The Climate Crisis Is Expensive – Here’s Who Should Pay for It | Avinash Persaud | TED

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The Climate Crisis Is Expensive – Here’s Who Should Pay for It | Avinash Persaud | TED

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I want to present to you the Bridgetown Initiative.
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It’s a pragmatic, ambitious plan to save the world
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that's been gaining surprising traction.
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I’m going to start with a “who,” move to the “what” and “where” we are.
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I came late to climate.
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I wasn't a skeptic.
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I'm an economist.
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We believe that if we don't value something well enough,
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we tend to overconsume it.
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I believe that.
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I just wasn't seized by a compulsion to do something about it myself
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until September 18, 2017.
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I was sitting in the departure lounge of JFK,
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waiting to go home to Bridgetown, Barbados,
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nursing a coffee,
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and my phone buzzes.
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And it's Mia Amor Mottley,
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college friend and then-leader of the opposition of Barbados.
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“Go to Dominica now,” she says. Our neighboring island.
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"They've just been smashed by Hurricane Maria.
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They need all the help they can get.
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Time for you to step into the shoes of that previous generation
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of influential development economists.
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Just like your dad."
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She's compassionate, super smart,
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and obviously a good politician
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because I am on a UN relief plane the next day,
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doing a hairpin turn to land on the emergency airstrip in Dominica.
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The pilot's last mission was dodging missiles in Syria,
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so I'm feeling fairly safe.
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I have my head wedged against the window transfixed of what's below.
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A hurricane can release the energy of 10,000 nuclear bombs.
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And below me is a nuclear wasteland.
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Pointing up towards me are a million thin white sticks.
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Takes me a moment to realize they’re trees stripped bare of all branches,
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leaves and bark.
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When we land,
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I’m assaulted by the smell of burning and decomposition.
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And something else it takes me a while longer to work out.
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I'm on a tropical island,
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normally teeming with birds and insects and color,
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in deathly, monochrome silence.
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The birds have gone.
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The land is emptied.
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Later, Dominica's Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit says,
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"Dominicans have lost everything money can buy
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in four hours."
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The government's job was to make them feel that what was left
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was the valuable stuff --
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community, family, hope -- and to help them repair.
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Because if despair set in,
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then a bad, bad situation would get worse.
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Early on I work out that the way to get recovery funds flowing
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is to make Dominica matter to the world.
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So Dominica declares they will rebuild
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as the world's first climate-resilient nation.
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They dust themselves off, stand tall and resolute,
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and invite the world's experts in.
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Turns out, the Dominicans have the real insights.
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We made a list of all the things they had to do
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in the immediate aftermath of the disaster
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and asked what would they have to do now
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so they wouldn't have to do that next time around.
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And the answers kept on heading higher.
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Energy and health resilient systems.
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National and regional food security
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and then the global,
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because there's no real alternative to halting climate change.
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And that's why the world's biggest plan, the Bridgetown Initiative,
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comes partly from the world's smallest countries.
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And it actually makes even more sense to that,
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because tropical places are where temperatures,
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droughts and sea levels will rise to their highest, most extreme levels.
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We are the canaries in the mine
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and we can see there's no point gasping for air for ourselves.
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We have to save the mine.
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And we can also see what’s getting in the way,
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because whilst most people believe climate change is here
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and happening and urgent,
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they also believe someone else should be doing more about it.
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Rich countries are electrifying, shifting, reducing,
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so much so that the majority of greenhouse gas emissions,
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63 percent and climbing,
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are now coming from developing countries.
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There is now no pathway
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to avoid the world's destabilizing planetary systems
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without the green transformation of developing countries.
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The rich say to the poor,
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"You need to ban emissions, tax carbon,
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shift into renewables and get with the program."
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But that would slow the growth of developing countries.
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They'd have to borrow a lot at very high interest rates
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to invest in the new, decommission the old,
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find new jobs for old coal miners and more.
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And why should they?
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The rich cause global warming.
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They're responsible for 70 percent
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of the stock of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere
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for using up 60 percent of the world's carbon budget.
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You can't scoff 60 percent of the cake and then say afterwards,
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"Well, we all need to cut back now."
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(Laughter)
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Don't cement inequality.
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(Applause)
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"Don't cement inequality," the poor say, "Send aid."
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The problem is that all of the aid in the world
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will not fund one twelfth of the green transformation
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in developing countries.
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And rich-country governments are not getting elected
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to send money to foreigners.
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They're getting elected to deport foreigners.
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So we're stuck, staring at each other,
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pointing fingers whilst the world burns.
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I figured that the way to break this impasse
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is if we stop only looking at ourselves
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and make the cost of resilience so cheap,
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the flow of finance after a disaster so immediate,
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the green transformation of developing countries so profitable,
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that we turn reluctance into a scramble.
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There's no extra time.
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We're on countdown.
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And that is the essence of the Bridgetown Initiative.
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During COVID and the global financial crisis,
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rich countries purchased 24 trillion dollars
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of bonds to pump their economy.
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If instead, they'd purchased 24 trillion dollars of bonds
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that finance renewable energies,
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we would have had the same economic impact
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and be halfway to halting climate change already.
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And we would have reduced our inflationary dependence
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on oil and coal,
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all within 12 years.
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The power of what we can do when it matters to us is unlimited.
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So here's the financing plan
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that does not rely on the altruism of financiers and insurers,
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is not based on some unproven tech
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and does not skirt around our common but different responsibilities.
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Picture three buckets.
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Small, medium and large.
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The smallest is actually the hardest to fund.
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It's all of those things that don't generate any savings or profits.
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It's rebuilding the homes of low-income families
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that are being washed away by climate events.
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It's rebuilding, recovering their livelihoods,
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their clinics, their schools.
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And climate change, remember,
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is the increasing certainty of rising losses.
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It's uninsurable.
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So we need new sources of public finance.
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We need new emission taxes on oil and coal and methane.
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At the Mottley-Macron Summit in June in Paris,
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we made some progress towards taxing emissions on the shipping industry.
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We need more.
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And we need a small financial transaction tax,
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like the one you don't even realize you're paying today,
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that covers the cost of the US SEC.
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And energy and finance consumption is slanted to the rich.
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The second bucket is for those things that don't generate revenues
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but generate immediate savings.
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If I invest a dollar of borrowed money on stronger seawalls,
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more muscular flood defenses, more resilient health systems,
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I save several dollars.
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So we need the international multilateral development banks,
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like the World Bank,
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to lend three times more on the Sustainable Development Goals
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and to make that debt cheap by making it longer and lower-cost.
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They can get halfway there
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by using the resources they already have.
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They're very conservative.
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And the other half,
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they need rich countries to put in a little bit more capital.
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Now, some people criticize me for saying,
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why are you going for cheap loans rather than grants?
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And I say, if you found a trillion dollars stuffed behind the sofa, then OK.
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But grants will never be enough.
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And so let's focus our grants on those things
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that can't be funded any other way
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because there's no savings and profits.
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The final bucket,
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the biggest bucket, is for those things for which there is a revenue attached.
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But before I go to that, on the second bucket at Paris,
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at the Motley-Macron Summit,
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we got a commitment of an extra 20 billion dollars of lending a year,
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a start.
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The third bucket, the biggest, revenue.
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Solar farms, wind turbines,
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they make money whilst reducing greenhouse gases.
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In the rich countries,
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81 percent of that is funded by the private sector.
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If we want developing countries to move faster than rich countries do,
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then we want those investors to go to the developing world.
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They don't today
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because of the high cost of guaranteeing their returns
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against the fluctuation of currencies.
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However, history shows
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that an international agency capitalized by rich countries
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that takes a diversified view across time and countries
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can lower the cost without losing money ...
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by enough to unblock the flow of investments.
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And a small group of countries have agreed to move on a pilot this year.
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Three buckets: small one for costs,
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middle one for savings,
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big one for revenues.
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There are a couple of things we also need to do that doesn't cost money.
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We need Barbados-style pause clauses in all debt instruments.
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When a disaster hits, you suspend --
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your interest payments and debt repayments are suspended for two years,
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added back on to later when you can afford it.
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It will release billions of dollars and reshape the financial system.
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And as Prime Minister Mottley says,
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if we want these institutions that were set up in the colonial era,
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if we want to trust them to save the world,
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then the people they serve cannot be invisible in the halls of power.
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(Applause)
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So the impasse is cracking.
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I got on that plane to Dominica because of my dad.
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Not because of his profession, but because he was a dad.
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I remember asking him once,
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when I was being asked to join an unpopular cause
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that was going to hurt my career,
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and I was half hoping he would say, "No, son, that's silly."
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Instead, he said gently,
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"Avi, you've got to be a player in this life."
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So here I am.
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Please join us.
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(Applause)
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