The Billion-Dollar Pollution Solution Humanity Needs Right Now | Stacy Kauk | TED

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The Billion-Dollar Pollution Solution Humanity Needs Right Now | Stacy Kauk | TED

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How much money do we need
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in order to remove a significant amount of carbon dioxide
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out of our atmosphere?
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And what are the mechanisms that we should use
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to spend all of that money?
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I'm the head of sustainability at Shopify,
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a company you may not know but you might interact with every day
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because our technology powers millions of online retailers.
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In 2019,
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we wanted to become a carbon-neutral company
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and be accountable for all of our historical emissions.
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Instead of buying typical, traditional carbon offsets
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that simply pay someone else
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to not pollute as much as we already had,
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we actually wanted to delete our emissions.
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It quickly became obvious that carbon removal,
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those solutions that pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere
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and store it safely,
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were very expensive and in short supply.
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So to kick-start this almost non-existent market,
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we launched our sustainability fund
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and committed to spend a minimum of five million dollars every year
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on the most promising solutions.
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Now, obviously we need deep emissions reductions,
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I'm not disputing that.
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But alongside this,
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we also need to build the world's capacity
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to pull ten gigatons of carbon dioxide out of the sky,
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every year, by 2050.
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Now, at the time, five million was a big number,
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and it was a really big number to spend on something in its infancy.
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And we thought we were doing something significant.
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But then we totally hit a wall.
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We weren't even thinking at the right scale.
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We need to build massive facilities
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capable of pulling one million tons of carbon dioxide out of the air
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every year,
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and we need thousands of them.
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And in order to do that,
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we need project financing of about one billion dollars per plant.
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Now, to put that into perspective,
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our five-million-dollar annual budget
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would probably buy about 10,000 tons of carbon removal every year.
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That's tiny.
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That's only one percent of the annual capacity
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of the size of the facilities we need.
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And like I said,
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we need thousands of them.
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So we've learned that in order to move the dial on climate
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and to build the necessary infrastructure,
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we need more money,
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way more money.
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And in order to do that,
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we need collaborations
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and we need structures that leverage the significant power of capital
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to create even bigger effects.
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So now I'd like to tell you about what we did next.
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It's a mechanism that we launched alongside four other companies.
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It's an AMC.
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AMC stands for Advance Market Commitment,
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and this one’s designed to help guarantee a future market
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for carbon removal by trying to de-risk the R and D investment
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and capital expenditures needed to scale carbon removal
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and grow that industry.
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Now, why I think this is such a promising approach
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is because it's not new.
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AMCs have been used in the past in the health care sector
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to encourage and accelerate the development of vaccines.
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It worked by essentially guaranteeing
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the economic viability of production by setting a price in advance.
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This meant that companies could justify the R and D resources
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needed to develop the vaccine
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as well as the costs associated with bringing it to market.
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They just needed to know that someone was going to buy their product
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at a set price.
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So this AMC borrows the idea
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of a purchase guarantee
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to try to accelerate the development
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and scaling of carbon removal.
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And to do that, we set up a fund,
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and it's a pretty big fund.
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It’s nearly one billion dollars,
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and it's called Frontier.
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But Frontier has to overcome some significant differences
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between vaccine development and carbon removal.
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First, vaccine development has been done for a long time
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and we've largely worked out the supply chain
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and infrastructure challenges,
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the operational issues and the policy definitions.
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But for carbon removal,
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this is essentially still a new industry that faces all of these hurdles.
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For example,
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a lot of carbon removal technologies rely on clean power to operate
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because if they don't,
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they'll emit more carbon dioxide than they capture.
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But clean power does not exist today at the scale and distribution we need.
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Second, vaccines are developed by established companies
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with deep R and D teams and experience.
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Whereas today,
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carbon removal largely exists on paper, in the lab or at the start-up stage,
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there’s only a handful of companies worldwide right now
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that are any further along.
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Third, the manufacturing facilities for vaccines already exist at scale.
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But for carbon removal,
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the largest facility in operation today
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is Climeworks’s as Orca plant in Iceland.
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It has an annual capacity of 4,000 tonnes,
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which is orders of magnitude less than what we need.
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This means that today there's no company or facility in operation
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that can respond to the demand signal of Frontier.
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So to summarize,
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for vaccine development,
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all these companies needed as an incentive was a dollar sign.
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They had everything they needed to jump into action and respond.
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But today, carbon removal needs so much more.
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Even though there's a lot of different ways to approach this,
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I do believe that this is a significant market signal
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that Shopify, alongside Stripe, Alphabet, Meta and McKinsey Sustainability
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have committed to buying nearly one billion dollars combined
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of the product.
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But the carbon removal ecosystem is underdeveloped.
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Even though Frontier is essentially helping to underwrite
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all of the broad investment needed to scale carbon removal,
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this is an imperfect application
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of the advance market commitment mechanism
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because the carbon removal ecosystem is underdeveloped.
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However,
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however, this is exactly what we need to do
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to supercharge progress by accelerating innovation.
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It is so important to take chances and to experiment.
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And as buyers of carbon removal,
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we have an opportunity to stand up
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and do our part to build for the future,
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and this commitment does just that.
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So now we have Frontier,
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which is the demand pull by providing capital and resources
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through the advanced market commitment mechanism.
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But what about the other side of the equation?
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We also need a supply push.
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To start,
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in addition to all of the new climate companies being launched,
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we also need companies from existing industries with transferable skills
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to jump in and start developing carbon removal.
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I'm talking about --
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now, don't get mad --
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I'm talking about industries like oil and gas,
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mining, manufacturing,
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infrastructure and electricity,
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who all have deep experience building huge projects.
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That's the massive scale that we need
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that I was talking about at the beginning.
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Alongside this,
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we also need to build a robust management system
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to ensure that all of these new carbon-removal solutions
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are in fact capturing more carbon dioxide than they emit.
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This is kind of along the lines of the quality assurance,
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quality control and process trials we rely on
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to ensure that our vaccines are safe
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and that they work.
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But most importantly,
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we need more practice doing the actual thing
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rather than trying to get it perfect on paper.
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If we don't try, we can't learn,
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and if we don't learn, we cannot iterate and improve.
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This AMC is technology-neutral.
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Frontier sends out the demand signal,
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but we do not specify which technology should be used to meet it.
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But what we do specify is the quality standard we expect
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in order to ensure
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that real, permanent carbon removal took place
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at the agreed-upon price.
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Now this arrangement, we’re hoping,
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should encourage experimentation and tight iteration cycles
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that should quickly separate the promising solutions
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from all of the distractions.
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Now, I’d like to ground this in reality by providing three solid examples
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of companies who are already on their way
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and some of them are actually doing the thing.
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First, we have Climeworks, operating in Iceland.
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They use direct air capture machines to filter carbon dioxide out of the air
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and capture it for storage.
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And they've now since broken ground on their next-scale facility,
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which should be able to pull 36,000 tons of CO2 out of the air.
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Next, we have Running Tide,
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who sink kelp deep into the open ocean to lock away carbon dioxide
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that's been captured through photosynthesis.
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They’re currently working through their first-scale deployment,
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and they're building all of the measurement,
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quantification and monitoring systems
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at the same time.
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And third, we have Heirloom, who plan to accelerate
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the natural capacity of limestone
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to react with and capture carbon dioxide
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and lock it away.
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And now they plan to do this
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by accelerating the natural absorption rates of the rock
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from approximately a year to just days.
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They're set to break ground on their first commercial-scale facility
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in the United States in 2023.
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Now, there are many other companies
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that are starting to emerge that I could have mentioned here.
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However, from these three examples,
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what you can see is the diversity of solutions.
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And we're agnostic about that.
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All that matters is that they achieve the results within the set parameters.
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Now, before I end,
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I must address the question of our own operations.
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So to start,
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Shopify is a carbon-neutral company,
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and we've committed to kick-starting the carbon-removal market.
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Our business is all about helping millions of entrepreneurs succeed.
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And today, they're experiencing so many challenges.
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We have an opportunity to help them become carbon-neutral
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and to leverage carbon removal
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in order to future-proof their businesses,
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which in turn safeguards ours.
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Now, not a lot of them have climate teams.
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But we have the opportunity to share our experience and expertise with them.
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And so what we're trying to do
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is take everything we've learned
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about reducing and managing Shopify's emissions
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and from vetting and buying high-quality carbon removal,
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and we’re trying to take those lessons
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and put them out on our platform
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to make them available for all of our merchants.
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Not only will this help reduce emissions,
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but this will also help create
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the very market that all of these new carbon-removal companies
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who are building in response to Frontier's demand signal will rely on.
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This is a feedback loop that will spur innovation
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and drive the development of carbon removal
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at the scale the world needs.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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