Speech Expert Reveals How to MASTER English Pronunciation!

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์•„๋ž˜ ์˜๋ฌธ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ”ํด๋ฆญํ•˜์‹œ๋ฉด ์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋œ ์ž๋ง‰์€ ๊ธฐ๊ณ„ ๋ฒˆ์—ญ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.

00:00
Hello everyone, welcome.
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์•ˆ๋…•ํ•˜์„ธ์š” ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„, ํ™˜์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:01
I am very excited because today I'mย  speaking with Hadar from Accents Way.
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์˜ค๋Š˜์€ Accents Way์˜ Hadar๋‹˜๊ณผ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด ๋งค์šฐ ๊ธฐ์ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:07
Now Hadar, English is not your nativeย  language, yet you speak it without an accent.
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์ด์ œ ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฅด ์”จ, ์˜์–ด๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์–ต์–‘ ์—†์ด ์˜์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:14
You sound just like a native speaker.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ถ๋ฏธ์—์„œ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๊ณ 
00:15
You sound like anyone I wouldย  speak to in North America.
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์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๊ผญ ๊ฐ™์œผ์‹œ๋„ค์š” .
00:19
So how did you do it?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
00:22
Well, I am not a native speaker, that is true.
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ €๋Š” ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฑด ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ด์—์š”.
00:26
But I have trained to, Iย  wouldn't say eliminate my accent,ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์ œ ์–ต์–‘์„ ์—†์• ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ›ˆ๋ จ์„ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
00:34
but to acquire a new accent, whichย  was in my case, general American.
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์ œ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์–ต์–‘์ธ ์ƒˆ๋กœ์šด ์–ต์–‘์„ ์Šต๋“ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:38
So I studied the standard accent.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํ‘œ์ค€์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
00:41
And I did that because when I was 20I or 21Iย  enrolled in an acting school in New York City.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•œ ์ด์œ ๋Š” ์ œ๊ฐ€ 20~21์„ธ ๋•Œ ๋‰ด์š•์— ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋“ฑ๋กํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
00:48
And as part of my training, we wereย  offered speech and pronunciation classes,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ›ˆ๋ จ์˜ ์ผํ™˜์œผ๋กœ ์Šคํ”ผ์น˜ ๋ฐ ๋ฐœ์Œ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ์ œ๊ณต๋ฐ›์•˜๋Š”๋ฐ,
00:52
but not just for foreign students, but forย  everyone, because even the students who wereย ย 
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์™ธ๊ตญ์ธ ํ•™์ƒ๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋Œ€์ƒ์œผ๋กœ ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
01:00
from the US and from North America,ย  they each had a different accent.
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๋ฏธ๊ตญ๊ณผ ๋ถ๋ฏธ ์ถœ์‹ ์˜ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๋„ ๊ฐ๊ฐ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:04
So ultimately they wanted to teach generalย  Americans so that people would know how toย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ถ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์ธ์„ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ์›ํ•˜์—ฌ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํŠน์ • ์žฅ์†Œ์™€ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๋™์ผ์‹œ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š๋Š”
01:09
use an, an accent, like a neutral accent that isย  not necessarily identified with a specific place,ย ย 
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์ค‘๋ฆฝ ์•…์„ผํŠธ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:16
which is what I've learned and what I've acquired.
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์Šต๋“ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:18
And also later on, other dialects of English.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜์ค‘์—๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์˜์–ด ๋ฐฉ์–ธ๋„ ๋‚˜์˜ต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:21
And I did that back then too,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋•Œ๋„ ๊ทธ๋žฌ์–ด์š”. ๋‰ด์š•์ด๋‚˜ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์—์„œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ
01:24
so that I would have more opportunities asย  an actress in New York City or in the US.
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๋กœ์„œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ์–ป๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ฑฐ๋“ ์š” .
01:30
But with time, I discovered, you know,ย  that the impact of doing this work,ย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์ด ์ง€๋‚˜๋ฉด์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€
01:35
not just on how I sounded, but also onย  my confidence and my fluency in English,ย ย 
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๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ์ €์˜ ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ๊ณผ ์œ ์ฐฝํ•œ ์˜์–ด ์‹ค๋ ฅ์—๋„ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นœ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ๋ฐœ๊ฒฌํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:41
which we, you know, we wouldย  probably talk about later.
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์ด์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‚˜์ค‘์— ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:45
But that was the reason why how itย  all started or why it all started.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‹œ์ž‘๋˜์—ˆ๋Š”์ง€, ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹œ์ž‘๋œ ์ด์œ ์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:50
That's really interesting.
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์ •๋ง ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
01:51
I didn't know that, that at 20ย  you enrolled in acting schools.
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20์‚ด์— ์—ฐ๊ธฐํ•™์›์— ์ž…ํ•™ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋ชฐ๋ž์–ด์š”.
01:55
So and interestingly that it was with otherย  native speakers, which I want to discuss.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กญ๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋…ผ์˜ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๊ณผ์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™”์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:00
But first let me ask you at 20 or 21ย  when you enrolled, how was your accent?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋จผ์ € 20~21์„ธ์— ๋“ฑ๋กํ•˜์…จ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌผ์–ด๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ต์–‘์€ ์–ด๋• ๋‚˜์š”?
02:07
Could you tell where you were from?
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ด๋””์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
02:09
Did you speak with aย  noticeable accent at that time?
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๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๋Š” ์–ต์–‘์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜์…จ๋‚˜์š”?
02:12
So yes, I would say that I hadย  a non-native or foreign accent.
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๋„ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์™ธ๊ตญ ์–ต์–‘์„ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:17
So I had foreign features.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์™ธ๊ตญ์˜ ํŠน์ง•์„ ๊ฐ€์ง€๊ณ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:21
My vowels were like I, I didn'tย  distinguish between similar vowels.
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๋‚ด ๋ชจ์Œ์€ ๋‚˜์™€ ๊ฐ™์•˜๊ณ  ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๋ชจ์Œ์„ ๊ตฌ๋ถ„ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:26
I, I didn't pronounce the TH.
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๋‚˜, TH๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์–ด์š”.
02:28
So definitely my pronunciation was, wasย  very different 'cause I was applying someย ย 
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ๋‹ฌ๋ž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด์˜
02:34
of the sounds and other phonologicalย  rules from my own native language.
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ธฐํƒ€ ์Œ์šด๋ก ์  ๊ทœ์น™ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ์ ์šฉํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:39
And I would definitely hear quite a lotย  like the question, where are you from?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ' ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์–ด๋””์„œ ์™”๋‚˜์š”?' ๊ฐ™์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์„ ๊ฝค ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
02:45
And I hated it 'cause I was like,ย  why are you asking me where I'm from?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ซ์—ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒ๋ฉด ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋””์„œ ์™”๋Š”์ง€ ๋ฌป๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
02:50
What's wrong with my English?
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๋‚ด ์˜์–ด์— ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
02:51
Have I made a mistake?
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜ํ•œ ๊ฑธ๊นŒ์š”?
02:52
And I think that back then, for me that it wasย  really not, it wasn't important to change becauseย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ์—๋Š” ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜๋˜ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š”
03:00
I wasn't, I was ashamed ofย  not being a native speaker.
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์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ
03:03
It is what it is, you know, that was who I was.
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๋‚˜์˜€์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:06
But I think that it felt likeย  I was, it was robbing potentialย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜๊ณ , ์ž ์žฌ์ ์ธ
03:12
opportunities and and I wanted to have equalย  opportunities as other native speakers.
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๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๋นผ์•—๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•˜๊ณ , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋™๋“ฑํ•œ ๊ธฐํšŒ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:21
And I think This is why I put a lot of focus intoย  acquiring the general American accent that makes.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ์‹ ์–ต์–‘์„ ์Šต๋“ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋งŽ์€ ์ดˆ์ ์„ ๋งž์ถ˜ ์ด์œ ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
03:28
A lot of sense, especially since youย  wanted to be an actor at that time.
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ํŠนํžˆ ๊ทธ ๋‹น์‹œ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ผ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
03:33
Now, considering that my students watchingย  this probably don't want to become actors,ย ย 
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์ž, ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ๊ณ ๋ คํ•˜๋ฉด,
03:39
but do you still think it's importantย  for them to try to reduce their accent?
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๊ทธ๋ž˜๋„ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์–ต์–‘์„ ์ค„์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
03:44
Can you speak a little more of whatย  impact you feel that would make for them?
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋Š๋ผ๋Š” ์˜ํ–ฅ์ด ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น ์ง€ ์ข€ ๋” ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
03:49
Yeah, absolutely.
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์‘, ๋ฌผ๋ก ์ด์ง€.
03:50
So I think that different people haveย  different accents and different pronunciations.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋งˆ๋‹ค ์–ต์–‘๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ณ  ๋ฐœ์Œ๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
03:57
And that's just like that'sย  that's humanity, right?
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ธ๋ฅ˜์• ์ฃ ?
04:00
Even people from the same countryย  or even state may have differentย ย 
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๊ฐ™์€ ๊ตญ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€ ์ฃผ ์ถœ์‹ ์˜ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด๋ผ๋„
04:05
ways of saying things, sometimesย  different words that they use.
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๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๋„ ๋‹ค๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:10
So we definitely don't want to have a worldย  where there is no versatility or variety.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋‹ค์–‘์„ฑ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค์–‘์„ฑ์ด ์—†๋Š” ์„ธ์ƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:18
It's not possible and we don't want that.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถˆ๊ฐ€๋Šฅํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:20
We don't want everyone to sound the same.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:23
The work that I do is important because Iย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์€
04:26
think that learning pronunciation canย  help you on so many different levels.
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๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‹ค์–‘ํ•œ ์ธก๋ฉด์—์„œ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:30
First of all, you want to be clear.
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์šฐ์„ , ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:33
Like intelligibility is key whenย  it comes to accent training orย ย 
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๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ, ์•…์„ผํŠธ ํ›ˆ๋ จ์ด๋‚˜
04:38
pronunciation training for non-native speakers.
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๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ์„ ์œ„ํ•œ ๋ฐœ์Œ ํ›ˆ๋ จ์—์„œ๋Š” ๋ช…๋ฃŒ๋„๊ฐ€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:41
I don't do this to for for my studentsย  to lose their accents completely.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์•…์„ผํŠธ๋ฅผ ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์žƒ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:46
That is not the goal.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชฉํ‘œ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:47
And also what is the message that we're sending?
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๋‚ด๋Š” ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
04:49
They don't need to.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿด ํ•„์š”๋Š” ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:50
There is nothing to be ashamed ofย  by speaking having an accent in.
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์–ต์–‘์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์šด ์ผ์ด ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
04:55
If anything you should be proud for beingย  able to speak another language right Like it.
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์˜คํžˆ๋ ค ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์„ ์ž๋ž‘์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ด๋Š”
05:00
It's just proof that youย  know more than one language.
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๊ท€ํ•˜๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ๊ฐœ ์ด์ƒ์˜ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ฆ๊ฑฐ์ผ ๋ฟ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‚˜
05:03
If you have an accent in a certain language,ย  however, if your pronunciation is preventingย ย 
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ํŠน์ • ์–ธ์–ด์— ์–ต์–‘์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋ฐœ์Œ์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด
05:09
you from getting what you want and soundingย  clear and causing you insecurity and it makesย ย 
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์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ๋ถˆ์•ˆ๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋˜์–ด
05:16
you feel self-conscious and you have toย  repeat yourself and you are constantlyย ย 
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์ž์˜์‹์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๊ณ  ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ง์„ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋ฉฐ ์ง€์†์ ์œผ๋กœ
05:20
facing people with like a blank look onย  their face, then it's not serving you.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฃผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ผ๊ตด์— ๋ฉํ•œ ํ‘œ์ •์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:25
And that already affects your fluency and yourย  confidence and your ability to understand others.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์œ ์ฐฝํ•จ, ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ, ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:31
Now I know that you do a lot of workย  related to listening and understandingย ย 
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์ด์ œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ด€๋ จ๋œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ์„ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
05:35
others because it's so important whenย  communicating in a second language.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ œ 2 ์–ธ์–ด๋กœ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ตํ•  ๋•Œ ๋งค์šฐ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:40
And learning pronunciation canย  help you with that because you'reย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€
05:44
basically teaching yourself to hearย  and to listen through your mouth.
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ž…์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๋“ฃ๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
05:48
The repetition of sounds andย  practicing reductions help you.
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜๊ณ  ์ถ•์†Œ ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•ด๋‹น ์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€
05:53
It helps you understand how howย  the language is spoken and itย ย 
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์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋ฉฐ
05:58
helps you understand native speakers better.
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์›์–ด๋ฏผ์„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:01
So learning pronunciation isn't helping youย  is going to help you with building confidence,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์„ ํ‚ค์šฐ๊ณ , ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ
06:07
sounding clear, getting what you want,ย  and also understanding others better.
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๋งํ•˜๊ณ , ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์–ป๊ณ  , ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:13
Now there are other benefitsย  for learning pronunciation,ย ย 
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์ด์ œ ๋ฐœ์Œ ํ•™์Šต์—๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์ด์ ๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:15
but I would say these are the top three when itย  comes to the benefits of doing this kind of work.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ๋•Œ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ด์ ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ƒ์œ„ 3๊ฐ€์ง€๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:22
You made excellent points.
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ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์ง€์ ์„ ํ•˜์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:24
And I do hear from my students a lot that theyย  they feel too shy or ashamed of their speech inย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๋กœ๋ถ€ํ„ฐ
06:33
order to have those conversations because ofย  their pronunciation, because of their accent.
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๋ฐœ์Œ, ์–ต์–‘ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€ํ™”๋ฅผ ๋‚˜๋ˆ„๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›Œํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ถ€๋„๋Ÿฌ์›Œํ•œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋ง์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ฃ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:39
And I can imagine it really impacts them.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ์ƒํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:42
And so let's go back to when you were in actingย  school because this is so interesting to me.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋˜ ์‹œ์ ˆ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€ ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ํฅ๋ฏธ๋กœ์› ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
06:47
So you're in acting school withย  native English speakers as well.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์˜์–ด ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ํ•™๊ต์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ  .
06:52
Can you tell me what was your experienceย  trying to improve your pronunciation orย ย 
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๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
06:58
reduce your ascent compared to aย  native speaker trying to do that?
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์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๋‚ฎ์ถ”๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด ์–ด๋• ๋Š”์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
07:02
I just imagine if I had to learn to speakย  with a Texas accent or a British accent,ย ย 
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ…์‚ฌ์Šค ์–ต์–‘์ด๋‚˜ ์˜๊ตญ ์–ต์–‘์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์›Œ์•ผ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด,
07:09
I think that would be very difficult for me.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋งค์šฐ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:11
So how do you think that that experience wasย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์ด
07:14
different for you and native speakersย  you were doing this training with?
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๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ์ด ํ›ˆ๋ จ์„ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์—๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋‹ฌ๋ž๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
07:19
That's a great question.
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์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:21
I think that first of all, I always felt aย  little inferior 'cause it was like always,ย ย 
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์šฐ์„  ํ•ญ์ƒ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์—ด๋“ฑ๊ฐ์„ ๋Š๊ผˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋Š˜ ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋“ฏ์ด
07:27
oh, they, it's so easy for them, right?
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์•„, ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ์‰ฝ์ฃ ?
07:30
It wasn't just, you know, the exercises and theย  sentences that we had to read, Some of them wereย ย 
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฝ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ์—ฐ์Šต๋ฌธ์ œ์™€ ๋ฌธ์žฅ๋งŒ์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค . ๊ทธ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š”
07:35
so complicated to me also in a semantic level,ย  like I didn't understand what it meant becauseย ย 
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์˜๋ฏธ๋ก ์  ์ˆ˜์ค€์—์„œ๋„ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋„ˆ๋ฌด ๋ณต์žกํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
07:40
it was like all these old school vocabulary andย  you know, they kind of like they just read it.
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ํ•™๊ต ์–ดํœ˜์™€ ์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ์ฝ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
07:47
And I had to read it before everyone else like 10ย  times in my head to be able to say it confidently.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ž์‹  ์žˆ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์œผ๋ ค๋ฉด ๋‚จ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ๋จผ์ € ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์œผ๋กœ 10๋ฒˆ ์ •๋„ ์ฝ์–ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
07:53
And even then I wasn't confident.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋•Œ๋„ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ์ด ์—†์—ˆ๋‹ค.
07:55
So I felt like I had to catch up toย  even be close to where they were at.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ ๊ฐ€๊นŒ์ด๊นŒ์ง€ ๊ฐ€๋ ค๋ฉด ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก์•„์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:01
At the same time, I feel like that gave meย  an incentive and motivation to do this work.
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๋™์‹œ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋œ ๋™๊ธฐ์™€ ๋™๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๋ถ€์—ฌํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
08:07
And I worked a lot harder thanย  everyone else, which, you know,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋ณด๋‹ค ํ›จ์”ฌ ๋” ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:11
of course benefited me because I developed this.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ด๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐœ๋ฐœํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:17
I, I became a very diligent student.
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๋‚˜, ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถ€์ง€๋Ÿฐํ•œ ํ•™์ƒ์ด ๋˜์—ˆ๋‹ค.
08:19
I did the work.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ๋‹ค.
08:20
It impacted not just my, my, my pronunciation,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‚ด, ๋‚ด, ๋‚ด ๋ฐœ์Œ
08:24
but also myself esteem and how Iย  perceived myself as as a learner.
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๋ฟ๋งŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋‚ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์กด๊ฒฝ์‹ฌ๊ณผ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ํ•™์Šต์ž๋กœ์„œ ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์—๋„ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์ณค์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
08:29
You know, 'cause I did the work, I showed up,ย ย 
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์•Œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์ผ์„ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚ฌ๊ณ ,ย ย  ๊ทธ๋“ค์„ ๋”ฐ๋ผ์žก๊ณ 
08:30
I was consistent because Iย  wanted to catch up with them.
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์‹ถ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ผ๊ด€์„ฑ์„ ์œ ์ง€ํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
08:34
And I think that because of that,ย  my improvement was, was pretty fast.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ๋•๋ถ„์— ๋‚˜์˜ ๋ฐœ์ „์€ ๊ฝค ๋นจ๋ž๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
08:42
And I also studied privately with one, with twoย  of my teachers so that I could between the firstย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” 1ํ•™๋…„๋ถ€ํ„ฐ 2ํ•™๋…„๊นŒ์ง€ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜ ์ค‘ ํ•œ ๋ถ„, ๋‘ ๋ถ„๊ณผ ํ•จ๊ป˜ ๊ฐœ์ธ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๊ณต๋ถ€ํ–ˆ๊ณ ,
08:48
year and the second year, I took a lot ofย  private classes so that I would, you know,ย ย 
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08:52
at least have the same abilityย  to have conversational English.
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์ตœ์†Œํ•œ ๊ฐ™์€ ์ˆ˜์ค€์˜ ๋Œ€ํ™” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„ ๊ฐ–๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ฐœ์ธ ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋งŽ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜์–ด.
08:58
And, and I think that worked.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—” ๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ํšจ๊ณผ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:00
Has that work has paid off?
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๊ทธ ์ผ์€ ์„ฑ๊ณผ๋ฅผ ๊ฑฐ๋‘์—ˆ๋‚˜์š”?
09:02
The only thing that I thinkย  was a huge struggle was howย ย 
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ์— ํฐ ์–ด๋ ค์›€์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๋˜ ์œ ์ผํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€
09:06
the language was not immediate to me, right?
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์–ธ์–ด๊ฐ€ ๋‚˜์—๊ฒŒ ์ฆ‰๊ฐ์ ์ด์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
09:09
Like especially when we had to improviseย  or when we had to speak in class about,ย ย 
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ํŠนํžˆ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ฆ‰ํฅ์ ์œผ๋กœ ํ–‰๋™ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ˆ˜์—… ์‹œ๊ฐ„์—
09:16
you know, about how we feel and things like that.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋Š๋ผ๋Š”์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋•Œ์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ๊ฒƒ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
09:19
Like it was very easy for them to communicate.
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๋งˆ์น˜ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฌ์› ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ง์ด์ฃ .
09:21
And for me, the language was not that available.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์–ธ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:25
I was self-conscious about how it sounded.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์ง€์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ž์˜์‹์„ ๊ฐ€์กŒ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:27
I did all this pronunciation work.
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์ด ๋ฐœ์Œ ์ž‘์—…์€ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋‹ค ํ–ˆ์–ด์š”.
09:29
So I was always like in my head,ย  listening to myself from the outside.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•ญ์ƒ ๋จธ๋ฆฟ์†์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ณ , ์™ธ๋ถ€์—์„œ ๋‚˜ ์ž์‹ ์˜ ๋ง์„ ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:33
And I felt like I wasn't fully expressive.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํ‘œํ˜„๋ ฅ์ด ๋ถ€์กฑํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
09:35
I wasn't able to express myselfย  as fully as my colleagues.
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์ €๋Š” ๋™๋ฃŒ๋“ค๋งŒํผ ์ œ ์ž์‹ ์„ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํžˆ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
09:38
So I think that was also aย  challenge that I had to face.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ๋„ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง๋ฉดํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋„์ „์ด์—ˆ๋˜ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
09:42
And I think that's the thing, like non-nativeย  speakers, they in many situations at work, youย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์—๋Š” ๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์ง์žฅ์—์„œ ๋งŽ์€ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์ฒ˜ํ•œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
09:49
know, when writing emails in a global, in globalย  companies, in acting schools, at universities,ย ย 
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๊ธ€๋กœ๋ฒŒ ํšŒ์‚ฌ, ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ํ•™๊ต, ๋Œ€ํ•™์—์„œ ์ด๋ฉ”์ผ์„ ์ž‘์„ฑํ•  ๋•Œ
09:54
they probably need to work harder than theirย  native peers if the environment is in English.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ™˜๊ฒฝ์ด ์˜์–ด์ธ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋™๋ฃŒ.
10:00
But it's not necessarily a bad thing.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋ฐ˜๋“œ์‹œ ๋‚˜์œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:02
But we need to kind of like, understandย  how to work with those thoughts and makeย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ฒ˜๋ฆฌํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋Š”์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ณ  ์šฐ๋ฆฌ
10:06
sure that we don't see ourselvesย  as victims, but only, as, you know,ย ย 
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์ž์‹ ์„ ํ”ผํ•ด์ž๋กœ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ , ์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ
10:11
people with the power to do thoseย  things that we want and to change.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ณ€ํ™”์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ํž˜์„ ๊ฐ€์ง„ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๋กœ๋งŒ ์ธ์‹ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. .
10:17
Yeah, I like that perspective of turningย  what might be a weakness into a strengthย ย 
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๋„ค, ์•ฝ์ ์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ฐ•์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ด€์ ์ด ๋งˆ์Œ์— ๋“ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:22
because if we were both in acting school, Iย  might not prepare as much because I'm like,ย ย 
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๋‘˜ ๋‹ค ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ํ•™๊ต์— ์žˆ์—ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์ค€๋น„๊ฐ€ ๋ณ„๋กœ ์•ˆ ๋์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์œผ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ์š”.
10:28
oh, this will be easy, but thenย  you're taking the time to prepare.
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์•„, ์ด๊ฑด ์‰ฌ์šธ ํ…๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๋„Œ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๊ฒ ์ง€ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„.
10:32
So you might beat me becauseย  you took the time to prepare.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ค€๋น„ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํˆฌ์žํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋‚˜๋ฅผ ์ด๊ธธ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
10:36
Same with job interviews or givingย  presentations, giving speeches.
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์ทจ์—… ๋ฉด์ ‘์ด๋‚˜ ํ”„๋ ˆ์  ํ…Œ์ด์…˜, ์—ฐ์„ค๋„ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:40
Native speakers might just beย  like, oh, I don't need to prepare.
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์›์–ด๋ฏผ์€ ' ์•„, ์ค€๋น„ํ•  ํ•„์š” ์—†์–ด'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:43
But then you're busy working.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์ผํ•˜๋Š๋ผ ๋ฐ”์˜์ž–์•„์š”.
10:44
You're working hard.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ์—ด์‹ฌํžˆ ์ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:45
You're going to outwork me.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋‚˜๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ์ผํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:47
So that's that's a good point for everyone.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋ชจ๋‘์—๊ฒŒ ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
10:49
Exactly.
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์ •ํ™•ํžˆ.
10:50
It exactly, yeah.
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๋ฐ”๋กœ ๊ทธ๋ž˜์š”.
10:52
Yeah.
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์‘.
10:53
Now keeping in mind my students aren'tย  probably going to go to acting school orย ย 
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์ด์ œ ๋‚ด ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์€ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ํ•™๊ต์— ๊ฐˆ ์˜ˆ์ •์ด ์•„๋‹ ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ์–ต์–‘์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด
10:59
want to invest the significant amount of timeย  that you have to improve their their accents.
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์ƒ๋‹นํ•œ ์‹œ๊ฐ„์„ ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•˜์ง€๋„ ์•Š์„ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๋Š” ์ ์„ ์—ผ๋‘์— ๋‘์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค . ๋” ํญ๋„“์€ ์ฒญ์ค‘์—๊ฒŒ ๊ด€๋ จ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์—ฐ๊ธฐ ํ•™๊ต์˜ ๋ช‡
11:05
Can you share some some strategies orย  exercises from acting school that couldย ย 
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๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ „๋žต์ด๋‚˜ ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”
11:11
be relevant to just a broader, broader audience?
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11:15
Yeah, I can share the things that I've learnedย  myself and I kind of like modified it to,ย ย 
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๋„ค, ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฒƒ๋“ค์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ณ , ์™ธ๊ตญ ์–ต์–‘ ๋“ฑ์„ ์žƒ๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ
11:21
to to suit my students who who, who doย  this work not for the purpose of, you know,ย ย 
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๋ชฉ์ ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๋งž๊ฒŒ ์ˆ˜์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:29
losing their foreign accent or anythingย  like that or becoming an actor or actors.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ฉด ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ฐ€ ๋˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ .
11:36
First of all, I think that whenย  it comes to non-native speakers,ย ย 
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์šฐ์„  ๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š”
11:40
it's really important to identifyย  the the top priority, right?
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์ตœ์šฐ์„ ์ˆœ์œ„๋ฅผ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ
11:44
Like the key sounds that preventย  them from sounding clear.
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๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ํ‚ค ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
11:48
So for some people, you know,ย  they would say, oh, my flap T,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์–ด๋–ค ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ' ์˜ค, ๋‚ด ํ”Œ๋žฉ T'๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
11:54
flap T is the sound when the T is between twoย  vowels, like in the word Betty, or it is right.
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ํ”Œ๋žฉ T๋Š” Betty๋ผ๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด์—์„œ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ T๊ฐ€ ๋‘ ๋ชจ์Œ ์‚ฌ์ด์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ์˜ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ ์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งž์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:01
And those people might be like,ย  oh, you know, I can't get it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ' ์•„, ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์—†์–ด์š”.
12:05
It doesn't sound right.
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์˜ณ์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:06
I pronounce it like AT sound, whichย  is completely valid 'cause thereย ย 
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ AT ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:10
are dialects to use this pronunciationย  and they might want to focus on that.
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์ด ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์–ธ์ด ์žˆ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์–ดํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์œ ํšจํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:15
But at the same time they might beย  replacing the R with the L, right?
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋™์‹œ์— R์„ L๋กœ ๋Œ€์ฒดํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
12:20
And might say light instead of right.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์˜ณ๋‹ค๊ธฐ๋ณด๋‹ค๋Š” ๋น›์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:22
Something critical that if they make thatย  mistake, they're going to be misunderstood.
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์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์˜คํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๊ฒŒ ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:28
It's going to compromise their clarity.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๊ทธ๋“ค์˜ ๋ช…ํ™•์„ฑ์„ ์†์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:31
So it's really important toย  understand what are the things,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ
12:35
the elements, the sounds that prevent youย  from sounding clear, that get in your way.
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๋ฐฉํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ, ์š”์†Œ, ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
12:41
So sometimes it could be the R soundย  because you feel self-conscious,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” R ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ž์˜์‹์„ ๋Š๋ผ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์—,
12:44
you feel like you're investing a lot of energy.
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์—๋„ˆ์ง€๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ํˆฌ์žํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์ด ๋“ค๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:47
You avoid words with the R, right?
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R๋กœ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ํ”ผํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ ?
12:50
Like.
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12:50
So if that is the case, thatย  probably would be a top priority.
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์ข‹๋‹ค.
๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ตœ์šฐ์„  ๊ณผ์ œ์ผ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
12:54
So it's important to not go and learn allย  the sounds of American English becauseย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์˜์–ด์˜ ๋ชจ๋“  ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ
12:59
some of them are not an issue, may notย  be an issue, but only the key soundsย ย 
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์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋Š” ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ํ•ต์‹ฌ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋งŒ์ด
13:04
that are that affect your clarity, affect yourย  confidence, intelligibility, so on and so forth.
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๋ช…ํ™•์„ฑ, ์ž์‹ ๊ฐ, ์ดํ•ด๋„ ๋“ฑ์— ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋“ฑ๋“ฑ.
13:10
After that, it's important toย  learn how to produce it properly.
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๊ทธ ํ›„์—๋Š” ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ์ œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:14
And this is where you have hundreds and thousandsย  of videos online that teach you specific sounds.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ํŠน์ • ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜จ๋ผ์ธ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์ˆ˜๋ฐฑ, ์ˆ˜์ฒœ ๊ฐœ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
13:20
So you can go and learn how to produce the sound.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ฐ€์„œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:23
It's physical, it's technical, right?
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๊ทธ๊ฑด ๋ฌผ๋ฆฌ์ ์ด๊ณ  ๊ธฐ์ˆ ์ ์ด์ฃ , ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
13:25
What to do with the lips, what to doย  with the tongue, what to do with the jaw,ย ย 
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์ž…์ˆ ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€, ํ˜€๋ฅผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€ , ํ„ฑ์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€,
13:29
where to place the sound.
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์–ด๋””์— ๋‘์–ด์•ผ ํ• ์ง€.
13:31
And then once you understand how toย  produce a sound that might be challenging,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์–ด๋ ค์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•œ ํ›„์—๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด ๋์— ๋‚˜ํƒ€๋‚˜๋Š”
13:36
let's say the dark L, the L thatย  appears at the end of words.
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์–ด๋‘์šด L, ์ฆ‰ L์„ ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
13:40
Well, let's say you say well, and then you'veย  learned how to pronounce the dark L Well, now it'sย ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, ์ž˜ ๋งํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ด๋‘์šด L ๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๋ฐฐ์› ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์Œ, ์ด์ œ๋Š”
13:47
not enough because it doesn't mean that you'llย  be able to use it consistently when speaking.
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๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ์ผ๊ด€๋˜๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๋Š” ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:52
You have to turn it into a habit.
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์Šต๊ด€์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
13:54
Pronunciation is a habit.
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๋ฐœ์Œ์€ ์Šต๊ด€์ด๋‹ค.
13:56
So once you learn how to produce a certainย  sound, you have to repeat it again and again.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํŠน์ • ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šด ํ›„์—๋Š” ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:00
And usually I teach it inย  words, phrases, and sentences.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ณดํ†ต ๋‹จ์–ด, ๊ตฌ๋ฌธ, ๋ฌธ์žฅ์œผ๋กœ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:04
So it's kind of like building up so that you,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€
14:08
it becomes more natural for you,ย  it becomes more spontaneous.
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๋‹น์‹ ์—๊ฒŒ ๋” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์ง€๊ณ , ๋” ์ž์—ฐ์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์ง€๋„๋ก ์Œ“์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:12
And this is how you can startย  using it on your own, right?
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์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ง์ ‘ ์‚ฌ์šฉ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
14:15
Like you, you have to do all of that work beforeย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ๊ณผ ๋งˆ์ฐฌ๊ฐ€์ง€๋กœ ๋‹น์‹ ๋„ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ณ€ํ™”ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ „์— ๋ชจ๋“  ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
14:18
expecting yourself to use it onย  your own or or for it to change.
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.
14:23
Great.
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์—„์ฒญ๋‚œ.
14:24
So that's that's a start, yeah.
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์ด์ œ ์‹œ์ž‘์ด๊ตฐ์š”, ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
14:27
Identify what sounds that you need to improve.
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๊ฐœ์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
14:31
Now what if at that point a student didn'tย  actually know mm hmm how their accent is?
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์ด์ œ ๊ทธ ์‹œ์ ์— ํ•™์ƒ์ด ์ž์‹ ์˜ ์–ต์–‘์ด ์–ด๋–ค์ง€ ์‹ค์ œ๋กœ ์•Œ์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ๋ ๊นŒ์š”?
14:41
I'm thinking back to my own experience and Iย  might when I'm speaking a foreign language Iย ย 
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์ œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜์„ ๋˜๋Œ์•„๋ณด๋ฉฐ ์™ธ๊ตญ์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ
14:46
might say something but really notย  know if I'm saying it correctly.
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๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ๋ง์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ •ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ์ž˜ ๋ชจ๋ฅผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
14:50
Do you have any advice to helpย  these students even understandย ย 
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์ด ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด
14:54
what areas of their pronunciationย  or accent they need to work on?
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์—ฐ์Šตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๋ฐœ์Œ์ด๋‚˜ ์–ต์–‘์˜ ์˜์—ญ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜๋Š” ์กฐ์–ธ์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
14:59
Sure.
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14:59
So I would say that criticalย  mistakes or the top priorityย ย 
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ํ™•์‹ ํ•˜๋Š”.
๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋‚˜ ์ตœ์šฐ์„  ์ˆœ์œ„๋Š”
15:04
would be eliminating sounds and awareness is key.
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์—†์• ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ณ  ์ธ์‹์ด ํ•ต์‹ฌ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:08
So I'm going to say those things and then thoseย  watching like our, our, our viewers might need toย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ, ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž์™€ ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹œ์ฒญ์ž๋“ค์€
15:15
record themselves and see if they're doing thoseย  things because you're able to hear it right?
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์ž์‹ ์„ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋“ค์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๊นŒ? ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ
15:19
Like, but sometimes when we speak and we'reย  in our head, it's a little hard to notice it.
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๋•Œ๋กœ๋Š” ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๋จธ๋ฆฌ ์†์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ์•„์ฐจ๋ฆฌ๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:25
So This is why using recordings is really good.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋…น์Œ์„ ํ™œ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง ์ข‹์€ ์ด์œ ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:28
If you drop sounds mine insteadย  of mind tech instead of texts.
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ํ…์ŠคํŠธ ๋Œ€์‹  ๋งˆ์ธ๋“œ ํ…Œํฌ ๋Œ€์‹  ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ.
15:33
OK, that happens for certainย  speakers if you add sounds.
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์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•˜๋ฉด ํŠน์ • ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์ด ๋ฐœ์ƒํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:38
So if instead of saying bus, you say busย  Oh, OK, you're adding a vowel sound at theย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋ฒ„์Šค๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ๋ฒ„์Šค๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜๋ฉด ์•„, ์•Œ๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋์— ๋ชจ์Œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์ถ”๊ฐ€
15:45
end and you're changing the number of syllables,ย  instead of 1 syllable, it becomes two syllables.
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ์Œ์ ˆ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ•˜๋ฉด 1์Œ์ ˆ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ 2์Œ์ ˆ์ด ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:52
That is going to completely affect your clarity.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ช…ํ™•์„ฑ์— ์™„์ „ํžˆ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์น  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
15:56
The Luckily these mistakes are not veryย  common, but these are top priority.
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๋‹คํ–‰์Šค๋Ÿฝ๊ฒŒ๋„ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋Š” ํ”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์ง€๋งŒ ์ตœ์šฐ์„  ์ˆœ์œ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:01
If you replace one sound that exists in Englishย  with another sound that exists in English.
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์˜์–ด๋กœ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ์กด์žฌํ•˜๋Š” ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ.
16:05
What do I mean?
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๋‚ด ๋ง์€ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋œป์ธ๊ฐ€์š”?
16:06
Rs and LS right?
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Rs์™€ LS ๋งž์ฃ ?
16:07
If you say light instead of rightย  without thinking about it or you are,ย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์˜ณ๋‹ค ๋Œ€์‹ ์— ๊ฐ€๋ณ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
16:12
but you're not working intentionally onย  it, the and wah a lot of people replaceย ย 
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๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์ง€ ์•Š๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋งŽ์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด
16:17
those sounds SA and TH OK sink instead ofย  think that could compromise your clarity.
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๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ SA์™€ TH OK ์‹ฑํฌ ๋Œ€์‹ ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ๋ช…ํ™•์„ฑ์„ ์†์ƒ์‹œํ‚ฌ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋Œ€์‹  ๋Œ€์ฒดํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:24
So I would put all of these as top priority.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ตœ์šฐ์„ ์œผ๋กœ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:27
Below that there are sounds like he soundsย  like the R if it's mispronounced the THย ย 
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๊ทธ ์•„๋ž˜์—๋Š” R์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. TH๋ฅผ ์ž˜๋ชป ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๋ฉด R์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. TH
16:33
sheep ship vowel pair pool pull likeย  similar vowel sounds that people merge.
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์–‘์„  ๋ชจ์Œ ์Œ ํ’€ ํ’€์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํ•ฉ์น˜๋Š” ์œ ์‚ฌํ•œ ๋ชจ์Œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์™€ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:39
So they will say sheep and sheepย  for instead of sheep and ship right.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์€ sheep and sheep ๋Œ€์‹ ์— sheep and sheep์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
16:45
So, so merging sounds and then reducingย  the number of vowels that one uses.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณ‘ํ•ฉํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ชจ์Œ ์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ์ค„์ด์„ธ์š”.
16:53
So that would be, it'sย  important, it's not critical.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ์ค‘์š”ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
16:57
Now I would also say, so these are the things thatย  people need to explore and see if they're doing.
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์ด์ œ๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ํƒ์ƒ‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์‚ฌํ•ญ์ด ๋ฐ”๋กœ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:02
There is more, but I think that's a good start.
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์‹œ์ž‘์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:05
Another thing that I wouldย  introduce would be prosody,ย ย 
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๋˜ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ด๋“œ๋ฆด ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šด์œจ,
17:11
intonation, rhythm, stress,ย  connected speech, right?
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์–ต์–‘, ๋ฆฌ๋“ฌ, ๊ฐ•์„ธ, ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ๋ฐœ์„ฑ์ด์ฃ ?
17:16
So if you tend to separate your words soย  that you sound clear, like I'm doing now,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ง€๊ธˆ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋“ค๋ฆฌ๋„๋ก ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋ถ„๋ฆฌํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒฝํ–ฅ์ด ์žˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
17:23
speaking in the sense of staccatoย  because because of your first language,ย ย 
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์Šคํƒ€์นดํ†  ์˜๋ฏธ๋กœ ๋งํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๊ตญ์–ด
17:28
maybe that's how it is in your first languageย  or because you're trying to be clear.
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์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ.
17:32
I think it's not a sound, but it's definitelyย  an aspect of speech that is important forย ย 
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์•„๋‹Œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์ง€๋งŒ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ
17:40
clarity because people are used to receiving theย  language or thoughts in groups in chunks, right?
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ์–ธ์–ด๋‚˜ ์ƒ๊ฐ์„ ๋ฉ์–ด๋ฆฌ๋กœ ์ง‘๋‹จ์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ›์•„๋“ค์ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ต์ˆ™ํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋ช…ํ™•์„ฑ์„ ์œ„ํ•ด ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋ฐœํ™”์˜ ์ธก๋ฉด์ด๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
17:49
And if you separate it, it's going toย  be harder for people to understand.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ถ„๋ฆฌํ•˜๋ฉด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋” ์–ด๋ ค์›Œ์งˆ ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:53
So I would also say this is one of theย  things that students should focus on.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ๊ฒƒ ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
17:59
I think that's that's that's enough for now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฑธ๋กœ ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•˜๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ด์š”.
18:04
There's more, but yes, definitelyย  enough to get them going for sure.
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๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๊ฒƒ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ, ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ์ง„ํ–‰์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ์—๋Š” ์ถฉ๋ถ„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:10
And remember everyone take it one step at a time.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ํ•œ ๋ฒˆ์— ํ•œ ๋‹จ๊ณ„์”ฉ ๋‚˜์•„๊ฐ€๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
18:13
You're improving these things,ย  not immediately everything.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ฆ‰์‹œ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์‚ฌํ•ญ์„ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ•œ
18:16
Just work on one thing at a time.
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๋ฒˆ์— ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋งŒ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
18:20
Now, as my students are improving these areas,ย  do you have any suggestions for how they can beย ย 
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์ด์ œ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์˜์—ญ์„ ํ–ฅ์ƒ์‹œํ‚ค๋Š” ๋™์•ˆ ํ˜„์žฌ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ์–ต์–‘์œผ๋กœ๋„ ๋” ์ž˜ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ œ์•ˆ์ด ์žˆ์œผ์‹ ๊ฐ€์š”
18:29
better understood even withย  the accent they have now?
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? ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
18:33
Because I had an unfortunate situation where I wasย  getting gas and I was trying to work the pump andย ย 
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์ฃผ์œ ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์„œ ํŽŒํ”„๋ฅผ ์ž‘๋™์‹œํ‚ค๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ
18:42
it wasn't working and a voice came on the intercomย  and said something and I didn't understand it.
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์ž‘๋™ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ  ์ธํ„ฐํฐ์—์„œ ์Œ์„ฑ์ด ๋‚˜์˜ค๋ฉฐ ๋ฌด์Šจ ๋ง์„ ํ•˜๋Š”๋ฐ ์ดํ•ด๋ฅผ ๋ชปํ•˜๋Š” ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์šด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:50
I said what?
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๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋งํ–ˆ์ง€?
18:51
Because that's what we say in in American English.
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์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
18:54
What?
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๋ฌด์—‡?
18:55
And then he repeated himself andย  I still didn't understand it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ง์„ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์ €๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:00
And then he repeated it again.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:02
And after that third time Iย  still didn't understand it.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์งธ ์ดํ›„์—๋„ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ ๋ง์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:05
And it was a non-native speakerย  on the other side of the intercom.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ธํ„ฐ์ฝค ๋ฐ˜๋Œ€ํŽธ์—๋Š” ์™ธ๊ตญ์ธ ํ™”์ž๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:10
So what could that student do or other otherย  students do when they're in the moment?
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ๊ทธ ํ•™์ƒ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ทธ ์ˆœ๊ฐ„์— ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
19:18
They aren't going to be ableย  to change how they pronounceย ย 
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€
19:21
sounds 'cause they're communicating right now.
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์ง€๊ธˆ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐœ์Œํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:23
Is there any strategies they can use toย  just be clearer with the accents they have?
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์ž์‹ ์ด ๊ฐ–๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ์–ต์–‘์„ ๋”์šฑ ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜๊ฒŒ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ „๋žต์ด ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
19:29
Yeah.
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์‘.
19:30
This is this is a a good a good questionย  and a good story because of course,ย ย 
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์ด๊ฒƒ์€ ์ข‹์€ ์งˆ๋ฌธ ์ด๊ณ  ์ข‹์€ ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฌผ๋ก ,
19:36
because it was it wasn't face to faceย  communication, which makes it easier, right?
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๋Œ€๋ฉด ์†Œํ†ต์ด ์•„๋‹ˆ์—ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋” ์‰ฝ์ฃ ?
19:42
That makes it easier for you toย  understand and I think and youย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ๋” ์‰ฌ์›Œ์ง€๊ณ , ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ์•„๋‹Œ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค๊ณผ
19:47
have experience working withย  non-native speakers, right.
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ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•œ ๊ฒฝํ—˜๋„ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋งž์ฃ .
19:49
So even you terrible.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์กฐ์ฐจ๋„ ๋”์ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ํ• 
19:52
I felt terrible that I couldn't.
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์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์–ด์„œ ๋”์ฐํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:55
Now probably most native speakers.
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์ด์ œ ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋Œ€๋ถ€๋ถ„์˜ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ์ด ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
19:58
I think a lot of native speakers do feel bad whenย  they can't understand someone else because weย ย 
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๋งŽ์€ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ๋“ค์ด ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์˜ ๋ง์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๋•Œ ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์›Œํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋Š”
20:03
want to help people, we want to be good listeners,ย  and I felt very badly that I couldn't understand.
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์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์„ ๋•๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ณ , ์ž˜ ๋“ค์–ด์ฃผ๊ณ  ์‹ถ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ธ๋ฐ, ์ €๋Š” ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋‹ค๋Š” ์‚ฌ์‹ค์— ๋งค์šฐ ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์›Œํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:11
And this person and I also felt likeย  I probably made him feel bad becauseย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ด ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๊ณผ ๋‚˜ ์—ญ์‹œ๋„ ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์„ ๊ธฐ๋ถ„ ๋‚˜์˜๊ฒŒ ํ–ˆ์„์ง€๋„ ๋ชจ๋ฅธ๋‹ค๋Š” ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค.
20:17
I had to ask him to repeat himself three times.
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๊ทธ์—๊ฒŒ ์„ธ ๋ฒˆ์ด๋‚˜ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•ด๋‹ฌ๋ผ๊ณ  ๋ถ€ํƒํ•ด์•ผ ํ–ˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋‹ค. ๊ทธ
20:20
And even after that I stillย  couldn't understand him.
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ํ›„์—๋„ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๊ทธ๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:23
So I felt very bad about this situation.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ์ด ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์•ˆํƒ€๊นŒ์› ๋‹ค.
20:27
I can imagine and it's like it's veryย  uncomfortable because you don't wantย ย 
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์ง์ž‘ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
20:30
to make someone feel misunderstoodย  or or bad or embarrassed in any way.
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๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋–ค ์‹์œผ๋กœ๋“  ์˜คํ•ด๋ฐ›๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‚˜์˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ฐฝํ”ผํ•˜๋‹ค๋Š” ๋Š๋‚Œ์„ ๋ฐ›๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์›ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์— ๋งค์šฐ ๋ถˆํŽธํ•œ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:37
So I think as if you communicate with anyoneย  native speaker and non-native speaker and youย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์›์–ด๋ฏผ, ๋น„์›์–ด๋ฏผ ๋ˆ„๊ตฌ์™€๋„ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ต์„ ํ•  ๋•Œ
20:44
are you feel like you're not clear or someone doesย  not understand you, I would say the first thing.
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์ž์‹ ์ด ๋ช…ํ™•ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๋Š๋ผ๋ฉด ๋จผ์ € ๋ง์”€๋“œ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‹ถ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
20:51
Do not repeat saying whatย  you just said in the sameย ย 
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๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋งํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ๊ฐ™์€
20:54
way because probably something there wasย  not transformed or transitioned properly.
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๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๊ฑฐ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๋‚ด์šฉ์ด ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ๋ณ€ํ˜•๋˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์ „ํ™˜๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:01
It could be the sounds, it couldย  be the specific words and maybeย ย 
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ , ํŠน์ • ๋‹จ์–ด์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ณ ,
21:04
the mispronunciation in one of the words thatย  changed how you perceive the entire sentence.
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์ „์ฒด ๋ฌธ์žฅ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์„ ๋ฐ”๊พผ ๋‹จ์–ด ์ค‘ ํ•˜๋‚˜์˜ ์ž˜๋ชป๋œ ๋ฐœ์Œ์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:11
It could be the stress, right?
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์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค์ผ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
21:13
Primary stress.
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๊ธฐ๋ณธ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค.
21:14
Maybe a word was the theย  primary stress was misplaced.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ๋‹จ์–ด ํ•˜๋‚˜๊ฐ€ ์ฃผ์š” ๊ฐ•์„ธ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป๋˜์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:18
Maybe the stress on the content word or theย  keyword in the phrase was incorrect, right?
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๋‚ด์šฉ ๋‹จ์–ด์˜ ๊ฐ•์„ธ๋‚˜ ๋ฌธ๊ตฌ์˜ ํ‚ค์›Œ๋“œ๊ฐ€ ์ž˜๋ชป๋˜์—ˆ์„ ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ๊ฒ ์ฃ ?
21:25
Which is also really, really important, right?
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์–ด๋Š ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ •๋ง, ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ๊ฐ€์š”?
21:28
Which word you stress or you deliver the message.
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์–ด๋–ค ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ•์กฐํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ฉ”์‹œ์ง€๋ฅผ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๋Š”์ง€.
21:32
So do not repeat it in the same way.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฏ€๋กœ ๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
21:35
Try to use different words.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
21:38
Go slower, OK?
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์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ ๊ฐ€์„ธ์š”, ์•Œ์•˜์ฃ ?
21:40
If you are on the phone or in a radio or whatever,ย ย 
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ํ†ตํ™” ์ค‘์ด๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋ผ๋””์˜ค ์ค‘์ด๋ผ๋ฉด
21:45
raise your pitch a little bit so youย  project your voice differently, right?
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์Œ์กฐ๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋†’์—ฌ์„œ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ด ๋ณด์„ธ์š”. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
21:50
Sometimes when we're down here,ย ย 
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๋•Œ๋•Œ๋กœ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์— ์žˆ์„ ๋•Œ,
21:51
we sound a little muffled and theย  voice does not carry through properly.
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์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•ฝ๊ฐ„ ์•ฝํ•ด์ง€๊ณ  ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์ œ๋Œ€๋กœ ์ „๋‹ฌ๋˜์ง€ ์•Š์„ ๋•Œ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:55
So you can change.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ€ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
21:57
Remember when we had masksย ย 
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21:59
back in during the pandemic and we had to changeย  our voice to get through the to the other person?
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ํŒฌ๋ฐ๋ฏน ๊ธฐ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ๋งˆ์Šคํฌ๋ฅผ ๋‹ค์‹œ ์ฐฉ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ  ์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์—๊ฒŒ ์ „๋‹ฌํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”์•ผ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋•Œ๋ฅผ ๊ธฐ์–ตํ•˜์‹œ๋‚˜์š”?
22:04
So a lot of times I, I would notice that peopleย  subconsciously just raise their pitch, right.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์˜์‹์ ์œผ๋กœ ์Œ์กฐ๋ฅผ ๋†’์ด๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ž์ฃผ ๋ณด์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ .
22:08
They go more nasal, they projectย  their voice better do that right.
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋” ์ฝง์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ฉฐ ๋ชฉ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋” ์ž˜ ํ‘œํ˜„ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:13
So don't repeat it 1 to one.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ 1๋Œ€1๋กœ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”.
22:16
Change something about maybe theย  wording or use different words.
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๋ฌธ๊ตฌ๋ฅผ ๋ณ€๊ฒฝ ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
22:22
Slow down, change your pitch a little bit.
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์ฒœ์ฒœํžˆ, ํ”ผ์น˜๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋ฐ”๊ฟ”๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
22:27
And also I would recommend deciding what isย  the like really quickly if you can't do it.
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๋˜ํ•œ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์—†๋Š” ์ผ์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ์ •๋ง ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ
22:35
What is the most importantย  word that is important here?
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๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ๋ฌด์—‡์ธ๊ฐ€์š” ?
22:39
If if the person understands this word, would theyย  make sense of the rest of the sentence, Right.
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๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ด ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋ฌธ์žฅ์˜ ๋‚˜๋จธ์ง€ ๋ถ€๋ถ„๋„ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
22:45
So the keyword, the content wordย  in English needs to be longer,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ํ‚ค์›Œ๋“œ, ์ฆ‰ ์˜์–ด๋กœ ๋œ ๋‚ด์šฉ ๋‹จ์–ด๋Š” ๋” ๊ธธ๊ณ ,
22:49
louder, higher in pitch, OK,ย  longer, louder, higher in pitch.
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๋” ํฌ๊ฒŒ, ๋” ๋†’์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. OK, ๋” ๊ธธ๊ณ , ๋” ํฌ๊ฒŒ, ๋” ๋†’์•„์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
22:52
So make sure that there is atย  least one word that sticks out.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋ˆˆ์— ๋„๋Š” ๋‹จ์–ด๊ฐ€ ํ•˜๋‚˜ ์ด์ƒ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ํ™•์ธํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
22:56
Say it longer, say it slower, andย  raise the pitch for it a little bit,ย ย 
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๋” ๊ธธ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ , ๋” ๋Š๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๊ณ , ์Œ์กฐ๋ฅผ ์กฐ๊ธˆ ๋†’์ด์„ธ์š”.
23:01
and usually that would solve the problemย  no matter what pronunciation mistakesย ย 
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์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์œผ๋กœ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋ฉด ์–ด๋–ค ๋ฐœ์Œ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜๋“  ๋ฌธ์ œ๊ฐ€ ํ•ด๊ฒฐ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด
23:06
you're making because the otherย  person will will make sense of it.
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์ƒ๋Œ€๋ฐฉ์ด ์ดํ•ดํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:10
But they need something to workย  with and I think that could help.
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ๋Š” ํ•จ๊ป˜ ์ผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฌด์–ธ๊ฐ€๊ฐ€ ํ•„์š” ํ•˜๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋„์›€์ด ๋  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:14
That's excellent advice for sure.
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ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์กฐ์–ธ์ด๋„ค์š”.
23:16
And I think what you said about if theyย  can't understand you, don't just say itย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ๋งํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:22
again exactly the same way 'cause if Iย  couldn't understand you the first time,ย ย 
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๋˜‘๊ฐ™์€ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋งํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์„ธ์š”. ์™œ๋ƒํ•˜๋ฉด ์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ฒ˜์Œ์— ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
23:27
chances are I won't be able toย  understand you the second time.
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์•„๋งˆ๋„ ์ €๋Š” ๋‹น์‹ ์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋‘ ๋ฒˆ์งธ.
23:30
So I think all that advice you just gave wouldย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๋ชจ๋“  ์กฐ์–ธ์ด
23:33
have definitely helped thatย  person in that situation.
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๊ทธ ์ƒํ™ฉ์— ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ๋ถ„๋ช… ๋„์›€์ด ๋˜์—ˆ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:37
Yeah, yeah.
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์‘, ์‘.
23:38
And I think as a listener, andย  I bet that you can attest to it,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ฒญ์ทจ์ž๋กœ์„œ ๋ˆ„๊ตฐ๊ฐ€์˜ ๋ง์„ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ•  ๋•Œ ์ŠคํŠธ๋ ˆ์Šค๋ฅผ ๋ฐ›๋Š”๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ๋ถ„๋„ ์ฆ๋ช…ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:41
that you get stressed out whenย  you don't understand someone.
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23:45
And that also affects your ability to understand.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋˜ํ•œ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๋Š” ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์—๋„ ์˜ํ–ฅ์„ ๋ฏธ์นฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
23:48
So if it's repeated in the same way, it'sย  really hard for you to to now make sense ofย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๋™์ผํ•œ ๋ฐฉ์‹์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต๋˜๋ฉด ๊ฐ์ •์  ๊ฒฝํ—˜์œผ๋กœ ์ธํ•ด ๊ฐ‘์ž๊ธฐ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์ •๋ง ์–ด๋ ต์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
23:54
it all of a sudden because of the, the alsoย  the, the, the, the emotional experience.
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24:00
That's very true, Very true.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ๋งค์šฐ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋งค์šฐ ์‚ฌ์‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:03
Now, when you were working on yourย  accent, were there specific mistakesย ย 
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์ด์ œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์–ต์–‘์„ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ๋•Œ, ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ์ง€๊ธˆ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์•Œ๊ณ  ์žˆ์„
24:09
that you think you made that slowedย  down your process of reducing yourย ย 
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24:14
accent faster than you could have ifย  you knew everything that you know now?
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๋•Œ๋ณด๋‹ค ๋” ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ์–ต์–‘์„ ์ค„์ด๋Š” ๊ณผ์ •์„ ๋Š๋ฆฌ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋Š” ํŠน์ •ํ•œ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ?
24:20
And could you share some of these mistakesย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ 
24:23
that you made so my students canย  avoid making these same mistakes?
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์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ™์€ ์‹ค์ˆ˜๋ฅผ ํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์ด ์ €์ง€๋ฅธ ์‹ค์ˆ˜ ์ค‘ ์ผ๋ถ€๋ฅผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? ๋‚˜๋Š”
24:30
I think that I didn't, I wasn'tย  aware of prosody intonation,ย ย 
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์šด์œจ์˜ ์–ต์–‘,
24:35
rhythm and stress and, and, andย  connected speech and all of that.
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๋ฆฌ๋“ฌ๊ณผ ๊ฐ•์„ธ, ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ , ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ๋œ ์—ฐ์„ค๊ณผ ๊ทธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜์ง€ ๋ชปํ–ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:39
I did not learn that in school.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ํ•™๊ต์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
24:41
I learned it vicariously becauseย  we would imitate and do shadowing.
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๋”ฐ๋ผํ•˜๊ณ  ์‰๋„์ž‰๋„ ํ•˜๋‹ˆ๊นŒ ๋Œ€๋ฆฌ๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์› ์–ด์š”.
24:46
And when we worked on accents, thenย  yes, like there is impact to the rhythm,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์‚ฌํˆฌ๋ฆฌ ์ž‘์—…์„ ํ•ด๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๋„ค, ๋ฆฌ๋“ฌ์— ์ž„ํŒฉํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๊ธด ํ•œ๋ฐ, ์ผ๋ฐ˜์ ์ธ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‚ฌํˆฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ
24:50
but it wasn't something that I've learned aboutย ย 
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24:53
the American accent when I acquiredย  the general American accent, right.
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์ตํž ๋•Œ ๋ฏธ๊ตญ ์‚ฌํˆฌ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ๋ฐฐ์šด ๊ฑด ์•„๋‹ˆ์ฃ .
24:58
So for me, I only focused on soundsย  and there was still a missing link.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ €๋Š” ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์—๋งŒ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ–ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ˆ„๋ฝ๋œ ๋งํฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:03
That was hard for me toย  understand what that was like.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ์–ด๋–ค ๊ฒƒ์ธ์ง€ ์ดํ•ดํ•˜๊ธฐ๊ฐ€ ์–ด๋ ค์› ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ
25:05
I sounded, all the sounds were great, but thereย  was still something that wasn't pulling together.
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๋“ค์–ด๋ณด๋‹ˆ ๋ชจ๋“  ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ–ˆ์ง€๋งŒ ์—ฌ์ „ํžˆ ๋ญ”๊ฐ€ ์ž˜ ์–ด์šธ๋ฆฌ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ๋ถ€๋ถ„์ด ์žˆ์—ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:13
And I think that had I put more focusย  on recognizing that all of that aspect,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์šด์œจ์ฒ˜๋Ÿผ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์•„๋‹Œ ๋ชจ๋“  ์ธก๋ฉด์„ ์ธ์‹ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋” ์ค‘์ ์„ ๋‘์—ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค
25:20
you know, like prosody, the, the, the,ย  everything that is not the sounds.
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25:24
That makes a huge part of how we communicate.
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๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์€ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜์‚ฌ์†Œํ†ตํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐฉ์‹์—์„œ ํฐ ๋ถ€๋ถ„์„ ์ฐจ์ง€ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋žฌ๋‹ค๋ฉด
25:27
I think it would have madeย  things easier for me early on.
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์ดˆ๊ธฐ์— ์ผ์ด ๋” ์‰ฌ์›Œ์กŒ์„ ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
25:31
I would have listened to it differently, paidย  attention to nuance and and improved faster.
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๋‹ค๋ฅด๊ฒŒ ๋“ฃ๊ณ , ๋‰˜์•™์Šค์— ์‹ ๊ฒฝ์„ ์จ์„œ ๋” ๋นจ๋ฆฌ ๋ฐœ์ „ํ–ˆ์„ ํ…๋ฐ.
25:38
That's what I think.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‚ด ์ƒ๊ฐ์ด๋‹ค.
25:39
But I also think that being inย  acting school and doing this work,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ๋ฐ ์—ฐ๊ธฐํ•™์›์— ๋‹ค๋‹ˆ๋ฉด์„œ ์ด ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋ฉด์„œ
25:42
I got really good tools like the repetitions.
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๋ฐ˜๋ณต ๊ฐ™์€ ์ข‹์€ ๋„๊ตฌ๋“ค์„ ๋งŽ์ด ์–ป์€ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
25:46
I, I could have practiced more between us, but,ย  but I think that a lot of the things that I'veย ย 
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๋‚˜, ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋ผ๋ฆฌ ๋” ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ์ˆ˜๋„ ์žˆ์—ˆ๋Š”๋ฐ,
25:55
done back then, I, I teach them to my studentsย  today because I think the, the, the beginningย ย 
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๊ทธ๋•Œ ํ–ˆ๋˜ ๋งŽ์€ ์ผ๋“ค์ด, ๋‚˜, ๋‚ด๊ฐ€ ์˜ค๋Š˜ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์—๊ฒŒ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์ด์œ ๋Š”, ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š”
26:02
method and how I worked was, was good specificallyย  for, for sounds, but not for for everything else.
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๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•๊ณผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ด๋‹ค. ๋‚˜๋Š” ํŠนํžˆ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ๊ด€ํ•ด์„œ๋Š” ์ข‹์•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๋‹ค๋ฅธ ๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฉด์—์„œ๋Š” ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์•˜์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
26:10
And So what advice would you give toย  students so they can, if they're tryingย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด
26:14
to work on their R versus L, they can watch aย  YouTube video to understand the mouth position.
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R ๋Œ€ L ์—ฐ์Šต์„ ํ•˜๋ ค๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ๋ณด๊ณ  ์ž… ์œ„์น˜๋ฅผ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋„๋ก ์–ด๋–ค ์กฐ์–ธ์„ ํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ๊ฒ ์–ด์š”?
26:20
But how can they understandย  how those sounds are are usedย ย 
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ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€
26:24
in speech and the connection, the intonation, how?
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์—ฐ์„ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐ, ์–ต์–‘์—์„œ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์‚ฌ์šฉ๋˜๋Š”์ง€ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ดํ•ดํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์„๊นŒ์š”?
26:27
What should they specificallyย  do to improve those areas?
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์˜์—ญ์„ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ๊ตฌ์ฒด์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?
26:32
So for students who are not activelyย  learning it, 'cause you can learn itย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ ๊ทน์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ์ง€ ์•Š๋Š” ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ํ•™์Šตํ•  ์ˆ˜
26:35
and you can practice it, but if you're not,ย  then shadowing, for example, is a really,ย ย 
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์žˆ๊ณ  ์—ฐ์Šตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์€ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด ์„€๋„์ž‰์€
26:42
really great exercise to improve those aspects andย  also to develop intuition right around the rhythm.
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์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ์ธก๋ฉด์„ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฐœ์ „์‹œํ‚ค๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•œ ์ •๋ง ์ •๋ง ํ›Œ๋ฅญํ•œ ์—ฐ์Šต์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋ฆฌ๋“ฌ์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ง๊ด€.
26:54
And even without learning andย  practicing specifically rhythm,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ํŠน๋ณ„ํžˆ ๋ฆฌ๋“ฌ์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ  ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜์ง€ ์•Š๊ณ ๋„
26:57
which you can, you know, I teachย  it, but not everyone needs it.
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์ œ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น  ์ˆ˜๋Š” ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ ๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์—๊ฒŒ ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:01
Not everyone has access to it.
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๋ชจ๋“  ์‚ฌ๋žŒ์ด ์ ‘๊ทผํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•„๋‹™๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:03
So shadowing, which means toย  find a speaker that you like,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์„€๋„์ž‰์€ ์›ํ•˜๋Š” ์Šคํ”ผ์ปค๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์„ ์˜๋ฏธํ•˜๋ฉฐ
27:07
if you have the text in front of you, even better.
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ํ…์ŠคํŠธ๊ฐ€ ์•ž์— ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋”์šฑ ์ข‹์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:10
You know, you do that a lotย  in your on your channel.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ ์ฑ„๋„์—์„œ ๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ๋งŽ์ด ํ•˜์‹ญ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
27:13
And then you listen to a lineย  or two and you just imitate it.
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฐ ๋‹ค์Œ ํ•œ๋‘ ์ค„์„ ๋“ฃ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Œ€๋กœ ํ‰๋‚ด๋ƒ…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:17
You just repeat it and again and again and again.
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๋‹น์‹ ์€ ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ๊ณ„์†ํ•ด์„œ ๋ฐ˜๋ณตํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:19
And he tried to kind of like focus on the melodyย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋Š” ๋ฉœ๋กœ๋””์— ์ง‘์ค‘
27:22
and focus on the rhythm and focusย  on connecting the phrases together.
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ํ•˜๊ณ  ๋ฆฌ๋“ฌ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ํ”„๋ ˆ์ด์ฆˆ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋ ค๊ณ  ๋…ธ๋ ฅํ–ˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:27
And I think this is something that is very,ย  very beneficial for doing this kind of work.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์ €๋Š” ์ด๊ฒƒ์ด ์ด๋Ÿฐ ์ผ์„ ํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ๋งค์šฐ ๋งค์šฐ ์œ ์ตํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
27:35
And also, I think just reading outย  loud or speaking intentionally.
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ๊ทธ๋ƒฅ ํฐ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ์ฝ์–ด์ฃผ๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ๋งํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”.
27:42
So recording yourself, answering aย  question or talking about yourself,ย ย 
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ์ž์‹ ์„ ๋…น์Œํ•˜๊ณ , ์งˆ๋ฌธ์— ๋Œ€๋‹ตํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜, ์ž์‹ ์— ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ด์•ผ๊ธฐํ•˜๋˜,
27:46
but focusing on a specific thing.
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ํŠน์ • ์‚ฌํ•ญ์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
27:49
Now I'm focusing on making sure that my Rย  has like this nice deep rounded quality orย ย 
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์ด์ œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๋‚ด R์ด ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋ฉ‹์ง€๊ณ  ๋‘ฅ๊ทผ ํ’ˆ์งˆ์„ ๊ฐ–๋„๋ก ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜
27:56
sticking out the tongue for the TH orย  using more melody when I speak, right?
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TH๋ฅผ ์œ„ํ•ด ํ˜€๋ฅผ ๋‚ด๋ฐ€๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๋งํ•  ๋•Œ ๋” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฉœ๋กœ๋””๋ฅผ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ทธ๋ ‡์ฃ ?
28:02
So speaking freely, but being intentional aboutย  using one thing that you're trying to change,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ์ž์œ ๋กญ๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•˜๋˜ ๋ฐ”๊พธ๋ ค๋Š” ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฅผ ์˜๋„์ ์œผ๋กœ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๊ณ ,
28:09
you know, and going back to what youย  said about focus on one thing thatย ย 
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๋งํ•œ ๋‚ด์šฉ์œผ๋กœ ๋Œ์•„๊ฐ€์„œ
28:12
is really important when you do any kindย  of work, definitely pronunciation work.
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๋ชจ๋“  ์ข…๋ฅ˜์˜ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์ˆ˜ํ–‰ํ•  ๋•Œ ์ •๋ง ์ค‘์š”ํ•œ ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€, ์ฆ‰ ๋ฐœ์Œ ์ž‘์—…์— ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
28:17
Otherwise you get overwhelmed andย  confused and you don't benefit from it.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡์ง€ ์•Š์œผ๋ฉด ์••๋„๋‹นํ•˜๊ณ  ํ˜ผ๋ž€์Šค๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์ ธ์„œ ์•„๋ฌด๋Ÿฐ ํ˜œํƒ๋„ ์–ป์ง€ ๋ชปํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:23
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
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๋„ค, ์ •๋ง ์˜๋ฏธ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์–ด์š”.
28:24
And you have already sharedย  so many tips that my studentsย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ  ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์€ ์ด๋ฏธ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด
28:28
can start using to improve theirย  pronunciation, reduce their accent.
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๋ฐœ์Œ์„ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์–ต์–‘์„ ์ค„์ด๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ํŒ์„ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…จ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:32
So to help them not feel overwhelmed.
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์••๋„๊ฐ์„ โ€‹โ€‹๋Š๋ผ์ง€ ์•Š๋„๋ก ๋•๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด.
28:35
If they were only to do one thing, theย  very first thing that they should do,ย ย 
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๋งŒ์•ฝ ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ์ผ๋งŒ ํ•œ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๋จผ์ € ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์€
28:40
let's say this week to start workingย  on their pronunciation and accent.
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์ด๋ฒˆ ์ฃผ์— ๋ฐœ์Œ๊ณผ ์–ต์–‘์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์ž‘์—…์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•œ๋‹ค๊ณ  ๊ฐ€์ •ํ•ด ๋ณด๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
28:44
What should they do?
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๊ทธ๋“ค์€ ๋ฌด์—‡์„ ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๊นŒ?
28:47
So I would choose, I would spend the week justย  trying to figure out what they would want toย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ๋ฌด์—‡์—
28:55
focus on and practice and then put everythingย  on the side and then say to themselves, OK,ย ย 
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์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€์ง€ ์•Œ์•„๋‚ด๋ ค๊ณ  ํ•œ ์ฃผ๋ฅผ ๋ณด๋‚ธ ๋‹ค์Œ ๋ชจ๋“  ๊ฒƒ์„ ์ œ์ณ๋‘๊ณ 
29:00
for the next two weeks, 3 weeks, 4ย  weeks, I'm going to focus on the R.
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๋‹ค์Œ 2์ฃผ, 3์ฃผ, 4 ์ฃผ ๋™์•ˆ ์Šค์Šค๋กœ์—๊ฒŒ ์ด๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. , R์— ์ค‘์ ์„
29:05
I'm going to focus on and choose a sound like Iย  think that that is, if you're just starting out,ย ย 
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๋‘๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ œ ์ƒ๊ฐ์— ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์„ ํƒํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ฆ‰, ๋ฐฉ๊ธˆ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด
29:11
sounds are pretty are, are, are a good place toย  start because intonation could be more vague.
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ€ ์˜ˆ์˜๊ณ , ์žˆ๊ณ , ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ธฐ ์ข‹์€ ๊ณณ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์–ต์–‘์ด ๋” ๋ชจํ˜ธํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๊ธฐ ๋•Œ๋ฌธ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:17
And if you decide to do it, then createย  the like, find the resources for yourself.
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๊ธฐ๋กœ ๊ฒฐ์ •ํ–ˆ๋‹ค๋ฉด ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ๊ฒƒ์„ ๋งŒ๋“ค๊ณ  ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๋ฅผ ์ง์ ‘ ์ฐพ์œผ์„ธ์š”.
29:24
You know, the right videos teaching you that andย  and practice the sound with lots of repetition.
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์•„์‹œ๋‹ค์‹œํ”ผ, ์ด๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ๋™์˜์ƒ๊ณผ ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฐ˜๋ณต์„ ํ†ตํ•ด ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜์„ธ์š”.
29:33
OK, so identify the sound.
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์ข‹์•„์š”, ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํ™•์ธํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
29:35
I know you said one thing, but it's kind ofย  like identify the sound and then practice it.
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ํ•œ ๊ฐ€์ง€ ๋ง์”€ํ•˜์‹  ๊ฒƒ์€ ์•Œ์ง€๋งŒ, ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๊ณผ ๊ฐ™์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:39
Don't expect yourself to use it.
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์ž์‹ ์ด ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•  ๊ฒƒ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ๊ธฐ๋Œ€ํ•˜์ง€ ๋งˆ์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.
29:41
Just probably if it's the R, learn how to make itย ย 
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์•„๋งˆ R์ด๋ผ๋ฉด ๋งŒ๋“œ๋Š” ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์„ ๋ฐฐ์šฐ๊ณ 
29:44
and then just practice a lotย  of words with the R sound.
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R ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋กœ ๋‹จ์–ด๋ฅผ ๋งŽ์ด ์—ฐ์Šตํ•ด๋ณด์„ธ์š”.
29:47
Now when we have ChatGPT and all theseย  IAI tools, it's so easy to generate listsย ย 
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์ด์ œ ChatGPT์™€ ์ด๋Ÿฌํ•œ ๋ชจ๋“  IAI ๋„๊ตฌ๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉด ๋‹จ์–ด ๋ชฉ๋ก์„ ์ƒ์„ฑํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ด ๋งค์šฐ ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:53
of words, let's say with the R sound,ย  specifically with the R, it's easier.
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์˜ˆ๋ฅผ ๋“ค์–ด R ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ, ํŠนํžˆ R์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ๋” ์‰ฝ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
29:58
With others, it's not so much.
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๋‹ค๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์˜ ๊ฒฝ์šฐ์—๋Š” ๊ทธ๋‹ค์ง€ ๋งŽ์ง€ ์•Š์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:00
So that's it.
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๊ทธ๊ฒŒ ๋‹ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:01
I think I, I and I also think it's a lot of fun.
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๋‚˜๋„, ๋‚˜๋„, ๋‚˜๋„ ์ •๋ง ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•œ๋‹ค.
30:04
I'm biased a little bit, but Iย  do think pronunciation work canย ย 
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์กฐ๊ธˆ ํŽธ๊ฒฌ์ด ์žˆ์ง€๋งŒ,
30:08
be fun if you have the right mindset and attitude.
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์˜ฌ๋ฐ”๋ฅธ ์‚ฌ๊ณ ๋ฐฉ์‹๊ณผ ํƒœ๋„๋ฅผ ๊ฐ€์ง€๋ฉด ๋ฐœ์Œ ์ž‘์—…์ด ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:14
I think that's a great point and I agreeย  especially with your shadowing exercises.
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๋‚˜๋Š” ๊ทธ๊ฒƒ์ด ์ข‹์€ ์ง€์ ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋ฉฐ ํŠนํžˆ ๋‹น์‹ ์˜ ์„€๋„์ž‰ ์—ฐ์Šต์— ๋™์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ท€ํ•˜์˜ YouTube ์ฑ„๋„์—๋Š”
30:19
You have a lot of fun shadowingย  exercises on your YouTube channelย ย 
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์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ๋Š” ์‰๋„์ž‰ ์—ฐ์Šต์ด ๋งŽ์ด ์žˆ์œผ๋ฉฐ
30:23
and even just focusing on individual soundsย  it it's a nice mouth workout and I agree.
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๊ฐœ๋ณ„ ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์—๋งŒ ์ง‘์ค‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒƒ๋งŒ์œผ๋กœ๋„ ์ข‹์€ ์ž… ์šด๋™์ด๋ฉฐ ์ €๋„ ์ด์— ๋™์˜ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:29
So hopefully all my students will approach it withย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ž˜์„œ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€
30:32
that mindset is going to be fun to workย  on my pronunciation, improve my accent.
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๊ทธ ๋งˆ์Œ๊ฐ€์ง์œผ๋กœ ์ ‘๊ทผํ•˜๋ฉด ์žฌ๋ฏธ์žˆ์„ ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™์•„์š”. ๋ฐœ์Œ๋„ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•˜๊ณ , ์–ต์–‘๋„ ์ข‹์•„์ง€๊ฒ ์ฃ .
30:38
So now you have your work to do.
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์ด์ œ ๋‹น์‹ ์ด ํ•ด์•ผ ํ•  ์ผ์ด ์ƒ๊ฒผ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€
30:40
You need to identify that one sound that youย  want to improve and then commit to practicingย ย 
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์†Œ๋ฆฌ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ํŒŒ์•…ํ•œ ๋‹ค์Œ
30:46
that sound for one week, two weeks, or as longย  as it takes to feel comfortable with that sound.
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1์ฃผ, 2์ฃผ ๋˜๋Š” ํ•ด๋‹น ์†Œ๋ฆฌ์— ์ต์ˆ™ํ•ด์ง€๋Š” ๋ฐ ๊ฑธ๋ฆฌ๋Š” ์‹œ๊ฐ„ ๋™์•ˆ ํ•ด๋‹น ์†Œ๋ฆฌ๋ฅผ ์—ฐ์Šตํ•ด์•ผ ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
30:52
So everyone put that one sound thatย  you want to work on in the comments,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋‹ˆ ๋ชจ๋‘๊ฐ€ ์ž‘์—…ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์€ ์‚ฌ์šด๋“œ ํ•˜๋‚˜๋ฅผ ๋Œ“๊ธ€์— ์ ๊ณ ,
30:57
publicly commit to working on that.
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๊ทธ ์ž‘์—…์„ ๊ณต๊ฐœ์ ์œผ๋กœ ์•ฝ์†ํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:00
And Hadar has many resources to help you.
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Hadar์—๋Š” ๊ท€ํ•˜๋ฅผ ๋„์šธ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋งŽ์€ ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๊ฐ€ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:03
So Hadar, can you share how myย  students can connect with you,ย ย 
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๊ทธ๋ ‡๋‹ค๋ฉด ํ•˜๋‹ค๋ฅด ์”จ, ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค์ด ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๊ณผ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์†Œํ†ตํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€,
31:07
where they can find you so they can getย  the resources to improve that one sound?
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์–ด๋””์—์„œ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜์„ ์ฐพ์•„ ๊ทธ ์‚ฌ์šด๋“œ๋ฅผ ๊ฐœ์„ ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ๋ฆฌ์†Œ์Šค๋ฅผ ์–ป์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋Š”์ง€ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹ค ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”?
31:12
Yeah, 100%.
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์‘, 100%์•ผ.
31:13
So the best way is to just find me on my website,ย  which is my full name, Hadar shemesh.com.
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๋”ฐ๋ผ์„œ ๊ฐ€์žฅ ์ข‹์€ ๋ฐฉ๋ฒ•์€ ์ œ ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ(์ œ ์ด๋ฆ„์€ Hadar shemesh.com)์—์„œ ์ €๋ฅผ ์ฐพ๋Š” ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค .
31:19
This is where you get access to allย  my videos, podcast, social media,ย ย 
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์—ฌ๊ธฐ์—์„œ ๋‚ด ๋ชจ๋“  ๋™์˜์ƒ, ํŒŸ์บ์ŠคํŠธ, ์†Œ์…œ ๋ฏธ๋””์–ด์— ์•ก์„ธ์Šคํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:26
but you can of course also find me onย  YouTube at Accents Way English with Hadar.
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๋ฌผ๋ก  YouTube์˜ Accents Way English with Hadar์—์„œ๋„ ์ €๋ฅผ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:31
And of course, I will have everything linked upย  in the description so you can easily find it.
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๋ฌผ๋ก , ์„ค๋ช…์— ๋ชจ๋“  ๋‚ด์šฉ์„ ์—ฐ๊ฒฐํ•ด ๋‘์—ˆ์œผ๋ฏ€๋กœ ์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ฐพ์„ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:35
Well, thank you so much for being here Hadar,ย ย 
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๊ธ€์Ž„์š”, Hadar๋ฅผ ๋ฐฉ๋ฌธํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•˜๊ณ 
31:38
and sharing all your wonderfulย  advice and wisdom with my students.
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๋ชจ๋“  ๋ฉ‹์ง„ ์กฐ์–ธ๊ณผ ์ง€ํ˜œ๋ฅผ ์ œ ํ•™์ƒ๋“ค๊ณผ ๊ณต์œ ํ•ด ์ฃผ์…”์„œ ๊ฐ์‚ฌํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
31:42
Thank you so much Jennifer for having me.
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์ €๋ฅผ ์ดˆ๋Œ€ํ•ด ์ฃผ์‹  ์ œ๋‹ˆํผ์—๊ฒŒ ์ •๋ง ๊ฐ์‚ฌ๋“œ๋ฆฝ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค.
์ด ์›น์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ ์ •๋ณด

์ด ์‚ฌ์ดํŠธ๋Š” ์˜์–ด ํ•™์Šต์— ์œ ์šฉํ•œ YouTube ๋™์˜์ƒ์„ ์†Œ๊ฐœํ•ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์ „ ์„ธ๊ณ„ ์ตœ๊ณ ์˜ ์„ ์ƒ๋‹˜๋“ค์ด ๊ฐ€๋ฅด์น˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ˆ˜์—…์„ ๋ณด๊ฒŒ ๋  ๊ฒƒ์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๊ฐ ๋™์˜์ƒ ํŽ˜์ด์ง€์— ํ‘œ์‹œ๋˜๋Š” ์˜์–ด ์ž๋ง‰์„ ๋”๋ธ” ํด๋ฆญํ•˜๋ฉด ๊ทธ๊ณณ์—์„œ ๋™์˜์ƒ์ด ์žฌ์ƒ๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ๋น„๋””์˜ค ์žฌ์ƒ์— ๋งž์ถฐ ์ž๋ง‰์ด ์Šคํฌ๋กค๋ฉ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค. ์˜๊ฒฌ์ด๋‚˜ ์š”์ฒญ์ด ์žˆ๋Š” ๊ฒฝ์šฐ ์ด ๋ฌธ์˜ ์–‘์‹์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜์—ฌ ๋ฌธ์˜ํ•˜์‹ญ์‹œ์˜ค.

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