How to Recognize Privilege — and Uplift Those Without It | Mariam Veiszadeh | TED

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2023-02-07 ・ TED


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How to Recognize Privilege — and Uplift Those Without It | Mariam Veiszadeh | TED

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Anyone who knows me knows that I love to talk.
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I'm a chatterbox, just ask anyone.
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I like to think that I'm pretty good at building rapport with my clients.
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And having spent just under a decade working as a lawyer,
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I tell you, this is one skill that really came in handy.
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Now, I remember this one interstate client in particular.
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We got on like a house on fire.
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We spent months corresponding over email and chatting over the phone.
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And then the day finally came when we would meet face to face.
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So I walk into the meeting room,
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and there she is.
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I say hello,
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and she kind of gives me this odd look.
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And she says,
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"Oh, you must work for Mariam."
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(Audience murmurs)
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And I'm thinking, "What does she mean?"
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And then it dawns on me.
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She must think
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I'm the legal secretary or the assistant perhaps.
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Not that there's anything wrong with having those jobs.
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But it seems that in her mind,
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the voice that she's heard on the phone all these months
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doesn't seem to correspond
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to the person standing in front of her.
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Rather unconvincingly at that point, I say,
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"No, I am Mariam."
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And then I start to doubt myself.
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And all those months of rapport building just goes down the drain at that point
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as I start again from scratch to win her over.
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I do, of course, eventually win her over,
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but it was a lot of time and effort wasted
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and ultimately, yet another hit to my confidence.
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And the thing is,
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I have other experiences like that one.
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And I know plenty of other folks who do too.
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So today I want to reflect on how stereotyping,
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unconscious bias and societal privilege operates in such a way
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that creates an unequal playing field for diverse minority groups.
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Now, let us start with privilege.
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Privilege is basically unearned advantage.
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Hey, what the hell, we really didn't do much to earn it.
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It's basically access to or enjoying rights
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because you belong to a particular identity.
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You're part of a club.
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And here's the thing.
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I am owning up to mine.
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I am privileged.
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Hey, and if you could afford the ticket price,
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you probably are too.
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(Laughter)
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And here's the thing.
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Privilege is relative, and it’s ultimately subjective.
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And those who have the most amounts of it,
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they’re probably not entirely conscious of it.
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Because for the most part,
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and as they say, privilege is largely invisible to those who have it.
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Now, I work as a diversity and inclusion consultant,
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so I do spend a hell of a lot of my day thinking about these concepts.
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Think about this.
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Whose faces do you see reflected back at you
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on your television screens?
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Who holds the top positions in the top ranks of society?
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Now, except for the few examples here or there,
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notice the general lack of cultural diversity?
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Now, of course,
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the photos that you're seeing up there are some of our top CEOs,
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chancellors of universities,
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federal cabinet and TV personalities in particular.
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Now, what we're actually exposed to every day
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feeds the assumptions that we make about people.
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We all tend to possess a strong tendency towards people
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who physically resemble ourselves.
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It's called affinity bias.
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Now experiments have shown us
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that the brain actually categorizes by race in less than 100 milliseconds.
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Now, according to Nobel Peace Prize recipient neuroscientist Eric Kandel,
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he argues that up to 90 percent of the brain's behavior
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is actually unconscious.
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So these little shortcuts that the brain makes,
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these little implicit associations, these biases,
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for the most part, they are done unconsciously.
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And here's the thing.
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Inherent societal privilege
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means that some of us are given a head start
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in what I like to call the race of life.
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And it's because of that head start,
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not just because we worked extra, extra hard,
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that they'll always be miles ahead,
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even if all the participants are running at the same speed
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and with the same ability.
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So that's code for the same amount to merits,
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or in this case,
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running the same distance.
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Now, it's well documented
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that women of minority groups face even greater hurdles,
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as you can see.
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They face both social and institutional barriers to full equality,
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not just because they're chicks,
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but because of things such as race, religion, sexuality or disability.
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They basically have a double whammy.
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And that concept is referred to as intersectionality.
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Now, as an Australian woman who's originally from Afghanistan
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and a Muslim,
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I get the triple whammy.
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I get sexism, I get racism, and I get Islamophobia.
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You know, some people boast about having a fan base.
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Well, ladies and gentlemen, I have a troll base.
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(Laughter)
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Such a clever bunch,
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they've totally mastered the art of intersectional insults.
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That's not easy to do.
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Now, if only I had a dollar for every time someone said,
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"But all appointment should be on merit."
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Well, of course they should be.
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But here's the thing.
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Are we assuming that the existing status quo
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is somehow based entirely on merit?
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I'm not convinced that it is.
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But hey, don't take my word for it.
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Plenty of other people think that, too.
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Now, I recall a conversation I was having with two senior managers.
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It was about corporate Australia’s shift
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to start focusing on cultural diversity within its leadership ranks,
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now that we're doing better around gender diversity.
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One of them was a woman of Asian-Australian heritage
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and she was a former colleague of mine.
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The other, a colleague of hers, a man of Anglo-Celtic origin.
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Now it's in the context of this discussion in which he turns to her,
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the Asian-Australian woman, and says,
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"There you go.
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Another leg up for people like you."
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Now she's shocked because they're colleagues,
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so she says nothing.
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But I can't stay silent.
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(Laughter)
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I literally put hand out like this.
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(Laughter)
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Got up from my pedestal and I said,
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"When you extend a hand to a group of people,
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who, for far too long, have been effectively walking in the gutter
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while others comfortably stroll the streets,
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that ain't no leg up.
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That certainly is not a handout,
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that's simply leveling the playing field."
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Now, studies have shown us
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that to simply obtain the same number of interviews
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as someone with an Anglo-Saxon sounding name,
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candidates from Indigenous, Middle Eastern and Asian-sounding names
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have to submit a ridiculous amount of more applications.
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So in this case, when compared to Lisa and Andrew,
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and these are the real names used in the study,
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Nadine and Hassan have to submit 64 percent more applications,
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while Ming and Hong have to submit 68 percent more applications.
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Guys, we're be talking about getting a callback to secure an interview.
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We're not even talking about the kind of biases that will kick in
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once you're actually at the interviewing table.
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Now, I can't tell you the number of crappy dad jokes I've had to make
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to make interviewers feel comfortable when they first meet me
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early on in my career.
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Thanks for laughing.
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(Laughter)
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Now, despite the fact that up to 40 percent of Australians
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have at least one parent born overseas,
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no doubt that's probably true of this arena,
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that general diversity is not reflected in the top ranks of society.
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Now, of course, I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with this,
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assuming it is truly based on a meritocracy.
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And for culturally diverse women like me,
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well, you know that glass ceiling?
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It's double glazed for people like me.
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And that's why I've got heels like this, to be able to crack through it.
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Only a tiny percentage of ASX directors are culturally diverse women.
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At a CEO level, it is even worse.
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So think about all those stats that I've been telling you about,
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all those biases that we know about.
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What message does this send
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to a generation of top HSC graduates who are culturally diverse?
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I'm hoping that by this point,
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some of you are convinced on the moral case
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for why change is required to level that damn playing field.
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But then there'll be others who won't be convinced
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unless we show them the dollar figures.
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Hey, don't worry, I've got it covered.
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There is a thing called the diversity dividend,
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that gender diverse companies are 15 percent more likely
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to outperform their industry average,
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while culturally diverse companies,
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they're 35 percent more likely to outperform theirs.
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So diversity brings with it a competitive advantage.
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And here's the thing, anyone at this point who's thinking,
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"Oh, she means tokenistic, visible diversity."
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No.
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I'm not asking you to whack on photos
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of people that look like me onto your website and tick a box.
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(Laughter)
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Although that might be nice.
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(Laughter)
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No, that's not what I'm talking about.
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Real diversity brings about diversity of perspective,
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diversity of views and diversity of thought.
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Ultimately, and of course, the inevitable flow-on effect
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is that Australian businesses will be able to better reflect
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and understand the needs of a multicultural Australia
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who is ultimately their customer base.
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So with everything I've said,
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I want us to pause at this point.
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And I'm going to ask each of you to please stand.
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Yes, please stand.
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If you can't stand,
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then I'll ask you to please raise one hand instead.
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And you get to stretch your legs.
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No, we're not doing a yoga lesson.
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OK.
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I'm going to ask you a series of questions.
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If the answer to the question is yes,
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I want you to remain standing or with your hand up.
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If the answer to the question is no,
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then I want you to take a seat
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and the rest of the questions
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will be directed at those people who are still standing.
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Please be as honest as you can.
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Question one.
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Did you have a job during high school?
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If yes, keep standing,
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if no, please take your seat.
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I quite like the power of ordering all 4,000 of you to do things.
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(Laughter)
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This is cool.
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Question two.
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Have you been discriminated against,
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vilified or abused because of something you cannot change about yourself?
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And let's watch the room as we start to see people sit.
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Question three.
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At some point in your life,
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you have felt like you've been one of the few or the only persons
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of your gender, race, faith,
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sexual orientation or disability
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in a room, in an educational or professional setting?
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And final question.
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Have you attended a public school for the majority of your education?
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Whoa.
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(Laughter)
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Knew that would get a few of us.
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OK.
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Thank you for being brave enough to participate by the way.
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If I answered those questions,
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I would be standing at this point with those of you that are still standing
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in the arena.
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I want us to reflect on our own levels of privilege
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and what that means for each of us.
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I want you to reflect on who's standing and who's sitting
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without making anyone feeling uncomfortable.
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But let's think about that.
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Thank you for being brave and please take a seat now.
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(Applause)
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Thank you.
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I want to tell you this.
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There's never been a more important time
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for us to be conscious of our unconscious biases and societal privileges.
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You know, when you're driving and you know you've got a blind spot back here,
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you know it exists, but you can't see it.
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But you make a concerted effort to turn your head each and every time
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to look and to adjust.
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It's not enough to know that we've got these biases
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and that we have these levels of privilege.
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You've got to do something about it.
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We're living in an era where divisive politics
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has successfully otherized diverse minority groups
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and normalized xenophobia against them.
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We're constantly reading derogatory headlines
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about diverse minority groups.
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And what's worse is some of these remarks are made by our elected officials.
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Now, I believe that when you excuse bigotry in words,
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you lay the framework to give bigotry in action a free pass.
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We know that we have an urgent issue of disenfranchisement amongst the youth,
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particularly those of diverse backgrounds.
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We want them to reach for the stars.
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But the thing is, you can't aspire to be someone that you can't see.
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You can't address inequality equally.
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You can't.
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This is why I believe targets are required across industries
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where diversity of this kind is lacking.
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Now, why, you ask, why targets?
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Because the definition of insanity
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is doing the same thing over and over again
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and expecting different results.
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(Applause)
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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The existing status quo has not allowed us to reach a true meritocracy.
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So we need additional measures to give us a bit of a nudge.
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Because let’s face it:
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what gets measured ultimately gets done.
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Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
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