Meet NEO, Your Robot Butler in Training | Bernt Børnich | TED

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NEO: As a species,
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humans have mastered energy to the level where it is,
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for all practical purposes, completely abundant.
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200 years ago,
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no one could have imagined a world where energy was so accessible
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that most people would take it for granted.
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If you had asked the smartest person on Earth
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whether we could one day summon light with the flip of a switch,
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they would have said it was impossible.
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Even if the brightest minds worked on it together for an eternity.
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But today, it's just that easy.
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Energy is everywhere.
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All around us, all of the time.
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Now what if I told you that the same is about to happen with labor?
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We are standing at the gates of a future
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where the work needed to build the products we use,
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the services we rely on
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and even the chores in our homes will be as effortlessly accessible
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as energy is today,
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enabling you to explore new frontiers
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and focus on what makes you truly human.
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Thank you.
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Bernt Børnich: Thank you, NEO.
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You're the best.
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It's an amazing machine, right?
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Audience: Yeah.
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(Applause)
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BB: So I spent the last decade of my life
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working on building humanoid robots like NEO.
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Robots that will hopefully soon be able to do
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almost anything that we could imagine.
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Now whether this is helping you with the dishes,
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helping you do your laundry
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or whether this is helping your aging grandma,
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there's never really been a time better for robots.
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We have an aging population in need of help,
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and we have a large labor shortage
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across most of the global economy.
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And there's much, much more.
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But even more importantly, to me, these robots,
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they promise something greater
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than just the ability to solve the problems of today.
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They can solve things that we cannot do today.
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They can give us back things like time.
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And as these systems and AIs now become both physical and agentic,
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we can start to work towards a future
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where we actually have an abundance of labor.
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We can start towards lifting humanity out of this constant battle
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over scarcity of resources,
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and create a world where everyone has what they need.
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And I think that will, to some extent,
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actually redefine what it means to be human.
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But since I'd say, around year 1400,
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when Leonardo da Vinci made "The Mechanical Man,"
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that to me is kind of like the first example of a humanoid robot,
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these things have been mainly a thing of science fiction, not reality.
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But this is changing.
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The robots, they're actually here.
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And when I say here, I don't necessarily mean in videos.
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They're actually here in our homes.
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At least if you work at 1X, where I work,
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where we now have them in quite a few homes throughout the company.
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And already later this year,
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I hope some of you guys will have it in your home
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and join us on this journey.
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So that means NEO is now part of my daily routine.
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So it does some of the chores around the house.
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Some of this is autonomous.
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Some of this is done through remote operation
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as it's learning.
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And I talk to it.
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I treat it kind of like a butler, like a companion.
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It's part of the family.
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And I think it's actually incredibly interesting
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to also see how this social dynamic develops,
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because this is, of course, incredibly useful and fun
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to have it do stuff I don't want to do around my home.
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But it's also really fun to see the beginning of like,
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what will this relationship be between man and machine
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as these AIs become physical.
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Now like I said, the hardware is actually here.
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It took us about a decade of very hard work,
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but also many people that came before us,
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a lot of time to do the foundational research
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for us to now finally be able to build a machine
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that can do almost anything that a human can do.
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But it begs the big question, of course:
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When will they be fully autonomous?
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When will they actually become truly intelligent?
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And what is the path that will actually take us there?
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And I think this will be very obvious in [retrospect].
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They need to live and learn among us.
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We actually need to take these machines, and we need to adopt them.
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We need to put them into our society and let them learn just as we do.
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So the general convention has been,
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or general wisdom, that robots,
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they're going to first happen in factories.
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So we're going to put these robots into factories,
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they're going to do the dull, repetitive, dangerous tasks that they're good at.
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And as they do these repetitive tasks, they get better and better, right?
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They get more intelligent.
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And after some time, we can put them into our home.
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They will be able to do our laundry,
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they will build our skyscrapers.
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But this is actually categorically wrong.
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And we know because we actually tried that.
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So back in 2022,
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we took our previous generation wheeled humanoid, Eve,
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and we put it in industry.
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And it actually went really well.
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We solved a lot of kind of narrow, specific tasks,
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and it got really good at them really fast.
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And then after about 20 to 50 hours,
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the robots, they just stopped learning.
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And if you think about it, it's not really rocket science.
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Because if you’re doing the same task over and over every day,
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and it's the only thing you're doing,
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you're not going to get very intelligent.
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There's no information there.
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And also you're going to generally become very narrow-minded, right?
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We don't like being narrow-minded.
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And if you think about like, what is a factory?
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It is essentially a process that we design to reduce diversity and variance.
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You want your factory worker to need as little information as possible
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to be able to do the job
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and get a high-quality, repeatable product out.
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And this is kind of the opposite of what you need for intelligence.
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You need diversity,
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you need to challenge yourself.
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You need to do new tasks every day that you don't know how to do.
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And there's a great parallel here
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to the early days of large language models.
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So when we use these models today,
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and they're getting really good,
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we kind of forget where they started.
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They started with a lot of people trying to make very narrow models.
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So if I take an example,
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if you wanted to make a very good writing assistant to write poetry,
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then you would, of course train on all of the best poetry in the world.
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Make sense.
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And then it wouldn't really work.
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And when we started training these models on all of the internet, right,
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the complete diversity of all human knowledge,
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they started working.
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They became kind of smart.
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They started being able to, to a certain extent, to reason.
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And I'd say like, understand to a certain extent,
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what is the question you’re asking and how should I answer.
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And this is also how we humans learn.
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We need a large amount of diversity
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for us to be able to develop into intelligent beings.
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So why should it be different for robots?
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And it really begs the question then:
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What is the equivalent of the internet?
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How do we find this kind of like internet-level diversity of information
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for our robots?
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Well we come to the conclusion that this is probably the home.
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Now the home is this beautiful, chaotic thing.
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It's kind of like the messiness that is being human.
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And I want to take a small example here.
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So think about a cup.
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Now of course, there's many cups in the world,
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and you want to be able to figure out how all of them work.
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But even if you look at one specific cup,
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it can be so many things.
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Is it dirty? Is it clean?
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It's kind of in the middle?
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Is it on the table,
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in the cabinet, on the floor?
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It can even have a social context.
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Someone's using the cup.
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Someone's waiting for the cup.
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Like, why is the cup even there?
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And this is just a cup.
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Now think about expanding this out into everything
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and every object and everything going on in your home.
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That's the kind of diversity that we're talking about
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to get to proper machine intelligence.
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So like any good scientist, right,
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we had this hypothesis, and now we have to test it.
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So in 2023, we brought our robots home.
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And I had Eve in my house for quite a while.
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And it was, of course, doing the standard things
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like emptying the dishwasher,
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but also bringing me a cup of tea
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when I was enjoying playing board games with my friends
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or serving cupcakes at my daughter's birthday party.
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And pretty quickly,
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it actually became quite clear that this hypothesis
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actually was the ground truth.
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The home is this incredible,
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diverse source of data
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that lets us continue to progress intelligence.
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So we thought originally that it was going to be this,
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but actually it was this.
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And let me show you guys now how this actually works in practice.
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Oh thank you NEO, you’re doing a good job.
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It's a bit noisy,
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but hopefully you can still hear me.
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What you see here now,
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of course, is just a subset of tasks that NEO can do.
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And this is a mix of autonomy,
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for things the robot is good at,
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and some remote operation
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where someone's guiding the robot
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to basically do expert demonstrations on how to do these tasks.
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And as we have an increasing number of these robots
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throughout homes,
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living among us and learning,
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more and more of this becomes autonomous
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until hopefully,
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one day, all of this will be fully autonomous.
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And if you kind of follow along in the field,
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a natural question to ask at this point would be:
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Why doesn’t everyone do this?
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If it's so obvious.
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Well it actually turns out, it’s incredibly hard
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to make a robot that is safe among people.
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So robots are traditionally these quite stiff, high-energy --
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you’re doing great, NEO, you’re doing great.
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They're this --
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careful, I don’t want to get watered --
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stiff machines that are high-energy and dangerous.
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And this is very different from how NEO works.
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NEO actually has tendons that [get] pulled,
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very loosely inspired by human muscle.
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And this makes NEO into a robot that is quiet, soft,
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compliant, lightweight, safe,
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and really able to live among us and learn among us.
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Let's see if he figures it out.
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It's a hard one.
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You can do it, NEO.
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(Applause)
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I said he's the best, right?
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OK.
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So this is still, of course, incredibly early.
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We're all the way in the beginning of this journey.
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But I do hope that, in not so long,
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just like we take energy for granted around us,
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we will be able to take labor around us for granted.
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And we might soon not even remember the day
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where there wasn't always like, a helping hand available
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for anything we wanted to do.
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But as these machines go around in our society and learn,
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to me this journey is about a lot more
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than just you not having to do your laundry.
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It's about creating a future where we actually have time
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to focus on what matters to us as humans,
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and getting rid of these constraints.
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But also, it's an opportunity to really have these machines
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help us solve some of the outstanding questions that we still have.
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Like, can we have robots build robots?
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Can we have robots build data centers to progress AI?
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Can we have robots that build chip fabs
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to help us accelerate adoption of AI?
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And I think it's getting pretty clear that we can have all of these things.
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But it goes even further than that.
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I hope we can get a future where we have humanoid robots like Neo
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that is actually building particle accelerators,
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that is building labs.
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We will have millions of robots around in the world doing high-quality,
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repetitive experiments in labs
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and helping us progress science
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at a pace that we have never seen before.
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And I hope that in the future,
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through this kind of like a symbiosis between man and machine,
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we can start trying to answer
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some of the remaining big unanswered questions
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about the universe and our role here.
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And I think if we can do that,
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that will to some extent redefine what it means to be human.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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