Double Genitive and Possessive Forms in English

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English with Jennifer


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Hi everyone. I'm Jennifer from English with  Jennifer. Can I ask you a question? Who do you  
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take after? Meaning, who do you look like or act  like? Do people say you're the spitting image of  
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your great-grandmother? Are you tall like your  grandfather? Maybe you view the world like your  
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father or you're easy going like your mother. I  have my mother's laugh, and my sneeze is loud just  
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like my father's. I also picked up habits from my  grandmother. One habit of hers was making lists:  
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a packing list before a trip, a shopping  list, a to-do list, you name it.
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Of course, we're all unique individuals, but we're  also an interesting combination of the traits we  
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inherited. Right? That's something to think  about. Well, another thing I'd like to invite  
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you to reflect on is how we use possessive forms.  In this lesson, we'll look at phrases like these:  
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just like my father's, one habit of hers. Let's  study odd uses of possessive nouns and pronouns.
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I told you that my sneeze is loud just like my  father's. I didn't have a noun after "father's,"  
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but I think you knew what I was referring to.  Right? My father's sneeze. Sometimes we omit  
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or leave out a noun after a possessive form  because it's understood. This practice has a name  
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ellipsis. I have a whole lesson on omitting words,  and I'll put the link in the video description.  
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Look at these sentences and tell me which words  I omitted. My answer is different from Carla's.
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I have my cell phone right  here. That must be Bradley's.
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My room is here on the right.  Nolan's is on the left.  
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And Mom and Dad's room is upstairs. They converted  the whole attic into a really awesome suite.
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Nolan's what? Nolan's room. It's understood.
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By the way, do you understand that the mom  and dad share a room or have separate rooms?
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They share a room together. Right?  Don't forget that we only need 's  
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after the second name if two  people own something together.
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And while we're talking about the placement  of the apostrophe, how do we make a noun  
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possessive if it's actually a group of  words, like father-in-law or my in-laws?
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Easy. Just stick 's after the last word in the  group, as in "my father-in-law's business,"  
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"my in-laws address."
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Let's do a very quick review of possessive nouns.  If you have a personal noun, meaning the name of  
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a person, then use 's: Jennifer's habit.  If the name ends in -s, you have a choice:  
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add 's or just the apostrophe. Whichever pattern  you choose, be consistent. Jess's cousin.  
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It sounds the same no matter which way you  write it. For a family name, make it plural  
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and then add an apostrophe: the Lebedevs' dog.  The patterns are similar for common nouns,  
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like the singular noun "boy": the boy's bike. And  the plural noun "girls": the girl's friendship.  
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The exception is an irregular plural  noun like "women": women's rights.
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Let's try a quick task to  practice that earlier pattern  
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where we omit a word after a possessive  noun. Some call it an independent genitive.  
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Complete my sentence with your own words.  Put your statement in the comments.
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Here's my example. I have my father's  eyes, but my nose is just like my mother's.
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Here's another instance where we leave  out a noun after a possessive form.  
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Guess where I was in this photo.  Do you recognize these ladies?
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I was at Andreia's. When I first started filming  the Basic English series, we met at Andreia's  
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home. Then the two ladies moved in together,  so we started to film at Flavia and Andreia's.
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Some call this the local genitive. We  use a possessive name all by itself,  
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and we understand it's a location: their place,  their home, their house, their apartment.
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If there's a party at my place,  what might you tell others?
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"Hey! There's a party at Jennifer's. Let's go!"
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We also use the local genitive  to talk about places of business,  
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like a doctor's office. When you  have a dental exam, where do you go?
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To the dentist's. And when you  have an eye exam, where do you go?
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To the eye doctor's.
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Have you ever noticed how many restaurants and  cafés are named after the owner and chef? Sal's.  
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Mama Lita's.
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Even if the full name of the restaurant is Sal's  Pizza, frequent guests refer to it as Sa'l's.  
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"Let's go to Sal's tonight." And it  officially may be Mama Lita's Café,  
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but a happy customer will say,  "Mama Lita's is the best!"
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Use of the ellipsis and the local genitive  isn't too hard to understand, but I admit the  
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double genitive is a bit odd. I gave the example  "one habit of hers" when I was talking about my  
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grandmother's love of making lists. The double  genitive is also called the double possessive,  
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and we use "of" plus a possessive noun or pronoun,  as in "one of my grandmother's" or "one of hers."
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Super quick review of possessive pronouns: mine,  yours, his, hers, its, ours, theirs. Remember that  
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pronouns replace nouns. That means they can  behave like nouns and be subjects, objects,  
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and complements. Yours is newer. "Yours"  is the subject. They fixed mine. "Mine"  
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is the object of the verb, the direct object.  That's ours. "Ours" is the subject complement.
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A fairly common use of the double genitive  is with "friend" and other words that refer  
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to a social relationship of some kind:  a friend of mine, a friend of Vicki's,
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a colleague of mine, a colleague of Jennifer's.
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You may ask, "Why can't we just say 'my friend'  or 'Vicki's friend'? 'My colleague'? 'Jennifer's  
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colleague'?" You can. I'm sure you realize by  now that we often have more than one way to  
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say the same thing. Sometimes it's a matter of  preference. I'd say that "a friend of mine" is  
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close and meaning to "one of my friends." I have  more than one friend, and this is one of them.
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"Friend," "cousin," and "relative" are three  words that can easily fit the double genitive  
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or phrases with "one of": one  of his friends, a friend of his,  
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one of her cousins, a cousin of hers, one of  our relatives, a relative of ours. Some see no  
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difference in meaning. I'd mostly agree with that,  but there could be a slightly different emphasis.  
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"One of" focuses on one member of a group, one  friend in his circle of friends, for example.
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And if I'm focusing on the quantity, I  wouldn't likely use the double genitive.  
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I'd say, "Two of his friends, most of  her cousins, some of her relatives."
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How about the difference between  "my friend" and "a friend of mine"?  
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There could be a subtle difference between saying  "my friend" and "a friend of mine." In my mind,  
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one of these phrases suggests a closer  relationship. The other one sounds more  
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casual and possibly suggests more distance  between the two of us. Can you guess?
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"She's my friend." To me, this  suggests a solid friendship.
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"She's a friend of mine."
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To me, this sounds more casual. It  could suggest we're not close friends.
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But that doesn't mean that "of mine" always  implies a relationship is distant or casual.  
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The use of adjectives can clarify how  close the relationship is. Here's how  
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I might handle some introductions. "I'd like  you to meet a close friend of mine, Bridget."  
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"Come meet a good friend of mine.  You two work in the same field."
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Which do you think sounds more natural? Sonya is  a best friend of mine. Sonya is my best friend.
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I wouldn't say, "Sonya is a best friend of mine."  
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How many best friends do we have? Lots? Uh-uh. I  would say, "Sonya is my best friend," or possibly,  
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"She is one of my best friends," if I have two  perhaps or three. Do you see the difference?
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So, would it sound natural to say,  "Bridget is a close friend of mine"?
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Yes. Because it's common to have a few  close friends, that is, more than one.
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Which of these statements clearly  mean that I have more than one cousin?
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Only the last two. "If I say Kim is my cousin,"  I may have only one. It's not clear. Also,  
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if Kim is a distant cousin, I'd likely use B: Kim  is a cousin of mine, but that's my preference.
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So, double genitives can  be used to identify people  
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and the relationship they have with  someone. Can you insert the missing nouns?
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Joey Taylor is an old friend of mine.  We went to the same high school.
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I can introduce you to Gabriella.  She's an acquaintance of mine.  
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We met through a mutual friend.
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A colleague of mine works at XYZ Company.  I can reach out to her and get her opinion.
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Here's another subtle difference  between the double genitive  
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and an "of" construction. Can you spot it?
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I like to draw, but i'm not as talented as Xiaonin  
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from the YouTube channel The Portrait Art. He  drew my portrait several years ago, so this is  
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a drawing of me. It's a drawing of Jennifer,  but it's not my work. It's Xiaonan's work.  
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He shared a lot of amazing art over the years, and  if you're familiar with his style, you might see  
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one of his portraits and say, "That's a portrait  of Xiaonan's. That's a drawing of Xiaonan's."
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Okay. So, we talked about using ellipsis, where we  leave out a noun after a possessive form because  
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it's understood. And we talked about using the  local genitive for homes and places of business.  
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We saw how the double genitive can  be used for social relationships.
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Another odd piece of grammar  is making inanimate nouns  
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possessive. We don't normally do this unless  the noun is somehow connected to people,  
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as in "Boston's love of sports" because  the people in Boston love sports.
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But there are set expressions  that use possessive forms,  
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and you simply have to gain familiarity  with them. They include these words:  
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"sake" -- as in "for goodness' sake," "for  heaven's sake," both of which are expressions  
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of exasperation, frustration or "for old  times' sake," (for the sake of old times).
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"Way" -- "out of harm's way," "put someone  in harm's way." This refers to danger.  
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How about "nature's way"? have  you heard that collocation?
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And expressions of measurement include  possessive nouns before the word  
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"worth," as in "get your money's  worth," "a week's worth of food."
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Here are two final questions for you to answer:  
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Did you ever go to the movie theater and  feel like you didn't get your money's worth?
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How much are you willing to  spend on a week's worth of food?
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For more uses of possessive  nouns, check out my other lesson.  
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I go over additional units of measurement, and  I address the question of making inanimate nouns  
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possessive. I'll put the link  in the video description.
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That's all for now. Please like and  share the video if you found the lesson  
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useful. As always, thanks for  watching and happy studies!
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