How AI and Democracy Can Fix Each Other | Divya Siddarth | TED

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Recently I told someone my work is on democracy and technology.
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He turned to me and said,
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“Wow...
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I’m sorry.”
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(Laughter)
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But I love my work.
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I know that we can build a world
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where technological marvels are directed towards people's benefit,
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using their input.
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We have gotten so used to seeing democracy as a problem to be solved.
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But I see democracy as a solution,
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not as a problem.
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Democracy was once a radical political project,
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itself a cutting-edge social technology,
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a new way to answer the very question we are faced with now,
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in the era of artificial intelligence:
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how do we use our capabilities to live well together?
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We are told that transformative technologies like AI are too complicated,
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or too risky
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or too important to be governed democratically.
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But this is precisely why they must be.
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If existing democracy is unequal to the task,
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our job is not to give up on it.
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Our job is to evolve it.
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And to use technology as an asset to help us do so.
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Still, I understand his doubts.
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I never meant to build my life around new forms of democracy.
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I started out just really believing in the power of science.
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I was modifying DNA in my kitchen at 12,
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and when I got to Stanford as a computational biology major,
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I was converted to a new belief -- technology.
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I truly believed in the power of tech to change the world.
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Maybe, like many of you.
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But I saw that the technologies that really made a difference
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were the ones that were built with and for the collective.
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Not the billions of dollars
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pumped into the 19th addiction-fueling social app.
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But the projects that combine creating something truly new
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with building in ways for people to access,
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benefit from and direct it.
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Instead of social media, think of the internet.
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Built with public resources on open standards.
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This is what brought me to democracy.
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Technology expands what we are capable of.
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Democracy is how we decide what to do with that capability.
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Since then, I've worked on using democracy as a solution
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in India, the US, the UK, Taiwan.
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I've worked alongside incredible collaborators
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to use democracy to help solve COVID,
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to help solve data rights.
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And as I'll tell you today,
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to help solve AI governance with policymakers around the world
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and cutting-edge technology companies like OpenAI and Anthropic.
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How?
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By recognizing that democracy is still in its infancy.
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It is an early form of collective intelligence,
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a way to put together decentralized input from diverse sources
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and produce decisions that are better than the sum of their parts.
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That’s why, when my fantastic cofounder Saffron Huang and I
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left our jobs at Google DeepMind and Microsoft
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to build new democratic governance models for transformative tech,
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I named our nonprofit the Collective Intelligence Project,
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as a nod to the ever-evolving project of building collective intelligence
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for collective flourishing.
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Since then we've done just that,
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building new collective intelligence models to direct artificial intelligence,
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to run democratic processes.
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And we've incorporated the voices of thousands of people into AI governance.
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Here are a few of the things we've learned.
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First, people are willing and able to have difficult,
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complex conversations on nuanced topics.
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When we asked people about the risks of AI they were most concerned about,
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they didn't reach for easy answers.
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Out of more than 100 risks put forward,
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the top-cited one: overreliance on systems we don't understand.
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We talked to people across the country,
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from a veteran in the Midwest to a young teacher in the South.
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People were excited about the possibilities of this technology,
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but there were specific things they wanted to understand
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about what models were capable of before seeing them deployed in the world.
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A lot more reasonable than many of the policy conversations that we're in.
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And importantly, we saw very little of the polarization
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we're always hearing about.
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On average, just a few divisive statements
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for hundreds of consensus statements.
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Even on the contentious issues of the day,
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like free speech or race and gender,
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we saw far more agreement than disagreement.
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Almost three quarters of people agree that AI should protect free speech.
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Ninety percent agree that AI should not be racist or sexist.
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Only around 50 percent think that AI should be funny though,
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so they are still contentious issues out there.
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These last statistics
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are from our collective constitution project with Anthropic,
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where we retrained one of the world's most powerful language models
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on principles written by 1,000 representative Americans.
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Not AI developers or regulators or researchers at elite universities.
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We built on a way of training AI
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that relies on a written set of principles or a constitution,
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we asked ordinary people to cowrite this constitution,
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we compared it to a model that researchers had come up with.
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When we started this project, I wasn't sure what to expect.
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Maybe the naysayers were right.
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AI is complicated.
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Maybe people wouldn't understand what we were asking them.
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Maybe we'd end up with something awful.
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But the people’s model, trained on the cowritten constitution,
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was just as capable and more fair
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than the model the researchers had come up with.
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People with little to no experience in AI
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did better than researchers, who work on this full-time,
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in building a fairer chatbot.
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Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised.
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As one of our participants from another process said,
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"They may be experts in AI, but I have eight grandchildren.
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I know how to pick good values."
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If technology expands what we are capable of
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and democracy is how we decide what to do with that capability,
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here is early evidence that democracy can do a good job deciding.
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Of course, these processes aren't enough.
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Collective intelligence requires a broader reimagining of technology
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and democracy.
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That’s why we’re also working on co-ownership models
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for the data that AI is built on -- which, after all, belongs to all of us --
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and using AI itself to create new and better decision-making processes.
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Taking advantage of the things
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that language models can do that humans can’t,
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like processing huge amounts of text input.
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Our work in Taiwan has been an incredible test bed for all of this.
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Along with Minister Audrey Tang and the Ministry of Digital Affairs,
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we are working on processes to ask Taiwan's millions of citizens
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what they actually want to see as a future with AI.
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And using that input not just to legislate,
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but to build.
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Because one thing that has already come out of these processes
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is that people are truly excited about a public option for AI,
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one that is built on shared public data that is reliably safe,
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that allows communities to access, benefit from
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and adjust it to their needs.
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This is what the world of technology could look like.
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Steered by the many for the many.
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I often find that we accept unnecessary trade-offs
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when it comes to transformative tech.
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We are told that we might need to sacrifice democracy
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for the sake of technological progress.
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We have no choice but to concentrate power to keep ourselves safe
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from possible risks.
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This is wrong.
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It is impossible to have any one of these things --
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progress, safety or democratic participation --
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without the others.
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If we resign ourselves to only two of the three,
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we will end up with either centralized control or chaos.
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Either a few people get to decide or no one does.
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These are both terrible outcomes,
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and our work shows that there is another way.
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Each of our projects advanced progress,
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safety and democratic participation
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by building cutting-edge democratic AI models,
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by using public expertise as a way to understand diffuse risks
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and by imagining co-ownership models for the digital commons.
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We are so far from the best collective intelligence systems we could have.
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If we started over on building a decision-making process for the world,
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what would we choose?
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Maybe we'd be better at separating financial power from political power.
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Maybe we'd create thousands of new models of corporations
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or bureaucracies.
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Maybe we'd build in the voices of natural elements
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or future generations.
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Here's a secret.
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In some ways, we are always starting from scratch.
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New technologies usher in new paradigms
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that can come with new collective intelligence systems.
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We can create new ways of living well together
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if we use these brief openings for change.
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The story of technology and democracy is far from over.
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It doesn't have to be this way.
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Things could be unimaginably better.
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As the Indian author Arundhati Roy once said,
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"Another world is not only possible,
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she is on her way.
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On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing."
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I can hear our new world breathing.
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One in which we shift the systems we have
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towards using the solution of democracy to build the worlds we want to see.
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The future is up to us.
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We have a world to win.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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