Work Is Broken. Gen Z Can Help Fix It | Amanda Schneider | TED

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I’d like to start with a little game of “would you rather”.
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So I'm going to invite everyone to go ahead and stand up.
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Alright.
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Take money off the table.
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Would you rather stay in the same job that you're in right now
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for the rest of your career?
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If so, you're going to go ahead and take a seat.
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Or would you rather
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change jobs every year from now until you retire?
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If so, you're going to remain standing.
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Some of you are looking at your coworkers right now.
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(Laughter)
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Alright.
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Looks like around 60/40.
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You guys can go ahead and take a seat.
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So about 60/40,
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with the majority preferring to stay in the same job.
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Now Gen Z will make up 27 percent of the workforce by next year.
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And when we ask them this same question,
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the majority of them said that they would rather change jobs every year
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from now until they retire.
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While tenure, loyalty and longevity
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have often been thought of as reasons to hire someone,
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our Gen Zers thought,
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"Would I rather build the collective insight
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from multiple different companies,
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or only deep insight from one company?"
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I share this to highlight
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just how differently from our traditional work norms
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Gen Z sees the world.
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And we have a choice.
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We can ignore them,
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we could study them to stereotype them,
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but how did that work for all you millennials in the room?
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I want to suggest, rather than stereotyping,
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we look to Gen Z as prototypes to help us build a better future.
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When we prototype something,
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we keep the aspects that work,
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and we iterate on those that don't.
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Now I've spent my career researching
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and writing about topics that matter to the world of workplace design
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and the knowledge workers who inhabit those spaces.
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If that's you or you manage a team of office workers,
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I'm glad you're here,
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because I want to argue that this topic, right now,
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has never been more important.
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In fact, I want to suggest that work is broken.
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But don't worry, in the next 10 minutes, I'm going to take you on a journey
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to understand why I say that and give us some inspiration,
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some "what ifs" to fix it.
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Now let's start with my story.
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My father instilled in me a deep curiosity for the working world
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when I was very young,
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and my mother instilled in me a deep desire to become a mother.
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I wanted to do both,
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and I wanted to do them well.
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And I was blessed with a phenomenal start to my career.
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But then came my second desire.
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I was blessed with my first son less than a decade into my career,
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and the transition was really tough.
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Here's why.
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Most of my paycheck was going to daycare.
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When we found out we were pregnant with our second son,
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before we even called our parents,
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we called the daycare only to discover that even with sibling priority,
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he wouldn't have a spot until he was seven months old.
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And I found myself,
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because of the standard accepted 8 to 5 work hours,
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I was waking my kids up to rush them to daycare,
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to rush to work, to rush back, to pick them up,
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to feed them dinner, to put them in bed.
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We were spending more waking hours apart than together.
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And I hit a moment where I asked myself,
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"What's the point?"
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And sadly, this is the moment many women like me leave the workforce.
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But if we're honest,
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I would guess, in the tumultuousness of the past four years,
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many of you have also had your own "what's the point" moment.
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So I'm going to invite you to close your eyes for just a minute.
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When was your "what's the point" moment?
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Alright, you can open your eyes, but keep that moment in mind
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as I challenge that the norms our working world are built upon today
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are based on outdated rules that no longer apply.
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We still generally work banker’s hours,
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a norm created when it was mostly men working
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with stay-at-home wives.
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And does anyone know why our kids have summers off?
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Most believe it was so they could help with the harvest.
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But today, our kids mostly aren't farming.
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And our linear career paths
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are built so that life peaks in your mid-career.
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This is at the same time our duties caring for our elders
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and caring for our children peak as well.
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It's a recipe for burnout.
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But here's the good news.
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In the past four years,
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we've seen a massive shift in how knowledge workers work.
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Hybrid work is on the rise.
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This is the perfect time to rethink norms for the next era.
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And the solution in my research comes from looking at the youngest generation
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in our midst.
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Adam Grant calls this a "Vuja De" moment.
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It's seeing things we've seen many times,
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but with fresh eyes.
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Now my research team and I have intensely studied Gen Z
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and how their perceptions will affect the future of work.
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Here are three of the most interesting things that we've learned.
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Number one,
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Gen Z is blind to their own physical-digital fluidity.
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One of the most memorable moments in the research
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was when we were talking about hybrid work,
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and one of our young Gen Zers said, "Permission to speak freely."
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I said, “Of course.”
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He said,
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"I'm sick of everyone talking about how hybrid is hard.
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This isn't hard.
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It's just how we work.
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This is really a change management issue for you old people."
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And as a Gen Xer, that stung a bit.
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But if you think about it, Gen Z,
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the earliest of whom graduated in 2019, just pre-pandemic,
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hybrid isn't hard.
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It's simply the air they breathe.
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A fish doesn't know it's in water,
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it's just swimming.
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So let's get phygital.
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That's physical plus digital.
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Now contrary to popular belief, Gen Z doesn’t want to be fully remote.
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They're also least likely to want to be five days a week in the office.
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They seamlessly and naturally understand how to blend the two worlds.
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So perhaps by studying them,
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we can find clues that will help benefit the future of work for all of us.
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And as we look at broader research,
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most people actually care more
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about when they work than where they work.
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But if I do my best work at 4am
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and you do your best work at 10pm,
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to make that effective,
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we have to develop new communication norms,
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define core working hours for team interactions
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and develop new ways of asynchronous working.
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While most of us have likely never had this privilege,
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the future of work starts with all of us looking deep
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to clarify when and where we're most productive.
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Number two,
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Gen Z expects transparency.
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You've likely heard about this from viral
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and very public salary discussions on TikTok.
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But we all were raised with the golden rule, right?
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You all can say it with me,
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treat others the way you want to be treated.
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But as a working mother who appreciates hybrid flexibility,
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to a Gen Zer,
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who maybe has to go into the office five days a week
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to escape a crowded roommate situation,
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perhaps the new platinum rule should be
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treat others the way they want to be treated,
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not the way you want to be treated.
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So let's find clarity through transparency.
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We all know that clarity is kind.
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And overall, in this five-star-rating world,
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people want to know what will make them effective at your company.
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It's OK for people to move on.
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It's also OK for them to be clear
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about what trade offs they will and won’t make for work and their lives.
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But our companies must do the same.
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My hope is, in the future,
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companies have a range of options where some,
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as their competitive advantage, are fully remote,
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others, as their competitive advantage, are fully in-office.
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And there's a range of options where majority of them exist in between.
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The future of work will start
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with companies boldly declaring their policies
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to help all of us make better career matches.
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Alright.
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And number three, Gen Z insists on inclusion.
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Managers can't do it all,
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but they're often burdened feeling like they have to.
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This can lead to implementation overload, where new ideas feel overwhelming.
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All the while Gen Z is saying, “Put me in, coach,”
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but they often don't know where to begin.
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So let's engage new voices.
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Now one of my favorite stories I’ve heard about this
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is that of the Gucci shadow board.
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In 2017, Gucci recognized that its sales were declining
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as its core demographic was aging.
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So they put in place a next-gen advisory board
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to advise their senior leadership
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on how to connect with the next generation
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through product development and marketing initiatives.
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The result was 136 percent sales growth
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at the same time period
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that their largest competitor declined almost 12 percent.
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The future of work will start
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with engaging new voices from new places,
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but also all of us being open to hearing them,
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even when they don't match what we previously believed to be true.
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Now let's return to my story,
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which obviously started well before Gen Z in the office was even a thing to study.
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But I think you'll find some similarities.
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Now in 2011, I left my traditional job
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thinking it was a side step in my career.
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By 2015, that sidestep was so successful
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that we actually incorporated,
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and I started hiring other working moms
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that had left the traditional workforce for one reason or another.
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This group of powerful women
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effectively doubled our business
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100 percent by word of mouth, year over year,
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till ultimately, we were acquired in 2018
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by the largest media brand in our industry.
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And we were able to do this because we got phygital,
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like Gen Z is expecting,
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we blended synchronous and asynchronous work.
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We found clarity through transparency.
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Our work style and culture was not for everyone,
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and some left us because of it.
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But those retained were the best fit for our culture
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and actually helped us build an even more authentic brand.
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And finally, we stayed open to new ideas,
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even when it didn't match what we previously believed to be true.
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So what I'm most proud of
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is although this was developed for a group of working mothers,
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it grew to include an empty nester,
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it also grew to include a single 40-year-old
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and even a veteran, shifting its career.
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We've proved success not only for those individuals,
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but success for the business.
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So I'll leave you with this.
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Work, as we know it, is broken.
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Gen Z can help us fix it.
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But it will take all of us to make it happen.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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