The Danger and Devotion of Fighting for Women in Afghanistan | Tamana Ayazi | TED

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Kat Craig: Tamana, welcome.
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It's so wonderful to have you here today.
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Thank you for joining us.
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We're going to be talking about your directorial feature debut
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"In Her Hands."
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I can't wait to hear all about that process
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of making such a beautiful film.
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But before we start, can you tell us a little bit
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about what it was like when you were younger in Afghanistan,
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what it was like growing up?
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Tamana Ayazi: Thank you so much. It's lovely to be here with you.
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Some of the good memories I have from my childhood
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[are] being able to play soccer on the street with boys, with my friends.
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And also I used to have a bike.
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I used to go out every evening with my friends
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to bring groceries,
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to just go, you know, spend some time together
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and just be there and exist.
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KC: And that very active life has continued for you.
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I know that you started making films
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at a really young age,
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when you were still in high school, is that right?
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TA: Yes, I was in 11th grade when I started.
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I was part of a program
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called Citizen Journalism and Documentary Filmmaking,
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and I was representing my hometown, Mazar, north of Afghanistan.
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And that’s how I started making films.
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And it was -- we were supposed to make one documentary,
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one short documentary per month from pre-production to post-production.
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And we were very excited about that.
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And it opened other doors.
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I was able to go to the places I have never been
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and I was able to meet people, communicate,
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listen to them and try to tell their stories.
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KC: Let's talk a little bit about "In Her Hands."
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Can you summarize a little bit about what the film is about
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and why you chose to tell that story?
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TA: The film is about a strong woman
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who was trying to make a change in her community.
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And like many other Afghans from my generation,
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Zarifa Ghafari was trying to make a change in her own hometown
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of Maidan Shar, Maidan Wardak.
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And she was quite famous in Afghanistan,
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so I was really curious to know about her more.
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So that's how I visited her.
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And then we were trying to make a film not only about who Zarifa was,
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but also the country itself.
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So we tried to include other characters to be able to tell a story of the country,
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not only one person.
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And the journey of the country
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towards 2021.
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(Video) Zarifa Ghafari: In the name of Allah. May God protect us.
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Driver: I’m Mayor Zarifa Ghafari’s driver, and I guard her 24/7.
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And I'm very happy
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to be serving a woman
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who so completely serves her country
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and her people.
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ZG: After we pass these deserts, we’ll feel safer.
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Slow down. Drive slowly.
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Cars are heading towards us.
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(Horn blares)
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Driver: I drive above the speed limit,
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one hand on the steering wheel, one on my pistol,
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because the road I drive Zarifa on every day
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between Kabul and Maidan Shar is controlled by the Taliban.
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She is a champion for me and our people.
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I live every second of my life with the memory of her.
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KC: So the film spans a period --
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I think you started working on the project in 2020
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and Zarifa, the main character,
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is the youngest female mayor in Afghanistan,
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in the capital city of a province
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that has always had a strong Taliban presence.
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And you did go out and you filmed in the mountains with the Taliban.
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You said earlier that one of your favorite parts of filmmaking
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is talking with people and telling their stories.
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It must have been difficult meeting people whose views you don't share.
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Tell us a little bit about how you managed to build those relationships
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and how you were able to film there.
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TA: I think filmmaking and storytelling is more about listening to people,
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understanding them, no matter how different they are.
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So this is how --
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When we started working on this documentary, "In Her Hands,"
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that's how it started.
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So with Zarifa, for me, it was easier because she was a woman,
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she was from my own generation
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and we were trying to make a change in our communities,
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using different tools or different ways.
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But then also we thought that's important to include also the Taliban,
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because there was peace talks going on between the US government and the Taliban,
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but Afghans were not included.
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And we, as Afghan woman,
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knew that we will be more affected than anyone
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if there is any change in the country,
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especially if Taliban will come back to power.
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KC: When you met with some of the senior leadership
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in the region of the Taliban,
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how did they respond to you?
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Were you able to have conversations
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and did their opinion of you,
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do you think, change over the course of the filming?
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TA: When I first started contacting the Taliban,
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so basically we did it through the leadership.
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We contacted them to be able to go there and film them.
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It took us some time, they did not respond to messages on time.
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So it took us weeks and months to get permission.
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But then once I was there, because I was a woman,
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and then after -- they said after 25 or more years,
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there was an Afghan filmmaker, a woman on the mountains with them.
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So they were quite shocked to see me there.
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So when I was doing the first interview, they tried to not look at me.
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But then I remember by the time they started,
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you know, being more comfortable.
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And then at the end, I remember when I was saying goodbye
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to one of the leaders, one of the commanders,
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he was blushing and he wanted to shake hands with me.
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And then that time I wasn't sure. I was like, what will happen?
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Because I see all these other Taliban commanders and Taliban soldiers,
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and they had their guns with them.
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So I was like, what if I shake hands and something happens to me?
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And I remember our local producer who visited Taliban so many times before,
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he kept saying, "Tamana, be careful, don't do that."
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So, yeah.
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KC: And did you shake his hand?
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TA: He didn't want to do that at the end. So yeah, we left at that.
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KC: Yeah.
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(Video) Solider 1: The government has failed the people of Afghanistan.
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Ask the people here whether the government has done anything for them.
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Solider 2: We are from this country, and we will serve it.
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Solider 3: Brave Mujahideen!
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Solider 4: Until we establish Islamic rule across the whole planet,
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we will not surrender to anyone.
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I have been put here to fight people.
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I have been instructed to kill people.
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To destroy people, behead people.
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Until they believe there is no god but Allah.
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Musafer: I’ve fought in these mountains since the US invasion in 2001.
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Look at me, I am 36 years old,
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but everyone thinks I am 40 or 50 years old.
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KC: This is with the same people who were sending written death threats to Zarifa,
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the main character in the film,
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as early as 2017.
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Tell us a bit about the risks that both she and you faced
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working in a province that had such a strong Taliban presence.
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TA: It just came back. I can still feel it.
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It was not an easy experience
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because you know that any moment you might get killed.
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And there were times when we filmed at night,
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days and nights in Maidan Wardak,
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I was with her
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and there was fighting going on between [the] Afghan army and the Taliban.
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And also, whenever we were in the car,
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I remember she used to hold my hand really tight,
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saying that “Tamana, what if there is a sticky bomb in this side of the car
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or that side of the car?”
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But, you know, when you're going through so many crises,
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you find ways to deal with it.
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And then we try to remember the good things
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about, you know, being there.
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And then I used to say that, "Zarifa, we are very close to Kabul."
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It happened most of the time on the way between Maidan Wardak and Kabul.
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Or I remember when we were in the city
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and we lost a few friends in Taliban sticky bombs explosions.
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And we were down most of the time,
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but that doesn’t mean that there was no life.
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We found ways to deal with it.
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We found ways to be happy.
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We found ways to find solutions, at least to raise our voice.
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I remember we did campaigns.
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We did protests to --
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make people, our leaders, and the world leaders,
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listen to what was happening and what was waiting for us in the future.
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But unfortunately, I think we ended up where none of us were ready.
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(Video) ZG: Whenever I meet people from different communities,
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I ask them to educate their children
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because education is the only way out of this situation in Afghanistan.
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Hello, how are you? Are you well?
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We thank you for coming here.
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Thank you.
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Our girls do study. There...
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There are some classes.
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ZG: As a girl, I studied. I have a bachelor’s and a master’s degree.
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When I was studying, I had to walk an hour each way to my school in Paktika.
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There were many suicide attacks and fights.
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My father told me not to go anymore.
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So I started going to school secretly.
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I was going to school in secret after he went to the office.
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It was my lifetime dream
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to see that my parents are proud
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of my reputation and my achievements.
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So please educate your daughters and send them to school.
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If you educate one girl or woman, you save ten generations.
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KC: You spoke about how many women in Afghanistan
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were actively campaigning
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to continue to move forward and not to fall back into old ways.
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As the filming progressed and you realized that the Taliban were gaining power
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and more likely to come back to a position of strength,
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how did that feel for you and Zarifa?
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Did it change when you were in villages and cities?
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Could you tell there was something different in the air?
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TA: Whenever I was in Kabul,
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I was not able to see the change
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because everything was OK.
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Everything was alright.
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But whenever I went to the villages, to other provinces ...
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And I remember coming back, I came with a lot of information,
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but I was not really able to tell even my own family.
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I didn't want my sisters to be scared of the future.
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I didn't want my mother to be scared of her future and my future.
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And if I have told them that,
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OK, I saw that these things were happening in the provinces,
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especially meeting Taliban,
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I knew that they were progressing.
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And I remember whenever I went to other provinces in the past,
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I wasn't really sure about it
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but it was eye-opening to see all, you know,
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the Taliban, people like me,
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ordinary Afghans,
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all of us, we were trying to build a country in our own ways,
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but ended up destroying the whole country.
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And the --
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The flags changed when we crossed from one territory to another territory.
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There was a republic flag, and then there was [a] Taliban flag.
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So we knew that there is a difference.
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And I remember, Zarifa and I, and other friends, female friends,
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we talked about it a lot.
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We were like, we need to push for it. We need to do something to change it.
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We knew, we had the fear in our heart that Taliban might come back,
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but we thought they will be part of the government.
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And the way it happened --
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when the government collapsed,
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it was not only the government, it was --
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the people, full of hopes and dreams.
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And the future collapsed in front of us and we couldn't do anything about it.
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We did have fear, but we didn't know that it would end up the way it did.
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KC: And eventually it got so bad
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that Zarifa had to leave, she left.
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She came back. She had to leave again.
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You have had to leave.
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And it's something that very few people have to make those difficult decisions.
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It must have taken a lot.
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Do you plan to go back if you can?
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Would you return?
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TA: After Toronto for one week my heart was really calm
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and I was thinking about it,
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because since I left Afghanistan, the fire was there, you know?
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And when I left, I left my soul in Afghanistan with my loved ones,
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with my country, with my homeland,
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with everything I had and built for all these years.
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The way we left, we didn’t know that it [would] happen.
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And I remember when I left, I did not say bye to my loved ones.
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I still remember my family.
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I still remember my friends.
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I told them that, you know, this is not a goodbye.
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I cannot say goodbye.
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You don't know what will happen.
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I will come back.
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I will go to the airport.
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I don’t know [if] it will happen or not.
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I will be back.
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And I was making excuses because I didn't want to leave my country.
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That was home. That was everything.
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Yeah, I kept my passport.
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But yeah, that's what keeps me alive.
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And people might have different dreams.
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Some people might think that, OK, I want to travel.
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I want to make the best fun, I want to do this and that.
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But my biggest dream is to go back to Afghanistan
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and live the way I used to live.
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KC: We all hope that that will happen sooner rather than later.
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But for now, we know that the situation is very difficult for many women.
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You came to Europe
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and even here we've spoken about the everyday sexism
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that you experience
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and how exhausting it is to educate men
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on issues around gender equality.
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Are there parallels?
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Do you see any opportunities for us to learn from each other?
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Because I know many people in the audience will feel your pain
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and recognize that exhaustion.
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How do we learn from each other?
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How do we work together as women globally to create change?
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TA: Sexism is everywhere
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and we need to come together to work on it.
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But the only thing I would say [is] that it’s tiring and exhausting,
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but we should not give up. We cannot stop.
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KC: Absolutely.
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TA: So we need to have solidarity,
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to work on it together, to push for it.
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KC: And hearing stories like yours, like Zarifa,
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there's an amazing line in the documentary
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where we follow her
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in such extraordinarily difficult circumstances
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and she's constantly under threat.
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And she says, "Well, men have had 40-50 years to get this right
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and they haven't yet done it right.
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So I'm not going to give up."
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Is that representative of the spirits of many women
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that you encountered in Afghanistan?
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TA: The spirit of almost all the women I know in my country,
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including my grandmother, my mother, my friends.
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All of us.
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Because, yeah, war is ugly.
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And it was the men who created the war.
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It was the men who made peace.
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We always pushed for it.
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But then there was no space for us [at] the table,
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no matter how hard we pushed for it.
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But it doesn't mean that we give up and it's done.
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And we are, you know ... We made peace with that.
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It was the spirit of the whole country.
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It still is.
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And it is the women who are [the] resistance in Afghanistan today.
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They were protesting in solidarity with Iranian women in Kabul,
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in front of [the] Iranian embassy.
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So yeah, I think the future is female.
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It's us.
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And we are the ones who can make change because we don't fight.
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We don't care about ego.
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We care about solutions.
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KC: So all of the people listening today, inspired by your story,
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by the strength of women in Afghanistan,
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what can we do to support the struggle?
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You said solidarity is key to change, and I couldn't agree more.
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How do we work together?
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What can we do to keep the plight of women in Afghanistan in the news
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and to make sure that one day you're able to return
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and do the wonderful work that you've been doing?
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TA: I think women in Afghanistan need solidarity more than anything right now.
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I remember I was interviewing women who were protesting
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because I was working on research for Amnesty International.
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And whenever we talked,
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I was asking them why they started protesting
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and they said that, "Tamana, we lost everything we had.
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We are not able to work.
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We are not able to go out without a mahram, a man, family member,
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and we are not able to move freely,
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travel to other provinces, to countries outside Afghanistan
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without a man."
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So it means that Taliban do not count women as humans or equal to men.
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So there should be a man to validate that they exist.
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And they say that, "We lost everything we had.
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And that's why we are fighting.
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We are not afraid to die,
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but it makes us happy
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and encourages us
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when we see women, no matter Afghans, non-Afghans
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from outside the country,
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supporting us.
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And that's all we need."
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And they were thanking me all the time for doing the interviews.
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And they were like, "You listen to us and it's important for us."
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So there is a need to come together and support the woman in Afghanistan,
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in Iran, or any part of the world,
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because all we fight for is our basic human rights.
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I think it's really important to support the woman in Afghanistan
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or any other part of the world who are fighting for their basic rights.
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It's 2022.
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I know that women, we as women, we are political.
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Our bodies are political.
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Our opinions, whatever we say, whatever we do is political.
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Women get criticized more than men,
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and no matter in which field.
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And it's really important for all of us,
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no matter where in the world,
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to support those women protesting on the streets in Kabul
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and other provinces of Afghanistan.
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And one of the ways we can do this,
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we can open a conversation about Afghanistan,
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so it's on the news again.
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So people talk about it
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and we don't forget what's happening there.
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I know that I was the lucky one who is here now, who is able to work.
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But I also know that it was painful to leave.
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But for them, because they are fighting,
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they need our support, solidarity.
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And we need to put pressure on our governments,
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no matter where in the world,
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to change the policies,
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to put pressure on the Taliban,
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to change their policies and make a change.
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KC: I think people can start by watching "In Her Hands."
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It really is a beautiful film.
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It's incredibly compelling.
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And for me I found there were threads of hope in there.
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So I think watching the film,
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understanding this incredible strength of the women of Afghanistan,
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will inspire many, many people.
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And hopefully they will step up and show that solidarity
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and continue to raise awareness of the issue.
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You no doubt will continue to do so.
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I know you have more films, I think, that you're hoping to make in the future.
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And we're just very, very lucky
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to have you, such a wonderful and compelling storyteller,
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to shine a light on this issue
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and educate us all so that we can stand in solidarity.
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So thank you.
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It's been wonderful listening to you today.
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Thank you, Tamana.
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TA: Thank you.
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