A Mouse With Two Dads — and a New Frontier for Biology | Katsuhiko Hayashi | TED

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It is my great pleasure to be here
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to share some news from biology today with you.
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So your life and mine starts with this.
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The union of sperm and egg.
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The fertilization involves sperm from the father
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and egg from the mother.
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They meet in the usual way,
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and the fertilized egg acquires the potential
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to give rise to the individuals like you and me.
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If you trace back your generations, you are derived from your parents,
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and your parents are derived from your grandparents,
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and so on, in distant past.
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This perpetuity can only be achieved
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through what biologists like me call germ cell lineage.
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These are the only cells that are immortal
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among more than 200 types of cells in your body.
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The rest die with you.
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So these immortal germs, called gametes,
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are very important,
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and we call them germline.
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In our society, this unbroken line is under threat.
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The present generations are having children later and later,
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and the older germ cells are less likely to result in successful fertilization,
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which leads to the declining birth rate.
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It's not just the people.
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The continuous decrease in the reproductive rate
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of large livestock
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has resulted in huge economic losses.
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Setting aside the human needs,
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there are endangered animals down to a few individuals.
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How can we preserve them?
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That is where the assisted reproductive technology offers hope.
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Since Robert Edwards successfully combined human germ cells in a dish,
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more than 20 million babies have been born
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through this technology called in vitro fertilization.
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However, current assisted reproductive technology
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can only be applied if sperm and egg can be obtained from the body.
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If not, there are no options available.
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But I would ask now:
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Can we create germ cells in a dish?
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So this is a question.
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So let's start with how the germ cells form in the body.
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After fertilization, a fertilized egg undergoes cell divisions
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and differentiates into the different cell types.
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As it further develops,
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original cells, or eventual sperm and egg,
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known as the primordial germ cells, emerge.
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These primordial germ cells then differentiate into the primary egg,
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known as the oocyte, in the female,
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or spermatogonia, the precursor of the sperm in the male.
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These egg and sperm mature over time,
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which is associated with the sexual maturation of individuals.
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Now imagine
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if this entire process were to occur outside the body.
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So my team and I have been focusing
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on duplicating this entire process in a dish,
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known as in vitro gametogenesis.
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The key to generating the germ cells in a dish
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is a type of cells called pluripotent stem cells,
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because they each have the ability to differentiate
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into any cell type in the body.
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Martin Evans showed that such a pluripotent stem cell
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could be derived from preimplantation embryo in mice,
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and James Thomson showed it could be done in humans.
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Based on these breakthroughs,
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Shinya Yamanaka showed that any kind of cell in the body
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could be turned into the pluripotent stem cells
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simply by expressing a specific set of proteins.
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These are called induced pluripotent stem cells,
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and they possess the same potential as those derived from embryos.
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By using these pluripotent stem cells, we can hijack the germline.
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During normal development,
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cells receive a signal that guides their differentiation
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into the different cell types.
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By mimicking the right signals,
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pluripotent stem cells can be directed along the pathway
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to differentiate into the egg and sperm.
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This has been successfully demonstrated in our laboratory
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by using mouse pluripotent stem cells.
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By providing appropriate signals,
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we were able to generate mature eggs
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from most pluripotent stem cells.
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Also to achieve this,
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we created a mini ovary from pluripotent stem cells,
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allowing the oocyte to mature outside the body.
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Importantly, eggs produced in a dish are capable of fertilization
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and giving rise to yet more mice like these.
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These looks the same as any other mice.
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They grow up, they eat the food, they breed and live long.
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But in this case, the genetic mother of these mice
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is the pluripotent stem cell grown in a dish.
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With this in vitro gametogenesis,
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the process of creating an egg requires only skin cells
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or other easily collectable cells from the body, even cells in urine.
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So this means actually this kind of technology can be applied
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to the various mammalian species,
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including humans, livestock or even endangered animals.
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Several research groups have successfully produced
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the primordial germ cells from pluripotent stem cells
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in all these cases.
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Notably, our laboratory is actively involved
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in the repopulation effort for the northern white rhinoceros.
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Sadly, there are only two females who remain on this planet.
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We have generated the egg precursors
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from the northern white rhinoceros induced pluripotent stem cells,
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and are currently creating a mini ovary system
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to mature these precursors into the eggs.
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But we can go further than [that].
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By using this technology, we can skip the sex-dependent reproduction.
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Today, germ cells have different shape and different function based on the sex.
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This difference is genetically made by the sex chromosome.
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In the human, males have an X and Y chromosome,
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and the females have two X chromosomes.
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From a genetic viewpoint,
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this is the only difference between male and female.
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But in a dish, we can eliminate this difference.
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So our laboratory succeeded in the switching from the XY chromosome
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to the X chromosome.
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How did we do that?
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Well, we took the skin cells from the male mice,
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and then made induced pluripotent stem cells,
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which have X and Y chromosomes, of course.
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Then we made a lot of these cells.
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In some rare populations,
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unequal segregation of sex chromosomes occurs during cell division,
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which means some XY chromosomes become one X chromosome
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that then doubles and becomes two X chromosomes.
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We picked that very rare population
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of these cells that have two X chromosomes,
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and we made an egg.
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The egg derived from sex-converted induced pluripotent stem cells
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behaves exactly [like an] egg from traditional females.
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We then fertilized the sex-converted egg
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with the sperm,
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and this gave rise to typical healthy mice like these.
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They grow up, they eat the food, they mate and live long,
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just like conventionally bred mice.
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The only difference is these are derived from two dads.
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Looking at the history of reproductive technology like this,
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technologies developed in experimental animals like this
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can eventually be applied to the human and other animals.
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Today, the production of egg in a dish, even from traditional male cells,
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open a new possibility for reproduction in the future.
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We can create germ cells in a dish,
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and they can come from two fathers, two mothers
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or perhaps other combinations.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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