Advanced English Conversation: Talking Jobs and Time Off (British & American English with subtitles)

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2019-07-22 ใƒป To Fluency


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Advanced English Conversation: Talking Jobs and Time Off (British & American English with subtitles)

2,177,489 views ใƒป 2019-07-22

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
- Hi, welcome back.
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- ์•ˆ๋…•, ๋Œ์•„์˜จ ๊ฑธ ํ™˜์˜ํ•ด.
00:01
This is Jack from tofluency.com, along with me, Kate.
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์ €๋Š” tofluency.com์˜ Jack์ด๊ณ  ์ €์™€ Kate์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:05
- Yeah, and today,
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- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜์€
00:06
we are going to give you listening practice,
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and we do this by just having
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a natural conversation, in English.
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๋“ฃ๊ธฐ ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
00:15
And today our topic is going to be jobs.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ค๋Š˜ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ฃผ์ œ๋Š” ์ง์—…์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:19
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
00:20
- Jobs.
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- ์ง์—….
00:21
So be sure to check out the description
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ
00:23
for the words and phrases that we use in this lesson.
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์ด ์ˆ˜์—…์—์„œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์™€ ๊ตฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์„ค๋ช…์„ ๊ผญ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
00:27
And also check out tofluency.com,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  tofluency.com๋„ ํ™•์ธํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
00:29
because I have some great stuff there for you, too.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ž๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:32
Okay, so today we're gonna talk about jobs.
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์ž, ์˜ค๋Š˜์€ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:36
We're gonna talk about the first jobs that we've had.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:40
- Okay.
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00:40
- Different types of jobs we've had.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”.
- ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ง์—…๋“ค.
00:42
And also, we're going to talk about our dream job.
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๋˜ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:45
So we can start thinking about that now.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€๊ธˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:47
But what was your first-ever job?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ฒซ ์ง์—…์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
00:51
- So my first-ever job
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- ์ œ ์ฒซ ์ง์—…์€
00:56
was actually working at a sailing school.
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์‚ฌ์‹ค ํ•ญํ•ด ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:02
So, eventually I became a sailing instructor
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ฒฐ๊ตญ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญํ•ด ๊ฐ•์‚ฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
01:06
but in the beginning, I was just a helper,
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์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ์ € ์กฐ๋ ฅ์ž์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ–ˆ๊ธฐ
01:09
so I would help move boats
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ์˜ฎ๊ธฐ๋Š” ์ผ์„ ๋•๊ณ 
01:12
and help people who wanted to rent the boats,
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๋ฐฐ๋ฅผ ๋นŒ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ
01:15
what to do and where to go.
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๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ด๋””๋กœ ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€๋ฅผ ๋•๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:17
So we rented kayaks and small sailboats
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์นด์•ฝ๊ณผ ์ž‘์€ ๋ฒ”์„ 
01:21
and small catamarans,
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๊ณผ ์ž‘์€ ์Œ๋™์„ ์„ ๋นŒ๋ ธ๊ณ 
01:25
and that was the beginning of my working career.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ๊ฒฝ๋ ฅ์˜ ์‹œ์ž‘์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:28
- Very cool. - Yeah.
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- ์•„์ฃผ ๋ฉ‹์ ธ์š”. - ์‘.
01:29
- How old were you?
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- ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
01:31
- I was 15.
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- 15์‚ด์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:33
- Right.
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- ๋งž์•„์š”.
01:34
Was that like a summer job?
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์—ฌ๋ฆ„๋ฐฉํ•™ ๊ฐ™์€๊ฑฐ์˜€์–ด?
01:36
- It was a summer job.
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- ์—ฌ๋ฆ„๋ฐฉํ•™์ด์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
01:38
- And is that common around that age in America?
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- ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๊ทธ ๋‚˜์ด๋Œ€์— ํ”ํ•œ ์ผ์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
01:40
- I think that most, because we have a longer summer break
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- ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋งŽ์€ ๋‚˜๋ผ๋ณด๋‹ค ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ๋ฐฉํ•™์ด ๋” ๊ธธ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
01:45
than a lot of other countries, I think it's pretty common
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01:48
for American teenagers to have some kind of a summer job.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‹ญ๋Œ€๋“ค์ด ์ผ์ข…์˜ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ–๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ฝค ํ”ํ•œ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:54
- Right.
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- ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
01:55
So yours was working at a sailing school.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญํ•ด ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:58
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
01:59
- But you didn't teach sailing at first.
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-ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” ํ•ญํ•ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:00
- No.
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- ์•„๋‡จ.
02:01
- That came later. - That came later.
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- ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์™”์–ด์š”. - ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์™”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:03
I had to work my way up to that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ๊นŒ์ง€ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
02:06
And, well, of course, my very first job was as a babysitter.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ œ ์ฒซ ์ง์—…์€ ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„์‹œํ„ฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:13
- Yeah.
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02:13
- Uh-huh, so I actually became certified to babysit,
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- ์‘.
- ์–ดํ—ˆ, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ์‹ค ๋ฒ ์ด๋น„์‹œํŒ… ์ž๊ฒฉ์ฆ๋„ ์ทจ๋“ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
02:19
and I babysat for our neighbor's children for several years.
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๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ด์›ƒ์ง‘ ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ด์คฌ์–ด์š”.
02:25
- Yeah, growing up watching American movies,
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- ๋„ค, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์˜ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋ฉฐ ์ž๋ผ๋ฉด์„œ
02:27
that seemed quite a common thing, to babysit.
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์•„๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋Œ๋ณด๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฝค ํ”ํ•œ ์ผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ณด์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:32
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
02:33
- And what age were you when you did that?
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- ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
02:36
- I think that I got my certification when I was about 12,
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- ์ €๋Š” 12์‚ด ๋•Œ ์ž๊ฒฉ์ฆ์„ ์ทจ๋“ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
02:42
so probably from the time that I was 12 until,
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 12์‚ด ๋•Œ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ๋Šฆ์€ ๋•Œ๊นŒ์ง€์˜€์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
02:48
well, much later.
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02:50
It was not a regular job, but every couple weekends or so,
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์ •๊ทœ์ง์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ฃผ๋ง๋งˆ๋‹ค ๋‘์„ธ ๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„๋Š” ์•„์ด
02:56
I would do some babysitting.
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๋Œ๋ณด๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
02:58
- And before, did you know how to sail before
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ „์—๋Š”
03:00
going to the sailing school?
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ํ•ญํ•ด ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๊ธฐ ์ „์— ํ•ญํ•ด๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ค„ ์•Œ์•˜๋‚˜์š”?
03:02
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
03:03
So I actually started out as a student of the sailing school
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•ญํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šด ํ•ญํ•ด ํ•™๊ต์˜ ํ•™์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
03:07
which is how I learned to sail.
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.
03:09
- Very cool, and I've been to that sailing school before.
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- ์•„์ฃผ ๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ณ  ์ „์— ๊ทธ ํ•ญํ•ด ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐ€๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:12
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
03:13
- Remember when you took me out on the, is it cata--
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๊ฐ”์„ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์„ธ์š” , ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์นดํƒ€๋งˆ๋ž€์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
03:17
- Catamaran.
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- ์นดํƒ€๋งˆ๋ž€.
03:18
- Catamaran. - Yup.
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- ์Œ๋™์„ . - ์‘.
03:19
- And I got soaked.
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- ํ ๋ป‘ ์ –์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
03:21
- You did. - Yeah.
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š”. - ์‘.
03:23
- Did you like it?
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- ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ค์—ˆ์–ด?
03:24
- Oh, I loved it. - Yeah?
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- ์•„, ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ์–ด. - ์‘?
03:25
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
03:26
You also took me sailing once in Athens, Georgia.
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์กฐ์ง€์•„ ์ฃผ ์•„ํ…Œ๋„ค์—์„œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์€ ์ €๋ฅผ ํ•ญํ•ด์— ๋ฐ๋ ค๊ฐ€์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:30
It was boiling.
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๋“๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
03:32
- Yes. - That day.
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- ์˜ˆ. - ๊ทธ ๋‚ .
03:33
But yeah, that's pretty cool.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ค, ๊ฝค ๋ฉ‹์ง‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:34
And you were in sailing club, right?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•ญํ•ด ํด๋Ÿฝ์— ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ ?
03:38
- That's right.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”.
03:39
- At university. - Uh-huh, yup.
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- ๋Œ€ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ. - ์–ดํ—ˆ, ์‘.
03:40
- Or at college.
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- ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ.
03:41
Very good, and how many summers
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์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ธ์ผ๋ง ์Šค์ฟจ์—์„œ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์„ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ์ด๋‚˜
03:43
did you work at the sailing school?
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์ผํ•˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
03:46
- That's a great question.
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- ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:47
I probably worked for four summers at the sailing school,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ 4๋ฒˆ์˜ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„ ๋™์•ˆ ์„ธ์ผ๋ง ์Šค์ฟจ์—์„œ
03:53
three or four.
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3~4๋ฒˆ ์ผํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:55
- Cool.
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03:55
Did you enjoy it?
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- ์‹œ์›ํ•œ.
์ฆ๊ฑฐ์›  ๋‹ˆ?
03:56
- I loved it.
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- ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
03:57
I still kind of miss it.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œํ•œ๋‹ค. ๋‚ ์”จ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๋ฆ„์ด ๋˜๋ฉด
04:00
That's one thing that I think of
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์ƒ๊ฐ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
04:02
when the weather gets summery,
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04:05
I think, "Oh, when am I gonna get out on the water?
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"์•„, ์–ธ์ œ ๋ฌผ์— ๋‚˜๊ฐˆ๊นŒ?
04:09
"When am I gonna see my friends?"
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"์นœ๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ์–ธ์ œ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ?"
04:12
(upbeat music)
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(๊ฒฝ์พŒํ•œ ์Œ์•…)
04:13
Let me ask you a little bit about your first job.
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณผ๊ฒŒ์š”. ์ฒซ ์ง์žฅ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ์š”
04:16
- Okay.
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- ์•Œ์•˜์–ด์š”
04:17
- What was it?
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- ๋ญ์˜€์ฃ ?
04:18
- My first job was a paper round.
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- ์ œ ์ฒซ ์ง์žฅ์€ ํŽ˜์ดํผ ๋ผ์šด๋“œ์˜€์–ด์š” -
04:20
- [Kate] Okay.
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[Kate] ์•Œ์•˜์–ด์š”
04:21
- Do you call it paper route here?
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- ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ํŽ˜์ดํผ ๋ฃจํŠธ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋‚˜์š”?
04:25
- I think we would call it a paper round,
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- ํŽ˜์ดํผ ๋ผ์šด๋“œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ,
04:27
but it's a pretty uncommon job
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04:30
for young people to have today.
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์š”์ฆ˜ ์ Š์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•˜๊ธฐ์—” ์ข€ ๋“œ๋ฌธ ์ง์—…์ด๋„ค
04:34
- Right.
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04:34
- I think that was something that people
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- ๋งž์•„.
-
04:38
older than our generation had.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์„ธ๋Œ€๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚˜์ด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ
04:41
- Right, well, yeah, it was very popular when I was younger.
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- ๋งž์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ธ์„ ๋•Œ ์—„์ฒญ ์œ ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์ง€.
04:46
We, my friend and I, we went to the local news agent
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ, ์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ๋‚˜ , ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€์—ญ ๋‰ด์Šค ์—์ด์ „ํŠธ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
04:51
and we asked for a paper round job and we got one.
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ํŽ˜์ดํผ ๋ผ์šด๋“œ ์ผ์ž๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์š”์ฒญํ–ˆ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์–ป์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
04:54
- Okay.
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-
04:55
- And I think it paid around...
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค - ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋Œ€๋žต ๋ˆ์„ ์คฌ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”...
04:57
The first one I had paid nine pounds per week.
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ฃผ๋‹น 9ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋ƒˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
05:01
- That seems shockingly low.
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- ๋†€๋ž๋„๋ก ๋‚ฎ์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
05:04
- Well, yeah, it was a lot of money.
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- ์Œ, ๋„ค, ๋ˆ์ด ๋งŽ์•˜์–ด์š”
05:05
- Yeah, were you-- - When you're 12.
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- ๋„ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด-- - 12์‚ด ๋•Œ์š”
05:07
- When you're 12.
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- 12์‚ด ๋•Œ์š”
05:08
- Well, you had to be 13 to do it.
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- 13์‚ด์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์ฃ 
05:09
- Oh, were you 13?
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- ์•„, ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š” 13์‚ด์ด์„ธ์š”?
05:11
- I think I might have been 12, I can't remember.
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- 12์‚ด์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ ๊ธฐ์–ต์ด ์•ˆ ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”.
05:13
(Kate gasps) I was probably 13,
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(Kate ํ—๋–ก๊ฑฐ๋ฆผ) ๋‚˜ ์•„๋งˆ 13 ์‚ด์ด์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:17
but it was, yeah, it was a cool job.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€, ์˜ˆ, ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ง์—…์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:21
- Yeah? - It was fine,
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- ์‘? - ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•˜์–ด,
05:22
'cause I started off doing the afternoon round,
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜คํ›„ ๋ผ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
05:25
and mine was so easy.
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๋‚ด ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฌ์› ๊ฑฐ๋“ .
05:27
- Okay.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”.
05:28
- I think, 'cause they start you on the easy route,
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- ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์‰ฌ์šด ๊ฒฝ๋กœ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
05:31
to begin with, it might have only been 25 houses,
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์ฒ˜์Œ์—๋Š” 25์ฑ„ ๋ฐ–์— ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
05:37
and you wore this paper bag,
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด ์ข…์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฐฉ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋…”์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ถˆ๋ €๋‹ค๊ณ 
05:40
I think that's what they called it,
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์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:41
or paper round bag, you put your newspapers in there,
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๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—
05:44
the Lancashire Evening Post,
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Lancashire Evening Post๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ 
05:45
and you just deliver them through the mailbox.
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์šฐํŽธํ•จ์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:48
- Were they heavy?
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- ๋ฌด๊ฑฐ์› ๋‚˜์š”?
05:49
- Those weren't, but then my next one was
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- ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ๊ทธ๋‹ค์Œ์€
05:53
I had to do it on a bike,
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์ž์ „๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ€์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ
05:56
so you put your bag on your back, fill it with newspapers.
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ฐ€๋ฐฉ์„ ๋“ฑ์— ์งŠ์–ด์ง€๊ณ  ์‹ ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ์ฑ„์›Œ์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:00
It was really heavy, and I went on a bike,
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์ •๋ง ๋ฌด๊ฑฐ์› ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ž์ „๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ ํƒ”๊ณ  ํŠนํžˆ
06:04
and the Saturday morning edition, especially,
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ํ† ์š”์ผ ์•„์นจ ํŒ์€
06:06
was very heavy,
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๋งค์šฐ ๋ฌด๊ฑฐ์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
06:08
'cause they have those extra magazines in them,
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06:11
and that was the morning one.
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.
06:12
And I think that paid 14 pound a week.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— 14 ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ์ง€๋ถˆํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ
06:16
It was more than any other paper round
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์–ด๋–ค ํŽ˜์ดํผ๋ผ์šด๋“œ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋‚œ์ด๋„๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋†’์•˜
06:18
because it was the hardest one, but I enjoyed it.
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์ง€๋งŒ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋ดค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:22
- So you got paid about two pounds a day?
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- ํ•˜๋ฃจ์— 2ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ ์ •๋„๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›์•˜๋‚˜์š”?
06:26
- Yeah. - How long--
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06:26
- No, well, six days a week,
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- ์‘. - ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ์˜ค๋ž˜...
- ์•„๋‹ˆ, ์ผ์ฃผ์ผ์— 6์ผ,
06:28
I don't think I did the Sunday one.
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์ผ์š”์ผ์€ ์•ˆ ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„.
06:30
- Okay. - But yeah, I was 14 and 15.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”. - ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ž˜, 14์‚ด๊ณผ 15์‚ด์ด์—ˆ์ง€.
06:34
- How long did it take you?
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- ์–ผ๋งˆ๋‚˜ ๊ฑธ๋ ธ์–ด?
06:37
- 45 minutes.
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- 45 ๋ถ„.
06:38
- Okay. - Yeah.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”. - ์‘.
06:39
About 45 minutes, and then, yeah, after the paper round,
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์•ฝ 45๋ถ„ ํ›„, ์˜ˆ, ์ข…์ด ๋ผ์šด๋“œ๊ฐ€ ๋๋‚œ ํ›„, ์ œ๊ฐ€
06:44
I know you want me to talk about this.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์‹ ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์••๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:45
I had the milk round.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์…จ๋‹ค.
06:47
- I know!
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- ์•Œ์•„์š”!
06:48
You had a milk round.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์šฐ์œ  ๋ผ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
06:49
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
06:50
- Okay, I think that there is no one in our generation
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”,
06:57
in the United States who had a milk round.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์„ธ๋Œ€์— ๋ฐ€ํฌ ๋ผ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์€ ์—†๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:01
- I wonder if they still do it in the UK?
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- ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์•„์ง๋„ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ๊ถ๊ธˆํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:03
- I don't know.
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- ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:04
- It's not as...
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- ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ...
07:05
I did read that they're trying to bring it back,
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๊ฐ€์ ธ์˜ค๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฝ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
07:07
and if you're a little bit confused,
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฌ์šฐ์‹œ๋‹ค๋ฉด, ๋ฐ€ํฌ
07:09
a milk round is when there's a milkman,
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๋ผ์šด๋“œ๋Š” ์šฐ์œ  ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌ์›์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
07:13
and he has a milk van (laughs)
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์šฐ์œ  ๋ฐด์ด ์žˆ๊ณ (์›ƒ์Œ)
07:16
and he fills the milk van with milk.
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์šฐ์œ ๋กœ ์šฐ์œ  ๋ฐด์„ ์ฑ„์›๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:18
- With milk. (laugh)
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- ์šฐ์œ  ๋ž‘. (์›ƒ์Œ)
07:19
- But bottles of milk,
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- ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์šฐ์œ ๋ณ‘,
07:22
and instead of going to the store to buy milk,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€๊ฒŒ์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
07:26
every morning, you have milk delivered to your doorstep
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๋งค์ผ ์•„์นจ ์ด
07:29
in these little glass bottles,
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์ž‘์€ ์œ ๋ฆฌ๋ณ‘์— ์šฐ์œ ๋ฅผ ๋‹ด์•„ ์ง‘ ์•ž๊นŒ์ง€ ๋ฐฐ๋‹ฌํ•ด ์ค˜์š”.
07:32
and they had different colored tops,
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07:33
silver, red, and blue, I think,
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๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์—
07:37
and silver was whole milk, I think red was skimmed,
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์€์ƒ‰์€ ์ „์œ ์ด๊ณ  ๋นจ๊ฐ„์ƒ‰์€ ํƒˆ์ง€์ œ์ด๊ณ 
07:42
and blue might have been half and half
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ํŒŒ๋ž€์ƒ‰์€ ๋ฐ˜๋ฐ˜ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ 
07:44
or something like that,
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07:46
and we used to stand on the back of the milk van,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์šฐ์œ  ๋ฐด ๋’ค์— ์„œ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
07:52
I think it's a milk van. - This is crazy to me.
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์šฐ์œ  ๋ฐด์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. - ์ด๊ฑด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด.
07:54
This seems so dangerous.
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์ด๊ฑด ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:56
- Well, it was, and at five a.m., we get picked up.
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- ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์˜ค์ „ 5 ์‹œ์— ๋ฐ๋ฆฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ‘๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:02
It took us two hours. - Wow.
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๋‘ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ๊ฑธ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์šฐ์™€.
08:05
- And yeah, so he'd shout out, "Two silver!"
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋Š” "์€ํ™” 2๊ฐœ!"๋ผ๊ณ  ์™ธ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:09
So you grab two silvers, you run to the,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ 2๊ฐœ์˜ ์€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์žก๊ณ , ๋‹ฌ๋ ค๊ฐ€,
08:12
run, you can't walk, run to the door, put the silvers down,
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๋‹ฌ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฑธ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋ฌธ์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ฌ๋ ค๊ฐ€ , ์€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ ค๋†“๊ณ ,
08:15
take the empty bottles, and then put them back in the crate.
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๋นˆ ๋ณ‘์„ ๊ฐ€์ ธ๋‹ค๊ฐ€, ์ƒ์ž์— ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋„ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:19
- Wow. - The milk crate.
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- ์šฐ์™€. - ์šฐ์œ  ์ƒ์ž.
08:20
And I did it, I only lasted a few weeks,
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08:24
because it was the middle of winter.
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ํ•œ๊ฒจ์šธ ์ด์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ช‡ ์ฃผ ๋ฐ–์— ์ง€์†๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:26
(Kate shivers)
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(Kate shivers)
08:27
And my friend was small, so he could duck under the van.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚ด ์นœ๊ตฌ๋Š” ์ž‘์•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ฐด ์•„๋ž˜๋กœ ๋ชธ์„ ์ˆ™์ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:31
My head was sticking out.
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๋จธ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํŠ€์–ด๋‚˜์™€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
08:33
- Oh!
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- ์˜ค!
08:34
- And your hands were frozen,
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08:36
because you're collecting those empty milk bottles
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๋นˆ ์šฐ์œ ๋ณ‘์„ ๋ชจ์œผ๋Š๋ผ ์†์ด ์–ผ์—ˆ์–ด์š”
08:38
that were freezing.
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.
08:40
- I cannot imagine that.
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-์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:42
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
08:43
- I can't imagine it.
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- ์ƒ์ƒ์ด ์•ˆ ๋ผ์š”.
08:44
- But that wasn't my dangerous job.
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- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‚ด ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด.
08:46
- What was your most dangerous job?
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- ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์œ„ํ—˜ํ•œ ์ผ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
08:47
- At the driving rage.
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- ์šด์ „ ๋ถ„๋…ธ์—์„œ.
08:48
- (gasps) Oh.
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- (ํ—‰) ์•„.
08:51
- Did I ever tell you about that job?
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- ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋งํ•œ ์ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
08:52
- I think you might have told me a little bit,
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋งํ–ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„
08:54
but clearly there's more to talk about.
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์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ ํ•  ๋ง์ด ๋” ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:56
- Well, so, at the golf driving range, I think I was 15,
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- ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ณจํ”„์—ฐ์Šต์žฅ์—์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ 15์‚ด์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:01
and then I was doing the milk round
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ์œ  ๋ผ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ฐ€
09:03
and then we realized that we could get paid
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
09:07
five pounds an hour, so two pounds fifty an hour,
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์‹œ๊ฐ„๋‹น 5ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ, ์ฆ‰ 2ํŒŒ์šด๋“œ 50์„ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊นจ๋‹ฌ์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:09
to work at the driving range,
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09:12
but they started all the new people in the wrong way.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:17
- Uh-oh, what did they do?
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- ์–ด-์˜ค, ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
09:19
- Well, they gave you one of those tubes to collect,
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09:23
which you had to stab on the ball and go up.
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๊ณต์„ ์ฐ”๋Ÿฌ ์œ„๋กœ ์˜ฌ๋ผ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ˆ˜์ง‘์šฉ ํŠœ๋ธŒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์คฌ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:26
I think it held probably 20 balls, this little tube,
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ 20๊ฐœ ์ •๋„์˜ ๊ณต์„ ๋‹ด์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ, ์ด ์ž‘์€ ํŠœ๋ธŒ์—์„œ
09:31
and they'd say, "Okay, go to the 150 yard line,"
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ "์ข‹์•„, 150์•ผ๋“œ ๋ผ์ธ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”. ๊ณจํ”„ ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ
09:36
which is the most popular range to hit
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ธ๊ธฐ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ ˆ์ธ์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค."
09:40
when you're practicing golf, and go collect the golf balls.
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.
09:44
And they did it, they put us out there at peak hours,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๊ณ , ํ”ผํฌ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋‚ด๋ณด๋ƒˆ๊ณ ,
09:49
and they gave us a helmet, so like a motorcycle helmet,
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์˜คํ† ๋ฐ”์ด ํ—ฌ๋ฉง๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ํ—ฌ๋ฉง์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ณจํ”„
09:53
and if you go to the driving range
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์—ฐ์Šต์žฅ์— ๊ฐ€์„œ
09:57
and you see some kid with a helmet on collecting golf balls,
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ํ—ฌ๋ฉง์„ ์“ฐ๊ณ  ๊ณจํ”„๊ณต์„ ๋ชจ์œผ๋Š” ์•„์ด๋ฅผ ๋ณธ๋‹ค๋ฉด
10:02
that's an immediate target.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ฆ‰๊ฐ์ ์ธ ๋ชฉํ‘œ.
10:03
- Oh no.
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- ์•ˆ ๋ผ.
10:05
- So everyone would just aim for you,
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ฒจ๋ƒฅํ–ˆ์„ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:06
(Kate gasps) and it was dark,
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(Kate ํ—๋–ก๊ฑฐ๋ฆผ) ๋‚ ์ด ์–ด๋‘์› ๊ณ ,
10:09
and you just didn't see these balls coming,
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ด ๊ณต๋“ค์ด ์˜ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์„ ๋ฟ์ด๊ณ ,
10:12
and they'd just hit you in the back, hit you in the leg.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋“ฑ์„ ๋•Œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋•Œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:14
- Was it really painful?
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- ์ •๋ง ์•„ํŒ ๋‚˜์š”?
10:15
- Yeah, I mean, getting hit by a golf ball.
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- ๋„ค, ์ œ ๋ง์€, ๊ณจํ”„๊ณต์— ๋งž์•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:17
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
10:18
- It's incredible that they did it.
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- ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•ด๋ƒˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:20
- (laughs) Yeah.
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- (์›ƒ์Œ) ๋„ค.
10:21
- Before health and safety went crazy.
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- ๊ฑด๊ฐ•๊ณผ ์•ˆ์ „์ด ๋ฏธ์ณ๋ฒ„๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ ์ „์—.
10:23
- Oh no.
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- ์•ˆ ๋ผ.
10:24
- You could ban those kinds of jobs.
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- ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ธˆ์ง€ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:27
So yeah, that was a job I did for a little while,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ž ์‹œ ๋™์•ˆ ํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
10:30
but it got a lot better,
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ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋‚˜์•„์กŒ์–ด.
10:32
because I only worked Sundays after a while,
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ํ•œ๋™์•ˆ์€ ์ผ์š”์ผ์—๋งŒ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ณ 
10:36
and the Sunday job was easy,
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์ผ์š”์ผ ์ผ์€ ์‰ฌ์› ์–ด.
10:38
because nobody went to the driving range on a Sunday,
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์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์ผ์š”์ผ์— ๊ณจํ”„ ์—ฐ์Šต์žฅ์— ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ฑฐ๋“ 
10:42
because they were playing golf.
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๊ณจํ”„๋ฅผ ์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค.
10:43
- Right.
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- ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
10:45
- But then you get in one of those carts.
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- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์นดํŠธ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์— ํƒ€๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:48
What do you call that, the quad?
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์ฟผ๋“œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅด๋‚˜์š”?
10:50
- We call them golf carts.
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- ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ณจํ”„ ์นดํŠธ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฆ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:52
- Well, it wasn't just a golf cart.
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- ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๊ณจํ”„ ์นดํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด์š”.
10:53
It was more like a buggy.
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๋ฒ„๊ธฐ์นด์— ๊ฐ€๊น์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:54
- Like a dune buggy?
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- ๋“„ ๋ฒ„๊ธฐ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ?
10:56
- Yes. - Okay.
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- ์˜ˆ. - ์ข‹์•„์š”.
10:57
- And then it had this thing on the front
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์•ž์ชฝ์—
11:00
where it would collect the golf balls,
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๊ณจํ”„๊ณต์„ ๋ชจ์œผ๋Š” ๋ฌผ๊ฑด์ด ์žˆ์–ด์„œ
11:02
so we'd collect the golf balls, no one would come,
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ณจํ”„ ๊ณต์„ ๋ชจ์œผ๋ฉด ์•„๋ฌด๋„ ์˜ค์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ 
11:06
and I would hit the golf balls.
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ณจํ”„๊ณต์„ ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:07
- Yeah. - So it was a fun thing to do.
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- ์‘. -๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:10
- Did your golf game get a lot better?
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- ๊ณจํ”„ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์ข‹์•„์กŒ๋‚˜์š”?
11:12
- A lot better. - I would imagine so.
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- ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•„. - ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:13
- Yeah, a lot better.
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ํ›จ์”ฌ ์ข‹์•„.
11:14
I bought some golf clubs then,
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ๊ณจํ”„ ํด๋Ÿฝ์„ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ์‚ฌ์„œ
11:16
started to play a lot of golf, yeah.
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๊ณจํ”„๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์น˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
11:18
- Do you miss golf?
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- ๊ณจํ”„๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์šฐ์„ธ์š”?
11:19
- I'm gonna start playing again. (laughs)
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- ๋‹ค์‹œ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (์›ƒ์Œ)
11:22
- Great.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”.
11:23
- (laughs) So yeah, that was an interesting job.
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-(์›ƒ์Œ) ๋„ค, ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ž‘์—…์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:28
(upbeat music)
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(๊ฒฝ์พŒํ•œ ์Œ์•…)
11:29
What other jobs have you had after sailing school?
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ํ•ญํ•ด ํ•™๊ต๋ฅผ ์กธ์—…ํ•œ ํ›„ ์–ด๋–ค ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋‚˜์š”?
11:34
- After sailing school, to be honest,
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- ์„ธ์ผ๋ง ์Šค์ฟจ์„ ๋งˆ์นœ ํ›„ ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ
11:36
most of my jobs have been teaching jobs.
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๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์ง์—…์€ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์ง์—…์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:38
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
11:39
- So I've been an ESL teacher abroad and online.
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ํ•ด์™ธ์™€ ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ์—์„œ ESL ๊ต์‚ฌ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:46
I have also been an English language teacher
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์ €๋„ ๋ฏธ๊ตญํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜์–ด๊ต์‚ฌ๋ฅผ ํ•ด์„œ
11:51
to American students, so I've taught English language arts,
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11:58
which is like literature and reading and writing,
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๋ฌธํ•™๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์€ ์˜์–ด๊ณผ ์ฝ๊ธฐ์™€ ์“ฐ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณค๊ณ 
12:02
and I've done that in public schools,
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๊ณต๋ฆฝํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ฐ€
12:06
and then I'm about to be an assistant teacher,
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์กฐ๊ต๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜,
12:10
so most of my jobs have been teaching in one way or another.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์ง์—…์˜ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:13
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
12:15
Yeah, we lived in Spain for a couple of years,
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์˜ˆ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ๋™์•ˆ ์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์—์„œ ์‚ด์•˜๊ณ 
12:18
and we both taught English there.
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๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:20
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
12:21
- Which then led to all of this now.
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- ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ์ผ๋กœ ์ด์–ด์กŒ์–ด.
12:23
- All of this, yeah. - Yeah.
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- ๋‹ค ๊ทธ๋ž˜. - ์‘.
12:24
Did you have any jobs at college?
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๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ ์ง์—…์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
12:27
- I mostly would focus on studying,
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- ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ฃผ๋กœ ๊ณต๋ถ€์— ๋ชฐ๋‘ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
12:31
and I was the captain of the sailing club.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ์š”ํŠธ ๋™์•„๋ฆฌ์˜ ๋ถ€์žฅ์ด์—ˆ๋‹ค.
12:37
and I had-- - Sailing club.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š”-- - ์„ธ์ผ๋ง ํด๋Ÿฝ.
12:38
- Sailing club.
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- ์„ธ์ผ๋ง ํด๋Ÿฝ.
12:39
Well, it was like a sport
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์Šคํฌ์ธ  ๊ฐ™์•˜
12:41
but it was also kind of an intramural--
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์ง€๋งŒ ์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ต๋‚ด--
12:43
- Yeah. - Recreational sport.
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- ๋„ค. - ๋ ˆํฌ๋ฆฌ์—์ด์…˜ ์Šคํฌ์ธ .
12:45
So we competed, but it was also
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์Ÿํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
12:47
a lot of just more relaxed activity.
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๋” ํŽธ์•ˆํ•œ ํ™œ๋™์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:51
- Right.
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- ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
12:52
- We weren't college competition.
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- ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋Œ€ํ•™ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์–ด.
12:56
- No, and that's important because, in the UK,
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- ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”
13:00
if you'd say, "I'm on the football team or the rugby team,"
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"์ €๋Š” ํ’‹๋ณผ ํŒ€์ด๋‚˜ ๋Ÿญ๋น„ ํŒ€์— ์†ํ•ด ์žˆ์–ด์š”."๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๋ฉด
13:04
it doesn't mean that much.
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๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ํฐ ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:08
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
13:09
- People don't watch this, but in America,
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- ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ, ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”
13:11
when you think of the football team.
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์ถ•๊ตฌํŒ€์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•  ๋•Œ.
13:12
- Team.
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- ํŒ€.
13:13
- Then 100,000 people are watching.
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- ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด 10๋งŒ ๋ช…์ด ์ง€์ผœ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
- Yeah, it's huge. - But the sailing club,
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- ๋„ค, ์—„์ฒญ๋‚˜๋„ค์š”. - ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ํ•ญํ•ด ๋™ํ˜ธํšŒ๋Š”
13:16
you only had, what, 20,000 watching?
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20,000๋ช…๋ฐ–์— ๋ชป ๋ดค์–ด?
13:19
- Yeah. - Yeah.
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- ์‘. - ์‘.
13:20
- 20,000, no!
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- 20,000, ์•ˆ๋ผ!
13:23
It was all very relaxed,
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํŽธ์•ˆํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
13:25
but we were competing against some schools
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
13:28
that had very competitive programs.
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๋งค์šฐ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿ์ ์ธ ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์ผ๋ถ€ ํ•™๊ต์™€ ๊ฒฝ์Ÿํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:30
- Right.
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- ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
13:31
- They beat us.
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- ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋•Œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:33
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
13:34
- They beat us.
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13:34
- Yeah. (laughs)
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- ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋•Œ๋ ธ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
- ์‘. (์›ƒ์Œ)
13:37
- So that was one thing.
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:38
I was doing some freelance editing.
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ํ”„๋ฆฌ๋žœ์„œ ํŽธ์ง‘์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:42
So at the same time. - Oh, yeah?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋™์‹œ์—. - ์˜ค ์˜ˆ?
13:43
That's right, you used to write books.
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๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค, ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ฑ…์„ ์“ฐ๊ณค ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:45
- Uh-huh, yeah. - Yeah.
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- ์–ด, ๊ทธ๋ž˜. - ์‘.
13:47
I remember that.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•œ๋‹ค.
13:49
Yeah, so I did a lot of,
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๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ
13:51
I did some ghostwriting and editing
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๋Œ€ํ•„๊ณผ ํŽธ์ง‘,
13:53
and that kind of work, too.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
13:55
(upbeat music)
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(๊ฒฝ์พŒํ•œ ์Œ์•…)
13:57
What has been your most challenging job?
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ํž˜๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ์ผ์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ด์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
14:03
- Most challenging?
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- ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์–ด๋ ค์šด?
14:10
The first thing that comes to mind
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ๋– ์˜ค๋ฅด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
14:11
is teaching teenagers in Spain.
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์ŠคํŽ˜์ธ์—์„œ ์ฒญ์†Œ๋…„์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:14
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
14:17
- Challenging in the sense of
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- ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์˜๋ฏธ์—์„œ ๋„์ „์€
14:19
it caused me the most amount of stress and frustration,
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๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋งŽ์€ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค์™€ ์ขŒ์ ˆ๊ฐ์„ ์ฃผ์—ˆ๊ณ 
14:24
and it was quite difficult to keep them in line.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ์–ด๋ ค์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:29
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
14:31
- I'd say.
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- ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:32
- Yes, I could see that being the case.
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- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ณผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:35
I would say that teaching has been my favorite job
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์ผ์ด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ์ง์—…์ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
14:39
and that it definitely has its moments of stress
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๋ถ„๋ช…ํžˆ
14:42
and pressure from a variety of sources.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ถœ์ฒ˜์—์„œ ์˜ค๋Š” ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค์™€ ์••๋ ฅ์˜ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:47
And then you mentioned
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹น์‹ ์€
14:48
that we were gonna talk about dream jobs.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:50
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
14:51
- What's your dream job?
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง์—…์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
14:53
- You know what it is, don't you?
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- ๋ญ”์ง€ ์•Œ์ง€?
14:54
- Is it this?
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- ์ด๊ฑฐ์š”?
14:56
- Well, the idea of the dream job
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- ๊ธ€์Ž„, ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง์—…์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์€
14:59
is what you're not doing now, but you could do.
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:01
- You could do. - Yeah.
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์‘.
15:02
- Okay, so if you weren't doing this dream job,
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”, ์ด ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง์—…์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋‹ค๋ฉด
15:06
what dream job would you be doing?
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์–ด๋–ค ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
15:07
- A football manager.
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- ์ถ•๊ตฌ ๊ฐ๋….
15:09
- Okay.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”.
15:10
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
15:11
- And why do you think that would be your dream job?
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- ์™œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง์—…์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
15:14
- Well, I would say football player,
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- ๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ถ•๊ตฌ ์„ ์ˆ˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์ง€๋งŒ
15:17
but that's not gonna happen any more.
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๋” ์ด์ƒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์€ ์ผ์–ด๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:19
- Okay.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”.
15:20
- Not because of my technical abilities,
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- ๋‚ด ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์ธ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ
15:24
but because of my age, and then, yeah, football manager.
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๋‚ด ๋‚˜์ด, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋„ค, ํ’‹๋ณผ ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ € ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:29
Well, I actually grew up playing a lot of computer games
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์Œ, ์ €๋Š” ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ถ•๊ตฌ ๊ฐ๋…์ธ ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ž๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
15:34
where you are the football manager.
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.
15:37
- So like a soccer manager.
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- ์ถ•๊ตฌ ๊ฐ๋…์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ.
15:41
- It was called,
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-
15:42
the first one was called Championship Manager,
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์ฒซ ๋ฒˆ์งธ๋Š” ์ฑ”ํ”ผ์–ธ์‹ญ ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ €๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถˆ๋ ธ๊ณ ,
15:45
and they rebranded it to Football Manager.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ํ’‹๋ณผ ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ €๋กœ ๋ฆฌ๋ธŒ๋žœ๋”ฉํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:47
- Okay.
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”.
15:48
- And it's just where you're the manager of a team,
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- ํŒ€์˜ ๊ฐ๋…์ด ๋˜์–ด
15:52
you buy players, you talk, you organize training,
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์„ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์˜์ž…ํ•˜๊ณ , ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ณ , ํ›ˆ๋ จ์„ ์กฐ์งํ•˜๊ณ ,
15:56
you have the tactics going on, and then you play a game,
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์ „์ˆ ์„ ์งœ๊ณ , ๊ฒŒ์ž„์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:00
which usually is just text on the screen
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฒŒ์ž„์€ ํ™”๋ฉด์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ํ…์ŠคํŠธ์— ๋ถˆ๊ณผํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:03
telling you what's happening.
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์‚ฌ๊ณ .
16:04
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
16:05
- And I love it.
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ข‹์•„ํ•œ๋‹ค.
16:06
I used to play that for hours and hours and hours.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๊ณ  ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๊ณ  ์—ฐ์ฃผํ•˜๊ณค ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
16:10
But I'd love to be a football manager
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ํ’‹๋ณผ ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ €๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:12
because firstly, I love the sport.
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์ฒซ์งธ๋กœ ์ €๋Š” ์Šคํฌ์ธ ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:14
- Right.
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- ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
16:15
- I think I'd be pretty good at it
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-
16:17
if I applied myself. - I think you would, too.
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์ง์ ‘ ์‹ ์ฒญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ฝค ์ž˜ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. - ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฑฐ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
16:21
- And I just find it really interesting,
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š”
16:25
trying to problem-solve all the time
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ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋ฌธ์ œ๋ฅผ ํ•ด๊ฒฐํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅ
16:27
and come up with tactics to beat a specific team.
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ํŠน์ • ํŒ€์„ ์ด๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ „์ˆ ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํŠน์ • ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ํŠน์ • ํ”Œ๋ ˆ์ด์–ด์™€ ๋Œ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š”
16:30
I think the management would be really interesting,
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๊ฒฝ์˜์ง„์ด ์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
16:33
to talk to specific players in specific ways.
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.
16:36
- Uh-huh.
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- ์–ด ํ—ˆ.
16:38
- And just to try and win things.
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹จ์ง€ ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์‹œ๋„ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ด๊ธฐ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด.
16:40
You know, to be successful at it.
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์„ฑ๊ณตํ•˜๋ ค๋ฉด.
16:42
- Sure, yeah.
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- ๋„ค, ๋„ค.
16:44
- What about you?
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋•Œ์š”?
16:46
- I think that, in many ways,
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- ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๋ฉด์—์„œ
16:50
I am doing my dream job already,
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์ €๋Š” ์ด๋ฏธ ์ œ ๊ฟˆ์˜ ์ง์—…์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:54
because I'm continuing to teach,
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๊ณ„์† ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ 
16:57
I get to spend time with kids,
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์•„์ด๋“ค๊ณผ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ
17:01
so all of that are things that I love,
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๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:04
but I think that if I was going to add
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17:07
something into the mix,
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๋ฏน์Šค์— ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๊ณ 
17:08
I would like to work on my writing more
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธ€์„ ์“ฐ๊ณ 
17:12
and be professionally recognized for that,
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์ „๋ฌธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ธ์ • ๋ฐ›๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:15
so that would be my goal, to write some books.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ฑ…์„ ์“ฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
17:19
- Is it your goal?
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ชฉํ‘œ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:20
- Yeah. - Yeah?
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- ์‘. - ์‘?
17:21
- Yeah, still very much so. - Cool.
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- ๋„ค, ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์‹œ์›ํ•œ.
17:24
(upbeat music)
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(๊ฒฝ์พŒํ•œ ์Œ์•…)
17:26
Have you had any other jobs in the past?
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๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์— ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
17:29
- I think that more or less covers it.
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- ์–ด๋Š ์ •๋„๋Š” ์ปค๋ฒ„ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:34
I've done various things.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ผ์„ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:36
I've worked at an exercise studio,
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์ €๋Š” ์šด๋™ ์ŠคํŠœ๋””์˜ค์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
17:42
I've done different permutations of teaching.
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๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ๊ต์œก ์ˆœ์—ด์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:45
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
17:46
- So teaching corporate clients,
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ธฐ์—… ๊ณ ๊ฐ๋“ค์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ณ ,
17:48
teaching one-on-one lessons in English,
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ์ผ๋Œ€์ผ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜์ง€
17:54
but yeah, there's a thread of teaching
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๋งŒ, ๋„ค, ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์—๋Š”
17:58
kind of woven through it.
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์ผ์ข…์˜ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์นจ์ด ์งœ์—ฌ์ ธ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:00
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
18:01
I've had, I think I've probably had about 30 jobs--
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์ €๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ 30๊ฐœ ์ •๋„์˜ ์ง์—…์„ ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”--
18:05
- Wow. - In the past.
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- ์™€์šฐ. - ๊ณผ๊ฑฐ์—.
18:07
- Wow.
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- ์šฐ์™€.
18:08
- Some of them have been temporary,
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- ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ์ž„์‹œ์ง์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:10
where I've been doing a lot of data input and admin
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์ €๋Š”
18:13
for three weeks at this company,
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์ด ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ 3์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ,
18:15
three weeks at a different company,
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ์—์„œ 3์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ๋ฐ์ดํ„ฐ ์ž…๋ ฅ ๋ฐ ๊ด€๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:17
but I had that marketing manager job--
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ๊ทธ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ € ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค--
18:20
- Okay.
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18:20
- For a couple of years before we met.
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- ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
- ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งŒ๋‚˜๊ธฐ ๋ช‡ ๋…„ ์ „์—.
18:22
Call centers, I've worked in bars.
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์ฝœ ์„ผํ„ฐ, ์ €๋Š” ๋ฐ”์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:27
That was interesting.
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18:27
I worked at the student union nightclub
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ํฅ๋ฏธ ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋Œ€ํ•™์‹œ์ ˆ
๋™์•„๋ฆฌ ๋™์•„๋ฆฌ์—์„œ ์ผํ–ˆ๋‹ค
18:31
when I was at university.
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.
18:32
- I bet you would have some stories from that.
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- ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์žฅ๋‹ดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:34
- Yeah, that was definitely an interesting time,
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- ๋„ค, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์—ˆ๊ณ 
18:37
and I didn't really enjoy it.
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๋ณ„๋กœ ์ฆ๊ฒ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:40
- No?
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18:40
- No, because you're sober and everyone's really drunk.
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- ์•„๋‹ˆ์š”?
- ์•„๋‡จ, โ€‹โ€‹๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์ˆ ์— ์ทจํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์ทจํ–ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š”.
18:44
- Yeah, that sounds terrible. - And they're just, you know,
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- ๋„ค, ๋”์ฐํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋‹จ์ง€, ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ,
18:46
trying to get free drinks from you,
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ์„œ ๊ณต์งœ ์Œ๋ฃŒ๋ฅผ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•  ๋ฟ,
18:49
they never tip in England.
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์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š” ์ ˆ๋Œ€ ํŒ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:52
- Oh yeah. - Yeah.
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- ์˜ค ์˜ˆ. - ์‘.
18:53
- That's another conversation.
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- ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋Œ€ํ™”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:55
- I've done some cold calling, which is quite frustrating
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- ์ฝœ๋“œ ์ฝœ์„ ๋ช‡ ๋ฒˆ ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
19:01
because people don't want to answer the phone
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ „ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ณ 
19:03
and talk to you. - Yeah.
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๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ƒ๋‹นํžˆ ๋‹ต๋‹ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์‘.
19:04
- What else have I done?
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- ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋˜ ๋ฌด์Šจ ์ง“์„ ํ•œ๊ฑฐ์•ผ?
19:05
I was a porter in a hospital.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋ณ‘์›์˜ ํฌํ„ฐ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:06
- Oh, yeah.
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- ์˜ค ์˜ˆ.
19:07
That one also is an interesting--
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด--
19:10
- There's some stories there. - Yeah.
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- ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๋ช‡ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์‘.
19:11
- It was crazy.
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- ๋ฏธ์ณค์–ด.
19:12
Porter is basically where you transport patients
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ํฌํ„ฐ๋Š” ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ
19:15
around the hospital, and then you tasks here and there,
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๋ณ‘์› ์ฃผ๋ณ€์—์„œ ํ™˜์ž๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜์†กํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์ €๊ธฐ์„œ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ 
19:20
and if people are getting aggressive,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด ๋˜๋ฉด
19:23
then the porters go.
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ํฌํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ์ด๋™ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:24
- Really?
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- ์ •๋ง?
19:25
So you were like the hospital bouncer?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ณ‘์› ๊ฒฝ๋น„์› ๊ฐ™์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
19:27
- Well, I don't know why they asked me to go one time,
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-๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์™œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฐ€๋ผ๊ณ  ํ–ˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:32
because I was really young, and very skinny,
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ €๋Š” ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ธ๊ณ  ๋งค์šฐ ๋ง๋ž๊ณ 
19:37
and there were bigger guys than me,
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๋‚˜๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ํฐ ๋‚จ์ž๋“ค์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ  ์˜ˆ์ „์—๋Š”
19:40
and there used to be a couple of security guards,
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๊ฒฝ๋น„์›์ด ๋‘์–ด ๋ช… ์žˆ์—ˆ์ง€๋งŒ
19:42
but then they asked porters to go with them
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๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌผ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ํฌํ„ฐ๊ฐ€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐ€๋Š”๋ฐ
19:44
if there was any trouble,
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19:46
and some people are just crazy.
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์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ๋ฏธ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:50
- Really? - It was--
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- ์ •๋ง? - ๊ทธ๊ฑด--
19:51
- Aggressive? - Very aggressive.
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- ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ? - ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:52
- Maybe having a mental health crisis?
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- ์ •์‹  ๊ฑด๊ฐ•์— ์œ„๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹๊นŒ?
19:55
- Well, that, too, but I mean,
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- ์Œ, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ธด ํ•œ๋ฐ, ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์—์„œ ๋ณด๋˜
19:59
there was someone that I used to see at the gym,
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ , ๋ช‡ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด๊ณ 
20:03
and she used to work out for hours and hours
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์šด๋™์„ ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ฐ€
20:08
and then she was in the hospital once
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ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๋ณ‘์›์— ์ž…์›ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ
20:11
and she started to get very aggressive with people.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ๊ณต๊ฒฉ์ ์ด ๋˜๊ธฐ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”. .
20:14
- Uh-oh.
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- ์–ด ์˜ค.
20:15
- And she threatened to put needles in my eyes or something.
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋…€๋Š” ๋‚ด ๋ˆˆ์— ๋ฐ”๋Š˜ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐ•๊ฒ ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์œ„ํ˜‘ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:17
- Oh my gosh.
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- ์ด๋Ÿฐ.
20:19
- And then I saw her at the gym the next day
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค์Œ๋‚  ์ฒด์œก๊ด€์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋…€๋ฅผ ๋ดค๋Š”๋ฐ
20:22
and she just came over
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๊ทธ๋…€๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์™€์„œ ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ
20:24
and she was my best friend all of a sudden.
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๋‚ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์นœํ•œ ์นœ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:27
- So you've been hit by golf balls.
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- ๊ณจํ”„๊ณต์— ๋งž์•˜๊ตฐ์š”.
20:30
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
20:31
- You've been almost dropped off the back of a milk truck,
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์šฐ์œ  ํŠธ๋Ÿญ ๋’ค์— ๋–จ์–ด์งˆ ๋ป”ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
20:35
you have had to be a bouncer in a hospital,
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๋ณ‘์›์—์„œ ๊ฒฝ๋น„์›์ด ๋˜์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
20:41
and the hardest job that you've had
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ด๋ณธ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํž˜๋“  ์ผ์€
20:43
was dealing with teenagers. (laughs)
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์‹ญ๋Œ€๋“ค์„ ๋‹ค๋ฃจ๋Š” ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. (์›ƒ์Œ)
20:44
- Yeah, yeah.
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- ๋„ค, ๋„ค.
20:46
- You've had some experience.
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- ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์žˆ์œผ์…จ๊ตฐ์š”.
20:49
- Well, I'd say the most challenging one, actually,
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- ์Œ, ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์–ด๋ ค์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์€
20:51
was when I was the marketing manager,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ๊ด€๋ฆฌ์ž์˜€์„ ๋•Œ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:54
because we used to run expensive campaigns
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
20:59
with very tight deadlines that had to get results.
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๋งค์šฐ ๋นก๋นกํ•œ ๋งˆ๊ฐ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์— ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ’๋น„์‹ผ ์บ ํŽ˜์ธ์„ ์šด์˜ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:03
- Right.
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- ์˜ค๋ฅธ์ชฝ.
21:04
- And we were constantly advertising
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ
21:05
in newspapers and magazines,
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์‹ ๋ฌธ๊ณผ ์žก์ง€์— ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ƒˆ๊ณ ,
21:07
and I was in charge of getting the ads together,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ๋ชจ์œผ๊ณ , ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ์žก์ง€์—
21:11
choosing the right ad for the right magazine,
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์ ํ•ฉํ•œ ๊ด‘๊ณ ๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๋Š”
21:13
and doing all that kind of stuff.
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๋“ฑ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ผ์„ ๋‹ด๋‹นํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งˆ๊ฐ์ผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—
21:15
That was very challenging, because of the deadline.
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๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ค์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
21:18
- But probably, now that I'm thinking about it,
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- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด๋ณด๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ ๊ทธ ์ผ์ด
21:21
that was probably the job where you built your set of skills
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์„ฑ์ทจํ•œ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ผ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ผ๋ จ์˜ ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์„ ๊ตฌ์ถ•ํ•œ ์ผ์ด์—ˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
21:27
to be able to do the other things that you've accomplished.
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.
21:31
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
21:32
(upbeat music)
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(๊ฒฝ์พŒํ•œ ์Œ์•…)
21:33
I wanna just quickly talk about time off.
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ํœด๊ฐ€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:36
- Oh, yeah.
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- ์˜ค ์˜ˆ.
21:37
- So to take some time off, which means to not work,
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ž ์‹œ ์‰ฌ๋‹ค, ์ผ์„ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๋œป์ธ๋ฐ
21:41
and this might be for vacation, for sickness,
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ํœด๊ฐ€, ๋ณ‘๊ฐ€,
21:46
for national holidays. - Yes.
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๊ณตํœด์ผ ๋“ฑ์ด ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์˜ˆ.
21:48
- I think one of the biggest differences is
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- ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฐ ์ฐจ์ด์  ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋Š”
21:49
the amount of time off you get in America versus in the UK.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ ์‰ฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„์˜ ์–‘์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:56
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
21:59
To be honest, there are many wonderful things
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์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์— ์‚ด๋ฉด์„œ ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์ผ๋“ค์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:03
about living in the United States.
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22:06
Paid time off is not one of them.
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์œ ๊ธ‰ ํœด๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:09
So I think that the average job, nine to five,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ‰๊ท ์ ์œผ๋กœ 9์‹œ์—์„œ 5์‹œ ์‚ฌ์ด์˜
22:13
full-time job comes with about 10 days off a year.
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์ •๊ทœ์ง์€ 1๋…„์— ์•ฝ 10์ผ์˜ ํœด๊ฐ€๋ฅผ ์ œ๊ณตํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:20
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
22:21
- And that doesn't include national holidays,
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- ๊ณตํœด์ผ์€ ํฌํ•จ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:23
which there are a few national holidays,
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๊ณตํœด์ผ์ด ๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
22:26
but that's it. - Yeah.
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. - ์‘.
22:28
- So 10 days off.
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ 10์ผ ํœด๊ฐ€.
22:29
So if you get sick or if your children get sick,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์•„ํ”„๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์•„์ด๋“ค์ด ์•„ํ”„
22:35
or anything like that, it's really easy to eat through
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๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‰ฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋จน๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค--
22:39
the time off that you have-- - Do you get sick days?
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- ์•„ํ”ˆ ๋‚ ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
22:41
- That's a great question. - Or does it depend?
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- ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. - ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ๊ฐ€์š”?
22:43
- And to be honest, to be honest,
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-์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ
22:45
I'm not sure about it.
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์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:47
I think it's a different company policy--
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํšŒ์‚ฌ ์ •์ฑ…์ธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ--
22:49
- Right. - Depending on where you work.
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- ๋งž์•„์š”. - ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณณ์— ๋”ฐ๋ผ.
22:52
- Right, and in the UK,
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- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜๊ตญ์—์„œ๋Š”
22:53
I remember it was 28 days paid leave.
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28์ผ์˜ ์œ ๊ธ‰ํœด๊ฐ€์˜€๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์œผ๋กœ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:58
Is that the right way to say it, paid leave, here?
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ์œ ๊ธ‰ํœด๊ฐ€๋ผ๋Š” ํ‘œํ˜„์ด ๋งž๋‚˜์š”?
23:00
- I guess so. - Yeah.
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- ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. - ์‘.
23:02
- Or paid days off. - Paid days off.
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- ๋˜๋Š” ์œ ๊ธ‰ ํœด๊ฐ€. - ์œ ๊ธ‰ํœด๋ฌด.
23:04
Yeah, 28 days, and I remember, actually,
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๋„ค, 28์ผ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌ์‹ค
23:07
when I was working in that marketing manager job,
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ € ์ผ์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
23:10
by the way, they didn't give me the title
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๊ทธ๋‚˜์ €๋‚˜ ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ €๋ผ๋Š” ์งํ•จ์„ ์ฃผ์ง€๋Š” ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ
23:12
of marketing manager but I was marketing manager,
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์ €๋Š” ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ €์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:15
(laughs) I don't know what to say.
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(์›ƒ์Œ) ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์„ํ•˜๋Š”.
23:17
- I can call you marketing manager.
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- ๋งˆ์ผ€ํŒ… ๋งค๋‹ˆ์ €๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:21
- So you'd look at your calendar for the year
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ•œ ํ•ด์˜ ๋‹ฌ๋ ฅ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๋‚ ์งœ๋ฅผ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค๋ฉด
23:24
and you'd have to get in there quick
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๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:26
to get the days that you wanted,
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.
23:27
because you couldn't clash with somebody else
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ถฉ๋Œํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
23:31
or with more than two people in a department,
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ํ•œ ๋ถ€์„œ์—์„œ ๋‘ ๋ช… ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ์ถฉ๋Œํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:34
and I remember I got them off for the World Cup in Germany,
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋…์ผ์—์„œ ์—ด๋ฆฐ ์›”๋“œ์ปต์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊บผ๋ƒˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:40
which was well worth the time off.
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.
23:43
- Sure.
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- ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๋Š”.
23:44
- And that same year, the Leeds Festival,
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ฐ™์€ ํ•ด, ๋ฆฌ์ฆˆ ํŽ˜์Šคํ‹ฐ๋ฒŒ,
23:47
and then I can't remember what else,
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๊ธฐ์–ต๋‚˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ
23:49
but yeah, you used to have to plan ahead
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์˜ˆ, ๋ฏธ๋ฆฌ ๊ณ„ํšํ•˜๊ณ 
23:51
and say this date, this date, and get in early.
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์ด ๋‚ ์งœ, ์ด ๋‚ ์งœ๋ฅผ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์ผ์ฐ ๋“ค์–ด๊ฐ€์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:53
- So you would basically have about four weeks off?
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- ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ 4์ฃผ ์ •๋„ ์‰ฌ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑด๊ฐ€์š”?
23:59
- Yeah.
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- ์‘.
24:01
- That's pretty good.
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- ๊ฝค ์ข‹์€๋ฐ.
24:02
- And more than that,
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- ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์ด์ƒ์œผ๋กœ,
24:04
'cause the work, 28,
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์ผ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—, 28,
24:06
five, the five days out of seven.
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5, 7์—์„œ 5์ผ.
24:09
- Oh, okay.
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- ์•„, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”.
24:10
- So more like five weeks and three days.
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- 5์ฃผํ•˜๊ณ ๋„ 3์ผ ์ •๋„.
24:14
- That's, yeah, that's amazing.
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- ๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ๋†€๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:16
- Yeah, and then, but where we worked,
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- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ผํ•˜๋˜ ๊ณณ์—์„œ๋Š”
24:20
the factory used to shut down
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๊ณต์žฅ์ด
24:23
between Christmas and New Year,
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์™€ ์ƒˆํ•ด ์‚ฌ์ด์— ๋ฌธ์„ ๋‹ซ์•˜๊ณ ,
24:24
and you had to take those days off.
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๊ทธ ๋‚ ์€ ์‰ฌ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:26
- Oh.
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24:26
- That was one thing,
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- ์˜ค.
- ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ์„œ
24:27
so you didn't have as much flexibility there,
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์œตํ†ต์„ฑ์ด ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์ง€๋งŒ
24:30
but it was good to be off between Christmas and New Year.
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ํฌ๋ฆฌ์Šค๋งˆ์Šค์™€ ์ƒˆํ•ด ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์‰ฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:34
- Do you think, and there are lots of studies
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-
24:38
about productivity in the workplace and holidays,
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์ง์žฅ๊ณผ ํœด์ผ์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์— ๊ด€ํ•œ ๋งŽ์€ ์—ฐ๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
24:44
do you think that your time off
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ํœด๊ฐ€๊ฐ€
24:48
helped you be more productive?
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๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์ƒ์‚ฐ์„ฑ์„ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
24:51
- Probably.
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- ์•„๋งˆ.
24:53
I think it's always good to get a break.
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ํœด์‹์„ ์ทจํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์–ธ์ œ๋‚˜ ์ข‹์€ ์ผ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:57
I might have been more...
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๋” ๊ทธ๋žฌ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค...
24:59
Well, to be honest, I think for me,
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์Œ, ์†”์งํžˆ ๋งํ•ด์„œ, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทผ๋ฌด์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด
25:03
it was more important about the working day,
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๋” ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:06
and not taking breaks during the working day,
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๊ทผ๋ฌด์ผ ๋™์•ˆ ์‰ฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ,
25:12
and not standing up, getting away from your computer,
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์ผ์–ด์„œ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ , ์ปดํ“จํ„ฐ์—์„œ ๋ฒ—์–ด๋‚˜,
25:15
getting a little bit of exercise.
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์•ฝ๊ฐ„์˜ ์šด๋™.
25:17
I think that's more detrimental.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋” ํ•ด๋กœ์šด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
25:18
- That's hard.
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- ์–ด๋ ต๋„ค์š”.
25:19
Yeah, I could see that.
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์˜ˆ, ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:21
And I haven't had, really, an office job
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ ํ•œ ๊ณณ์— ๊ฐ‡ํ˜€ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค ์ผ์„ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ํ•ด๋ณธ ์ ์ด ์—†์ง€๋งŒ,
25:26
where I was stuck in one place for all day,
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25:30
but I know that when I have had a full work day,
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์˜จ์ข…์ผ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ์„ ๋•Œ
25:35
just psychologically, I really prepare rewards for myself
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์‹ฌ๋ฆฌ์ ์œผ๋กœ๋‚˜๋งˆ ํ•˜๋ฃจ ์ข…์ผ ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ณด์ƒ์„ ์ •๋ง๋กœ ์ค€๋น„ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:41
throughout the day. - Yeah.
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. - ์‘.
25:42
- So I'm like, oh, it's nine o'clock.
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- ์•„, ์ง€๊ธˆ 9์‹œ์•ผ.
25:44
It's muffin time.
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๋จธํ•€ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:46
Time for some coffee and a muffin,
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์ปคํ”ผ์™€ ๋จธํ•€์„ ๋จน์„ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด์•ผ,
25:47
or like, oh, it's 11 o'clock-- - Yes.
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์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด, ์˜ค, 11์‹œ์•ผ-- - ๋„ค.
25:50
- Gonna take that little walk around the building,
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- ๊ฑด๋ฌผ ์ฃผ๋ณ€์„ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์‚ฐ์ฑ…ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
25:52
or whatever it is.
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๋ญ๋“ ์ง€ ํ•  ๊ฑฐ์˜ˆ์š”.
25:55
- Yeah, we did that when I was working in the office.
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- ๋„ค, ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ์ผํ•  ๋•Œ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
25:58
I mean, it's a very British example, but a cup of tea.
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€, ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์˜๊ตญ์ ์ธ ์˜ˆ์ด์ง€๋งŒ ์ฐจ ํ•œ ์ž”์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:02
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
26:03
- You know, someone would brew up at 9:30,
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- ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€ 9์‹œ 30๋ถ„์— ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋“์ด๋ฉด
26:06
and everyone would get a cup of tea.
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๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:08
And someone else would brew up again at 11.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๋Š” 11์‹œ์— ๋“์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:11
- You do drink tea every two hours?
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- ๋‹น์‹ ์€ 2์‹œ๊ฐ„๋งˆ๋‹ค ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
26:15
- Yeah, and that's what,
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- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ
26:18
you know, that's the reward you're talking about,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ณด์ƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:21
to brew up and get a cup of tea.
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์–‘์กฐํ•˜๊ณ  ์ฐจ๋ฅผ ๋งˆ์‹œ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:23
- And to be honest, I miss that a little,
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-์†”์งํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์ข€ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œ์š”.
26:28
and I definitely miss having regular co-workers
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26:32
over the summer. - Yeah, yeah.
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์—ฌ๋ฆ„๋ฐฉํ•™์— ๋‹จ๊ณจ ๋™๋ฃŒ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ์›Œ์š”. - ๋„ค, ๋„ค.
26:34
- You know, just a couple of people
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-
26:36
that you can really share jokes with,
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์ •๋ง ๋†๋‹ด์„ ์ฃผ๊ณ ๋ฐ›์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
26:39
and, you know, get to have that experience.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๋ช‡ ๋ช…๋งŒ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:43
- I think it's important.
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- ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:45
Yeah, and in the space that we're in,
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๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณต๊ฐ„์—
26:47
there were some, I think you waved to somebody before?
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๋ช‡ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ, ์ „์— ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์—๊ฒŒ ์†์„ ํ”๋“ค์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€๋ฐ?
26:51
- Yeah, I did.
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- ๋„ค, ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š”.
26:52
- So there are other people who work here
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋ฌด์‹ค์—์„œ ์ผํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๊ณ 
26:54
in the different offices, so I do get that interaction.
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, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ƒํ˜ธ ์ž‘์šฉ์„ ์–ป์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:59
- Yeah. - And it's important.
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- ์‘. - ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:00
You know, working on your own sometimes,
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๊ฐ€๋” ํ˜ผ์ž ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
27:02
especially when, you know,
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ํŠนํžˆ
27:04
when you're just talking into a camera on your own?
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ํ˜ผ์ž ์นด๋ฉ”๋ผ์— ๋Œ€๊ณ  ๋ง์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ์š”?
27:06
- Yeah.
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27:06
- It feels really strange.
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- ์‘.
- ๊ธฐ๋ถ„์ด ์ •๋ง ์ด์ƒํ•ด์š”.
27:08
- But it's also amazing knowing that there are
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- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ๊ฐ์‹œํ•  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฐ–์— ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ๋†€๋ž๊ณ ...
27:10
all those people out there who are gonna watch you and--
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27:12
- Yes. - Yes.
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- ๋„ค. - ์˜ˆ.
27:14
- But you don't feel that in this moment.
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- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:16
- Yes.
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- ์˜ˆ.
27:17
- It's a strange thing.
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- ์ด์ƒํ•œ ์ผ์ด์•ผ.
27:18
- But it's fun to talk to you, too.
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- ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋„ˆ๋ž‘ ์–˜๊ธฐํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์–ด.
27:20
- Yeah, it's all right.
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์•„.
27:21
- We're like co-workers right now.
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- ์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๋™๋ฃŒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
27:22
- Yeah, we need to do this more often.
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- ๊ทธ๋ž˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋” ์ž์ฃผ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ด.
27:24
- Oh, yeah.
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- ์˜ค ์˜ˆ.
27:25
- So yeah, I think we can wrap it up there.
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- ๋„ค, ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ ๋งˆ๋ฌด๋ฆฌํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:28
- All right.
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- ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
27:29
- It's the beautiful time of the video.
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- ์˜์ƒ์˜ ์•„๋ฆ„๋‹ค์šด ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:32
- Woo-hoo!
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- ์šฐํ›„!
27:33
- Kate's question.
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- ์ผ€์ดํŠธ์˜ ์งˆ๋ฌธ.
27:34
- Okay, so my question is,
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- ์ข‹์•„์š”, ๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์€, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋˜
27:38
what is the most interesting job that you've had?
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ง์—…์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
27:42
And also, what is your favorite part about working?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ผํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
27:49
- Great.
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- ์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ.
27:50
Great, most interesting job you've had,
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์กŒ๋˜ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•˜๊ณ  ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์šด ์ง์—…
27:53
and your favorite park, part, about working.
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๊ณผ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์•„ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ณต์›, ์ผ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:57
Perfect.
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์™„๋ฒฝํ•œ.
27:58
- All right.
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- ๊ดœ์ฐฎ์€.
27:59
- All right, well, again, thank you so much
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- ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ
28:01
for spending this time with us.
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์ €ํฌ์™€ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ๋ณด๋‚ด์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋ฐ˜์œผ๋กœ
28:03
If you want to get some resources based on this conversation
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๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๋ฅผ ์–ป์œผ๋ ค๋ฉด
28:07
then check out the To Fluency program.
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To Fluency ํ”„๋กœ๊ทธ๋žจ์„ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
28:10
Full details will be in the description.
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์ž์„ธํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์€ ์„ค๋ช…์— ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:13
And why not share this conversation with a friend?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ์นœ๊ตฌ์™€ ๊ณต์œ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
28:16
- Or a co-worker.
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- ๋˜๋Š” ๋™๋ฃŒ.
28:17
- Or a co-worker.
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- ๋˜๋Š” ๋™๋ฃŒ.
28:19
Very good, very good.
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์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์•„, ์•„์ฃผ ์ข‹์•„.
28:20
You can come again.
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๋‹ค์‹œ ์˜ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:21
- Thank you.
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- ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:22
- All right, well, thank you again for watching,
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- ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์‹œ์ฒญํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๋‹ค์‹œ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:24
and we'll speak to you soon.
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๊ณง ์—ฐ๋ฝ๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:25
Bye-bye. - Until next time.
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์•ˆ๋…•. - ๋‹ค์Œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„๊นŒ์ง€.
28:26
- Bye-bye. - Bye.
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- ์•ˆ๋…•. - ์•ˆ๋…•.
28:27
(upbeat music)
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์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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