How to Realistically Decarbonize the Oil and Gas Industry | Bjørn Otto Sverdrup | TED Countdown

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How to Realistically Decarbonize the Oil and Gas Industry | Bjørn Otto Sverdrup | TED Countdown

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I'm an identical twin.
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This is a picture of me and my twin brother,
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running a 60-meters race, five years old.
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(Laughter)
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I can't tell who's who.
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My mom can still not tell the difference either.
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Also, at the time, I didn't know that the air we were breathing
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when we were running
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had a concentration of 320 particles per million.
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Today, that is 410.
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Scarily close to the 430 threshold
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scientists are telling us we need to stay below
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in order to keep below 1.5 degrees warming.
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This change has happened in my lifetime,
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in our lifetimes.
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A big part of the challenge is the energy system.
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Actually two thirds of the energy system are coming from fossil fuels.
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So basically we cannot fix climate without fixing the energy system.
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And the one industry that needs to make the biggest change
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is the oil and gas industry.
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Many are blaming the oil and gas industry,
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giving up on it ever changing,
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being very impatient to see change.
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I can understand that impatience.
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I am impatient too.
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But I still believe that we are better off not ignoring this industry.
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Let's instead try to turn it into --
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to help drive the change we need to see.
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Let me tell you why.
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I lead an organization that's called
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Oil and Gas Climate Initiative, OGCI.
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It brings together 12 of the largest companies in the world,
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and their CEOs.
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The members, household names,
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are actually producing, every day,
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nearly 30 percent of the world's oil and gas production.
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Even if some of you would like these companies to just disappear,
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what they are doing matters to all of us every day.
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Changing the energy system is going to be hard.
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We need to turn from an 80 percent fossil-fuel-based system
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to a completely zero-emission system.
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That would require massive investments,
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radical policy shift and us changing behavior.
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We need to balance that transition with the needs of nature, fairness
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and also to avoid shortage of energy
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and economic dislocations.
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And time is very limited.
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So it's very hard to just comprehend the scale of the change.
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But change, we must.
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A handful of companies cannot take on that challenge alone.
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But we can do more than most.
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So let me offer you one framework
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of what I believe we can do
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and why it matters.
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I call that the 1/4/20 challenge.
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That is, one gigaton,
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four gigatons and 20 gigatons of CO2.
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Have in mind, the entire CO2 emission system is 55 gigatons.
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Thirty-three related to energy,
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13 of those coal.
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And we know what needs to happen to the coal.
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So the 20 is the sum of the emissions from the oil and gas.
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Let's start with the one.
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So when the oil and gas,
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the members of the organization OGCI, are producing oil and gas,
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they are having emissions,
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mainly from compressors and turbines.
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So they use energy to provide energy, right?
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The scope 1 emissions.
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So the first challenge is to bring those emissions to zero.
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A few weeks ago, the CEOs came together
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and for the first time signed up on the shared ambition
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to bring all their own emissions to net-zero
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within the time frame set by the Paris Agreement.
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They also promised to leverage their influence
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to achieve the same in all the fields where they’re a non-operator.
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They have never done that before.
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And to me, that was a significant step.
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How are we going to do that?
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Eliminating methane emissions, slashing flaring,
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electrifying operations.
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In a bit longer, distant future,
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we will need to use hydrogen in our own operations,
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carbon capture and storage and other solutions.
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Each of the companies will have different ways
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of fulfilling their net-zero ambition.
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You might say it doesn't matter or it's not enough,
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but daring to say "net-zero" changes minds.
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It shifts your mindset from one of defensive to proactive.
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From incremental change to having your eyes on the end goal.
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I've seen this happen in my own company
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called Equinor, of Norway.
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A few years ago, we decided to strive for net-zero.
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You know what happened?
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Deep changes in attitudes and behavior of all of the employees started to unfold,
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not only among the top management.
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Thousands of engineers started to look at new solutions
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had looked at them differently.
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Renewables started to become interesting,
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investment plans changed,
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cash started to flow differently.
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Now, one gigaton is only a part of the challenge,
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but it's quite big.
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To put it into perspective,
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it's the combined emissions of all airplanes in the world worldwide.
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So let's try to make that happen.
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The four-gigaton challenge.
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That is the prize
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if we're able to get all of the oil and gas companies in the world
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to accept the same membership.
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All the national oil companies,
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all the smaller companies.
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Four gigaton.
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I'm going to repeat that number,
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four billion tons of CO2 each year.
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That is equal to seven percent of the world's total emissions.
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A price that is so big that we cannot ignore it.
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How can we do that?
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We believe that we can lead the way
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by helping to set ambitions, setting targets,
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and also to help countries to identify where the problem [is].
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We have set targets,
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we have all sorts of shorter-term targets towards 2025,
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for our own performance,
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but we also are setting targets that can inspire the industry.
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Recently, we also acquired satellite services
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to help countries better monitor their methane leaks, for instance,
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a very big part of the challenge.
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The good thing with this industry,
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we know how to solve the problems.
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But we also know that an enabling policy environment
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will accelerate the change.
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Particularly important thing is a price on carbon.
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In some countries, 50 dollars per ton will drive change.
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In my own country, Norway,
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the plan now is to increase that to nearly 200 dollars by 2030.
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That is driving change.
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Now, the one- and the four-gigaton challenge
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is both about improving the existing energy system.
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What we need to do is, of course, to also build a future energy system.
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New solutions.
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The 20-gigaton challenge, as I call it, is a very different challenge.
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It's a truly collective one.
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Supply needs to change
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as does demand.
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And we need to find a way of doing that
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as quickly as possible and as orderly as possible.
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The oil and gas industry can, of course, decarbonize quicker themselves,
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but they can also help others achieve their decarbonization efforts.
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And inside industry, a transformation is underway.
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Not complete,
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but I dare say underway.
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Oil and gas companies are starting to see themselves
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as energy companies and act like it.
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Renewables is becoming the fastest growth area.
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For Equinor, my company, for instance,
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the biggest new project is not another oil and gas platform.
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It’s actually an offshore wind farm development in the North Sea:
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a ten-billion-dollar investment
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with the capability to power 4.5 million homes in the UK.
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Further up north in the UK,
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Shell, BP and other companies
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are involved in developing carbon-capture and storage industry
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that will help cement, steel, and other industries
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meet their climate efforts.
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This used to be future music, but now it is happening.
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Seven of those projects are underway.
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We believe they can be materialized by 2025.
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More than 25 other projects are ongoing.
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Similarly, in hydrogen, synthetic fuels, biofuels,
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quite a lot of things are happening.
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For me to unlock the potential, the scale, the capacity,
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the competence of this industry,
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to put it to work,
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to drive the broad transformation of society that we really need
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is what motivates me.
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To speed it up, not to slow it down.
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Then we need to act and use our voice
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in accordance with the spirit and the consistency
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of the Paris Agreement.
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This is what inspires me.
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And I know, of course, believing is important,
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but at the end of the day,
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we will be judged by how we are actually delivering
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on the 1/4/20-gigaton challenge.
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The race is on.
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Thanks.
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(Applause)
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Lindsay Levin: Come back.
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Bjørn Otto, thank you.
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Thank you very much for that.
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Thank you very much for that, and help us square the circle here.
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Because in the meantime,
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so many of these companies continue to push for new exploration.
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How do we make sense of that with the story that you've just shared?
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BOS: This is a very important question,
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so should you continue to explore, should you continue to produce,
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what should you do with that?
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And I think if you just look at the numbers,
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actually the world total exploration for new oil and gas
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has dropped nearly 55 percent over the last years.
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It's in the lowest level in 16 years, so I think things are changing.
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Some companies are already guiding that they'll plan to reduce production.
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I think all of the companies are recognizing
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that if we're going to meet the ambitions of the Paris Agreement
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or to, you know, have a habitable climate,
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oil needs to decline, right?
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So the question of timing.
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So how do you balance that?
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You cannot really stop delivering a product
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that society isn't ready to not use anymore.
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So I think if we would really like
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to accelerate a decline in production of oil and gas,
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shift the demand, right?
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So make sure that we see lasting changes
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in much more use of electric cars,
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much more investments in renewables, etc.
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LL: And at the same time, of course,
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these same companies are lobbying against a lot of that change.
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So, you know, known for disinformation and misinformation,
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could you just speak to us a little bit about transparency?
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How do we build trust given that history and given the ongoing lobbying?
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BOS: Yeah.
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You know, I cannot take, you know, the blame for all the wrongdoings --
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LL: I'm not blaming you, I'm asking.
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BOS: Or you know, the pride for all the fantastic things that's been doing.
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But you know what I can say, if you're looking ahead,
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I believe that this industry needs to be much more transparent in the future.
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LL: OK.
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BOS: I think part of that transparency is both around carbon performance,
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disclosure investments,
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but also much more open around how they're using their voice
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and how they're participating in the debates in society.
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Personally, I think it's --
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you've seen some of the reports coming out
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where you're screening membership associations,
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I believe that’s a useful step.
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And I think we should expect
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and require more transparency from both this industry
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and other industries in this transition.
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LL: Thank you, thank you.
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BOS: Thank you.
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(Applause)
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