Why Do Some Bodies Respond Differently to Disease? | Erika Moore | TED

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2025-02-03 ・ TED


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Why Do Some Bodies Respond Differently to Disease? | Erika Moore | TED

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When I was younger, I just did not heal the same way.
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I would see these scabs, and, like, I'd pick at them,
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they'd take forever to close,
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and my brother's skin would just close right up.
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And then, you know, my sisters could have cramps,
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and they would just take ibuprofen, and it would be like nothing.
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And I would take ibuprofen, I would take a lot of ibuprofen,
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and I would get no response for my whole body.
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And so I just was like, "Why? Please help me."
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At first, I felt like I got the short end of the biological stick, right?
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Why does my body not work the same way?
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There was a lot of frustration,
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because no one knows how they respond to something until they try it.
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But it was just I was different from them, that's all.
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I’m Dr. Erika Moore and I’m an equity bioengineer.
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So every single time you get a paper cut or even a bruise,
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your immune system is there.
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Macrophage immune cells are present.
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They're like the watchdog of the body.
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I think of them as, like, squishy balls,
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and they just kind of are always surveilling around the body.
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Sometimes, they're eating,
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but other times, they're just saying,
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"Hey, man, don't be mad. This is cool. We can heal now, right?"
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Just imagine, like, a squishy ball that's sometimes angry, sometimes happy.
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(Laughs)
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They’re super cute, I love them.
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(Laughs)
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I really study what function or state they adopt
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based on what environment they’re in
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and based on whose body they come from.
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There are a lot of other material scientists,
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bioengineers who've asked and developed really cool applications,
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but oftentimes, we don't really consider who is studied.
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My work really focuses on the who of the disease,
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so I really want to study the diseases that particularly are health disparities,
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that only certain swaths of the population are affected by,
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because I think that by shining a light on those diseases,
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we can ensure better health equity for everyone in the world.
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I think I'm the first person or lab
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to really spearhead or cheerlead some of these endeavors,
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because there are lived experiences
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that a lot of other people in academia and in traditional PhD training
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don't really have to consider, right?
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So there aren't that many women of color who are assistant professors,
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who run research programs and do these other things.
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I knew so many women, growing up, who died from lupus.
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It was very common.
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When I went to try to study lupus, there were a lot of people who were like,
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"We're agnostic.
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Like, we don't care about the background of the patients."
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But I was like,
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"We know that, like, 90 percent of lupus patients are women,
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and of that, about 70 percent are women of color.”
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So we really have to consider that, right?
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It should be a variable.
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Some women develop lupus, they don't ever have flares. They're fine.
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Other women develop lupus and have flares back to back,
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and pretty much develop major cardiovascular disease very early on.
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And so we want to take their patient cells
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and look at their interactions with blood vessels
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and see how they confer or propagate different inflammation in the system.
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And we do that all in this little jello construct.
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So it’s almost like a mini-tissue outside of the body.
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And we put the cells in it,
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and then we can study how they would respond in a tissue-like environment.
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What we found was really cool.
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The patient's background really directly affected the blood vessels in the system.
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We saw an increased number of blood vessel interactions
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between macrophages that were isolated from African-American women
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compared to those macrophages that were isolated from European women.
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These tissue models help us answer some really important questions.
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What if we could pinpoint why inflammation happens in certain bodies
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more violently than others?
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What if we could cure autoimmune illnesses by accounting for disease differences
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based on your background?
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What if we could prevent excessive fibrosis
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by tailoring your macrophages to respond differently to injury?
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I think my lived experiences made me more likely to ask these questions.
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And then I was just willing to try, you know,
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and I'm still willing to try.
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I think by continuing to try,
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we innovate on what's the norm and set new standards for the future.
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If we pay a little bit more attention to the details,
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I think we can easily build a more equitable health care system
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for everyone.
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That's my goal.
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