IELTS Success – Studying Academic English at a School

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Hi, there. We get a lot of questions on the site about all the different exams you can
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do with English. So we've decided to come along to a very good English school this morning
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to ask Shirley, who's in charge of exams and qualifications at the London School of English,
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about the different exams you can take, and Monica, who is a successful candidate of the
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IELTS exam.
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So Shirley, there are so many different qualifications. Why is the IELTS, in particular, one that
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many people try and do?
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Because it's the gateway to university. IELTS is the exam that you need to get into university
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and for further study. There are other exams that you can take, but IELTS is by far the
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most popular. And if you have a level of 6.5 or 7, you can go on to do whatever it is you
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want to do in your life. So getting that exam can be very tricky. So I think probably one
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of the reasons you get so many questions is because people are constantly looking for
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ideas and help and tips on how to get the best out of their exam.
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Sure. Monica, how did you find doing the IELTS? Did it take you a long time? Did you have
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to study very hard to do this exam? And how did you find it easier by coming here to the school?
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I study almost six months IELTS in Japan. But I couldn't get my IELTS score in my country.
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So that's why I decided to come here. And then -- yes. I can say my English skill was
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improved a lot in this school. So -- and then, this experience has contributed to getting
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into university.
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And did I get it right, Shirley, that there are two different kinds of IELTS? There's
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academic and general.
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General, yes. By far, the most popular one is the academic one. But if you want to -- if
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you need an exam for visa purposes or for immigration purposes, you can use a general
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IELTS, which is a slightly different exam. Actually, the writing paper is different,
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and the reading paper is different. But the speaking and the listening are the same. On
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the general English exam, the writing is much more about the kind of writing that you would
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have to do if you were living in a country, so it's letters. And the reading is more about
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understanding life around you. The type of IELTS that you probably get questions about
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is academic. And the writing is a sample of the kind of writing you can expect to produce
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in university and the same with the reading. It's the kind of text that you will need to
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access. And they are very difficult. But they're designed so that they can test every level
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from a beginner right through to advanced. So you really need to understand how to tackle
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the text because there will always be a question -- if you're a level 6 or a level 7, there
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will always be a question that you can't answer because only a level 9 can answer everything.
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And if you don't know how to tackle these texts, it can really feel like an impossible
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task. But it's not. You just need to know what you're doing. It starts from -- well,
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you've got -- a level 1 would be a beginner. And a level 9 is native speaker competence,
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so somebody who's completely comfortable with the language, and everywhere in between. So
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if you're looking at what you want for university, it will generally start around a level 6.
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And a level 6 will get you into a lot of universities. But you'll find your course quite stressful
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because it's pretty low. Actually, it will get you in the door, but if you want to really
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succeed, you need more than a 6. And I would say you aim for a 6.5 or a 7 to feel really
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comfortable. And it's not always IELTS that will get you there because often, you need
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more general English. You need to understand more about English in general before you can
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understand the academic side. If you study purely IELTS, you'll never get anywhere. You
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have to study IELTS and general English side by side.
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Yeah. So you've studied at this school for a while now. You've obviously become much
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better in your language skills. But are there other things that you've learned? Maybe you've
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learned thinking skills, analytical skills that have helped you?
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What I improved the most in this school and in London is the communication skills with
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people. So now, I have a much more confidence to communicate with native speakers because
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my English is not perfect. But I guess a lot of native speakers don't expect to speak a
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perfect English. But I can communicate with people. And I enjoy my university a lot. Of
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course, it's sometimes stressful, but it's very, very good experience for me. I just
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passed the first year of master's this June.
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And we're very proud.
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Thank you very much, Shirley and Monica.
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Thank you very much.
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I hope you found that useful about the IELTS examination. Now, I'm here with Rosie. And
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she is the university -- what was the actual title? University relations manager.
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That's right.
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Now, your role here is to help students -- you have an actual course for people who are applying
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for universities in London and the UK, and you help them actually get into those courses
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if that's suitable for them.
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That's right. Yeah. We've got a university preparation course called "English for University",
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which is academic English. So we have a separate IELTS preparation course. That doesn't cover
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the skills that you need for university, really, so extended essay writing skills, research
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skills, note taking in lectures, reading skills -- extensive reading skills, things like that.
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It sounds like a really exciting course. The students actually go out into the university
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to see what they're like because you do need to actually see a university before you know
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it's the right place, don't you?
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Yeah. Exactly. That's part of every four-week course. We go to visit a university, a London
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one. And as part of that, they get a campus tour. They go to the student cafeteria. They're
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often shown around by a student there. And they have a taste of a lecture. So they actually
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sit in a lecture. They listen to it. Whatever subject is on the course that month, they
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have a lecture associated with it. They take the notes and experience the real thing. So
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I think it really helps to have a clear idea of what university is like.
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Do you think that it's a good bridging process between someone living in, say, Japan, and
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then university life in England is going to be very different? Do you think this helps
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prepare them socially and in terms of what life living is going to be like in the UK as well?
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Yeah. It certainly helps. We actually developed the course with that in mind because we had
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students who were with us to do IELTS and then went straight to university. And they
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came back and said, "This is so different from what we expected." So -- yeah. This is
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actually one of our main aims. I mean, it's always going to be a shock to them when they
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actually start university in terms of the workload and the expectations of them because
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it's often very different from their own country. But -- yeah. Just constantly addressing all
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those issues. And like you said, social issues of being in university. How you address your
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tutor -- you know, it's not acceptable to be asking a million questions after every
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lecture. And the fact that they are, you know -- they have to settle into accommodation,
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open bank accounts, and all the rest of it. They have to be quite independent.
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And in terms of actually being accepted by a UK university, obviously the personal statement
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is very important on the UCAS application. How do you think this will help the students
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get the right message out there with that?
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Well, my role is -- I go in, and I support the English university course very strongly.
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But my role is independent from that. So students come to see me at break times or at lunchtime
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with questions about their application. So it might be, "Where can I study this course?"
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Or it might be, "What qualifications do I need?" Or, "Are my qualifications sufficient?"
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It's also very much, "Will you check my application." And a big part of that is the personal statement.
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They often don't realize just how important the personal statement is because if an admissions
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chief is looking at two very similar academic backgrounds, it will come down to the personal
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statement.
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So it's something that needs to be written and written again.
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Exactly. Yeah. It's draft, re-draft. Draft, re-draft. So it is a backwards and forwards
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process, which I help them with as much as they need.
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And have you been getting some good feedback on your recent courses.
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Yes. We actually have an alumni group, which enables us to stay in touch with students
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who are studying in the UK, especially London. So we hear back from them regularly. And actually,
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we've started organizing reunions. So -- yeah. We do hear back. We manage to keep in touch
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with the students. And the feedback we get is really positive. They do find it quite
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difficult to adapt to a university -- or some do. But they're always eternally grateful
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for the courses. They always say that without them, they wouldn't have got into university
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or they wouldn't have survived.
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Great. And a little bird told me that there is a bit of a reunion party going on tonight.
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That's right. Tonight's the night. There'll be good few of them coming back. Some of the
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teachers are coming along as well because it's them that the students want to see. So
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-- yeah. Cool. Should be good.
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See you at the party.
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[Crowd chatter]
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So I came down at the party, and I found a couple of guys. So we've got José here and
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Joe. José, where are you from?
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From Colombia.
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From Colombia. And we've also got Joe. And you're from --
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I'm from Taiwan.
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Great. So I just met these guys. And these people were in the same class together. Now,
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José, you're now doing an M.A.; is that right?
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That's right.
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And what's the subject?
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The subject is record production. So it's all the music part of the record production
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and how you create records and how you record. All the studio-related stuff.
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And your classmate Joe -- it's interesting because Joe is actually doing A levels now
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in quite scientific subjects. What subjects are you A levels again?
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I'm doing math - further math, physics, and chemistry.
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Cool. And is that someone near here in Central London?
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Yes. My college is near Fulham Broadway Tube station.
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Okay. And how are you finding being a student in the UK? Is it exciting? Scary?
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At first, I thought the subjects would be the same as Asian subjects. But actually,
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it's not. Here, they demand you to think about more deeply, and you require lots of English.
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Sure. So you found it quite helpful studying here before you did --
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Yeah. Because I did academic English here, so I found this quite useful.
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Okay. And just because my students here are learning some English at the moment on the
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Internet, why would you encourage them to come to London or an English-speaking country
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and immerse themselves in the life and possibly a language skill? Why would you say it's important?
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Well, I think London as a city -- it's a city that offers you everything you can find in
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the world. So it's like a melting pot of things and cultures. So as I said before, every neighborhood
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has its own characteristics and its own personality. So here, you'll find everything. So you'll
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find all the cultural differences you want to find.
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Lovely. I'm going to ask one last question to Joe. So just a little summary. What did
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you learn on your four-week course? You said it was academic English.
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It's a really quite tough subject. So you need to write a lot of essays.
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Okay. So it's essay writing as well.
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It's like, for example, for chemistry and physics, they require you have, kind of, critical
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thinking. You need to write a little bit -- very short essay -- to express your thoughts.
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So you learned to have better written English. Yes.
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Great. Well, thank you so much for coming in and speaking. I don't want to hold you
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any longer. So you know, enjoy the party.
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And thank you very much for watching this video. Hope this helps.
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