Better Speaking Podcast 🗨️🗣️ How to use vague language

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Let's start at the beginning — ABBA, in fact,
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is the first letter of the Christian names
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of Anni-Frid, Benny, Björn and Agnetha. That makes ABBA.
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Yeah, right.
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But it started all, Benny, with the Hep Stars, right?
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For me it did, yes.
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For you.
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Well, it started much earlier than that,
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because my grandfather gave me an accordion when I was six years old.
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That's how I came into music. He played himself and so did my father.
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Swedish superstars, ABBA, who took their name from the first letters
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of the names of the four members of the group:
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Agnetha, Benny, Björn and Anni-Frid.
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In today's Better Speaking, we hear more from ABBA
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and, as usual, English teacher Richard Hallows will be with me to explain
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what makes the four members of ABBA
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such effective users of English as an international language.
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Richard will also be giving us some more advice
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on becoming better speakers of English.
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I think it's very useful to employ some of this vague language when you're speaking,
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words like 'ish' or 'sort of' or 'kind of'.
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It's very useful and it can make you sound a more interesting,
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more natural kind of speaker.
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If you find it difficult to speak English
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and would like some help and advice on how to become more fluent,
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and maybe one day use English as confidently as ABBA,
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then Better Speaking is for you.
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ABBA were one of the most popular groups in many countries around the world
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throughout the '70s and early 1980s.
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We hear today an interview with the four members of ABBA
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Agnetha, Björn, Benny and Anni-Frida,
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or Frida as she was also called, at the height of their fame.
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The interviewer wanted to know why they spoke such good English.
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Does English have that much effect on your life?
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We have so many English television programmes, and American,
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and we don't dub them, we subtitle them,
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so we read the Swedish words and listen to the English language all the time.
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Same thing with films, you know.
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And they play records on the radio, most of them are
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English and American.
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In Sweden, people learn English at school
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and Swedes also watch a lot of English language television and films.
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The Swedish translation is not dubbed, not spoken over the English,
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but appears as subtitles or writing at the bottom of the TV or cinema screen,
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so the audience can hear the English words
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as well as reading the Swedish translation.
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And there's lots of pop music too, in English, of course,
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so young people growing up in Sweden get to hear a lot of English.
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We have so many English television programmes and American
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and we don't dub them, we subtitle them,
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so we read the Swedish words and listen to the English language all the time.
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Same thing with films, you know.
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And they play records on the radio, most of them are
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English and American.
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ABBA weren't always called ABBA. The group's original name was the Hep Stars.
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They were very successful in their home country of Sweden,
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selling more records than The Beatles at that time.
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The Hep Stars though became ABBA, but where does that name come from?
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Let's start at the beginning.
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ABBA, in fact, is the first letter of the Christian names
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of Anna-Frid, Benny, Björn and Agnetha.
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— That makes ABBA. — Yeah, right.
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But it started all, Benny, with the Hep Stars, right?
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— For me it did, yes. — For you?
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Well, it started much earlier than that,
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because my grandfather gave me an accordion when I was six years old.
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That's how I came into music. He played himself and so did my father.
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Tell us about the Hep Stars. This was, what, 1962, the Hep Stars?
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Yes, that's when we started and that was about the same time
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when The Beatles became so popular all over the world
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and we were very well-off.
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We sold, like, eight or nine golden records in Sweden.
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I think we outsold The Beatles by numbers, not by music.
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Benny, then, how did you meet Björn?
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Well, we met on the road, actually.
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I was in the Hep Stars and he was playing in a folk group.
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— The Hootenanny Singers? — The Hootenanny Singers, yes.
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BBC Learning English dot com.
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Richard, ABBA, very successful international singing stars,
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but are they international speaking stars?
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Very much so.
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I think ABBA speak very fluently with great range of vocabulary,
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amazing speakers really.
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What I'd particularly like to talk about today is the way they use vague language.
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And what do you mean by 'vague language'?
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Well, when you don't want to say something exactly.
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We use it also just for adding colour to your conversation,
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make yourself sound more interesting.
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Some examples I'd like to point out are when Benny says,
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"It was about the same time,"
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or, "We sold, like, eight or nine golden records."
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That was about the same time
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when The Beatles became so popular all over the world and we were very well-off.
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We sold, like, eight or nine golden records in Sweden.
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I think we outsold The Beatles by numbers, not by music.
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So it's not being exact, it's not being specific,
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it's sort of being vague.
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Exactly, 'sort of' is another way of being vague.
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So we've got the examples there, it was 'about' the same time,
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we sold, 'like', eight or nine, so 'like' and 'about'.
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What other expressions can we use to add this vagueness colour into our language?
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OK, well, Callum, why don't you tell people what colour my shirt is today?
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Ah, OK.
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Well, it's, it's kind of, it's sort of red.
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— Mm. — It's not exactly red.
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I suppose it's, um
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— Could you say? — 'reddish', 'reddish'.
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'Reddish': it's kind of red and it's brown, isn't it?
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Maybe we could say so. It's a 'reddish-brown'.
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Reddish-brown, OK.
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And also, I think I said it's 'sort of'.
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It's 'sort of' or 'kind of' you also said, yeah.
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So 'sort of', 'kind of' red, 'reddish'.
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This 'ish' is very interesting, actually.
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We can use it in loads of different ways.
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— Such as? — Well, ask me what time it is.
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OK. What time is it, Richard?
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Well, I'm not wearing my watch, but I think it's 'ten-ish'.
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'Ten-ish'. So you can add this on to any words?
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Yeah, like I could say 'oldish' or 'early-ish'
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or, in fact, we can use 'ish' on its own, just as a word in its own right.
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How would we use it on our own?
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Well, for example, you went to a party last night.
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— Mm-hm. — And did you have a good time?
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Ah, hmm, 'ish'.
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So you're using the word 'ish' to say, "Mm, it wasn't good, it wasn't bad."
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Right, OK, so 'ish' by itself
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and 'ish' added on to other adjectives, mainly, I suppose.
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Mm. So we looked at 'about', 'sort of', 'kind of', we looked at 'ish'.
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Now, I want you to try and use these different kind of vague words
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to describe someone.
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Um...
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Who?
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Oh, how about you've got a new girlfriend, haven't you? Tell us about, about her.
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Well, let's see, she's... I'd say she's 'tallish',
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she's, she's tallish, she's about one metre 75,
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— so... — More or less?
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— More or less. — There's another one.
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OK, so she's tallish, she's got dark, well, darkish hair,
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darkish, little bit of red in there, so reddish hair,
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and she's sort of, she's sort of shy.
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Do you know how old she is?
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Ooh, I, I, well, I haven't asked, I'm too much of a gentleman.
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Um, I think she's about, she's about 30.
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OK.
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So, moving away from my private life and back to ABBA's speaking life,
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what else would you like to pick out for us?
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Well, I'd like to talk about what ABBA actually said
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about the way people learn English in Sweden.
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They've talked about improving your English by watching films in English,
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watching TV in English, listening to music in English.
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So I think all these things go to prove the point that we've talked about before —
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how important it is to get as much exposure to English as possible.
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We have so many English television programmes, and American,
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and we don't dub them, we subtitle them,
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so we read the Swedish words and listen to the English language all the time.
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Same thing with films, you know.
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And they play records on the radio, most of them are
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English and American.
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So listening to and hearing natural, real English through movies, television,
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is a good way of improving your English.
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It's a wonderful way and enjoyable too.
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So, Richard, I wonder if, briefly, you could sum up those points for us?
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Well, I think it's very useful to employ some of this vague language
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when you're speaking, words like 'ish' or 'sort of' or 'kind of'.
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It's very useful and it can make you sound a more interesting,
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more natural kind of speaker.
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And also try to watch as much TV in English or listen to music in English
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and get as much exposure as possible.
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Maybe, if you do that, you're going to get a wide range of vocabulary,
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you're gonna be fluent, you're gonna have good comprehension skills
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and good pronunciation and sound as good as ABBA.
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Richard, for today, thank you very much for those better speaking tips.
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Thank you.
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Richard talked there about using vague language,
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describing something that's not exact.
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Remember Benny from ABBA used the words 'like' and 'about'.
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It was 'about' the same time when The Beatles became so popular.
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We sold 'like' eight or nine golden records in Sweden.
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And Richard gave us a simple way
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to describe a colour that is not clearly one thing or another.
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We can say it's 'sort of' brown or 'brownish'.
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We asked a learner of English who's been studying in Britain
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if she'd heard, or uses, such language.
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I'm not sure whether I've heard 'tallish' or 'brownish',
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but I'm sure I've heard 'eight-ish' and 'five-ish'
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when a colleague's meant around eight o'clock and five o'clock.
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I think this kind of language sounds very natural.
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Now, before we go today,
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if you didn't quite catch all of Richard's Better Speaking tips, don't worry.
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Here's a chance to hear them again.
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To sound more natural when you speak English,
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remember you can use vague language:
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words and phrases which show that you're not sure.
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For example, if you're describing a film,
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you can say, it's a 'sort of' adventure film.
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Or you could say, it's a 'kind of' adventure film.
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I think it's very useful to employ some of this vague language when you're speaking,
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words like 'ish' or 'sort of' or 'kind of'.
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It's very useful and it can make you sound a more interesting,
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more natural kind of speaker.
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Another very useful and natural-sounding way
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to show that you're not able to be exact is to use the ending 'ish'.
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For example,
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My father's hair is 'greyish'. It's partly black and partly grey.
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It's 'greyish'.
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If you're not sure of an exact time, you can say,
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The party starts at eight-ish.
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It's the same as saying that the party starts at about eight o'clock.
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At eight-ish.
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Take a tip from ABBA and their fellow Swedes.
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Watch English language TV and films or listen to the radio or music in English.
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These will all help you
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to improve your spoken as well as general English language skills.
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Try to watch as much TV in English or listen to music in English
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and get as much exposure as possible.
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Maybe, if you do that, you're gonna get a wide range of vocabulary,
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you're gonna be fluent, you're gonna have good comprehension skills
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and good pronunciation and sound as good as ABBA.
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That was Talk About English from BBC Learning English dot com.
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