The Tech We Need to Fight Workplace Ageism | Piyachart Phiromswad | TED

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So by the year 2050,
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there are going to be more than two billion people
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who are older than 60 years old,
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and it has been estimated that around 80 percent
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of these two billion people
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will live in low- and middle-income countries,
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which is roughly the developing countries.
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It is currently a common belief, globally,
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that senior citizens should not work,
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do not need to work,
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and therefore, there is no reason for companies to create jobs for them.
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I think this kind of thinking,
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the thinking that senior employment is inessential,
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is actually the seed of a major problem that could impact a lot of lives,
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especially the lives of people in developing countries.
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To explain to you why, let me show you a diagram,
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and let me call this diagram a negative aging spiral.
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Imagine a 50-year-old living in a developing country.
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The chance that this person will work later on will be slim,
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so this person is not going to invest in their skill,
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might not even invest in their health,
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because there's no return from this investment.
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Then, at the age of 60,
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this person is going to stop working,
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because it's a common thing to do in these countries.
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And then after that, many bad things could happen.
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For example, this person might not have enough savings,
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or maybe no savings at all,
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and now there’s no more employment opportunity.
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This person might feel lost, feel hopeless, feel lonely.
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This person might even feel
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like there's no purpose to continue living.
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So it seems like, for many people in developing countries,
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there's going to be suffering through the process of population aging.
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Is there anything we can do differently?
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For me, as an economist
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who has been working on this topic of population aging,
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especially in the context of developing countries,
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for many years,
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I have been puzzled by these questions,
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but I think I've got an answer.
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I think the best catalyst that we can use to break the negative aging spiral
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and unlock the power of population aging
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is to create something called senior employment technologies
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and use it to democratize senior employment.
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What is senior employment technology?
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It is a technology that can be used to reduce or remove
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physical and cognitive barriers for work for senior citizens.
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Like people wearing glasses today,
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which we use to erase or remove our vision problem,
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senior employment technology
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is something that we can use to transform senior employment
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from scarcity to abundance.
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But unfortunately,
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this aspect of technology has been overlooked
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by a lot of people.
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When we actually think about it,
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senior living assistive technologies are quite common,
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but not so much in terms of senior employment technologies.
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And in the context of, for example, developed countries,
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these technologies do exist to some extent,
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but in the context of developing countries,
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these technologies are largely nonexistent.
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So if we could create senior employment technologies
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and use our imagination to think about what it could be,
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what would it look like?
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Let me give you guys a couple of examples.
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The first group of senior employment technologies
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is something that can be called physical augmentation technologies.
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There are two types of physical barriers to work.
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The first one is physical barriers at work.
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So as we age, we tend to lose some of our physical abilities.
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For example, we lose our muscle strength,
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we might lose our hand and finger dexterity.
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Now, let's imagine the possibility
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we could create cheap and accessible exoskeleton technologies,
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which is a suit that a senior citizen could wear,
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and this suit can be used to augment, for example, trunk muscles,
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and the senior citizen can actually use it to lift something heavy,
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but it doesn't feel that heavy.
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Now, if we actually think about it,
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this aspect of technologies could be pretty important
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in the context of developing countries,
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because a lot of people in developing countries
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actually use their body or their labor, a lot, for work.
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Next, let’s imagine the possibility we could create
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cheap and accessible collaborative robots, or "cobots" in short,
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which is often in the form of robot arms,
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and these robot arms can be used as an extra steady hand
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that a senior citizen could use to recover their hand and finger dexterity,
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especially for work that requires precision.
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One interesting use case for this
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could be ... senior surgeons in developing countries.
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We can all agree that we wouldn't want a surgeon with a shaky hand
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to do anything near our body.
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But these technologies can help senior surgeons
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with amazing skill, amazing knowledge,
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to still make a significant contribution.
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And we know, in the period of population aging,
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surgeons, doctors will be in great shortage.
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The next physical barrier to work
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is the physical barrier in getting to work itself.
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So as we age, things like getting stuck in traffic
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or being in congested public transportation for so long
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only to take a long walking distance
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could be a major barrier to work for many senior citizens.
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Now, if a job does not require a physical presence,
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let’s imagine the possibility that remote working technology such as Zoom
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or maybe, in the future, the metaverse,
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can be used to completely remove the journey to work itself,
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and allow senior citizens to work from anywhere,
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any time, or maybe any country.
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If a job does really require a physical presence,
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let’s imagine the possibility of smart city technologies.
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One aspect of smart city technology
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is focused on optimizing city transportation resources
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by collecting data, information,
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from sensors or cameras,
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and using it to improve the journey to work for senior citizens
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so that their journey to work can be better and safer.
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The second group of senior employment technologies
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is something that can be called cognitive augmentation technologies.
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So as we age, we also tend to lose some of our cognitive abilities.
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For example, we tend to lose our ability to memorize things
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or our abilities to compare pictures, objects,
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which is called perceptual speeds.
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Let’s imagine the possibility that maybe our cell phone, our laptop
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or maybe virtual reality glasses
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can be equipped with cognitive augmentation software
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powered by artificial intelligence,
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which can be used as a companion brain.
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So in the future, this device can be used to help senior citizens,
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senior workers,
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to show them work-related information as needed,
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so they don't need to memorize everything --
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which would be great for me right now, too --
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(Laughter)
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help enhance, for example, perceptual speeds
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when senior workers, senior citizens need to identify objects or find defects,
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and they can actually make the final decision better and faster.
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Of course, beyond the physical and cognitive barriers
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that I have mentioned,
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we still need to find a way to remove social barriers to work,
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which is called ageist beliefs.
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It's the belief that senior citizens
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are always less productive than younger workers
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for any kind of occupation.
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I think senior employment technologies can take us one step closer
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to removing, or maybe significantly reducing ageist beliefs.
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I think if we can do this thing, we can break the negative aging spiral
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and create something that can be called a positive aging spiral.
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Imagine a 50-year-old living in a developing country,
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but in this case, this person actually invests in their skill,
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this person actually invests in their health,
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because they know this investment will be valued.
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And not only that,
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this person actually looks forward to the next journey in their lives.
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Then at the age of 60, senior citizens who are qualified to work,
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or could become qualified to work,
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because of senior employment technologies,
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and need or want to work,
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should be able to work.
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If we can do this,
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I think we can achieve and become a wealthy and healthy aging society.
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So by using these senior employment technologies ...
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When we think about technologies ...
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some technologies might seem scary,
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some might seem concerning.
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But I think senior employment technologies is the right kind of technology
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that our world, our society needs more right now.
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And we can use senior employment technologies
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to transform and democratize senior employment,
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from scarcity to abundance.
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And I think we can use it to transform the lives of many people
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from suffering through the process of population aging
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to flourishing in the process of population aging.
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Thank you very much.
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(Applause)
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