What You Need to Know About Carbon Removal | Gabrielle Walker | TED

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So I'm going to talk to you about carbon removals,
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and I’m going to start with this.
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This is a woolly pig.
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(Laughter)
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She's gorgeous, obviously,
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and she’s also one part in a whole new set of approaches
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for dealing with climate change.
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They are all called carbon removals,
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and they all involve taking CO2 out of the sky
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and storing it somewhere safe.
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I’ll come back to the woolly pig later,
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but first, why do we need carbon removals?
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Because I know what you’re thinking:
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isn’t it easier to stop putting the carbon in the atmosphere
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in the first place?
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And the answer is yes, of course it is.
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We have to do everything we can as fast as we can
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to stop carbon getting into the sky
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and stop climate change getting worse.
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That should not be a controversial point of view at this meeting.
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But the problem is ...
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we’ve left it too late.
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We can't now do it fast enough.
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I've been working on climate change for more than 20 years,
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and I’ve talked about it in boardrooms and classrooms
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and everywhere in between,
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and I was shocked when I found this out,
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but the science is utterly ...
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utterly clear.
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If we’re going to have a fighting chance of staying below 1.5 degrees,
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that “safe limit,”
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we have to have carbon removals,
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and it looks like we’re going to need a lot.
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Scenarios from the Energy Transitions Commission,
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from the International Energy Agency,
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from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change,
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have all shown that we’re going to need billions of tonnes of carbon removals
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between now and 2050
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to give us a chance of staying below 1.5 degrees.
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We’re going to need both reductions and removals.
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But there's another more heartening reason why we need carbon removals.
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They also give us a chance --
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our only chance --
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not just to stop the problem getting worse,
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but to make it better.
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Because even 1.5 degrees isn't actually safe.
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We’re not there yet, and we’re already experiencing the fires and the floods
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and the droughts and the storms.
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With carbon removals,
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we can take our historical emissions out of the atmosphere.
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We can clean up the mess we’ve made,
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and we can give our world a chance to heal.
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So what do the removals look like?
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I’ve been talking to a lot of people about carbon removals,
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from business executives to climate activists,
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and they tend to go one of two ways.
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They either think of trees
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or they think of big, futuristic machines.
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Nature versus tech;
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green versus chrome.
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But the more I’ve dug into carbon removals,
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the more I’ve realized this is not the right way to think about them.
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Because the world is full of ways to store carbon.
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You can store it in trees,
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you can store it in soils,
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you can store it in the ocean,
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you can store it in buildings,
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you can store it in rocks,
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you can store it deep underground.
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And every one of those approaches requires some combination of natural resources
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and human ingenuity
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and technology.
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We’re going to need both nature and technology.
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I'll show you what I mean.
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So we start on the natural end of the spectrum with trees.
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Now, I still find it astonishing
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that every single tree and plant on Earth
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has made its entire body directly from carbon in the air.
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They’re incredible carbon capture machines,
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and we’re going to need a lot more of them.
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But we also have to do it right,
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because if you put trees in the wrong place ...
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they burn.
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We have to put trees in places where they foster biodiversity,
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where they don’t compete with food for land
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and where science and technology tell us they are likely to survive
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even in the face of climate change.
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Now, if you don’t want that CO2 from the burning trees
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to get into the sky,
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you can actually burn the wood deliberately in a power station,
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capture the CO2
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and bury it in a process known as BECCS,
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which also gives you energy as a sideline.
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But if you want to keep the carbon locked up in the wood,
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there are technological ways to do that as well,
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like this one.
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Look at this.
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A whole new movement to use wood as a building material
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in modern, high-rise buildings.
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That’s a good idea for at least three reasons.
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First of all, it keeps the carbon locked up in the wood.
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Secondly, it displaces high-emitting materials like concrete.
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And thirdly, the buildings are gorgeous.
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Now you can also use technology to help carbon stay locked up in soil.
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Storing carbon in soil sounds like a good idea,
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and it is a good idea.
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The question is how long does the carbon stay there?
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Because if you change your agricultural practices for one year, two years,
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that’s fine.
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But if you ever go back to the old ways,
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the carbon goes back up into the sky.
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That’s why this stuff can help.
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It’s called biochar,
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and you make it by taking wood and burning it in the absence of oxygen
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until you get this.
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It locks the carbon up in the wood,
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and now it can’t burn away.
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Now, it turns out that biochar is very good for soils.
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In fact, Indigenous people in the Amazon have been using it for generations
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to improve the quality of their soil.
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We can do that on a much bigger scale,
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improve the soil
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and lock up carbon.
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That’s nature
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and technology
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and Indigenous wisdom,
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all in one sweet package.
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Now you can use technology as well ...
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to speed up natural processes.
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So this is basalt.
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It’s a volcanic rock.
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You can find it more or less everywhere on Earth,
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and it naturally takes up CO2 in a process called chemical weathering.
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Unfortunately, it takes thousands of years to do it.
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But you can speed up the process if you grind up the rock
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and spread it on fields,
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and then you can speed it up to just a couple of years.
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And like biochar, it’s good for the soil.
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You get minerals in the soil where you need them.
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And when it washes off into the sea,
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it can also help with another big bugbear of climate change:
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ocean acidification.
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And if we did this on two-thirds of the world’s croplands,
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we could potentially take up to four billion tonnes of carbon
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from the atmosphere every year,
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which is a very big chunk of what we need.
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Now, these approaches so far,
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like planting trees,
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take a lot of land to be able to get them to scale.
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But there is one approach
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where you can actually do it in a very small amount of land,
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but still get to scale.
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It’s called direct air capture,
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and it basically involves massive electric fans blowing a lot of air
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over a carbon capture device.
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Now, OK, this does look like a big, futuristic machine.
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I admit that.
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But it’s still marrying technology with a natural process --
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geology --
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because when you’ve captured the CO2,
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you bury it deep underground.
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This is an artist’s impression of a plant that’s being designed
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by Carbon Engineering in Texas.
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And its aim is that it will take up
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one million tonnes of CO2 from the atmosphere every year.
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And I love this bit --
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where does it go?
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They put it deep underground in the same geological formations
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that the Texas oil was originally squeezed out of.
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I love the poetry of this.
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It’s like reversing the valve
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and putting the CO2 back where it came from.
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And recent studies have shown that if you do that,
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98 percent of it will still be there in 10,000 years.
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When you put it down,
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it stays down.
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This is still a little bit futuristic.
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It’s still in the planning and design stages,
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but this carbon capture plant started operating this year.
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A smaller scale,
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but it’s already doing it.
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This is Climeworks and Carbfix in Iceland.
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They're using geothermal heat to power it,
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and they’re putting the CO2 into the Icelandic basaltic rock.
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So one issue, though, with direct air capture,
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is it takes a lot of energy to power those fans.
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And that energy obviously has to be green.
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It has to be clean;
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you can’t use fossil fuels for it.
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But it also makes it much more expensive than other techniques.
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And it takes energy to cook wood and to grind rock,
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and so all of those approaches I’m talking about
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are currently much more expensive than planting trees.
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But we can do something about that.
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We can invest in it now,
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do the research and development
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and get them down the cost curve to make them affordable.
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It worked for solar power;
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it worked for wind;
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it can work for carbon removals, too.
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Remember, we have to get to very big scale:
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billions of tonnes of carbon removals by 2050.
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But we can all help by reducing our emissions as much as possible
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and figuring out how to remove the rest.
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I’m not talking conventional offsets.
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You know, I put a tonne of CO2 in the air,
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and I pay you not to put your tonne in the air,
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but my tonne’s still there.
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No, what I mean is I put a tonne of CO2 in the air,
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I pay someone to take a tonne out of the air, now or in the near future,
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and we can get to zero and beyond.
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What goes up must now come down.
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And if we all do that,
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if we all make that commitment,
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then the people trying to make removals happen will have the finance
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and the courage
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and the confidence to be able to get to the scale that we need.
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I don’t know which of all of these approaches,
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in the end,
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are going to be the ones that we’ll have to use
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to get us to the scale we need.
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But I do know that we’re going to need a whole spread of them,
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with nature and technology working hand in hand
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to take CO2 out of the sky
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and keep it out.
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Which brings me neatly back ...
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to the woolly pigs.
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(Laughter)
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Now, these woolly pigs live on an estate on the Isle of Mull,
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which is owned by Jim Mann’s Future Forest Company.
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And I know they don’t look very dangerous,
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but they are actually the closest you can get
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to a native Scottish wild boar
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without having to have a dangerous animals license.
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And they do what the Scottish wild boars used to do.
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They rootle up the undergrowth left over from selective grazing.
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They let the seed bank come to the surface
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so that native trees can start to grow
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and start to take up CO2 from the sky.
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They're also planting trees in this lovely place.
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Native broadleaf like oak and this beech tree,
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and it’s plenty wet enough on the Isle of Mull
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that they’re not likely to burn.
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So that’s so far, so natural
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But they also have machines.
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This one is getting ready to cook wood for biochar to go on the soils,
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and they’ve also got a quarry with basalt.
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They’re quarrying basalt rock.
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They’ve got machines to grind up the rock,
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and they’ve got machines to spread it on the fields.
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That's three carbon removals approaches in one beautiful place.
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Now, it’s just one estate,
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but all of these approaches and more are hugely scalable.
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The world is full of places where you can plant trees
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and put carbon in soil
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and grind up rock and spread it
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and capture CO2 from the air
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and find places to store it underground.
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All of those things.
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And there’s hundreds --
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thousands of people working right now
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to get those carbon removals approaches out of the textbook
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and into practice,
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and to help us --
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God help us --
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reverse the damage we have done
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and start the process of climate healing.
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And when I sat on that hillside,
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and I saw the pigs rootling
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and the trees growing
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and the machines getting ready to cook and grind,
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I loved it ...
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because I experienced an emotion
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that those of us who work on climate change
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very rarely experience.
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I felt hope.
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Thank you.
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(Applause and cheers)
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