ENGLISH PODCAST: SECRET MEMORY TRICKS, SHADOWING, AND THE KEY TO FLUENCY

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- In this English lesson,
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you're gonna learn all about shadowing and memorization.
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And this is gonna be a fun episode,
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because I'm gonna talk about how
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I memorized a shuffled deck of cards,
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how I used to do this all the time as a little party trick.
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We're gonna talk about shadowing,
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and the history of shadowing,
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because I received a comment about this recently,
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and it was a really interesting comment
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that I just wanted to explore further.
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And then we're going to talk about if shadowing works,
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and why we can't just rely on memorization completely,
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especially rote memorization
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when it comes to languages and learning English.
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But before we get into all of that,
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my name is Jack from tofluency.com.
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Welcome to you.
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If you're new here, subscribe to the podcast,
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because you'll get an episode every Thursday.
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And also, share this episode with a friend.
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And one last thing, go to the description
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for some of the links and resources for this lesson,
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along with a link to get my book,
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The 5-Step Plan for English Fluency.
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Let's start with a comment on a video I made
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a few years ago now, where I talked about shadowing,
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and somebody got in contact with me
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just to leave this comment.
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It's really interesting.
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It says the shadowing technique,
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no way belongs to Professor Alexander,
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I think it's called Arguelles.
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I'm sorry, with all my respect to him.
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Let me explain.
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This method has been used by the so-called Hafiz,
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who have memorized the Quran for at least 1,500 years.
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They may have borrowed this technique
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from other previous cultures as well.
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When I was about 10 years old,
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I also used the same exact method for a short time
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to memorize some parts of the Quran verses.
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And in 1991, when I was 18,
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I decided to use this method in my language learning.
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He goes on to say,
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in the process of learning all 14 languages I have learned,
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I have used this method.
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We need to know the truth, and respect real knowledge,
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because it is our lifelong heritage, best regards.
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And this comment reminded me
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of a book I read a long time ago,
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called Moonwalking with Einstein.
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And in the book,
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the author goes into the history of memorization,
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and there are few parts of the book that I remember.
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One of them is talking about memory palaces,
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which we'll get into later.
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And the other one was about how history
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has been passed down orally through generations.
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And this is another topic I'm interested in,
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ancient history, and even the lost civilizations.
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For example, Atlantis,
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and how the story of the deluge, the flood,
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has been passed down in different ancient cultures,
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orally through poems and storytelling
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before writing was invented.
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So this is interesting to me,
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that that's one thing that stood out,
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and it links to the comment
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that was left on my YouTube channel,
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because we're talking about
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how to memorize something before writing,
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and in the past,
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it said that people just used to memorize things
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by passing it down orally.
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And stories really help with that too,
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because we tend to remember stories
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better than just facts on their own.
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Now before we go into shadowing,
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I do want to talk about my party trick,
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which is being able to memorize a pack of cards.
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When somebody just shuffles a pack of cards,
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I can remember them in the order exactly.
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So if you don't know what a pack of cards is,
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it's the 52 cards.
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I know there are different variations throughout the world,
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but I'm talking about the ones
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that are mainly used in the UK and parts of Europe,
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the U.S., et cetera,
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where you have Jack of Hearts, the Queen of Spades,
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aces, et cetera.
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And I'm gonna leave a link to this website
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where it talks about just how big this number is
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when it comes to the amount of possibilities you can have
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with 52 cards.
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And this is called 52 factorial,
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and this is not a math lesson,
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but I just want to read this one paragraph,
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or two paragraphs that talk about
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just how big this number is in terms of just randomly
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being able to, the chances of randomly
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being able to remember a pack of cards.
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And it says that imagine that you set a timer,
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and you count the number of seconds
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from the 52 to 0, 52 factorial to zero,
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using this big, big number.
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And to visualize this, and to wrap your head around it,
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which means to really understand it,
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it says start by picking your favorite spot on the equator.
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You're going to walk around the world along the equator,
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but take a very leisurely pace
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of one step every billion years.
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Make sure to, oh, we don't need to read that bit.
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After you complete your round the world trip,
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so taking a step every billing years around the equator,
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remove one drop of water from the Pacific Ocean.
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Now do the same thing again.
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Walk around the world at 1 billion years per step,
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removing one drop of water from the Pacific Ocean
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each time you circle the globe.
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Continue until the ocean is empty.
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When it is, take one sheet of paper,
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and place it on the ground.
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Now fill the ocean back up,
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and start the entire process all over again,
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adding a sheet of paper to the stack
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each time you've emptied the ocean.
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So hopefully you are following so far.
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This is showing the seconds it takes to reach this number.
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So you take a step every billion years around the equator,
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take a drop out the ocean.
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When you do that, take a sheet of paper,
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and then fill the ocean up,
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and then start the process again
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until you've emptied the ocean.
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And you do this until the stack of paper
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reaches from the Earth to the sun, which is a very long way.
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Now, it says look at your timer.
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You'll see that most of the digits haven't changed.
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So do it all over again a thousand times more.
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Okay, and once you do it a thousand times more,
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you're just about a third of the way done.
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Now, in order to memorize this stack of cards
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in the correct order, you can't just randomly guess.
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You can't just try to remember,
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but instead, you create something called a memory palace.
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A memory palace.
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And then you assign the cards to different types of things,
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so that you can put the actions within your memory palace.
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Now that might not make much sense, okay?
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But this is how people
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have memorized certain things over time,
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how people have used these memorization techniques
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in order to really remember things.
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Now I want to relate this to learning English,
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but before I do,
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I do recommend the book, Moonwalking with Einstein,
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and I'll leave a link to the book in the description,
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and I'll also leave a link to The Memory Palace.
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So you can just get more information on this
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if you find it interesting,
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but this all relates back to learning English,
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because we think about memory when it comes to language.
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How many words can we remember?
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What sentences can we remember?
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What verbs, how to conjugate verbs,
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the verb tables, et cetera.
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And in order to really memorize something,
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we might need to use these techniques,
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but also in the book, it talks about the forgetting curve,
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and how if we see something,
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and then we see it again the next day,
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and then four days, eight days, 16, et cetera,
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then we will commit this to our long-term memory.
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And when it comes to language as well,
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because it has meaning,
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because there's always some type of context.
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We can't just memorize verb tables,
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because we need to use grammar as well.
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We need to be able to form the right sentence structure.
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We need to be able to say the sounds correctly,
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and use the right intonation.
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So memorizing single vocabulary, and memorizing verb tables,
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and memorizing grammar rules can help in certain ways,
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but it doesn't lead to that flow of a language.
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And the flow of the language comes when,
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and somebody commented on this,
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saying it's just a perfect way to describe it,
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is when it just feels right.
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When you use a sentence at the right time
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using the correct grammar,
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and you don't think about rules,
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you don't think about the words you have memorized
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over the years.
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Instead, it just flows, it just feels right.
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For example, if you ask somebody, how are you?
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How are you, with that intonation.
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You're not thinking about the sentence structure,
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and the grammar rules,
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and conjugating the verb to be.
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Instead, it just comes out.
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It's a phrase, you know it, it feels right in that moment.
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And I'm sure you can think of other phrases that you use,
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where it just feels right for you too,
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where you just say something, and it's just there.
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It's correct, it feels good to say it.
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And you know it's right, because you get that feeling,
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and I've made many lessons on this,
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and I've talked about this a lot in the past,
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and I'll leave a link to the main lesson on YouTube,
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where I go through this in depth,
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and how you can really use the memorization techniques,
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where you get the right amount of repetition
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in order to remember something, and how to use sentences.
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But I do want to talk about shadowing now,
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because part of that came up with shadowing,
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and how the person on YouTube
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talked about how you can use the shadowing technique
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to remember things as well.
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And it got me thinking a little bit more about shadowing,
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and I want to talk about
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what I think's really important
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when it comes to this technique.
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But if you don't know what it is,
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it's when you listen to audio, English phrases, for example,
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or a speech, and you repeat the speech,
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or you copy what the speaker is saying,
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but instead of pausing it,
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you just continue listening and repeating.
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And it's a skill in a way,
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because you have to be able to listen to what's coming next
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while also repeating to what you have heard.
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So if you've ever done it before,
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you'll know there is a skill involved here,
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and it's not a super easy task to do.
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It's one of the more difficult speaking techniques
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that you can use.
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And the idea behind it
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is that you are repeating after an English speaker,
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you are practicing your speaking.
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You are practicing your listening,
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and you are committing these patterns to long-term memory.
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So by repeating lots of sentences,
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and sentences, and sentences,
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you are feeling and internalizing the grammar
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that you come across, which means that you encounter.
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So when you encounter sentences
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using specific grammar structures,
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then you are internalizing them,
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especially if you get enough repetition.
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So this is the shadowing technique,
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and this has been used in language learning
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from my research since the 50s, probably a lot longer.
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But in terms of the modern age,
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people have been talking about it since the 50s.
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It has been really pushed by some polyglots as well,
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people who learn various languages,
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and know various languages,
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and including the person who commented
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on the original video.
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And I think it can be a useful tool
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when it comes to language learning.
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Now in the past, I've talked about this technique,
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but more in brief, it's episode 19,
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if you're on Spotify, or Apple iTunes,
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again, I'll link to this in the description,
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so you can have easy access to it,
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especially if you're on YouTube.
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Hi to you if you're on YouTube.
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I want to talk about it more for the rest of this episode.
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So again, what you do is you listen to audio,
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and then you repeat the audio,
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but you don't pause the audio.
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Instead, you just keep listening, repeating.
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So while you're saying something,
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you have to be listening
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to the next thing that's coming along.
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And just thinking about it,
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it could also help your attention levels
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when it comes to comprehension,
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when you're speaking and thinking at the same time,
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this could maybe help that too.
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But the key is to find audio that is relevant to you,
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so you have strong context,
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because part of language learning
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is knowing how to use words and phrases
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in the right type of context.
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So for example, if it's a Ted Talk,
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you've got the context of a Ted Talk.
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If it's a podcast conversation,
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you've got the context of that as well.
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So know, the important thing to know is
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choose audio that makes sense to you.
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It's not too difficult to understand,
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especially when it comes to shadowing,
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and it's also slow enough, so that you can repeat it,
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because if it's too fast,
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and your pronunciation skills aren't that high,
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or you need to work on them a bit more,
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then it can be difficult to do.
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And this is why I think using this
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in a combination with the, what I call the LRRC method,
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where you pause the audio,
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and you listen to yourself, and you make corrections,
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and you learn the sounds of English.
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I think these two techniques together are really good.
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The key also is to make sure that you're not just mumbling,
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that you're saying the words and the sounds of English
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in the correct way, in the best way that you can.
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And a good way to do that
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is to record yourself while you're doing this,
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so you can listen to yourself repeat what is said.
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And that way, you can just know if the audio is too hard,
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if it's a good exercise or not.
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We don't want to be mumbling too much when we're doing this,
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we want to try and do it as clearly as possible.
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And again, with shadowing, you're not pausing,
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so it is more difficult to do.
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And then I also think it's important
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to repeat the same audio,
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because that way, you're going to get the repetition of it.
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You're gonna get the practice,
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you're going to improve the second time around too.
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So the repetition of the phrases
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is really gonna help you with that.
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In fact, you can think about doing something similar,
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where what you do is you take a speech, for example,
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or some type of dialogue,
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and you use the technique where you listen,
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repeat, record, compare, where you get to the stage,
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where you can say the words and phrases correctly.
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Then you use the same audio,
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and then you do the shadowing technique
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where you're just following along, and saying it out loud.
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And then if you do this enough,
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what you can do is commit it to memory.
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So you can just say the speech
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without listening to the audio.
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And I think that last part,
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it just ties it all together,
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which means it brings us
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to what we were talking about before
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in terms of memorization, and being able to remember things.
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And the key to this as well
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is knowing that when you memorize sentences,
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it's not just about the sentences that you're memorizing,
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but it's being able to use chunks of that sentence,
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or parts of that sentence, and in a way, create your own.
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So if, for example, you hear the phrase.
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I always use this example,
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but I'm excited about going to the party.
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It's a simple phrase in a way,
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but people make mistakes in terms of the verb pattern,
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and the prepositions here.
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So I'm excited about going to the party.
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If you learn this, then you'll be able to modify it,
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and say, he was excited about going to the party,
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or he was excited about going to the party,
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or they will be excited about seeing you later.
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And the more sentences you do,
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the more patterns that you see,
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the more you'll be able to just say things instantly,
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fluently, and accurately.
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And this shadowing technique can really help you with that,
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because what you're doing is your repeating sentences.
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You're not really thinking about the grammar.
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Instead, you're just internalizing it.
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You're absorbing all this grammar,
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and the more that you absorb,
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and the more that you internalize,
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the more you will be able to use it freely,
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and in a way that makes sense.
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And I just want to end on the Google effect,
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which while I was researching for this episode,
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I thought this was just a useful thing to add in,
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something that's quite interesting.
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And this is reading from Wikipedia.
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The Google effect, also called digital amnesia,
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is the tendency to forget information
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that can be found readily online
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by using internet search engines.
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Okay, so it says,
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according to the first study about the Google effect,
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people are less likely to remember certain details
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they believe will be accessible online.
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So, for example, if someone says,
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what's the weather like tomorrow?
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Or what's the weather going to be like tomorrow?
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Then you can say, oh, it's gonna be 65 and sunny,
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but because you have this readily accessible,
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you're less likely to remember it.
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And I think that's just an interesting point to end on,
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where when it comes to memory and remembering things,
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technology is changing the way that we remember things.
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So it's an interesting note to finish on.
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And I just want to say again,
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thank you so much for listening to this podcast.
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I hope you have found it useful.
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Give the shadowing technique a try.
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Use it in that method that I think is,
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is a great technique to use,
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where you take a speech, or a conversation, or a dialogue,
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or any audio in English that might be want two minutes long,
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or five minutes long.
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First, you repeat the sentences,
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so you can say them just like the speaker,
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and you record yourself doing this,
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and modify the way you say it.
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Then use the shadowing technique
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to get that practice and the fluency from it,
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and then try to memorize the whole speech.
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And I'm sure when you get to that stage,
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the language that is used in that speech
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will become more familiar to you,
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and you'll be able to use it in a more flexible way.
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Okay, so again, if you're new here,
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subscribe to the podcast,
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or to the YouTube channel if you're on YouTube.
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And if you found it useful,
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then please send this episode to a friend.
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Just click that share button,
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and send it to them on WhatsApp, on messenger,
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by text message, or share it on a social media platform.
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Okay, thank you so much for being here,
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and I'll speak to you soon.
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Bye for now.
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