What chickens can teach us about hierarchies - 6 Minute English

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Neil: Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English, I'm Neil.
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Catherine: And I'm Catherine.
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Neil: Catherine, what's the connection between
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hierarchies, managers and chickens?
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Catherine: Well, I don't know Neil, but I'm, sure you're
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going to tell me.
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Neil: First of all, could you explain for our listeners
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what a hierarchy is?
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Catherine: Of course! A hierarchy is a way of organising
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people. For example, in a company, where there are
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people working at different levels. You've
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got bosses, managers and workers.
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The workers do the work and the managers have
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meetings that stop the workers doing the work!
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Neil: But where do the chickens come in?
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We'll find out shortly, but first here is today's question
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and it is – surprise, surprise – about chickens.
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What is the record number of eggs laid by one chicken
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in a year? Is it:
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a: 253
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b: 371
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or c: 426
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What do you think Catherine:?
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Catherine: Well, I think most chickens lay an egg once
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a day, so I think it's 371.
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Neil: Well, we will have an answer later in the
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programme.
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Now, for hierarchies and chickens.
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In the radio programme The Joy of 9 to 5,
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produced by Somethin' Else for the BBC,
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entrepreneur Margaret Heffernan
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described an experiment.
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In this experiment, researchers compared the
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egg production of a group of average chickens
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to a group of super-chickens.
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That's chickens with an above average egg production.
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Which was the most successful?
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Here's Margaret Heffernan, and by the way,
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the noun for a group of chickens is a flock.
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Margaret Heffernan: He compares the two flocks
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over six generations.
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The average flock just gets better and better and better.
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Egg production increases dramatically.
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The super-flock of super-chickens,
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at the end of six generations, all but three are dead,
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because the other three have killed the rest.
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They've achieved their individual
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productivity by suppressing the productivity of the rest.
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And that's what we do at work.
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Neil: Which flock was most successful?
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Catherine: Well, the super-flock actually killed each
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other, so it turned out that the average flock
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laid more eggs in total and was more successful.
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Neil: Yes, but why was that?
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Catherine: Well, the super-chickens must have seen
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their other flock members not as colleagues,
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but as competitors.
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Now to understand this, we have to start with the word
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'productivity'.
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This noun refers to the amount of work that's done.
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So, on an individual level, the super-chickens achieved
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productivity because they suppressed
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the productivity of their flock members.
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'Suppressed' here means they 'stopped the other
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chickens from being productive' by killing them.
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Neil: So, what do we learn from this experiment?
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Catherine: Well, Margaret Heffernan suggests that we
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see this kind of behaviour in the human workplace.
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When everyone is equal, productivity is high,
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but as soon as there's a hierarchy
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- as soon as there are managers -
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things can go wrong because not all managers see their
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role as making life easier for the workers.
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They demonstrate their productivity as managers,
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by interfering with the productivity of the workers.
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Neil: But there are other experiments which show
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that chickens are productive in a hierarchy.
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How are those hierarchies different though?
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Here's Margaret Heffernan again.
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Margaret Heffernan: So chickens have an inbuilt
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or, if you like, an inherited hierarchy - that's where we
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get the term 'pecking order' from.
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But it's one that they create among themselves,
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rather than one that's imposed upon them.
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Neil: So, which hierarchy works, at least for chickens?
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Catherine: Well, the best hierarchy is one that isn't
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imposed. That means a good hierarchy isn't
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forced on the chickens.
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They do well when they create the hierarchy themselves,
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naturally. They work out the pecking order themselves.
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Neil: 'Pecking order' is a great phrase.
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We use it to describe levels of importance in an
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organisation. The more important you are, the higher in
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the pecking order you are.
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Where does this phrase originate?
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Catherine: Well, 'pecking' describes what chickens do
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with their beaks.
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They hit or bite other chickens with them.
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And the most important or dominant chickens, peck
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all the others. The top chicken does all the pecking,
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middle-level chickens get pecked and do some pecking
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themselves, and some chickens are only pecked
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by other chickens.
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So, there is a definite pecking order in chickens.
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Neil: Right, time to review this week's vocabulary,
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but before that let's have the answer to the quiz.
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I asked what the record number of eggs
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laid by a single chicken in a year was.
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The options were:
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a: 253
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b: 371
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or c: 426
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What did you say, Catherine?
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Catherine: I said 371.
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Neil: Well, lucky you! You're definitely top of
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the pecking order, aren't you?
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Because you are right!
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Catherine: That's a lot of eggs!
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Neil: Indeed. Now, the vocabulary.
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We are talking about 'hierarchies'
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- a way to organise a society or workplace with
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different levels of importance.
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Catherine: An expression with a similar meaning is
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'pecking order', which relates to how important
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someone, or a chicken, is, within a hierarchy.
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Neil: A group of chickens is a 'flock'.
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It's also the general collective noun for birds as well,
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not just chickens.
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Catherine: Another of our words was the noun
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'productivity',
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which refers to 'the amount of work that is done'.
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Neil: And if you 'suppress' someone's productivity,
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you stop them from being as productive
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as they could be.
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Catherine: And finally, there was the verb to 'impose'.
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If you impose something, you force it on people.
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For example,
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the government imposed new taxes on fuel.
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Neil: Well that is the end of the programme. For
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See you soon, bye.
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Catherine: Bye!
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