How to Make Big Decisions in Challenging Circumstances | Jonathan Reimer | TED

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So I'd like to start with two wildfires.
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In 2016, I was the director of the wildland urban interface
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for the Fort McMurray fire.
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I arrived days after the fire had jumped the Athabasca River
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and entered the community as a torrent of flame and ember,
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starting hundreds of fires simultaneously throughout the community.
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And in many neighborhoods,
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these fires arrived before the evacuation orders did.
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And the flames licked at the bumpers of those fleeing.
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And I was there to relieve the first responders
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who had been working without sleep since that time,
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and I had never seen anything like it.
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At the time, no one had.
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Rows of homes decimated,
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interspersed, seemingly at random,
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with homes that were untouched.
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Cars abandoned in the roadways.
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A city strangely silent, except for the hum of our pumps.
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And the clang of pulaskis.
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Now our crews were able to protect the remaining neighborhoods,
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but when the 88,000 people that were evacuated returned,
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some had little to return to,
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and Fort McMurray remains the most destructive
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and costly wildfire in Canadian history.
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The next year, I responded to a fire threatening the town of Waterton,
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which is a beautiful community in the Rocky Mountains.
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This fire appeared more distant,
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some 25 kilometers on the other side of the Great Divide,
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which is a high mountainous ridge where our crews were trying to hold it.
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One night the fire did something that no one expected.
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When night fell,
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and the fire behavior normally reduces,
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the fire surged over the ridge, moving 100 meters a minute.
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Flames overran the town at 10pm,
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and the fire quadrupled in size in about five hours.
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When the smoke cleared,
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we hadn’t lost a single home in Waterton,
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and there were no injuries.
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And that is because three days earlier,
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the community was evacuated,
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and firefighters had established extensive community protection efforts.
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And though the landscape was transformed,
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people could return home safely in a few days later.
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(Applause)
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Now the difference between these two fires
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was a single, bold decision.
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Firefighters in Waterton couldn't have anticipated
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exactly what would happen.
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But they assessed the risks,
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and they made a great decision with huge consequences
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for their community.
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It was up to them,
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and they rose to the challenge.
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Now we all face times when it is up to us.
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I am an emergency manager and an incident commander,
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and I’m deeply curious about this question:
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How can we make big decisions well?
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Decisions that are high-impact, that are complex,
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where we may not have all the time we would like
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and all the information that we need.
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How do we make big decisions well?
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Now on a wildfire, these decisions include whether to use direct
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or indirect attack,
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or when our best option is to move people out of the path of a wildfire.
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And we might make these decisions in incident command post
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or emergency operation center,
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or hunched over the hood of a truck with paper maps pockmarked by ash.
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But as a medical professional or a CEO,
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you might be making these decisions in a boardroom.
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As a parent or partner,
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you might make these decisions at the kitchen table.
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And I'd like to share with you what I've learned
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about making big decisions in challenging circumstances.
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So here's what we normally think happens, right?
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You know, we face a big problem.
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We collect all the available information, we evaluate our options,
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and we select the one that maximizes the things that we want to happen
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and minimizes those that we don't.
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And in this view,
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decision problems are essentially information problems
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that we can't eliminate the uncertainty,
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but we can chip away at it by adding more information.
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And so I committed to providing the best information for our incident commanders.
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But I kept encountering situations that I couldn't make sense of.
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Where adding more information
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didn't seem to be helping people make better decisions.
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In one study,
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increasing the amount of information available to incident commanders
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consistently decreased their performance,
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although they thought they were performing better.
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What was happening is that more information
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was not reducing uncertainty in practice
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but causing these incident commanders
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to focus their attention on evaluating all of this data
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and overlooking more important aspects.
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And some of the best firefighters that I knew
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didn't have better information.
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They seemed to work by feel.
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That on a big day,
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they could bend down, touch the grass
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and tell me with great accuracy
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what the fire would do later that day.
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And so I turned to psychology to help me understand all this,
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and I discovered that I had missed something of a revolution.
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That we have our rational minds, of course,
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but we have an entirely different set of tools
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to help us make complex decisions.
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And that is our gut.
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Our intuitions.
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They're fast, they're effortless.
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They often don't feel like making a decision at all,
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you just see the solution.
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They're how we drive our car to work,
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and how we look over in the next lane and spot a dangerous driver
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from a tiny observation.
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In fact, most of our judgments in life are made intuitively,
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and they can perform amazing feats.
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Chess grandmasters form an idea of the best move extremely quickly,
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within a few seconds.
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And four out of five times,
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that is a decision that they ultimately play.
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How do they do that?
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If you ask them, they're not entirely sure either.
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And it turns out,
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our intuition is a form of unconscious pattern recognition.
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That it can keep track of details that our conscious mind misses.
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And that is how those firefighters were able to predict complex fire behavior
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by touching a few blades of grass.
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They had a lifetime's worth of patterns stored in their memory.
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But our intuitions are not magic.
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They can be fooled.
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They create useful thoughts rapidly,
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but they can see patterns that aren't there,
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They can see the Virgin Mary in burnt toast.
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(Laughter)
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They can see a conspiracy behind every setback.
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And crucially, they struggle with any form of statistics.
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If you take these two packages, for example,
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if we choose to reflect on them,
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we may know intellectually that these are equal,
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but we're always going to prefer that one on the left, right?
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Now on a grocery aisle, that’s not a big problem.
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But if we are evaluating a fire containment strategy
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with an 80 percent chance of success,
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it helps to reflect on that 20-percent chance of failure.
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And so we have these two types of thinking,
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our gut and our rational mind,
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each with their own different sources of wisdom
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and their own blind spots.
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How can we draw on both in challenging circumstances?
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Now I don’t have all of the answers for that,
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but I do want to share an insight from firefighting,
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and that is to start with a size-up.
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When we arrive on scene to a new fire,
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we systematically gather information on what's burning,
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the fire behavior, the hazards,
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what could be threatened in the area,
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and only after that is complete do we turn our attention to strategies
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and tactics.
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You can imagine fire response is extremely time-sensitive.
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But a good size-up will help you save time and often lives.
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Now a size-up will look very different in a boardroom or at the kitchen table.
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What matters is that you identify the critical pieces of information,
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and then you go out and assess them.
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This may take a few moments or a few months,
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but what's important is the order.
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That we establish a reliable base of information
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before we turn our mind to an overall assessment.
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Then we can switch gears
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and call on our intuition to help guide us towards a great decision.
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Now this is the opposite of what we tend to do, right?
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Where we face a dilemma,
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our gut jumps in, hands us an intuition,
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and we go out and see if we can confirm that intuition,
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which may be fantastic.
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Or it might be just noise.
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But turning our attention to it at this point
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can make it more difficult to see the best solution.
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And we can experience this together.
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So come with me on this.
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A bat at a ball cost 110 dollars in total.
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The bat costs 100 dollars more than the ball.
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How much does the ball cost?
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Now this question is designed to trigger your gut.
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It should be screaming in your ear, 10 dollars.
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Did you feel that?
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Now if you stopped and checked,
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you realized that can't quite be right.
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That if the ball is 10 dollars,
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then the bat would have to be 110 dollars,
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and together it would be 120 dollars.
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And that's why only 14 percent of people get this question correct.
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But let's see if we can make it a little bit easier by adding a hint.
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[Hint: $10 is not the answer]
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(Laughter)
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Now, 34 percent of people get this question right.
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Which is better, right?
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But it's still not great.
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So we can nudge people in the right direction.
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[Before responding, consider whether the answer could be $5]
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(Laughter)
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But now only 31 percent of people get the question correct.
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(Laughter)
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But what has shocked me
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is what happens when you give people the right answer.
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[The answer is $5.]
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[Please enter the number five in the blank below]
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(Laughter)
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Now, 77 percent of people get this question correct,
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which means that more than 20 percent of people are given the solution,
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being told that it's the solution and are getting this question incorrect.
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And what researchers conclude
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is that we fall in love with our intuitive solutions.
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That our own ideas are great, right?
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So much so that even if a perfect solution is handed to us
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on a silver platter afterwards,
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it can be difficult to accept.
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There’s a clue to how this all works in practice
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from an old wildfire.
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In 1949, a crew of smokejumpers
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became caught on a mountainside in Montana
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above a fast-moving wildfire.
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And they did what I think any of us would in that situation,
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they ran.
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And it became a race for them to reach the top of the hill
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before the fire caught up with them.
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Now their leader was a fellow named Wag Dodge,
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and he soon realized that they were going to lose that race.
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And so he stopped
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and made an unintuitive decision.
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He lit a match at his own feet.
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His idea was that if we burn off the fuel,
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when the main fire arrives,
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it'll burn around us and we'll be safe.
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And he called out to the other smokejumpers, to his crew,
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to come and join him.
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And they turned and looked at him, confused.
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And no one did.
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They couldn't see what Wag saw.
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They were blinded by their intuitive reaction
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to get out of there.
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Now Wag survived that fire unharmed,
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but the others were not as lucky.
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Now hopefully we never face a situation quite like that.
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But we all do face big decisions under uncertainty,
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where it's up to us and what we do matters.
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And what I've discovered is that more information may not be the answer,
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and that a small tweak to the way that we use our intuition
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can make it much easier to guide us towards better decisions.
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Instead of having an intuition
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and looking at the world through it,
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start by looking to the world
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and then consulting your intuition.
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And so the next time we're at a boardroom
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or that kitchen table
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or in an emergency operation center,
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and we face that big decision,
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let’s take a breath,
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and start with a size-up.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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