How Clicking a Single Link Can Cost Millions | Ryan Pullen | TED

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I received a phone call from somebody who needed my help.
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And they explained to me
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that this organization had suffered a cyberattack,
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more specifically a ransomware attack,
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which is designed
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to both steal your data and make it unusable.
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It replicates itself throughout the business
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and can drive you down to paper-based controls.
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And this was an opportunity that I saw
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where I could influence something positively.
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And it was my job to investigate what had happened,
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how it happened and why.
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And I saw something that I hadn't experienced before firsthand.
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In 2017, the NHS suffered something similar,
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and it cost nearly 100 million pounds to recover.
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This incident cost around five million pounds to recover
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and took 14 months.
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Yet what I saw was the human impact.
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How this happened?
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A single individual clicked a link,
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and a single individual enabled this, unknowingly,
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to happen to an organization.
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Multiple people were signed off sick due to stress,
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and multiple people were unable to go to work the next day
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and carry out their job.
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Now, for me,
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cybersecurity is a very technological-focused term.
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And yet IBM did a study in 2021.
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and 95 percent of cyberattacks
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used a human element.
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Now that's all well and good,
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but what does that actually mean?
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It means people can be exploited, too.
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There’s no lines of code, and there’s no fancy software.
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Cybersecurity is, as far as the media is concerned,
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maybe teenagers in their bedrooms causing trouble,
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stealing things and learning how to use them.
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Yet what people don't see is the impact and how his day-to-day life.
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And this incident for me,
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made me think slightly differently around cybersecurity.
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And recently I had an opportunity
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which presented this thought process.
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I was commissioned to evade security controls
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for a very well-known building in London.
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That’s a snazzy way of saying “break in.”
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And effectively, it was my job to see if I could get past the security controls
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and get into the building.
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And so for me, thinking kind of outside of the box,
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this building has floor to ceiling doors,
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24/7 security team,
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endless budget for this kind of thing based on where they are.
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And so, thinking slightly outside,
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I needed to come up with a different plan.
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And ...
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What I did was I tried to go down the social engineering route,
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which is the art of kind of deception
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and making people believe something without the full information.
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And what I did was I walked in the front door,
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dressed quite similarly to this,
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and I was greeted by eight people
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and I thought, oh, that's a bit over the top.
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And it's because every single person should have the right information
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and should know where they're going,
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It’s very rare for them to be visitors.
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And this person asked me,
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"Why are you here? Who are you here to see?"
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And I explained, I didn't have an appointment,
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but I was here to see a specific person.
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And they said, "Yeah, there's no chance you're getting in."
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And I thought, oh goodness, I traveled all this way.
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And yet what I know is people are empathetic,
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and people want to help each other, right?
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And so I made up a story and I said I was here for a legal matter,
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and I was only able to achieve what I needed to achieve
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on these premises.
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And they said, "Yeah, sorry, we're still ..."
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And I explained the urgency, and I made them feel sorry for me.
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And what I was thinking about giving this talk,
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I was going to pause and I was going to pretend that I was struggling.
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And that emotion that you would have felt
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where you wanted to help me
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or you wanted me to continue, is exactly how this person felt.
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They felt they were stopping me from doing my job, which they were,
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but not for how they expected it.
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And then I pretended to be on the phone in the foyer, pacing up and down,
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pretending to be aggravated.
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And then the manager came across with a QR code for me and said,
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"So sorry for the issues, no problem."
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And they showed me around a side passage away from the two rounds of security.
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So I had my laptop bag with me with “the evidence,”
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and it wasn’t checked and I was able to go in,
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and I was able to go to the floor that I needed to.
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And I was paid as a cybersecurity expert to evade the controls of this building.
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And all I did was ask for access and make someone feel sorry for me.
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And so that's two very different perspectives.
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One, the five-million-pound job and took 14 months to recover
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where I was helping people,
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but the second, I was the aggressor
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or the person trying to get in.
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Now this is all enabled through the way that humans exist
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and human behavior.
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And cybersecurity as a whole doesn't really represent that
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in a way that is sufficient, I don't think.
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And so I have one more narrative and different perspective to share.
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And it's when I was a victim.
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This happened only a few weeks ago.
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And what happened was I received a phone call.
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It was around 8pm.
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I received a phone call from a phone number.
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And they said, "Hello, is this Mr. Pullen?"
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And I said yes.
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And they said, "We've seen your bank cards be used
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in a different part of the country."
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And I thought, oh goodness.
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And what they explained was,
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they explained there's been three different transactions
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and would I like them to block them for me?
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I said, "Yes please.
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That would be really helpful."
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And I Googled the number out of instinct,
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and it was the phone number from the fraud line in the bank.
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And something didn't add up.
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And I'm a bit of a pessimist.
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I don't really trust people.
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And so I was instantly on the back foot,
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and they're saying all of these things,
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they were confirming my identity.
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They told me where I lived, my mother's maiden name,
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and they told me a few other bits of information the bank would know.
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And all of this is to build a perception of credibility.
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Why shouldn't I trust you?
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And why shouldn't you be phoning me to help me?
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And we go back and forth for around an hour and a half,
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and there was a few things that didn't sit right with me.
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And so when I was on hold, when they were blocking my transactions,
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I phoned the actual fraud line and I said,
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is there a way that I can verify their identity?
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The person on the phone said, "They sound very professional and legitimate"
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and they were.
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I asked for their name, and they had a fake LinkedIn profile.
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They had a fake crime reference number for me.
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And ...
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Me experiencing this firsthand,
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having investigated things like this on a regular basis for mortgages
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and transactions ending up in the wrong place,
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I knew something wasn’t sitting quite right,
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and the true person put a note on my account
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and I explained to the person,
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"Can you tell me what the note says, please?"
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And that was the first time they got a little bit flustered.
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And it took them five minutes and they said,
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"We'll go and check with accounts team.
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But in the meantime, can you tell me the code that it says in your mobile app?"
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At which point I hung up, got my cards replaced, and I was OK.
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But these three narratives
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of cybercrime or scams or criminal behavior
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are all technology-focused with the end goal
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but are human-led.
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And you may ask, "How is this possible?"
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"Why can this be so easy?"
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I've literally just walked into a building
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and asked someone to let me in with a fake story.
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And someone's phoned me up with a small piece of information
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and built this incredible picture around, OK, yes, I should trust you.
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And it's because data has a value in different pockets,
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and with small bits of information you can build quite a narrative,
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as you can see.
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And so today,
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what you would be able to do
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on the kind of criminal underground, if you like,
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would be buy 1,000 email addresses and passwords
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for around six US dollars
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a cup of coffee in some places, right?
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That's 1,000 people's account details that you may be able to log into
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or have tangible information to create a case,
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and that might be pretending to be Amazon for a password reset.
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It might be what location you went on holiday,
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and we're going to do a bit more of a targeted attack that way.
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And this information is available
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because of vulnerabilities from a technical standpoint.
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Yet this is to exploit human behaviors.
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Take my parents, for example.
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I think I’m in cybersecurity because my parents give me a balance.
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My mom is 100 percent, 110 percent optimist.
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Nothing's going to go wrong, everything's OK,
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no one's going to hurt my little boy and all of this sort of stuff.
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And my dad's much more on the pessimistic end where,
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“Why do you want to know me?
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Why do you want this information?”
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And so that balance for me brings kind of both sides of the story.
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And my mom is the sort of person that would have shared
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the traditional WhatsApp messages,
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250 pounds at Christmas and oh, how lovely that would be,
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pay for your Christmas lunch and all those sorts of things.
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And that then becomes a whole different attack vector,
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because it's coming from someone you trust,
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and they're sharing you a link
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and they're sharing something you might want to click,
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and you begin to trust it even more.
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And so my talk is around really focusing on the ways
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in which human behavior is exploited
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and how we can benefit and protect each other.
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And it's OK to call these things out.
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And so there's some basic things you can do,
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such as resetting passwords
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and making sure you're not using the same password for all your accounts.
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Because if one of your passwords did get leaked,
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you would like to know, OK, it's just this one account,
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and I understand that's the one I need to look after.
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When many people will use the same profile for Facebook,
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their bank -- their online banking, sorry,
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and sites that you can purchase things.
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So you might be able to go on Amazon
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and buy an iPhone with someone's username and password, right?
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Bank account details are stored.
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And that creates a whole different perspective of risk and cybercrime.
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And so for me,
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I don't believe any generation can avoid this anymore.
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Children are being raised with iPads,
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and older generations are online shopping
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because of convenience and accessibility to services they may not have had before.
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And so I believe that understanding how these things may happen
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and putting some light on them
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can really impact the way in which people conduct themselves
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and challenge when things may not feel quite right.
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And so for me,
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going through this journey and those three different perspectives,
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the one where I was the person helping, five million pounds,
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and seeing people really suffer.
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The second one where I was putting people potentially in that position,
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however fully ethically, and I was meant to be there for my job.
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And the third where I was the victim,
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it shows that it can take many different shapes based on information.
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And information can come from social media.
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And so if you're going on holiday to Mexico,
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say, for your honeymoon,
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you've saved up all of this money.
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Wonderful, have a lovely time.
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Yet someone you know or an acquaintance
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or you have public visibility of your arrangements.
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If someone knows that information
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and they know the bank you may work with,
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they could phone you whilst you land and say,
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"We've seen your card be used in this location."
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Now, how are you going to feel
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if someone's saying your card is being used and it's you?
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You're going to feel OK, cool, yeah, this is me, no problem.
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And they say, "OK, can you just confirm your identity?
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Because we want to make sure this is you.
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Can you just tell me your card number?"
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So you do, and then you're asked why you're there.
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"I'm on my honeymoon."
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"Have a lovely time."
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All of these social engineering, empathetic side of behaviors.
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And then you get down into the more conversational elements.
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"OK, can you just confirm your card isn't going to expire?
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When does it expire, please?"
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There's many different ways you can pose questions to make people feel acceptance.
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And then lastly, "Can you just check the security pin
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so I know which card I'm going to disable?"
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And by that time what you've done is
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you've told someone you've got money in your bank
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because you've been saving for this wonderful occasion,
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and also you're not going to be in the country to do anything about it.
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And so from a cybersecurity perspective,
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exploitation can happen in many different ways,
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and I don't think it's publicized around the human elements enough.
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And so if you take one thing from today,
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I ask that you see this as your opportunity
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to make sure that you protect your own information and your loved ones
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and your identity online.
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There's no problem with using social media.
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All I ask is you consider who you're sharing that information with.
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The reason being that information is valuable, even if it's not to you.
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It could build a picture,
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and it could cause you some trouble.
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Consider who you share your information with.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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