A Controversial Play — and What It Taught Me About the Psychology of Climate | David Finnigan | TED

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A Controversial Play — and What It Taught Me About the Psychology of Climate | David Finnigan | TED

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Hi, I’m David.
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I'm a playwright from Ngunnawal country,
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the unceded lands of the Ngunnawal people
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in southeast Australia.
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I come from a family of climate scientists,
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and in 2014 I wrote a play entitled "Kill Climate Deniers."
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(Laughter)
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The play follows the story of a group of eco-terrorists
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who take over Australia's Parliament House
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during a Fleetwood Mac concert
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and hold the entire government hostage,
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demanding an instant end to climate change.
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So the story is ridiculous,
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but I wanted the play to start a conversation
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about what happens when the unstoppable force of climate change
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meets the immovable object of politics.
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OK so obviously the title “Kill Climate Deniers” is provocative.
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But just to be clear, when I wrote it, I wasn't targeting anyone real.
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Now thanks to the work of journalists and scientists like Naomi Oreskes,
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we know how climate denial began.
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Oil and gas companies recognized the issue of greenhouse gas emissions
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back in the 1950s and '60s.
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They set out to cast doubt on the science.
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They funded lobby groups, marketing firms, politicians.
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They astroturfed an entire climate denial movement into being.
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So now there's this industry of pundits and journalists
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who make a living denying the reality of climate change.
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When I made the statement "Kill Climate Deniers,"
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I expected outrage from these people.
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But I did not expect pushback from the general public.
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I figured there are no real climate deniers.
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If there are regular, normal people who don't believe in climate science,
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they can't be that passionate.
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So I was very wrong.
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(Laughter)
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Now to begin with, the play received exactly the attention I expected
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from exactly the people I expected.
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When the first production was announced in 2014,
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a conservative politician in my hometown of Canberra
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called for the play to be shut down.
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There were angry articles in the Murdoch press
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Breitbart, Infowars,
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all the usual suspects in the right-wing media machine.
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Some of these pundits accused the play of being an "incitement to terrorism,"
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and they referred me to the police.
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Their argument was that people would see the show
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and be inspired to take an entire government hostage
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to end climate change.
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Now the theater company didn’t have money for lawyers
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or a crisis communications team,
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so out of concern for the actors' safety, the production was cancelled.
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But I didn't like backing down.
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It didn't feel good.
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I felt as if giving up on the project
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was like agreeing with the people attacking it.
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And I did not agree with them.
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The play was not an incitement to terrorism.
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But no theater company was willing to take the risk
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of being referred to the police.
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I couldn't get it up as a show.
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So instead, my musician friend Reuben Engel turned it into an album.
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Reuben sampled dialogue from the play
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and wove it into a series of original electronic tracks.
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We toured that record around Australia.
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We couldn't get into theaters,
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so we went to nightclubs, we held dance parties.
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Then we launched an unauthorized covert walking tour of Parliament House.
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People downloaded a special version of the album on headphones
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and listened to the music and the story
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while walking around the real-life setting of Australia's halls of power.
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Like so.
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(Applause)
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(Music)
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(Music ends)
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Now all of this helped to build up an audience for the project.
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But even more importantly, there were no real-life copycats.
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Not one government building was taken hostage by eco-terrorists
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during a Fleetwood Mac concert.
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So four years after the original production was canceled,
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the play finally made it to the stage in 2018
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at the Griffin Theatre in Sydney,
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followed by productions in Prague, London, Los Angeles and so on.
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Obviously I was very happy.
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And in one version of the story,
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that's where it ends.
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This project just joins a long list of things
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right-wing commentators have found to be outraged about,
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alongside Elvis, smartphones,
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twerking, Miley Cyrus, Fortnite,
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the Beat Generation, skateboarding,
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Woodstock, Woodstock '99,
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sugary cereal, TikTok,
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gay marriage, NWA, feminism,
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the Twist, Dungeons and Dragons,
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LiveJournal, shopping malls and women reading novels.
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(Laughter)
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But as the play made its way into the world,
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something else started happening.
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I started hearing from climate deniers.
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And not fossil-fuel pundits
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or right-wing journalists,
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real climate deniers.
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Regular, normal people.
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And I couldn't get my head around it.
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Like, why did they care so much?
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Like, if you're an ExxonMobil executive,
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then you have a financial incentive to downplay climate science.
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But if you're a high school teacher in Queensland
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or a massage therapist in Massachusetts,
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why would you spend your nights and weekends
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desperately trying to debunk Earth science research?
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Now it turns out that although climate denial began
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as an astroturfed movement created by fossil fuel companies,
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it caught on because it connects with a certain group of people
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in a very real way.
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I got emails, I got physical letters, I got phone calls.
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They started showing up to performances of the play.
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And as the show got bigger and bigger,
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there were more and more of them, and they were passionate.
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I wanted this play to start a conversation, and it did.
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It just was not the conversation I thought I was starting.
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I ended up speaking with hundreds of climate deniers
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over the course of this project.
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Now some of them wanted to insult me and threaten me.
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Some of them wanted to tell me variations on the same gag,
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like, "What if I wrote a play called 'Kill Climate Scientists?'"
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But some of them were interesting.
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These deniers wanted to explain to me why climate science was wrong.
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They had a whole worldview.
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They said, "The reality is, David,
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that climate change is a made up excuse
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for a huge program of top-down intervention.
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What climate activists really want is to stifle our freedoms.
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They want to control what we eat,
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they want to choke the life out of rural communities,
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and they want to throw the doors open to massive global migration."
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Now I wanted to respond to these people and say,
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"I'm sorry, you're wrong.
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That's not what it's about."
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But the more I talked with them, the more I realized...
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They're right.
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They are completely correct.
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I mean, they're not correct about climate change being a made up excuse.
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That, sadly, is not true.
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But the consequences of climate change?
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Yes, diets are going to change.
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Yes, a lot of communities in exposed locations will be forced to leave.
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Yes, there will be huge movements of people
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within and between countries, they're right.
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And we don't even realize how right they are.
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I believe in the science of climate change,
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and so do probably most of the people in this room.
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But more often than not,
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we go about our lives as if it's not real.
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We plan our careers, we build houses,
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we educate our children as if the future will look like the past.
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But the world we're educating them for no longer exists.
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At one degree warming,
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we are already on a planet unlike anywhere humans have ever lived in the past,
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and our systems are starting to buckle under the strain.
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Now whether you believe that we are sleepwalking into disaster
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or if you think we're going to turn things around through high-tech solutions
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or massive social movements,
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whatever climate future you believe in,
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our lives are going to radically change.
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Our future will not look like our past.
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We accept the science,
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but we haven't processed the consequences.
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We don't explicitly deny climate change,
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but in our actions, we're like soft deniers,
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stealth deniers.
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I'm one of these people.
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Maybe you are too.
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I keep my carbon footprint as low as possible.
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But then I got on a plane to give this talk.
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I read research reports about which cities will be vulnerable in future decades
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to climate shocks, resource shocks.
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And then I forget all that and think,
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I just want to buy a flat in my hometown.
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If you believe something but you act like you don't believe it,
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do you really believe it?
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Now climate deniers understand the consequences of the science,
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so they don't accept the science.
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They know what it means if it's true, so they won't allow it to be true.
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I think we can learn from climate deniers.
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I want to be more like that high school teacher in Queensland,
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that massage therapist in Massachusetts,
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because they live what they believe.
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You and I, we think we know better.
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We are the ones in denial.
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And I know deep down that the longer we deny reality,
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the harder the shock when it hits.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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