How to Solve the World’s Biggest Problems | Natalie Cargill | TED

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I'd like to start with a true anecdote,
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which is that my friends have genuinely asked me
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to stop sharing facts about wheat to our group chat.
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I know, what’s wrong with them? They must be mad.
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But to be fair to them,
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they have been hearing a lot lately about wheat,
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wheat-related innovation,
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how it was funded by philanthropists,
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and how it might have saved a billion lives.
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So I'd love to share this story with you now
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as I’m here to talk about the huge
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and I think still largely hidden potential of philanthropy
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to completely transform our world.
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After World War II,
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the global population shot up
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and it really wasn't clear how we were going to grow enough food
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to feed everybody.
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In lots of places, the soil was completely depleted of nutrients,
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lots of the crops that did grow were destroyed by disease
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and the situation got really bad.
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By the 1960s, scientists were saying mass famine is inevitable.
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Millions of people might die.
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However, what they failed to fully take into account
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was the fact that decades before this,
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philanthropists had already started funding research
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into how we could improve crop yields in really difficult conditions.
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The team was led by this man, Norman Borlaug,
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and he worked in collaboration with the Mexican government.
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They made some really incredible innovations.
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So first they made the wheat grains about three times bigger,
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which was amazing because they were massive.
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It wasn't perfect, however, because they kind of fell over.
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They then made the stems of the wheat much shorter and stronger,
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which was ideal because they were massive and didn't fall over.
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Great situation to be in.
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So after much of what I now call wheat-related YMCA,
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the team were able to develop really robust,
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disease-resistant and incredibly high-yield crops.
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This new way of doing things spread throughout the entire world
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and the results were quite literally miraculous.
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Entire countries came back from the brink of famine.
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Global cereal production as a whole tripled in just 50 years.
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And our friend Norman was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1970.
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I really love this story.
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Not because it was the foolproof solution to global hunger,
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because of course it wasn’t,
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and actually it was fraught with problems of its own,
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but because it demonstrates two really important ideas
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that I think we're neglecting to apply to improving the world today.
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One, it's pretty simple.
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Huge problems can be solved
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with the right amount of investment and cooperation.
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The second
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is that philanthropy at its best
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is one of the most transformative tools we have
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to bring about that improvement.
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Now, I say at its best,
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because I imagine you all know about philanthropy at its worst.
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At its worst, it can be little more than a tool
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in the hands of the ultra wealthy
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to manage their own status or their own power.
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It can have very little regard for what's actually needed
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or what actually works.
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Philanthropy at its best, however,
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is still one of the most powerful tools we have,
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especially when it can step in
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and do the things that governments can't do
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and markets won't do.
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And this is exactly what happened with Norman and the Green Revolution.
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Philanthropic funding to the tune of 100,000 dollars a year
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from the Rockefeller Foundation in the '40s
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in combination with government support,
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was what we needed to get the project going.
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If we'd had to wait for governments to take on all of that research
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and all of the funding,
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bearing in mind that governments tend to move slowly
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and bearing in mind that extremely poor governments
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don't tend to have an extremely large amount of money,
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we might have been waiting for a really long time.
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Similarly, if we'd had to wait for private sector investors
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to take on all that risk themselves,
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bearing in mind they probably thought
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they had more profitable things to be doing,
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we also might have been waiting a really long time.
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Philanthropy was the thing that could come in,
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speed things up and maybe save millions of lives.
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And the final incredible fact about this story
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is I had a really, really hard time choosing to tell it to you today,
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because history is full of these hidden philanthropic success stories.
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For example,
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I could have equally told you about the pioneering suffragette
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and philanthropist Katharine McCormick,
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who single-handedly funded the development of the contraceptive pill.
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I could have told you about how 80 million Americans came together
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to fund the eradication of polio,
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or about how just two foundations funded conferences
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at the end of the Cold War
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that dramatically reduced the nuclear stockpile.
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So bearing in mind what we can take from all of this
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are simple ideas: huge problems can be solved,
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philanthropy can be transformative.
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I'd like to invite all of you here today
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to go through a thought experiment with me.
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And as I say, it's my favorite type of experiment
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because it's just really cheap to fund.
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OK, thought experiment is this.
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We're all philanthropists.
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We want to bring about transformative change,
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maybe even on the scale of the Green Revolution.
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To do this,
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we want to start by tackling some of our largest and most solvable
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and our most neglected problems of all time.
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And I want you to, if you can, imagine something really crazy.
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We actually have a massive pile of cash to do this with.
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I know.
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Now, you might be thinking the eternal question,
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where are we going to get a massive pile of cash?
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And I agree, you know, you rarely find them lying around anymore, sadly.
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But I do have a proposal.
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The one percent.
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If everyone in the global top one percent of earners
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gave away just 10 percent of their income,
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or if they are particularly wealthy
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and this would be more money,
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gave away just 2.5 percent of their net worth,
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we would have an additional 3.5 trillion dollars to improve the world.
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Now, this is a good number.
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It's a decent amount of money, I agree.
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OK, this is 3.5 trillion
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over and above the one trillion that already goes to charity.
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And -- this is a surprising bit --
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if you're earning over 60,000 dollars a year after tax,
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assuming you're a single person bringing that home after tax,
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you are in the global one percent.
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This is not to say that everyone bringing home 60K
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can afford to give away 10 percent
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because I absolutely see that is not the case.
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However, it is to say that global inequality is really, really extreme.
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OK, and as a final note, yes, this is just a made-up thought experiment,
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but I think it can shine a real light on what we can do in monetary terms,
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what it would take to solve some of our real problems in the real world.
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So everything I'm about to share
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is the result of extremely real research by experts at places like the World Bank,
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the United Nations
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and my co-founder Simran Dhaliwal is here tonight,
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our own much smaller non-profit, Longview Philanthropy.
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So,
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what could we do with one year of the one percent giving 10 percent?
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Let's find out.
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For 260 billion dollars,
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we could ensure that nobody lives below the extreme poverty line for the year.
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That line is incredibly low.
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It's 2.15 dollars a day
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and one in 12 people currently live below that line.
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One solution to this is really simple and really effective.
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In fact, it's so simple, people are sometimes confused by it.
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Why don't we give money directly to the poorest people in the world?
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There's a very conveniently named organization that does this
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called GiveDirectly.
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Over 300 studies have been done on this type of cash transfer,
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and the studies show that this works.
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And it works because fundamentally people know what they need,
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particularly when they're extremely poor.
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Like Bahati, for example.
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With her transfer, she bought a tank to store rainwater,
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livestock and her first mattress.
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And the fact that people know what they need
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is also the reason that cash transfers often do more
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to boost education than building schools.
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They often do more to support businesses than business training
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and they often do more to improve nutrition
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than all kinds of food programs.
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People don't need to be "taught to fish."
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We need to end that meme now.
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People are capable of fishing and investing
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and a whole lot else
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once they're not trapped in completely debilitating poverty.
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(Applause)
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For 300 billion dollars
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we could massively reduce the risk of the next pandemic.
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And honestly, what concerns me
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is that the next one is going to be even worse.
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And the reason is this.
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It's currently possible
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for somebody with the right type of experience in bioengineering
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to go on the internet, to order the DNA necessary
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to reconstruct the smallpox virus --
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and as you'll know,
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smallpox is a horrendous disease that we've eradicated --
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to reconstruct that virus
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and to release it into the world.
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This is not some wild conjecture or some theory.
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This is what scientists are warning us about
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and what studies on similar viruses are showing could be possible now.
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We are not prepared for this.
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We're not even prepared for the next natural pandemic.
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Here are some things we could do.
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First, we could set up a screening program to track sewage and wastewater
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for the early signs of the next potential pandemic.
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Then we could upgrade existing lab facilities worldwide
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to ensure that anyone who needs a new vaccine
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can get it within six months.
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Then we stockpile enough super effective super PPE
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to cover every single essential worker in the world,
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not just people in rich countries.
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And we can also invest into research,
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into germicidal light and other technologies
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that could literally kill viruses in the air
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before we breathe them in.
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It's really early days,
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but a breakthrough here could mean the end of airborne disease.
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For 840 billion dollars
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we can double what we spend on clean energy research and development
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and really speed up progress to end climate change.
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Clean energy R and D has been so effective so far.
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Over the last 10 years,
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the price of wind energy is down by 50 percent
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and the price of solar energy is down by an incredible 90 percent.
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One thing we can do now is build on this and start a clean energy sprint.
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So yes, wind and yes, solar,
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but also nuclear, also geothermal.
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Also better ways of storing the energy we do create
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and better ways of removing existing carbon from the air,
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particularly right at the point where it's emitted.
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For now, very minuscule-looking, mere two billion dollars,
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an investment here, an endowment here,
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could permanently quadruple philanthropic spending
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to reduce nuclear risk.
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That is less per year than what we spend on novelty socks.
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(Laughter)
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Nuclear risk is almost the highest it's ever been.
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Right now, thousands of warheads,
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each capable of killing hundreds of thousands of people,
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are set on high alert.
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We know that the early warning systems that should alert us to incoming attacks
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have a massive history of false alarms,
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which creates a huge risk of an accidental nuclear strike.
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And we know in the event a potential strike is incoming,
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the US president would have just 15 minutes to decide how to respond.
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And we know that the US has actually really good early warning systems,
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comparatively speaking.
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This situation is absolutely insane.
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Even if you think that living in a world without nukes is not feasible
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or not even desirable,
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there are safer ways to live in a world with nukes than this.
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And because this is such a neglected area,
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even a tiny amount of philanthropic funding would go a really long way
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to getting the better policies we need.
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(Applause)
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Thank you.
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For one billion dollars
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we could increase tenfold the philanthropic money
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going towards AI safety.
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Bit of light relief because you're about to need it,
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that's less per year than what we spend on toys for pets.
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This little one here is actually my dog
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and I think I'm quite a decent chunk of that one billion, if I'm honest.
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(Laughter)
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So, as you know,
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top AI labs around the world are currently deliberately trying to create AI systems
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that are smarter than humans at everything humans do
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and then some and then some, because it won't stop there.
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They're funded by tech money from the likes of Google and Microsoft,
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and most AI researchers think that in the coming years or decades,
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they're going to succeed.
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What's going to happen then?
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We don't know.
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Which is terrifying
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because even with the relatively simple systems we have today,
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like ChatGPT,
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companies didn't know how they were going to behave in the real world
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until they've released them publicly onto the internet.
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And yes, they've done some brilliantly helpful things,
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but they've also done some much less brilliantly helpful things
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like threaten to kill people,
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threaten to hack into people's emails and blackmail them.
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Now, fortunately, ChatGPT is not an existential risk.
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But as these systems rapidly become more and more powerful,
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this way of doing things is going to rapidly become
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more and more deeply unsafe.
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We need to put pressure on these companies to slow down,
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and when the time is right, to maybe even stop.
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OK.
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So we have quite a lot of our budget left.
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Let’s speed things up and see what we can do
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not just to survive this century, but to thrive in it.
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We could fund a 13-year plan
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to ensure that everybody has access to clean water
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and sanitation once and for all.
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We could provide the additional funding needed
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to make sure that hunger and malnutrition are gone within a decade.
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We could give women control over their reproductive health
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and fund free contraceptive --
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Thank you.
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Free contraceptive, maternal and newborn care
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for every woman who needs it for at least five years.
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We could fund the plan to end factory farming entirely by 2050.
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We could massively suppress or even eradicate
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the 20 neglected tropical diseases,
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which tend to affect the poorest billion in the world
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and tend to be incredibly cheap and easy to treat.
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And we could massively suppress or even eradicate malaria, tuberculosis and HIV.
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(Applause)
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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We're not doomed.
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We don't need to resign ourselves or our loved ones
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or our fellow humans or future generations
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to unnecessary and avoidable suffering,
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because we really can solve our biggest problems.
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And we don't need to throw away one of the most powerful tools
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we have to solve them,
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because philanthropy really can be transformative.
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And I think the thing to remember
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is that everything I've gone through today,
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it's not a complete list of the world's problems.
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It is one option for what we could do with one year's worth of funding
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from the one percent giving just 10 percent.
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Imagine what we could do in year two.
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Thank you.
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(Applause and cheers)
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Anna Verghese: Alright.
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There is so much to get excited about.
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So you did reference the people earning 60K,
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maybe it's not as realistic to imagine committing 10 percent,
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but I love to turn a thought experiment or an idea into actions.
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So how do we get even close to that 3.1 trillion number?
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What do you think we need to do?
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Natalie Cargill: First of all, to reiterate that, it's not practical,
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and there shouldn't be an exercise in, you know, making people feel guilty
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or that they should do things they can't afford.
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I think two things really help in terms of increasing donations.
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One is just information on global inequality.
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I think people think of the one percent in terms of rich countries
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and just being aware that what’s not extravagantly wealthy in rich countries
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is actually very wealthy in global terms.
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And I think the second thing is having options and having information.
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I think a lot of people, most people are incredibly generous
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and do want to improve the world,
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but it's not easy to navigate all the different options.
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And so one thing we try and do
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is just share this information as widely as we can.
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AV: So talk about information.
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You mentioned GiveDirectly as a great organization.
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They're an Audacious grantee that we gave money to
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during the COVID pandemic
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and highly endorse sending your money that way.
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Are there any other ideas,
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organizations that you have researched that people can get access to?
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NC: Yes.
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Seconding GiveDirectly is amazing.
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I think for people giving,
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considering that something of a benchmark can be really helpful.
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Another organization I'd really recommend people check out is called GiveWell.
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So they're not a charity themselves.
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They evaluate all kinds of global health interventions
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to see which ones are kind of the best recipients,
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if you're interested in global health and development.
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Also, if you go to longview.org/pledge,
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you can see all of the research that we we put together for this talk
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and for each area we break down where we've got the estimate from
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and where you can donate if you're interested.
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AV: Wonderful, thank you Natalie.
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NC: Thank you all so much.
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(Applause)
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