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ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ ไฝ•ใ‹็‰นๅฎšใฎๅฐ‚้–€็Ÿฅ่ญ˜ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใ€
03:09
you could say 'I have a background in...'
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03:11
and then you're talking about an area that you know a lot of
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ใ‚ˆใ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅˆ†้‡Žใ€
03:15
or that you've worked in before, that you've studied a lot.
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ใพใŸใฏไปฅๅ‰ใซๅƒใ„ใŸใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ๅˆ†้‡Žใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใŸใใ•ใ‚“ๅ‹‰ๅผทใ—ใŸใจใ„ใ†ใ“ใจใ€‚
03:17
And that can be useful, perhaps saying,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใคใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€
03:19
'Look, this is how I can be useful in this meeting. Ask me about these things'.
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ใ€Œใปใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚ŒใŒ็งใŒใ“ใฎไผš่ญฐใงๅฝน็ซ‹ใคๆ–นๆณ•ใ ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่žใ„ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚ใ€
03:24
Mm, yeah.
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ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใใ†ใ ใญใ€‚
03:25
Because, if you don't know people, they might be questioning why you're there
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€็Ÿฅใ‚Šๅˆใ„ใŒใ„ใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆใ€ ใชใœใ‚ใชใŸใŒใใ“ใซใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹ใจ็–‘ๅ•ใซๆ€ใ†ใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใฎใงใ€่‡ชๅˆ†
03:29
and so it's good to kind of say early
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03:31
what your expertise is and what you have to bring to the meeting.
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ใฎๅฐ‚้–€็Ÿฅ่ญ˜ ใจไผš่ญฐใซไฝ•ใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆ่กŒใ‹ใชใ‘ใ‚Œใฐใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‹ใ‚’ๆ—ฉใ‚ใซ่จ€ใ†ใฎใŒ่‰ฏใ„ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:35
What about if you don't get a chance to introduce yourself
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03:37
at the start of the meeting, Phil?
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ไผš่ญฐใฎๅˆใ‚ใซ่‡ชๅทฑ็ดนไป‹ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใŒใชใ‹ใฃใŸใ‚‰ใฉใ†ใ—ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซ๏ผŸ
03:39
Well, yeah. It can be useful sometimes if you can just bring one of those phrases in
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ†ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ€‚ ่ชฐใ‹ใซ่ฉฑใ™ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ้ ผใพใ‚ŒใŸใจใใซใ€ๆœ€ๅˆใซ ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใฎ 1 ใคใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚Œใฐใ€ๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใคใ“ใจใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
03:44
the first time when someone asks you to speak.
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03:46
Oh, 'For those don't know me, I'm...'
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ใ‚ใ‚ใ€ใ€Œ็งใฎใ“ใจใ‚’็Ÿฅใ‚‰ใชใ„ไบบใฎใŸใ‚ใซ่จ€ใฃใฆใŠใใพใ™ใŒใ€็งใฏ...ใ€
03:48
and then you talk about your background and what you're responsible for,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใฏ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ็ตŒๆญดใจ่‡ชๅˆ†ใฎ่ฒฌไปปใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่ชฐใชใฎใ‹ใ€
03:52
just so people know who you are and how you can help the meeting.
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ใใ—ใฆไผš่ญฐใซใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฒข็Œฎใงใใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚’ไบบใ€…ใซ็Ÿฅใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ‚‰ใ†ใŸใ‚ใงใ™ใ€‚
03:56
Mm, yeah, and if you've kind of got that rehearsed,
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ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใใ†ใ ใญใ€ใใ‚Œใง ใ‚ใ‚‹็จ‹ๅบฆใƒชใƒใƒผใ‚ตใƒซใŒใงใใŸใ‚‰ใ€
03:59
it's a good way to kind of start talking.
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่ฉฑใ‚’ๅง‹ใ‚ใ‚‹ใฎใซ่‰ฏใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใ ใ‚ˆใ€‚
04:01
You've got over the initial nervousness
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ๆœ€ๅˆใฎ็ทŠๅผตใ‚’ไน—ใ‚Š่ถŠใˆใ‚‹
04:03
and then you can actually say what you want to say.
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ใจใ€่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใ“ใจใŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใชใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
04:09
Right, so we've introduced ourselves and the meeting has started.
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ใฏใ„ใ€่‡ชๅทฑ็ดนไป‹ใ‚‚็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใ€ ไผš่ญฐใŒๅง‹ใพใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸใ€‚
04:15
What about if somebody else makes an interesting point
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ไป–ใฎ่ชฐใ‹ใŒ ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„ๆŒ‡ๆ‘˜ใ‚’ใ—ใŸใฎใง
04:19
and we want to respond confidently in the meeting?
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ใ€ไผš่ญฐใง่‡ชไฟกใ‚’ๆŒใฃใฆๅฟœ็ญ”ใ—ใŸใ„ๅ ดๅˆใฏใฉใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ‚ˆใ„ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹ ?
04:23
Yeah, so we've got a few phrases here.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใ“ใ“ใซใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ€Œใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้‡่ฆใช็‚นใงใ™ใ€ใฎ
04:26
We could say something like
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ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™
04:28
'That's a really important point. It makes me think about...' and then say our point.
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ใ€‚ ใใ‚Œใฏ ็งใซ่€ƒใˆใ•ใ›ใพใ™...ใ€ใใ—ใฆ็งใŸใกใฎไธปๅผตใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
04:34
What do we think about that, Phil?
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ใใ‚Œใซใคใ„ใฆใฉใ†ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซ๏ผŸ
04:37
Well, it helps you engage with what someone's saying.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ ่ชฐใ‹ใฎ่จ€ใฃใŸใ“ใจใ‚’็†่งฃใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ใ€‚ ๅฝน็ซ‹ใค
04:39
You might be linking things that are useful.
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ใ‚‚ใฎใ‚’ใƒชใƒณใ‚ฏใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใŒใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ ใ€‚
04:42
Yeah, I think it can be useful,
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04:43
particularly if what they've said is really relevant
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็‰นใซๅฝผใ‚‰ใฎ็™บ่จ€ใŒไผš่ญฐใง
04:45
to what you're trying to sort out in the meeting.
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ๆ•ด็†ใ—ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ†…ๅฎนใซๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้–ข้€ฃใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใซใฏๅฝน็ซ‹ใคใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ ใ€‚
04:47
Yeah, and it's conversational.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ไผš่ฉฑๅฝขๅผใงใ™ใ€‚ ่ชฐใ‹ใซๅๅฏพใ—ใŸใ„
04:49
Another option we can have, if we want to kind of disagree with somebody,
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ๅ ดๅˆใ€็งใŸใกใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฎ้ธๆŠž่‚ขใฏใ€
04:53
is to say 'I like that idea, but my thinking is a bit different'.
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ใ€Œใใฎ่€ƒใˆใฏๅฅฝใใ  ใ‘ใฉใ€็งใฎ่€ƒใˆใฏๅฐ‘ใ—้•ใ†ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
04:58
I guess, as you said, it's a polite way of disagreeing.
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ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ่จ€ใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ€ ใใ‚Œใฏๅๅฏพใ™ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใฎ็คผๅ„€ๆญฃใ—ใ„ๆ–นๆณ•ใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:02
Do you think they really like that idea when they say it?
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05:05
Mm, I don't know.
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ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ›ใ‚“ใ€‚
05:06
It depends, I think, on what we're talking about!
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ใใ‚Œใฏใ€ ็งใŸใกใŒ่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ†…ๅฎนๆฌก็ฌฌใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
05:09
But it's just a politer way to say it.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๅ˜ใซไธๅฏงใช่จ€ใ„ๆ–นใงใ™ใ€‚
05:12
It's not really very helpful in a meeting, especially if you don't know people,
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ไผš่ญฐไธญใ€ ็‰นใซ็Ÿฅใ‚Šๅˆใ„ใŒใ„ใชใ„ๅ ดๅˆใซใ€
05:16
to say "I think that idea is rubbish and I prefer my idea",
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ใ€Œใใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฏใใ ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‚‚ใฎใ ใจๆ€ใ†ใฎใง ใ€็งใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใฎๆ–นใŒๅฅฝใใงใ™ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ใฎใฏ
05:21
so it's all about kind of being friendly and polite with people in meetings.
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ใ‚ใพใ‚Šๅฝนใซ็ซ‹ใกใพใ›ใ‚“ ใ€‚ใคใพใ‚Šใ€ไผš่ญฐใงใฏๅ‹ๅฅฝ็š„ใ‹ใค็คผๅ„€ๆญฃใ—ใๆŽฅใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ้‡่ฆใงใ™ใ€‚ ไผš่ฉฑใซ
05:27
Another way you could try and enter the conversation is to just ask a question.
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ๅ‚ๅŠ ใ—ใฆใฟใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใฏใ€ ใŸใ ่ณชๅ•ใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
05:31
So you could say 'What about...' or 'How about...' we try this?
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใ€Œใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹...ใ€ ใพใŸใฏใ€Œใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹...ใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใฟใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
05:35
That's a good way to kind of enter into a discussion and a conversation.
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05:40
Yeah. It's like you're putting something on the table for everyone to talk about.
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05:43
Mm, but sort of saying 'What about...' or 'How about...'
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ใ†ใƒผใ‚“ใ€ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€้žๅธธใซ็›ดๆŽฅ็š„ใช่ณชๅ•ใ‚ˆใ‚Šใ‚‚ใ€ใ€Œใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹...ใ€ ใพใŸใฏใ€Œใฉใ†ใงใ™ใ‹...ใ€ใจ่จ€ใ†ๆ–นใŒใ€
05:46
rather than a very direct question is just a bit more polite.
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ใ‚‚ใ†ๅฐ‘ใ—ไธๅฏงใงใ™ใ€‚
05:50
Mm.
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05:55
And now a really difficult scenario.
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ใใ—ใฆไปŠๅบฆใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ้›ฃใ—ใ„ใ‚ทใƒŠใƒชใ‚ชใงใ™ใ€‚ ไผš่ญฐใซ
05:58
What if there are lots of important people in the meeting
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ๅคšใใฎ้‡่ฆไบบ็‰ฉใŒใ„ใฆใ€
06:02
who are all dominating the conversation?
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ๅ…จๅ“กใŒไผš่ฉฑใ‚’ๆ”ฏ้…ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใฏใฉใ†ใชใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ‹?
06:05
The meeting is moving really quickly and you're nervous about speaking,
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ไผš่ญฐใฏ้žๅธธใซๆ—ฉใ้€ฒใ‚“ใงใŠใ‚Š ใ€่ฉฑใ™ใ“ใจใซ็ทŠๅผตใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™
06:09
but you have some ideas too.
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ใŒใ€ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
06:11
What do you do, Phil?
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ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซใ€ไฝ•ใ‚’ใ—ใฆใ‚‹ใฎ๏ผŸ
06:12
Well, I think I maybe do this too much.
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใฏใ‚„ใ‚Šใ™ใŽใ‹ใ‚‚ใ—ใ‚Œใชใ„ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:15
But it's... You kind of sit and wait for the right moment.
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ใ—ใ‹ใ—ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏ...ๅบงใฃใฆ ้ฉๅˆ‡ใช็žฌ้–“ใ‚’ๅพ…ใคใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ใ€‚
06:19
So you wait for it to be, there to be a little bit of a pause
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ใใ‚Œใงใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒ่ตทใ“ใ‚‹ใฎใ‚’ๅพ…ใฃใฆใ€ ๅฐ‘ใ—ใฎ้–“ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
06:22
and then you can say something.
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ใ€ใใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ใ€‚
06:24
Mm, yeah, but what about if you don't get the pause and you need to interrupt?
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06:29
What would you say then, Phil?
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ใ ใฃใŸใ‚‰ไฝ•ใจ่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ‹ใ€ใƒ•ใ‚ฃใƒซ๏ผŸ
06:31
We usually start by apologising.
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็งใŸใกใฏ้€šๅธธใ€่ฌ็ฝชใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‹ใ‚‰ๅง‹ใ‚ใพใ™ใ€‚
06:32
So you could say something like 'I'm sorry. Can I just ask...'
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ใ—ใŸใŒใฃใฆใ€ใ€Œใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ†ใ“ใจใŒใงใใพใ™ ใ€‚ ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ่žใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹...ใ€
06:36
And that 'just' is an interesting word there,
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ใใ—ใฆใ€ใ“ใฎใ€ŒใŸใ ใ€ใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใฏ ่ˆˆๅ‘ณๆทฑใ„่จ€่‘‰ใงใ™ใ€‚
06:38
cos you're kind of saying "I'm not sure about doing it".
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ€Œใ‚„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใฉใ†ใ‹ใ‚ใ‹ใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ€ใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ ใ€‚
06:41
You're almost apologising for asking there, 'I'm sorry. Could I just ask...',
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ใ‚ใชใŸใฏใใ“ใงใ€Œใ”ใ‚ใ‚“ใชใ•ใ„ใ€ใจๅฐ‹ใญใŸใ“ใจใ‚’ใปใจใ‚“ใฉ่ฌใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™ ใ€‚ ใกใ‚‡ใฃใจ่žใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹...ใ€ใ€
06:45
'I'm sorry, but I think we need to talk about...' this topic.
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06:50
And again the 'I think', it's a bit hesitant,
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ใใ—ใฆใพใŸใ€Œ็งใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€ใจใ„ใ†่จ€่‘‰ใฏ ๅฐ‘ใ—ใŸใ‚ใ‚‰ใ„ใพใ™
06:53
but sometimes that can be useful cos you're showing,
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ใŒใ€ๆ•ฌๆ„ใจ็คผๅ„€ใ‚’็คบใ™ๆ–นๆณ•ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒๅฝน็ซ‹ใคๅ ดๅˆใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใพใ™
06:56
it's a way of showing respect and being polite.
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06:58
Mm, yeah, so apologising and then kind of saying
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07:01
'I'm sorry, but I think we should talk about this' is a really useful way in.
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07:07
Another thing we can do is sort of ask permission to enter the discussion.
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็งใŸใกใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใ† 1 ใคใฎๆ–นๆณ•ใฏใ€ ่ญฐ่ซ–ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹่จฑๅฏใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใงใ™ใ€‚
07:11
So say something like 'Could I add a thought?' or 'Could I say something?'
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ใใ“ใงใ€ใ€Œ่€ƒใˆใ‚’่ฟฝๅŠ ใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹?ใ€ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชใ“ใจใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚ ใพใŸใฏใ€Œไฝ•ใ‹่จ€ใฃใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹๏ผŸใ€
07:15
You're kind of showing that you realise
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07:18
that other people in the room are important
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ใใฎ้ƒจๅฑ‹ใซใ„ใ‚‹ไป–ใฎไบบใ€…ใŒ ้‡่ฆใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’่ช่ญ˜ใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’็คบใ—ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใฎใง
07:20
and so sort of asking permission to join in as well.
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ใ€ๅŒๆง˜ใซๅ‚ๅŠ ใ™ใ‚‹่จฑๅฏใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ ใ€‚
07:25
Yes, I think that's a really good idea.
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ใฏใ„ใ€ใใ‚Œใฏๆœฌๅฝ“ใซ่‰ฏใ„ใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใ ใจๆ€ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:28
Of course, we're talking here from a context, we're here in the UK,
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ใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ“ใ“ใงใฏ ๆ–‡่„ˆใ‹ใ‚‰่ฉฑใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚็งใŸใกใฏใ“ใ“่‹ฑๅ›ฝใซใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
07:32
and, in Britain, we tend to have politeness as a really important thing,
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่‹ฑๅ›ฝใงใฏ ็คผๅ„€ๆญฃใ—ใ•ใ‚’้žๅธธใซ้‡่ฆ่ฆ–ใ™ใ‚‹ๅ‚พๅ‘ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹
07:37
so we say 'I'm sorry' a lot or 'Can I just do this?',
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07:41
but this does differ in different places.
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07:43
Some other cultures are a lot more direct
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ไป–ใฎๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใฎไธญใซใฏใ‚‚ใฃใจ็›ดๆŽฅ็š„ใชใ‚‚ใฎใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚Š
07:45
and maybe you don't need to apologise quite so much for saying things.
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07:49
So it's... Perhaps listen to how people speak in the place where you're working,
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ใใ‚Œใฏ...ใŠใใ‚‰ใใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒๅƒใ„ใฆใ„ใ‚‹ๅ ดๆ‰€ใงไบบใ€…ใŒใฉใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ่ฉฑใ™ใ‹ใซ่€ณใ‚’ๅ‚พใ‘ใฆใใ ใ•ใ„ใ€‚
07:54
cos these cultures change, aren't they? They're different in different places.
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ใชใœใชใ‚‰ใ€ใ“ใ‚Œใ‚‰ใฎๆ–‡ๅŒ–ใฏๅค‰ๅŒ–ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใงใ™ใ€‚ ๅ ดๆ‰€ใซใ‚ˆใฃใฆ้•ใ„ใพใ™ใ€‚
08:01
So we've learned some useful phrases to help us speak up in meetings,
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08:05
but let's hear again from our BBC colleagues,
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08:09
because there's one thing we haven't talked about
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08:12
and that's how to make sure our meetings are useful.
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08:17
Sometimes meetings can feel a bit pointless
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08:20
and you're just trying to fill the time.
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08:22
So, ideally, there's an agenda,
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08:24
so you know what's going to be talked about and discussed.
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08:28
Beth talked about having an agenda.
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08:31
So what do we mean by an 'agenda', Phil?
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08:34
An 'agenda' is a...
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08:36
It's a list of things that you're going to talk about in the meeting.
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08:40
And it's very common, definitely in Britain, it's very common
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08:45
that you might have a slot at the end that might say 'AOB', any other business.
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ๆœ€ๅพŒใซ ใ€ŒAOBใ€ใ‚„ใใฎไป–ใฎใƒ“ใ‚ธใƒใ‚นใจ่กจ็คบใ•ใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚นใƒญใƒƒใƒˆใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒ้žๅธธใซไธ€่ˆฌ็š„ใงใ™ใ€‚
08:50
But the idea is that during the, the other slots,
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ใŸใ ใ—ใ€ ไป–ใฎใ‚นใƒญใƒƒใƒˆใงใฏใ€่ญฐ้กŒใซใ‚ใ‚‹
08:54
you only talk about the things that are on the agenda.
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08:58
And it's... Ideally you share it before the meeting,
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ใใ‚Œใฏ... ็†ๆƒณ็š„ใซใฏใ€ไผš่ญฐใฎๅ‰ใซใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅ…ฑๆœ‰ใ™ใ‚‹ใจใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒ
09:02
so everyone knows what you're going to be talking about,
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09:05
why you're talking about those things,
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ใชใœใใฎใ“ใจใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ™ใฎใ‹ใŒๅ…จๅ“กใซใ‚ใ‹ใ‚Šใ€ไฝ•ใ‚’่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎใ‹
09:07
and it gives you a chance to think about what you might want to say.
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ใ‚’่€ƒใˆใ‚‹ๆฉŸไผšใŒๅพ—ใ‚‰ใ‚Œใพใ™ใ€‚ ใ€‚
09:11
Mm, yes, it's really helpful, because then you can prepare in advance.
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ใใ†ใงใ™ใญใ€ ไบ‹ๅ‰ใซๆบ–ๅ‚™ใŒใงใใ‚‹ใฎใงๆœฌๅฝ“ใซๅŠฉใ‹ใ‚Šใพใ™ใ€‚
09:15
And if you're in charge of the meeting,
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ใพใŸใ€ใ‚ใชใŸใŒไผš่ญฐใฎ่ฒฌไปป่€…ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ๅ ดๅˆใ€
09:17
making sure you have an agenda is really helpful,
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่ญฐ้กŒใ‚’ๅฟ…ใšๆฑบใ‚ใฆใŠใใจใ€ไผš่ฉฑใ‚’
09:20
because it helps you stay in control of the conversation
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ใ‚ณใƒณใƒˆใƒญใƒผใƒซใ—ใ‚„ใ™ใใชใ‚Š
09:23
and you make sure that the meeting isn't a waste of time.
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ใ€ไผš่ญฐใŒ ๆ™‚้–“ใฎ็„ก้ง„ใซใชใ‚‰ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ™ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใŸใ‚ใ€้žๅธธใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใกใพใ™ใ€‚
09:26
So you can say things like 'Ooh, I think we're getting a bit off topic'
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ใใฎใŸใ‚ใ€ใ€ŒใŠใฃใจใ€ ๅฐ‘ใ—่ฉฑใŒใใ‚Œใฆใ—ใพใฃใŸใ‚ˆใ†ใงใ™ใ€
09:30
or 'Please can we stick to the agenda'
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ใ‚„ใ€Œ่ญฐ้กŒใฏใใฎใพใพใซใ—ใฆใŠใ„ใฆใ‚‚ใ„ใ„ใงใ™ใ‹ใ€ใชใฉใจ่จ€ใฃใฆใ€้‡่ฆใชใ“ใจ
09:33
and make sure we talk about the important things.
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ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ฉฑใ—ๅˆใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใซใ—ใพใ—ใ‚‡ใ† ใ€‚
09:36
Yeah, that gives you nice, efficient meetings that finish on time, hopefully!
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ใใ†ใ™ใ‚Œใฐใ€ ใ†ใพใใ„ใ‘ใฐๆ™‚้–“้€šใ‚Šใซ็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€ๅŠน็Ž‡็š„ใชไผš่ญฐใŒๅฎŸ็พใงใใ‚‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€‚
09:40
Well, that's the idea, anyway!
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ใพใ‚ใ€ใจใซใ‹ใใ€ใใ‚ŒใŒใ‚ขใ‚คใƒ‡ใ‚ขใงใ™๏ผ
09:43
And that's it for this episode of Office English.
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Office English ใฎไปŠๅ›žใฎใ‚จใƒ”ใ‚ฝใƒผใƒ‰ใฏใ“ใ‚Œใง็ต‚ใ‚ใ‚Šใงใ™ใ€‚ BBC Learning English dot com ใงใฏใ€่‹ฑ่ชžใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใค
09:50
Remember you can find courses and activities to help you with your English
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ใ‚ณใƒผใ‚นใ‚„ใ‚ขใ‚ฏใƒ†ใ‚ฃใƒ“ใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚’่ฆ‹ใคใ‘ใ‚‹ใ“ใจใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ“ใจใ‚’ๅฟ˜ใ‚Œใชใ„ใงใใ ใ•ใ„
09:54
at BBC Learning English dot com.
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09:57
Next time, we'll be talking about how to remind people to do something
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ๆฌกๅ›žใฏใ€ ไบบใ€…ใซไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’ใ™ใ‚‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใƒชใƒžใ‚คใƒณใƒ‰ใ—ใŸใ‚Š
10:00
or chase them up for a response.
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ใ€ๅฟœ็ญ”ใ‚’ๆฑ‚ใ‚ใŸใ‚Šใ™ใ‚‹ๆ–นๆณ•ใซใคใ„ใฆ่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™ใ€‚
10:03
And of course, we'll discuss some essential phrases
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ใใ—ใฆใ‚‚ใกใ‚ใ‚“ใ€ใ‚ญใƒฃใƒชใ‚ขใฎๅฏ่ƒฝๆ€งใ‚’ๅผ•ใๅ‡บใ™ใฎใซๅฝน็ซ‹ใค ใ„ใใคใ‹ใฎ้‡่ฆใชใƒ•ใƒฌใƒผใ‚บใซใคใ„ใฆใ‚‚่ชฌๆ˜Žใ—ใพใ™
10:06
to help you unlock your career potential.
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10:09
See you then. Bye.
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ใใ‚ŒใงใฏใพใŸใ€‚ ใ•ใ‚ˆใชใ‚‰ใ€‚
10:11
Bye.
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