A New Social Contract for Global Climate Justice | Huma Yusuf | TED

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One third of my country, Pakistan, is under water.
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An exceptional monsoon coupled with flash flooding
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due to the accelerated melting of the Himalayan glaciers
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has led to devastating flooding.
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Floods so destructive, so all-consuming,
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that the adjective most frequently used to describe them is “biblical.”
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The area of land that is underwater is larger than Britain.
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Over 33 million people are affected, stripped of homes and livelihoods.
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Hundreds have been killed,
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and those that survived are now dying of malaria,
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dengue fever, diarrhea.
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The crops that we planted have been washed away,
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and our fields will be waterlogged for many months to come,
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imperiling the critical wheat-planting season.
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Pakistan is in shock,
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and all it can look ahead to is food insecurity, famine,
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climate migration and conflict.
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Pakistan needs tens of billions in emergency relief funds,
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and it needs them right now.
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But I'm not here to talk about today's crisis.
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I'm here to talk about the way forward.
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As the scale of devastation becomes apparent,
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the sense of climate injustice is mounting.
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Pakistan emits less than one percent of global greenhouse gases,
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and yet it is consistently among the countries
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most vulnerable to disasters caused by climate change.
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That vulnerability has been horrifyingly laid bare
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over the last few months.
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Calls are growing for the global North to compensate the global South
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for the fact that high-emitting activities in developed economies
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are leading to catastrophic climate change-linked events
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in less developed countries.
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Since the Industrial Revolution,
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today's wealthy nations have benefited economically
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from high-emitting activities.
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The G20 are still responsible
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for 80 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions.
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The logic is simple:
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industrialized nations that have profited from fossil-fuel-driven development
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should be the ones to pay the bill
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when climate disasters strike poor countries such as mine.
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This idea is not new,
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nor is it particularly controversial.
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In 2009,
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developed countries promised to mobilize billions in climate finance
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to support emerging economies.
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That funding has not materialized.
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And so the demands for reparations have.
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But let's be clear.
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Developing countries are not asking for charity.
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Having polluted only marginally,
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they are climate creditors, and that credit is now due.
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As I said, the logic is simple.
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But the politics are complicated.
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Developing countries have not consistently demanded reparations
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for climate change-linked loss and damage.
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Many countries in the Global South, led by India and China,
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subscribe to the “catch up” argument:
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the notion that developing countries
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should now be allowed their share of pollutants and greenhouse gases
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in order to build infrastructure
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and spur economic growth.
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This reasoning envisions the West curtailing emissions
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and bearing the financial cost of the economic slowdown,
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while developing countries continue to emit,
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build and grow.
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It's a way of saying, "Hey, it's our turn."
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This "catch up" argument is compelling,
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but it does not speak the language of reparations.
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Climate justice is based on the notion of not being punished
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for someone else's bad behavior.
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It does not sanction more bad behavior.
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You cannot both demand reparations and the right to emit.
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But many developing countries have yet to engage in climate diplomacy,
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a process of reconciling the demand for reparations with existing security
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and foreign policies.
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And so you'll see cases where some government departments
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are demanding climate justice,
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while others are seeking foreign funding for coal and gas projects
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or pursuing defense deals with high-emitting nations.
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It is difficult to have it both ways.
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And that's why demanding reparations
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also means bringing forward a clean, green vision --
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one which includes leapfrogging
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the high emitting stage of economic development
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into a more sustainable future.
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For countries like mine,
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that means no more poorly planned expressways
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or elite real estate developments dotted with swimming pools
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or golf courses in drought-hit areas.
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Because sadly, it is true
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that the scale of devastation in Pakistan,
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and in climate calamities elsewhere,
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is not just the result of climate change
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but also a consequence of poor governance,
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of inadequate planning,
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the lack of infrastructure, corruption and the lack of accountability.
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This is something the Global South must acknowledge.
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But this is absolutely not to place the onus back
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on climate vulnerable developing countries.
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No.
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Instead, it is to say that the time has come
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for the global North and South to agree [on] the terms of a just transition.
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Are we ready for a new social contract within countries and between countries?
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One way forward
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is to adopt a more expansive definition of reparations.
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This should take the form of funding for emergency relief, loss and damage,
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but it should also include technical assistance,
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adaptation planning
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and the skills development needed to tackle the climate challenge.
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Developed countries should provide funding,
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but they should also provide access to the green technologies
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that can help countries such as Pakistan catch up,
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but without the high emissions.
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Pakistan is drowning,
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and its people are desperate.
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Their present is your future.
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We need a new era of climate diplomacy,
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and we need a new recognition that we are in this together.
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We can adapt, mitigate, build resilience,
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but only if we do it together.
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The logic of climate justice is simple.
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Let's make the politics simpler to.
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Thank you.
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(Applause and cheers)
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Bruno Giussani: Huma, thank you.
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So when introduced you, I said
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that the floods have not received enough attention in the global media.
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But how are the Pakistani media talking and reporting about them?
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Huma Yusuf: Thank you for that question.
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You know, we’re just a month into the declaration of a national emergency,
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and the floods are already slipping out of the news headlines in Pakistan.
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I think we're really suffering from the fact
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that the 24-hour news cycle does not know how to tell this story,
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a story so big,
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a story that requires you to connect the dots
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to every other story you will ever tell,
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whether we're talking about food,
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the economy, insecurity, domestic militancy.
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There is no story that can be told without also telling this story.
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But unfortunately, I don’t think we have that media literacy,
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and the floods are already receding out of our own headlines.
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So what can we expect from the international press?
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BG: Well, is aid already coming, at least?
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HY: Aid is coming, but not enough and not fast enough.
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And, you know, Pakistan has said that they need about 30 billion dollars
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to help with the rehabilitation and reconstruction phase.
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And we're at a stage where, for example,
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I think the UN tomorrow launches a new appeal
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that's for 600 million dollars.
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So I don’t think that there will ever be enough aid.
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We do need some of these reparations.
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We need a better plan
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for how we're going to fund these kinds of climate disasters.
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But unfortunately, even before the money has started flowing,
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those questions have started.
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You know, where's the money that's already come through gone?
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Who is tracking it? What is it being spent on?
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And I fear that those kinds of questions deter more funding,
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when actually it's the absolute need of the hour.
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BG: Now, I want just to put an image in the mind of people here.
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One of our conversations,
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you told me a story about people in flooded areas
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going around in small boats and hitting structures under water.
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Tell us about that.
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HY: Yes, you saw the pictures that I started with.
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And I’ve been seeing those, and I haven’t visited myself
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the most badly affected areas.
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And it was only when I received a video from a friend of mine
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who was out there reporting in the field,
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which showed her on a boat going through what I thought was a lake,
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and then they start bumping up against things --
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and you realize that it’s the top of electricity pylons,
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and it's the top of school buildings
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and it's the top of petrol stations
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with the little, you know, advertising symbol --
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that I really understood that my country is submerged.
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It is truly underwater.
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And I don't know how you come back from that.
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BG: Thank you for sharing this story and thank you for your talk.
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HY: Thank you for having me.
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(Applause)
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