How Your Company Can Gain a Global Talent Advantage | Johann Daniel Harnoss | TED
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審譯者: SF Huang
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Last summer I was in New York
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去年夏天,我人在紐約,
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and had a conversation
that had me thinking ever since.
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有段對話讓我很難忘。
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I met Mubarik Imam,
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我見到了穆芭里克‧伊曼,
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one of the early engineers at WhatsApp,
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WhatsApp 早期的工程師之一,
00:14
and what she told me
changed how I look at migration.
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她跟我說的話,
改變了我對移民的看法。
00:17
She said to me,
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她對我說:
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“Johann, I will never forget
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「約翰,我永遠不會忘記我
初次步入 WhatsApp 的辦公室,
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the first time I walked
into the office at WhatsApp.
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00:24
It felt like a mini United Nations."
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感覺就像是個迷你聯合國。」
00:26
And she explained to me that it was
precisely that global diversity
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她向我解釋,正是那種全球多樣性,
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that made them design the app
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讓他們在設計 app 時考量的不僅
00:32
not just for the average
US college kid in mind,
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是一般的美國大學生,
00:36
but for a truly global audience.
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還有真正全球的對象。
00:38
And in that process, they asked
questions few others would.
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在那過程中,他們會問
很少人問的問題。
00:42
Like, does the app work
in the more rural parts of Africa,
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比如,這個 app
在非洲鄉村地區、亞洲
及其他地方也能用嗎?
00:46
Asia and elsewhere,
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00:47
or will it work for a refugee on a boat
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或者,船上的難民能不能用它
00:50
sending a message
back home to their family?
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發訊息給他們家鄉的家人?
00:53
The rest is history.
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剩下的大家都知道了。
00:55
WhatsApp became a product
fit for the world,
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WhatsApp 變成適合
全世界用的產品,
00:58
and chances are you, like me,
might be using it every single day.
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有可能你我每天都在使用它。
01:03
Of course, WhatsApp
is not just an outlier.
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當然,WhatsApp 不是特例,
01:06
Look at ChatGPT, Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines,
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看看 ChartGPT、
輝瑞 BNT 疫苗、
Google 搜尋、YouTube、
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Google search, YouTube,
the iPhone, the list goes on.
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iPhone,還有許多其他的。
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Each one of these
pretty remarkable products
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這些非常驚人的產品全部都
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was built by teams
of immigrants and locals,
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是由移民與當地人
組成的團隊所打造,
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working creatively side by side.
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他們肩並肩,用創意的方式來工作。
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And that's why leading companies today,
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那就是為什麼現今領頭的公司
01:23
they don't just outsource internationally
to save money on cheaper labor.
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把工作外包不只是為了
靠更便宜的勞工來省錢。
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They do that,
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那是一個原因,
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but what they also do
is that they hire immigrants
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但還有一個原因,他們會僱用移民,
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for their insights, experiences
and unique perspectives.
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來吸收他們的洞見、
經驗與獨特的觀點。
01:36
There are 280 million international
migrants in the world today.
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現今,全世界有
兩億八千萬名國際移民。
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And many more,
up to 750 million people,
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還有更多,多達七億五千萬人,
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say that they would move
internationally if they could.
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說如果他們辦得到的話
他們會移民到國外。
01:46
I lead our research on global migration
here at BCG, a global consulting firm.
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我在全球顧問公司 BCG
負責研究全球移民。
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And I also advise governments
and companies on innovation
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我也是政府及企業的顧問,
針對創新及移民策略提供建議。
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and migration strategy.
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01:57
Outside of work, I co-lead a team
of more than 100 volunteers.
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工作之餘,我共同領導
一支超過一百名志工的團隊。
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We are Imagine,
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這個團隊叫「想像」,
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and we're a community
of talent without borders.
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是個沒有國界的人才社群。
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And every day we help skilled migrants
from places like Afghanistan, Syria,
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每天我們都在協助
有技能的移民,他們來自
阿富汗、敘利亞、埃及、
巴基斯坦、奈及利亞等地。
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Egypt, Pakistan, Nigeria or elsewhere.
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We help them find a new job abroad,
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我們協助他們在國外找到新工作,
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come here and integrate into a new life.
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來這裡,融入新生活。
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And from these experiences,
I can tell you,
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根據這些經驗,我可以告訴各位,
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these 280 million people,
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這兩億八千萬人,
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they aren't just statistics.
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他們不只是統計數字。
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They're real human beings with families,
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他們是活生生的人,有家庭、
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dreams and hopes of a better future.
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夢想,和對更美好未來的幢景。
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Yet, too often when they relocate,
they are met with fear,
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但,通常,當他們搬遷時,
他們會遇到恐懼、
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prejudice or even outright violence.
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偏見,或甚至就是暴力相向。
02:38
Yet in my mind, migration
does not have to be a zero-sum,
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但在我心中,移民
不必要是場零和遊戲,
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one game where one person wins
and the other person loses.
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零和遊戲的意思是有一個人贏
而另一個人輸。不是的。
02:47
No.
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如果從不同的角度來看,移民
可能是策略性優勢的強大來源,
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If we look at it differently,
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it can actually be a source
of great strategic advantage,
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both for companies and entire countries.
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對企業和整個國家而言都是如此。
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We looked at this recently
in a joint report with IOM,
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近期我們和 IOM 合作研究
並提出一份報告,
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the International Organization
for Migration of the United Nations.
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IOM 是聯合國國際移民組織。
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And in that report, we published
two headline figures.
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在報告中,我們刊載了
兩個主要數字。
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One, migrants already today
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第一,現今,移民已經
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create a massive boost
to our local economies,
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大大提振了我們當地的經濟,
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totaling nine trillion
US dollars a year in 2020,
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2020 年總計為每年九兆美金,
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and that impact will only increase
to 2050 to 20 trillion US dollars a year.
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到 2050 年,影響會提升到
每年二十兆美金。
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And what's more,
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此外,
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migrants can help us address
pretty acute labor shortages
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移民能協助我們處理在我們
經濟中出現的嚴重勞工短缺,
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that we see in our economies,
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because it turns out,
we don't have a lack of jobs.
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因事實證明,我們並不缺工作。
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In many countries,
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在許多國家,
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we tend to have a lack of workers.
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我們通常缺的是勞工。
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And that lack of workers,
it costs all of us dearly.
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勞工短缺讓我們付出很大的代價,
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Three billion US dollars,
not per year, but per day.
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三十億美金,
這不是每年,而是每天的數字。
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And that is doctor
appointments not happening,
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意思就是,會無法預約看醫生、
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packages not delivered
or flights back home being canceled.
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沒有人投遞包裏、
或者回家的航班被取消。
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So how can we make migration
work better for everyone?
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我們要如何讓移民來工作
變成對大家都更有益?
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That's exactly the question we looked at
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我們最近在一項 BCG 調查中
訪談了八百位主管,
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when we recently interviewed
800 executives in a recent BCG survey.
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就是想要探討這個問題。
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And what they told us really surprised me,
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他們跟我們說的,讓我很吃驚,
因為有 95% 的受訪者說:
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because 95 percent said,
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"Johann, we see the value
in hiring globally,"
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「約翰,我們知道招募
世界各地人才的價值。」
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but only five percent said,
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但只有 5% 說:「是的,
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"And yes, we're already
doing it strategically
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我們在策略上已經在這麼做了,
且有成果可以證明。」
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and we're getting
the results to show for it."
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04:15
So companies seem to struggle big time
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所以,企業似乎很難
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to follow the lead of WhatsApp and others.
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跟隨 WhatsApp
和其他這類企業的腳步。
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And when we dug deeper and wondered why,
we initially thought it was a visa issue.
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我們想知道原因所以再深入研究,
最初我們以為是簽證問題。
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But then we took a closer look
at the visa policies
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但接著我們進一步研究
超過二十五國的簽證政策,
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of more than 25 countries,
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and we found that with the exception
of the US and China,
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我們發現,除了美國和中國,
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all the other countries actually give
a pretty direct path to entry for work.
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所有其他國家都有非常直接
可以入境工作的管道,
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If you have a bachelor's degree,
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只要你有學士學位,
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have a job offer
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有人聘請,
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and make just a little bit more
than the average salary in the country.
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且薪資比全國平均值高一些些。
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All of these conditions
can be quite easily fulfilled
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所有這些條件都很容易達成,
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by recent university graduates
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對只有兩、三年工作經驗剛從
大學畢業的新鮮人而言並不難。
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with just two or three years
of work experience.
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So the visa process,
could it be fast and easier at times?
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所以簽證流程有時可以
很快速且更容易嗎?
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Absolutely, yes.
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當然是的。
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But is it the show stopper
that keeps talent and opportunity
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但它是阻礙人才和機會
彼此接觸的原因嗎?
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away from each other?
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Clearly not.
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顯然不是。
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So what is it then, if it's not a visa
issue caused by government bureaucrats?
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如果不是政府繁文縟節造成的
簽證問題,那是什麼因原?
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In my view,
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依我所見,
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the issue lies in the world
of business and within all of us.
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問題在商業世界
以及我們所有人裡面。
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And that's actually the good news
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那其實是好消息,
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because it means
that we can all change it.
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因為那表示我們都能改變它。
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Changing it starts with senior executives
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要改變它,要從資深主管開始,
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because like any other business priority,
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因為如同其他商業上的優先事項,
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it must come from the top
or it ain't going to happen.
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必須要由上頭下指示,
不然就不會發生。
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Let's take a look at Rakuten, for example.
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讓我們來看看「樂天」的例子。
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Rakuten is a Japanese e-commerce company
that by now has expanded globally.
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樂天是間日本電子商務公司,
現在已經擴展到全球。
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But in 2010, the company
was totally lost in translation,
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但在 2010 年時,
該公司完全敗在翻譯,
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translating documents across English
and Japanese and back on a daily basis,
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每天都要把文件英翻日、日翻英。
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losing days of work,
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浪費許多工作日,
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and also making it pretty hard
for global talent to join the company.
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也讓全球人才很難進入該公司。
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So the founder and CEO, Mickey Mikitani,
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所以其創辦人及社長三木谷浩史
站出來並下了一道指令。
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he stepped up and issued a decree.
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He basically said, from today on,
all meetings, presentations,
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他說,從今天起,
所有會議、簡報,
一直到食堂的菜單,
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down to the canteen menus,
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they must be in English.
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都要用英文。
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Sounds easy? Is not.
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聽起來很容易?並不容易。
06:00
So for the next few weeks,
absolute chaos ensued.
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接下來的幾週,混亂接踵而來。
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And for sure, you can imagine
it was a pretty stressful transition
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各位可以想像,對於許多
非英語母語的主管,
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for many executives not home in English
as their first language.
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這轉變的壓力很大。
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But over time, the decision paid off
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但隨時間,這個決策有了報償,
06:12
and the company turned from
a formalistic, hierarchical one
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這間公司從非常形式主義、
階級分明的公司轉變成
更扁平、更分權式的公司。
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into one that is much flatter
and more decentralized.
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And if you visit their offices today,
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若你現在去拜訪他們的
辦公室,會看到的員工
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you will see people that migrated to Japan
from places like Bulgaria, France,
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包含從各地移民到日本的人,
如保加利亞、法國、德國、
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Germany, India, Indonesia and elsewhere.
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印度、印尼與其他國家。
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And since then, the company
has expanded into 30 countries
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從那之後,該公司
就擴展到三十個國家,
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and is seen as the poster child
of a modern, digital and global Japan.
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且被視為是現代化、數位化、
全球化日本的模範。
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Once senior executives are on board,
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一旦搞定了資深主管,
下一步就是人力資源團隊。
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human resource teams are next.
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06:41
In the past, these HR teams,
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在過去,這些人力資源團隊,
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they could afford to basically just write
a local language job description
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他們基本上可以只要撰寫
當地語言的工作內容描述,
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and hire from a talent pool
largely 50 miles around the headquarters.
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向總部方圓五十英里
範圍的人才庫徵才。
06:52
Today, not so much.
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如今情況不同了,
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And leading HR teams, for many positions,
they actively hire globally.
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針對許多職缺,領頭的人力資源
團隊必須積極招募全球人才。
06:59
Let's take a look at Douglas.
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讓我們來看看「Douglas」。
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Douglas is Europe's
number one beauty retailer
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Douglas 是歐洲
第一大的美妝零售通路,
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with more than 1,800 stores
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在超過十五個國家
擁有超過一千八百家店。
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across more than 15 countries.
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Yet in the pandemic,
they had to close many stores
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但在疫情期間他們被迫關掉許多
店面,很辛苦地轉向電子商務。
07:10
and they made a hard turn
towards e-commerce.
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And they knew that in order to do that,
they had to dial up their tech teams.
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他們知道,為了實現這一點,
他們必須強化他們的技術團隊。
07:17
Yet, they really couldn't find
the tech talent here at home in Germany.
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但,他們在自家德國
找不到技術人才。
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So to fix that, they did two things.
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他們做了兩件事來解決。
07:23
One, they introduced a fully remote
digital hiring process
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第一,他們採用了一種
全遠端的數位聘僱流程,
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complete with hard
and soft skill assessments,
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搭配硬技能和軟技能的評估,
07:30
and they also launched
a new hiring campaign
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他們也推出新的招聘活動,
叫做「美麗背後的程式碼」,
07:32
called "The Code Behind the Beauty"
in order to attract a more global,
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旨在吸引全球各地
更多樣性的人來應徵。
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diverse set of applicants.
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07:39
Since then, they've hired a QA tester
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之後,他們便從我們的
「想像」人才庫
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and product managers
from our Imagine pool,
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僱用了品質保證測試員和產品經理,
07:44
and they’re also broadly hiring
more globally and hire developers
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他們也更廣泛向全球各地徵才,
聘僱開發人員和其他人員,
07:47
and for other roles
completely internationally.
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完全都用國際人才。
07:50
And as a result they managed something
pretty rare for an offline retailer,
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結果是,他們想辦法做到一件
實體零售商很少能做到的事:
07:55
and that is translating
their offline strength
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那就是將他們的實體通路長處轉換
07:58
into true online growth potential.
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成為真正的線上成長潛力。
08:00
And the cherry on top?
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錦上添花的呢?
08:02
Doing all of that by following the latest
and freshest HR best practices
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做到所有上述的事,靠的是遵循
最新、最鮮的人力資源最佳做法,
08:06
that benefit not just foreign workers,
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這些做法不僅讓外國員工受益,
08:08
but all of their talent base.
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他們的所有人才也都有受益。
08:11
Finally, let's look at you and me
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最後,來看看你、我
08:13
and all of us who don't work in HR teams
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以及所有不屬於人力資源團隊
08:16
and don't lead global companies just yet.
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也還沒有領導全球企業的人。
08:19
So the next time you're hiring
for one of your teams,
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所以下次你在為你的團隊找人時,
08:21
ask your HR colleagues to maybe also
shortlist a couple of global candidates
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請人力資源的同事,或許將幾位全球
候選人也納入最後挑選名單中,
08:26
and when you interview them,
be ready to be surprised.
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當你和他們面談時,
準備好被他們給驚艷到。
08:29
A couple of months ago,
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幾個月前,我和一群女開發者交談,
08:30
I spoke to a group of female
developers from Afghanistan
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她們來自阿富汗,到國外尋求職涯。
08:33
seeking a career abroad.
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08:35
And yet, despite the unimaginable
horrors of their daily lives
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但,儘管她們的日常生活
充滿無法想像的恐怖,
08:38
and the injustice that they're facing,
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還得要面對不公,
08:41
they actually brought a degree
of positive focus and skill and creativity
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她們卻能把一種積極的
專注、技能和創造力
08:46
to the conversations
I could only deeply admire.
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帶入談話當中,讓我深感欽佩。
08:49
Yet, frankly, in other circumstances,
it turned out differently.
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坦白說,在其他
情況下結果就很不一樣。
08:53
And people were clearly not mentally
or culturally ready for a life abroad.
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這些人很顯然在心理上或文化上
還沒有準備好接受國外的生活。
08:57
Over time, I personally learned
to check my own biases at the door,
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隨時間,我個人學會了
先檢查我自己的偏見,
09:01
and I'm still working on it.
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我還在努力中。
09:03
But let me give you an example.
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但讓我舉個例,當有人寫信給我時
稱我為「尊鑒 」或「博士」,
09:05
When people address me by email,
as "esteemed sir" or "doctor,"
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09:09
I don't immediately cringe or think
that they might not be culturally ready.
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我不會馬上畏縮或認為他們可能
在文化上還沒準備好,不會,
09:12
No, I learned over time that they only
mean it as a sign of respect.
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時間久了我便了解到,他們
只是想表達尊重之意。
09:17
Yet, let's face it,
the culture gap is real
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但,讓我們面對現實,
文化差異真的存在,
09:19
and it can always help to get
some culture coaching.
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而尋求文化指導向來都會有所幫助。
09:23
In fact, I'm a culture coach myself,
sometimes in my own family.
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事實上,我本身就是文化指導教練,
有時在我家也得扮演這個角色。
幾年前,我的兄弟強納森
09:28
So a couple of years ago,
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09:29
my brother Jonathan was applying
for a job in the US
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打算要應徵美國的
一個研究科學家職缺。
09:32
as a research scientist,
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09:33
and initially he was struggling
just a little bit.
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一開始,他有點困擾,
09:36
So I took a look at his emails
and I could tell he was writing them
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於是我讀了他的
電子郵件,我看得出來,
他是用德國心態在寫信。
09:40
from a very German mindset.
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09:41
Let me give you an example.
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讓我舉個例子。
他會這樣寫:「親愛的史密斯博士,
09:43
He wrote something like, "Dear Dr. Smith,
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09:46
I am writing to you in relation
to my previous letter from April 22.
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我寫信給你是想談我先前
在四月二十二日寫的那封信,
09:50
I haven't heard a reply from you since."
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從那之後你就沒有回覆我。」
09:54
True story.
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真實故事。
09:55
It's not just too formal,
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它不只是太正式,
09:57
it's borderline rude
by American standards,
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用美國標準來看有點接近無禮,
10:00
even though in Germany, believe it or not,
you still might get away with it.
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雖然,在德國,
信不信由你,你可能
仍然可以僥倖過關。
10:06
So I told him to rewrite his emails
in a more global standard.
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所以我請他把信寫得
更符合全球標準,類似:
10:09
Something like "Dear John,
I hope you had a great weekend.
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「親愛的約翰,希望
你週末過得很愉快。
10:13
I'm following up on my blah blah blah."
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我正在追蹤我先前的點點點點。」
10:16
You get the message.
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你懂我的意思。
10:18
And with that, and because
it’s great, he got the job.
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這麼做之後,且因為寫得很好,
他應徵上了。
10:22
And what's so unique about this
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這個例子的獨特之處在於
他並不需要學習新技能,
10:24
is he did not have to learn
a new skill, spending years on it.
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那要花上數年,
他只是需要有人點出他在表達自己時
10:29
All that it took was somebody
pointing out to him
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10:31
the small but significant changes
in the way he presented himself.
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需要做哪些微小但重要的改變。
10:35
And now, after a couple of years,
he's a great culture coach himself.
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幾年之後的現在,
他自己也成了很棒的文化指導教練。
10:40
And in fact, I think that is something
we can all aspire to.
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事實上,我認為那是
我們都能追求的目標。
10:44
Because migration is indeed one
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因為移民確實是我們人生中
一個重大的機遇。
10:46
of the great possibilities
of our lifetimes.
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10:49
One that we can all contribute to
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我們都能有所貢獻的機遇,
10:52
and one that clearly has in business
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且在商業領域中,這種機遇
顯然有所謂的「先行者優勢」。
10:55
so-called "first mover advantage."
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10:58
And that's why I predict that companies
who embrace the most global,
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那就是為什麼我預測,如果企業
能夠擁抱史上最全球化、
教育程度最高的世代,
11:03
most educated generation ever,
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11:05
they will win in the marketplace,
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這些企業就能在市場上勝出,
11:07
while others who still stand
on the sidelines, they won't.
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只是旁觀的那些企業,則無法。
11:11
I call that global talent advantage,
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我稱之為全球人才優勢,
11:14
and it applies as much to companies
as it does to entire countries.
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它不僅適用在企業上,
也適用在整個國家上。
11:19
I think it's time
that we change perspective
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我認為現在該是我們
改變觀點的時候了,
11:22
and see migrants
not as a threat or as a burden,
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不要再把移民視為威脅或負擔,
11:25
but as an opportunity.
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把他們視為機會,
11:27
An opportunity to build more vibrant
and innovative nations,
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讓國家變得更有
活力和創新力的機會,
11:31
and also an opportunity
to do our little share
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也是讓我們盡自己一份
小小心力,為全人類讓世界
11:34
to make the world a better place for all.
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變得更好的機會。
11:37
Thank you.
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謝謝。
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